Comments on: Jonathan Rhys Meyers says Spitzer’s fall “borders on the puritanical” http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/ Stylish celebrity escapism Sat, 26 Jul 2008 02:44:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: gg http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14517 gg Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:18:19 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14517 Love the comments! Rhys Meyers is a petulant, self-important jerkweed. Every interview I have EVER read with him has him bitching his head off about how people are prudes. I sorta liked him as an actor (assuming he was ACTING, and not playing HIMSELF) until I saw his lengthy Gormenghast interview. What a jerk. That said, I bought the Tudors and consider it fluff. I am a european history fiend and did not expect HBO to make an accurate historical drama. Only the BBC does that right, usually. Love the comments! Rhys Meyers is a petulant, self-important jerkweed. Every interview I have EVER read with him has him bitching his head off about how people are prudes. I sorta liked him as an actor (assuming he was ACTING, and not playing HIMSELF) until I saw his lengthy Gormenghast interview. What a jerk.

That said, I bought the Tudors and consider it fluff. I am a european history fiend and did not expect HBO to make an accurate historical drama. Only the BBC does that right, usually.

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]]> By: FF http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14516 FF Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:12:59 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14516 I thought the 'constant persecution' was because it's an election year. Otherwise, it'd be business as usual. Anyway it's not a matter of 'just having sex' its a matter of the context. If you're going to have sex try not to break (federal) laws to do it. Don't do when you're publicly persecuting other people for doing the same thing. And don't do it when you taken vows saying you won't. Just be honest. That's all women ask of men most of the time. If you want to have an affair say so, and your wife can stop wasting her time but don't try and have your cake and eat it. Why is that so hard? Could it be that a lot of men feel entitled to as many women as possible? Well, that would be your first mistake. I thought the ‘constant persecution’ was because it’s an election year.

Otherwise, it’d be business as usual.

Anyway it’s not a matter of ‘just having sex’ its a matter of the context. If you’re going to have sex try not to break (federal) laws to do it. Don’t do when you’re publicly persecuting other people for doing the same thing. And don’t do it when you taken vows saying you won’t.

Just be honest. That’s all women ask of men most of the time. If you want to have an affair say so, and your wife can stop wasting her time but don’t try and have your cake and eat it.

Why is that so hard?

Could it be that a lot of men feel entitled to as many women as possible? Well, that would be your first mistake.

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]]> By: Mairead http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14515 Mairead Tue, 25 Mar 2008 09:22:01 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14515 I would like to interject with the perspective of an Irish person the same age as JRM. We Irish up until very very recently didn't have the "European" view of sex. Marriage out of wedlock was the worst thing imaginable, with those who couldn't have shotgun weddings being shipped off to secluded mother and baby homes (at best) or Magdalene laundries, with many babies being forcibly adopted in Ireland and America. So I must disagree with the assumption that JRM has no clue about conservative sexual values. HOWEVER, the Irish do have a very odd take on what corruption really is. To us, Clinton got into trouble (Whitewater aside) because of sexual foibles and lying about it. It's true, we liked Clinton, and his help in Northern Ireland has left behind an improving society to which the whole country is grateful. We'll revel in the salacious detail as much as anyone, but in general we're willing to let anyone who wants to do the job get on with it. The few times I remember a politician stepping down from politics was (1) interference in an incest case (2) drink driving and nearly killing someone The point is that we here are still in the midst of The Mahon Tribunal. It's one of many tribunals that allegedly aim to get to the bottom of corruption in politics and property development in the 1980s and 1990s. Feckin' joke. Our Benevolent Leader (Bertie Ahern) has already been proven to be either a blithering mass incompetent or chronically corrupt - and what is the Irish public's response "Aaahhh leave him alone" So you'll understand that we Irish really don't give a damn what happens behind closed doors (or in the local cottaging or cruising grounds) as we're more than happy to re-elect the properly corrupt as we don't seem to see the point of a Government as actually "governing" - more a shower of eejits that we want to tear the backs out of once they get into power. I would like to interject with the perspective of an Irish person the same age as JRM.

We Irish up until very very recently didn’t have the “European” view of sex. Marriage out of wedlock was the worst thing imaginable, with those who couldn’t have shotgun weddings being shipped off to secluded mother and baby homes (at best) or Magdalene laundries, with many babies being forcibly adopted in Ireland and America.
So I must disagree with the assumption that JRM has no clue about conservative sexual values.

HOWEVER, the Irish do have a very odd take on what corruption really is. To us, Clinton got into trouble (Whitewater aside) because of sexual foibles and lying about it. It’s true, we liked Clinton, and his help in Northern Ireland has left behind an improving society to which the whole country is grateful. We’ll revel in the salacious detail as much as anyone, but in general we’re willing to let anyone who wants to do the job get on with it. The few times I remember a politician stepping down from politics was (1) interference in an incest case (2) drink driving and nearly killing someone

The point is that we here are still in the midst of The Mahon Tribunal. It’s one of many tribunals that allegedly aim to get to the bottom of corruption in politics and property development in the 1980s and 1990s. Feckin’ joke.

Our Benevolent Leader (Bertie Ahern) has already been proven to be either a blithering mass incompetent or chronically corrupt - and what is the Irish public’s response “Aaahhh leave him alone”

So you’ll understand that we Irish really don’t give a damn what happens behind closed doors (or in the local cottaging or cruising grounds) as we’re more than happy to re-elect the properly corrupt as we don’t seem to see the point of a Government as actually “governing” - more a shower of eejits that we want to tear the backs out of once they get into power.

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]]> By: Gracie http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14514 Gracie Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:36:19 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14514 Good grief. Why have laws at all if they are not enforced, especially if the enforcers are breaking them? We have something called equal justice in the eyes of the law in America. Meaning, if it's a crime for one person, it's a crime for all. Yes, reality means that $$ can get you better lawyers, etc., but people who ignore the basic point of a nation lof laws and not men scare me. Good grief. Why have laws at all if they are not enforced, especially if the enforcers are breaking them?

We have something called equal justice in the eyes of the law in America. Meaning, if it’s a crime for one person, it’s a crime for all.

Yes, reality means that $$ can get you better lawyers, etc., but people who ignore the basic point of a nation lof laws and not men scare me.

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]]> By: snappyfish http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14513 snappyfish Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:48:29 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14513 xiaoecho I am glad I am not the only one to notice. The costumes are glorious but the story isn't even CLOSE to being acurate. It is a great story, it should be told. Not turned into soft porn as you say. The other boleyn girl was also horrific for the same reason, story ALL wrong and the costumes were bad. But rhys meyers is hot and the girl playing Anne is lovely xiaoecho I am glad I am not the only one to notice. The costumes are glorious but the story isn’t even CLOSE to being acurate.

It is a great story, it should be told. Not turned into soft porn as you say. The other boleyn girl was also horrific for the same reason, story ALL wrong and the costumes were bad.

But rhys meyers is hot and the girl playing Anne is lovely

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]]> By: Anastasia http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14512 Anastasia Tue, 25 Mar 2008 00:33:23 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14512 The Tudors is a show I'd enjoy if it were even the slightest bit accurate and if it didn't amount to nothing more than soft-core with costumes. I'm no prude, I love a bit of cheeky fun, but honestly there's so much sex in that show it really gets old after awhile. Oh hey here's a dark-headed (eyeroll) Henry VIII boinking someone else. Oh hey here he is in the next scene getting a blow job, waddaya know? And now here's some random dude with two women and an old guy wanking in the woods, whoooo! Zzzzzzzzzzz. The Tudors is a show I’d enjoy if it were even the slightest bit accurate and if it didn’t amount to nothing more than soft-core with costumes. I’m no prude, I love a bit of cheeky fun, but honestly there’s so much sex in that show it really gets old after awhile. Oh hey here’s a dark-headed (eyeroll) Henry VIII boinking someone else. Oh hey here he is in the next scene getting a blow job, waddaya know? And now here’s some random dude with two women and an old guy wanking in the woods, whoooo! Zzzzzzzzzzz.

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]]> By: Shane http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14511 Shane Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:48:59 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14511 I am a Democrat and I ALWAYS vote Democratic. I vote Democratic because I have a social agenda far different than the Republican party. If I lived in New York I would have voted for Spitzer. But, Spitzer was a liar and a fraud and he let us all down. He was caught spending somewhere around $80,000 on hookers over a years time. It was many girls. Read into the full story. Yes, Vitter & Craig should have been run out of Washington long ago. Yes, it's unfair that Spitzer got crushed but those two scumbags continue to have a vote in DC. But, Spitzer made his entire career on being Mr. Clean God Bless America. He even prosecuted prostitution rings while he was Attorney General! The guy broke the trust, and as a Democrat I don't want our party protecting a man who would do something like that. I am a Democrat and I ALWAYS vote Democratic. I vote Democratic because I have a social agenda far different than the Republican party. If I lived in New York I would have voted for Spitzer. But, Spitzer was a liar and a fraud and he let us all down. He was caught spending somewhere around $80,000 on hookers over a years time. It was many girls. Read into the full story.

Yes, Vitter & Craig should have been run out of Washington long ago. Yes, it’s unfair that Spitzer got crushed but those two scumbags continue to have a vote in DC.

But, Spitzer made his entire career on being Mr. Clean God Bless America. He even prosecuted prostitution rings while he was Attorney General! The guy broke the trust, and as a Democrat I don’t want our party protecting a man who would do something like that.

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]]> By: RC http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14510 RC Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:24:27 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14510 Also, Infantilism, while definitely kinda weird, isn't illegal, and it's not illegal to pay someone to treat you like a baby, even if it is for your own sexual pleasure. it's a fine line, because, while clearly sexual to the people who engage in it, it's not sex in the legal sense - same with professional dominatrices, as long as nothing overtly sexual occurs. not to mention spitzer's tough-on-crime, tough-on-corrupiton stance. oof. it's only funny if the public figure has denounced his own behavior in the past. Kate - I wouldn't be at all surprised if JRM said that on purpose, as a barb. He ain't the sharpest tack in the box, but he's not oblivious either. Also, Infantilism, while definitely kinda weird, isn’t illegal, and it’s not illegal to pay someone to treat you like a baby, even if it is for your own sexual pleasure. it’s a fine line, because, while clearly sexual to the people who engage in it, it’s not sex in the legal sense - same with professional dominatrices, as long as nothing overtly sexual occurs. not to mention spitzer’s tough-on-crime, tough-on-corrupiton stance. oof. it’s only funny if the public figure has denounced his own behavior in the past.

Kate - I wouldn’t be at all surprised if JRM said that on purpose, as a barb. He ain’t the sharpest tack in the box, but he’s not oblivious either.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14509 Anonymous Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:22:39 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14509 And I agree with all the comments above. And I agree with all the comments above.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14508 Anonymous Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:17:36 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10282/jonathan_rhys_meyers_says_spitzers_fall_borders_on_the_puritanical/#comment-14508 but it is OK, does not really matter. but it is OK, does not really matter.

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