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		<title>By: Steven L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, all. I don't watch Oprah, but discovered A Course in Miracles after studying religions and spiritual philosophies for nearly 40 years. Very little has measured up to my standards of proof... But I've come to firmly believe that the Course is actually Jesus speaking to us again, and now have a much more...living,joyful, meaningful relationship with him and God than I ever did during my exploration of fearful religion as a teen. It's a given that condemnation without investigation is the height of arrogance; as is the verity that no evidence whatsoever can possibly convince us of the truth of something we adamantly do-not-want.              I can no more 'prove' to another what I now believe, any more than the Apostle Peter could have, following his acknowledgment of Jesus as Messiah, when Jesus told him that 'flesh and blood had not revealed it to him, but his Father in heaven.'            Within Christianity's first few decades, Jesus had been divinized, his teachings distorted, and factions were already infighting; angrily accusing each other of apostasy. From its very beginnings, the religion of Christianity has never been some unified, monolithic entity.
Even in the canonical gospel of Luke, Jesus told his disciples that he felt they couldn't 'bear' hearing more at that time. The time has come, and Jesus is lovingly reaching out to us once again. Two centuries of modern New Testament scholarship consistently uncovers a Jesus strikingly similar to Jesus in the Course...but then,truth is always consistent. Truth needs no defense. It merely awaits our welcome.                           Every moment that we squander pointing fingers at one another is merely another moment we spend holding a sword at our own throats. God's love patiently and knowingly awaits our willingness, and He does not 'lose' His children, being neither cruel nor insane nor impotent... Our temporary insanity and 'limited, false identities' having been our own mistaken choice. His children are who we forever unalterably are, all our dogged, intricate illusions to the contrary, and we so need to remember that in all our dealings with one another... Handle g-e-n-t-l-y!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, all. I don&#8217;t watch Oprah, but discovered A Course in Miracles after studying religions and spiritual philosophies for nearly 40 years. Very little has measured up to my standards of proof&#8230; But I&#8217;ve come to firmly believe that the Course is actually Jesus speaking to us again, and now have a much more&#8230;living,joyful, meaningful relationship with him and God than I ever did during my exploration of fearful religion as a teen. It&#8217;s a given that condemnation without investigation is the height of arrogance; as is the verity that no evidence whatsoever can possibly convince us of the truth of something we adamantly do-not-want.              I can no more &#8216;prove&#8217; to another what I now believe, any more than the Apostle Peter could have, following his acknowledgment of Jesus as Messiah, when Jesus told him that &#8216;flesh and blood had not revealed it to him, but his Father in heaven.&#8217;            Within Christianity&#8217;s first few decades, Jesus had been divinized, his teachings distorted, and factions were already infighting; angrily accusing each other of apostasy. From its very beginnings, the religion of Christianity has never been some unified, monolithic entity.<br />
Even in the canonical gospel of Luke, Jesus told his disciples that he felt they couldn&#8217;t &#8216;bear&#8217; hearing more at that time. The time has come, and Jesus is lovingly reaching out to us once again. Two centuries of modern New Testament scholarship consistently uncovers a Jesus strikingly similar to Jesus in the Course&#8230;but then,truth is always consistent. Truth needs no defense. It merely awaits our welcome.                           Every moment that we squander pointing fingers at one another is merely another moment we spend holding a sword at our own throats. God&#8217;s love patiently and knowingly awaits our willingness, and He does not &#8216;lose&#8217; His children, being neither cruel nor insane nor impotent&#8230; Our temporary insanity and &#8216;limited, false identities&#8217; having been our own mistaken choice. His children are who we forever unalterably are, all our dogged, intricate illusions to the contrary, and we so need to remember that in all our dealings with one another&#8230; Handle g-e-n-t-l-y!
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		<title>By: Loob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are only a good person because some book tells you to be, or because you have been threatened with hell, then you are not really a good person at all. 
Many religious types wouldn't have a clue what true altruism is, because they only behave well to get something for themselves.

If you are good and kind and fair to others simply because you know that behaviour to be absolutely right and just, and you didn't need to bullied or threatened to do it, then you are a TRULY good person. 
And you aren't likely to be a religious nut.
And "God" probably likes you better. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are only a good person because some book tells you to be, or because you have been threatened with hell, then you are not really a good person at all.<br />
Many religious types wouldn&#8217;t have a clue what true altruism is, because they only behave well to get something for themselves.</p>
<p>If you are good and kind and fair to others simply because you know that behaviour to be absolutely right and just, and you didn&#8217;t need to bullied or threatened to do it, then you are a TRULY good person.<br />
And you aren&#8217;t likely to be a religious nut.<br />
And &#8220;God&#8221; probably likes you better. <img src='http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 07:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah is teaching damnedable heiresy.
And I pray that GOD would save her or shut her mouth!  Oh what a price that'll be paid for drawing so many from the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah is teaching damnedable heiresy.<br />
And I pray that GOD would save her or shut her mouth!  Oh what a price that&#8217;ll be paid for drawing so many from the truth.
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		<title>By: Bina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toni Morrison one year, Dr. Phil the next, Marianne Williamson the year after that. I mean, this just proves the old adage that "people who believe in nothing will believe in anything". I don't have a problem with Oprah per se, it's more about all the sheep who follow her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toni Morrison one year, Dr. Phil the next, Marianne Williamson the year after that. I mean, this just proves the old adage that &#8220;people who believe in nothing will believe in anything&#8221;. I don&#8217;t have a problem with Oprah per se, it&#8217;s more about all the sheep who follow her.
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		<title>By: Trillion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trillion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oprah's not god.  But at least she's real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oprah&#8217;s not god.  But at least she&#8217;s real.
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		<title>By: CeeJay</title>
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		<dc:creator>CeeJay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celebitchy, You rock!!  It is truly rare that someone has the nerve to publicly declare that they don't worship the ground Oprah walks on.  We are a country of fools who blindly worship celebrities, and Oprah is the  queen bee.  Don't get me wrong, much of what Oprah does is admirable and inspiring; however, the other half of what she does is to self-proclaim her brand of "spirituality" as the path of righteousness and freedom for us all....hooey!  We can all worship our own Gods, whomever they may be.  We don't have to follow a year long course of "miracles" lead by the kooky Marianne Williamson to be led to salvation.  Oprah should stick to interviewing celebrities and leave religion and spirituality to those better versed on the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celebitchy, You rock!!  It is truly rare that someone has the nerve to publicly declare that they don&#8217;t worship the ground Oprah walks on.  We are a country of fools who blindly worship celebrities, and Oprah is the  queen bee.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, much of what Oprah does is admirable and inspiring; however, the other half of what she does is to self-proclaim her brand of &#8220;spirituality&#8221; as the path of righteousness and freedom for us all&#8230;.hooey!  We can all worship our own Gods, whomever they may be.  We don&#8217;t have to follow a year long course of &#8220;miracles&#8221; lead by the kooky Marianne Williamson to be led to salvation.  Oprah should stick to interviewing celebrities and leave religion and spirituality to those better versed on the subject.
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		<title>By: headache</title>
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		<dc:creator>headache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wow. An entire segment of comments dedicated to playground arguments.

"My religion (or lack thereof) is better that yours!"

"Uh uh. Mine is better and yours is stupid."

"Nu uh, yours is stupid."

"Is not."

"Is so."

Etc.

Hardly any of you had anything respectful to say about anyone else's faith. How nice and what a wonderful testament to whatever creed some of you adhere to. Nothing like belittling someone to bring them to your side.

BTW, Oprah's belief system is hokey because it is inconsistant and driven by Oprah's never ending consumerism. She believes in whatever keeps people in those seats, buying her magazine and whatever products she is hawking for the week. I mean that's who she is and that's how she makes her money so I'm not knocking her for it so much as shaking my head at all the soccer moms out there who take everything Oprah says and does at face value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow. An entire segment of comments dedicated to playground arguments.</p>
<p>&#8220;My religion (or lack thereof) is better that yours!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Uh uh. Mine is better and yours is stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Nu uh, yours is stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Is not.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Is so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Etc.</p>
<p>Hardly any of you had anything respectful to say about anyone else&#8217;s faith. How nice and what a wonderful testament to whatever creed some of you adhere to. Nothing like belittling someone to bring them to your side.</p>
<p>BTW, Oprah&#8217;s belief system is hokey because it is inconsistant and driven by Oprah&#8217;s never ending consumerism. She believes in whatever keeps people in those seats, buying her magazine and whatever products she is hawking for the week. I mean that&#8217;s who she is and that&#8217;s how she makes her money so I&#8217;m not knocking her for it so much as shaking my head at all the soccer moms out there who take everything Oprah says and does at face value.
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to be honest, Oprah does not truly hold Christian viewpoints.  She calls herself one but really she is not.  I think the problem is that she continues to characterize herself falsely.  Just say that you're "spiritual" and believe xyz.  Don't call yourself a Christian.  It is confusing to many people and probably is leading some people who don't know astray.  I love Oprah and respect her but as a Christian, I know that many of her viewpoints are her own and do not line up with my faith AND that's OK.  She has to live her life and answer for her life like we all have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to be honest, Oprah does not truly hold Christian viewpoints.  She calls herself one but really she is not.  I think the problem is that she continues to characterize herself falsely.  Just say that you&#8217;re &#8220;spiritual&#8221; and believe xyz.  Don&#8217;t call yourself a Christian.  It is confusing to many people and probably is leading some people who don&#8217;t know astray.  I love Oprah and respect her but as a Christian, I know that many of her viewpoints are her own and do not line up with my faith AND that&#8217;s OK.  She has to live her life and answer for her life like we all have to.
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		<title>By: mollination</title>
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		<dc:creator>mollination</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harlem chic- What a nice point. Oprah does do more to unite us than anything else, and isn't that the point? The message?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlem chic- What a nice point. Oprah does do more to unite us than anything else, and isn&#8217;t that the point? The message?
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		<title>By: Toubrouk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Toubrouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I go even further than GirlyGirl on this: I don't believe in fairy-tales.

Regardless if it's Christian Mythology or New Age dogma; it all boils down to wishful thinking unfit to be printed. I can't believe that, in this day and age, we are still stuck into these sterile debates about imaginary places. We have science to disprove almost anything that junk tell us and we still waste time on these issues. It looks like a pathetic fight between to kid about who's got the imaginary friend with the biggest ****.

So, yes, it's a waste of time to had this published here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I go even further than GirlyGirl on this: I don&#8217;t believe in fairy-tales.</p>
<p>Regardless if it&#8217;s Christian Mythology or New Age dogma; it all boils down to wishful thinking unfit to be printed. I can&#8217;t believe that, in this day and age, we are still stuck into these sterile debates about imaginary places. We have science to disprove almost anything that junk tell us and we still waste time on these issues. It looks like a pathetic fight between to kid about who&#8217;s got the imaginary friend with the biggest ****.</p>
<p>So, yes, it&#8217;s a waste of time to had this published here.
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