Angelina Jolie: Shiloh “wants to dress like a boy, wants to be a boy”

39558, VENICE, ITALY - Friday April 16, 2010. Brad Pitt's parents, William and Jane, go for an outing with grandkids Shiloh, Pax, Maddox, and Zahara in Venice, Italy. Maddox and Shiloh take turns jumping around, with Shiloh looking adorable in her striped sailor outfit (complete with white jeans!) while the equally fashionable Zahara is seen holding onto a Hello Kitty clutch that looks a little too large for her tiny frame! Pax holds onto grandpa William's hand as the family enjoys a nice day in Venice, with mother Angelina Jolie filming scenes for The Tourist. Photograph: PacificCoastNews.com

Well, that took about two seconds. Just a few hours ago, Vanity Fair released some excerpts from Angelina Jolie’s cover profile (we just covered it here). Angelina was talking about her kids, and she had some sweet things to say. However, the excerpts provided online we’re even the tip of the iceberg, I guess. Because Us Weekly got their hands on an advance copy of the interview, and Angelina talks more extensively about Shiloh and how Shi “likes to dress like a boy. She wants to be a boy. So we had to cut her hair. She likes to wear boys’ everything. She thinks she’s one of the brothers.” Judge away.

In August’s Vanity Fair, Angelina Jolie opens up about her six children and relationship with beau Brad Pitt.

The Salt star, 35, admits she dresses Shiloh, 4, “like a little dude. Shiloh, we feel, has Montenegro style. It’s how people dress there. She likes tracksuits, she likes [regular] suits. She likes to dress like a boy. She wants to be a boy. So we had to cut her hair. She likes to wear boys’ everything. She thinks she’s one of the brothers.”

But Jolie says she isn’t worried: She was just like Shiloh as a kid.

“Shiloh’s hysterically funny, one of the goofiest, most playful people you’ll ever meet,” she says. “….Goofy and verbal, the early signs of a performer. I used to get dressed up in costumes and jump around.”

Maddox, 8, is “a real intellectual, which I can take no credit for genetically. He’s great at school, great at history. He feels like he could be a writer or travel the world and learn about places and things.”

Five-year-old Zahara has “got an extraordinary voice and is just so elegant and well spoken,” adds the proud mom.

And twins Knox and Viv (who turn 2 next month)? They’re “classic boy and girl,” says the actress. “She’s really female. And he’s really a little dude.”

Jolie describes their home life “as happy.”

Says the mom, “I got back from work last night, and everybody was playing music and dancing and I suddenly found myself dancing around with a bunch of little fun crazy people.”

Are more kids on the way? “No, I’m not pregnant [but] we’re not opposed to it,” she says. “We want to make sure we can give everybody special time. They’re kids now, and can play together, but they’re going to need a lot more talking in the middle of the night, like I did with my mom for hours. We want to make sure we don’t build a family so big that we don’t have absolutely enough time to raise them each really well.”

She says things are stronger than ever with Pitt, 45, despite those split rumors.

“[We’re not] against getting married [but] it’s just like we already are,” she tells Vanity Fair. “Children are clearly a commitment, a bigger commitment [than marriage]. It’s for life.”

She didn’t even mind his scraggly beard.

“I love Brad in every state,” she says.

Adds Jolie, “I feel fortunate to have a relationship where I actually feel safe enough to imagine growing old together.”

[From Us Weekly]

And still no mention of Pax! I’m sure she talked about him, those excerpts just haven’t come out yet. Either that, or he really is “The Forgotten Jolie-Pitt”. That will probably be the name of his tell-all memoir. Either that, or “Call Me Fred”.

As far as Shiloh dressing like a boy and thinking she’s a boy and wanting to be a little boy, this has all been discussed before in the tabloids, usually with headlines like “Why is Angelina turning Shiloh into a boy?” and “Is Angelina repressing Shiloh’s sexuality?”. But to me it just sounds like Angelina is letting her daughter be a kid and do kid things, letting her find her personality and be herself. Angelina and Brad seem to embrace it. But I’m sure it will start a new round of “Angelina is a horrible mother for letting her daughter wear pants” stories.

Also… “Montenegro style“? I’ve never heard that before.

38338, VENICE, ITALY - Sunday March 7, 2010. Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, director of the upcoming film The Tourist , holds onto Shiloh while Angelina Jolie and Pax climb out of a water taxi. Angelina, along with Shiloh and Pax, visited the director of her upcoming film at his home in Venice. Photograph: PacificCoastNews.com

38338, VENICE, ITALY - Sunday March 7, 2010. Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck, director of the upcoming film The Tourist , holds onto Shiloh while Angelina Jolie and Pax climb out of a water taxi. Angelina, along with Shiloh and Pax, visited the director of her upcoming film at his home in Venice. Photograph: PacificCoastNews.com

38123, VENICE, ITALY - Sunday February 28 2010. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt leaving their apartment in Venice with daughter Shiloh and son Pax Thien. The family boarded a launch to head out for the day. Aneglina Jolie is currently shooting the movie The Tourist in Europe. Photograph: PacificCoastNews.com

39558, VENICE, ITALY - Friday April 16, 2010. Brad Pitt's parents, William and Jane, go for an outing with grandkids Shiloh, Pax, Maddox, and Zahara in Venice, Italy. Maddox and Shiloh take turns jumping around, with Shiloh looking adorable in her striped sailor outfit (complete with white jeans!) while the equally fashionable Zahara is seen holding onto a Hello Kitty clutch that looks a little too large for her tiny frame! Pax holds onto grandpa William's hand as the family enjoys a nice day in Venice, with mother Angelina Jolie filming scenes for The Tourist. Photograph: PacificCoastNews.com

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  1. denise says:

    lol@ the forgotten jolie-pitt comment.

    I don’t know about this whole tomboy Shiloh thing. I kinda miss the girlie cutie Shiloh.

  2. Disco says:

    Oh Lord…I wish Angie hadn’t even opened her mouth. Now we’re going to have a whole new round on Shiloh bashing, which just makes me sick. Poor baby.

  3. qb says:

    When I was little , I wanted to be a boy too like my brothers.

    Boys have more fun.

  4. MM says:

    What about Pax??

  5. seVen says:

    I did that as a kid, wanted to be a boy, did boy things then i grew up and I’m a total girls girl now. Its just a phase 🙂

  6. k says:

    boys totally have more fun

  7. Obvious says:

    And Empress Z? Where is the Empress during all this? I bet she’s telling Shiloh “I am the ONLY girl. Go be one of them!” *points at the boys*

  8. Cheyenne says:

    Cue the Jolie-bashers. Until I was 12 years old I wanted to be a boy. It just seemed like they had more fun. Nobody cared if they ran around and got mussed up. Then when I hit adolescence I discovered boys in a whole new dimension. Ten will get you twenty that Shiloh will do the same. Glad her mother has sense enough not to make a big deal out of a four year old being a tomboy.

  9. Weeble says:

    Shiloh is absolutely adorable. I think in those pics she definitely looks more like Brad. There’s nothing wrong with being boyish.

  10. Bellatrix says:

    Moreover, oh Kaiser, what about Fax?

  11. koliber says:

    Vanessa Paradis asked about her kids replied: “They are not in the public domain.”

    Maybe Angelina should take an example…

  12. mln says:

    Kids really do have phases I wanted to be a boy for a summer than I only wanted to wear dresses that is just part of childhood

  13. Nessie says:

    Shilo is really cool at age four…., she is the spitting image of Brad.

  14. Missfit says:

    I agree with disco, cause now people are going to bash on her even more and be even more MEAN. She may grow out of it, she may not, either way, as long as she’s happy, that’s what matters. And I was a tomboy too as a kid and played with my brothers hot wheels and g.i. joes, but then again, I guess some people may think some of us are “liars” just to show Shiloh support. Even when she was girlie, she wasn’t all PINKED out and I still liked that, she doesn’t have to be all in pepto colors,lol. Us parents have to love our kids no matter what and show them all the support we can. Shiloh is beautiful.

  15. Kaiser says:

    Bellatrix – Exactly! We never hear anything about little Fax Cannes anymore.

  16. Bee says:

    I love the fact that Brad and Angie are just letting Shiloh be who she wants to be. Would they be better parents if they forced Shiloh to wear frilly dresses and kitten heels like Suri Cruise? No judgement on Suri either. I think it’s good that Tom and Katie are allowing Suri to express herself as well. Shiloh is lucky to have parents who accept her, and are not trying to enforce society’s “girls wear pink, boys wear blue” gender rules on her.

    p.s I didn’t realize Pax wasn’t mentioned in the article. I guess he really is the forgotten Jolie-Pitt,by both me and VF. I’m sure Angie mentioned him.

  17. Iggles says:

    I wanted to be a boy when I was 5. So what? It’s not a big deal, so many little girls are tomboys.

  18. TQB says:

    I was a tomboy as a kid. My sister was a princess – everything was pink, frilly, lots of dresses. She turned out to be the lesbian. I wish Angelina would just stop acknowledging that there’s anything interesting at all about Shiloh’s choice in clothing, because it means nothing and is quite frankly none of my business.

  19. Ruby Red Lips says:

    Not again…pls just let Shiloh be happy

    Who cares whether she dresses like a boy or not & tho a huge angelina fan I do wish she hadn’t mentioned this, tho in her eyes there is nothing wrong with it which is also true

    (sorry lots of fence sitting here)

  20. bellaluna says:

    For Pete’s sake, the child is 4 years old – she’s going to want to be a lot more things before she’s grown!

    I wanted to be a boy when I was little; I was an only child who played with Tonka trucks, played football with the boys (even as a teenager), rode a dirt bike (not those lame banana-seat girlie bikes), and cut off my one Barbie’s hair when I put her head in my Dad’s vise.

    I absolutely love being a grown woman, but being a girl sucked! Periods, pantyhose, crossing your legs when you sit down, underwire bras, all the unreasonable expectations, guys talking to your boobs & grabbing your ass – what girl wants that?

  21. nnn says:

    Vanessa Paradis asked about her kids replied: “They are not in the public domain.”

    Maybe Angelina should take an example…
    ———————
    Well that was one of those times she said that but she actually at times talk about her kids too not as extensively but she does it in France and had no problems putting some intimate pictures of the 4 of them, taken in the intimacy of their home in a French magazine making them a public domain by default.

  22. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    I don’t think Angelina really gives a f*ck about what people think and its really hard not to care what people think. So that is something about Angelina that I really like. She doesn’t give a f*ck what people think and that makes her an open person. I am sure other parents will be able to relate to Angelina better than some other people. I also think if a tabloid says something…what can you do? Angelina looks freaking amazing on the cover and inside, totally can’t wait to grab the issue. Maybe they jut didn’t add in the Pax part, its an excerpt, the interview will have more stuff the excerpt doesn’t show.

  23. Lisa Turtle says:

    It’s ridiculous for the tabloids to bring up a toddler’s sexuality. The kid likes to wear pants and play with her brothers. She wants to be one-of-the-gang. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether she will grow up to be attracted to men or women or both. I would rather speculate on the future careers of these kids! At least a few of them will certainly take on Hollywood. Zahara & Shiloh both seem like they have what it takes to become movie stars. Maybe Maddox will become a human rights attorney at work in the Hague prosecuting war crimes & crimes against humanity. I would love to see that!

    I think Angelina sounds like a great mom. Fun, engaging, interesting.

  24. Lisa S. says:

    I’m with koliber on this one.

  25. JoJo says:

    Pax probably has attachment disorder. jmho based on what I’ve read in past articles.

  26. tar says:

    It is SO stupid that she has to defend the way Shilo dresses. People need to STFU about Shilo. Seriously, what is the problem?
    OMG a little girl has short hair! Call the gender stereotype police!
    OMG a little girl likes to wear comfortable playclothes! She must be a lesbian!
    OMG a little girl whose not dressed up as a Disney Princess! The parents must be immoral!
    Would you rather have your girl-child look like Shilo, or those hoochie-mama-pussy-cat-doll child dancers dressed in lingere? I know my answer.

  27. Shawna says:

    Shiloh looks pretty happy. That’s all that needs to be said.

  28. viper says:

    why dont they just sell their kids get their kids bank accounts and what not. I mean obviously ther eis no such thing as privacy for their kids so why not?

  29. Tia C says:

    Love her! What a freaking cute kid. I always thought boys had more fun when I was a kid, too. Still do, actually… LOL!

  30. shazza says:

    I was always a tomboy…right up until my 20’s. I’m happily married with 2 kids. It doesn’t really mean anything, and even if it did, who are we to judge? When you love your kids, you don’t force them to be something they aren’t. Period.

    BTW, it’s all well and good for Vanessa Paradis to refuse to talk about her kids, but Angelina Jolie she is not. People just don’t want to know as badly as people want to know about Brad and Angie’s kids. She could try to draw that line, but she would probably fail. I think they try to keep a balance. Not hiding their kids away but also giving them enough space a privacy to just be kids. It’s an unwinnable situation they’re in as parents regarding the papps, all they can really do is try to do what they think is best.

  31. MaiGirl says:

    As a heterosexual former 50/50 mix of tomboy and girlie girl (which I still am, honestly), I find this whole line of discussion about Shiloh reactionary and insulting. She is four freaking years old! Let her be! I too wish that Angelina wouldn’t address this issue at all, which would serve anyone judging her choices right. If, indeed, Shiloh does turn out to be lesbian or transgendered, she will be a much healthier person for having found familial acceptance for whoever of whatever she becomes.

  32. Teri says:

    There we have it from Angelinas own mouth. I respect Shilohs decision and don’t judge her. I don’t critisize Brad or Angelina for forcing Shiloh to be something she’s not. I love them even more! If she were to grow up and be gay or bi so what, she’s not the first and won’t be the last. I wore guys clothes and loved to rough it too with my brothers. But I’m not gay, I’ve been married for 17 years and two children. The only people who’ll make a huge scene are the people who have judged them being together from day one. Their ugly accusations about the whole family doesn’t matter as it doesn’t now.

  33. All Is On says:

    Would the reaction be any different if Maddox were dressing up like a girl? Wearing dresses…make up…carrying around dolls…growing his hair out and wearing frilly bows…carrying a hand bag…?

  34. Tazina says:

    She is a happy kid and wants to tear around with her brothers. She’s not interested in being in frilly dresses and girly things… I tore around with my boy cousins as a child and it was sooo much fun. I don’t think Angelina is putting her kids in the public domain at all. She can’t keep them at home all the time and most photos are taken with long lenses or at airports by invasive paparazzi.

  35. Atticus says:

    As a parent, all you want to do is gush about your kids. Must be tough as a celeb to not be able to do that without being attacked for selling your kids out, or being a bad parent. We all know they have 6 kids, why can they not share a few harmless details about them without it being such a big effing deal?

    As for Shiloh dressing like a boy – again, who cares…most reasonable people understand she’s just being a kid. The tabloids are horrid for trying to sensationalize it.

    I’ve always admired Angelina for being an authentic person – is who she is 100%. Batshit crazy in love with Billy Bob, wearing vials of blood – loved it. I wasn’t a fan of when she looked like an ice queen on the red carpet…like it much more when she’s just shooting from the hip and letting it fly. It’s nice to see her looking more relaxed.

  36. Solveig says:

    “We want to make sure we can give everybody special time. They’re kids now, and can play together, but they’re going to need a lot more talking in the middle of the night, like I did with my mom for hours. We want to make sure we don’t build a family so big that we don’t have absolutely enough time to raise them each really well.”
    Well, first of all, I think that 6 kids are too much to care decently of, no matter if they got 6 or 100 nannies to help them.
    I don’t want to speculate about the fact that she forgot Pax… those are her words (no words), nothing more to add.

  37. koliber says:

    From Dlisted:
    Submitted by TheHeckler on Mon, 06/28/2010 – 10:51am.

    This is just her way of saying that she doesn’t really spend time with them and that with all of her worldliness and travelling, she still sticks to the old stereotypes.

    Maddox is smart = he’s asian = he’s smart

    Zahara has a great voice = she’s black, she can sing = she’s the next Aretha Franklin

    Shiloh is a goof = class clown = the white kid who has no identity and is trying to fit in somehow

    Twins are classic boy and girl = surfer dude and valley girl = shallow and shallower

    I could not say it better…

  38. The Bobster says:

    I see another Chaz in the making.

  39. hanh says:

    no matter how much you say you’re not going to talk about your kids, as a parent its REALLY hard NOT to talk about your kids! I’m sure during the interview, she was asked a bunch of times about her children and she might have only answered a few of those questions but those are the only ones got prominence. You talk about your kids because you’re proud of them, love them, and you can’t help it. And I’m sure she talks about Pax, its just the media is not interested in Pax so they don’t print it. Obvious.

    The stereo type is also BS and racist. So I can’t call my kid smart cuz he’s part asian? Please. My friend can’t say her kid is a good singer cuz of the color of her skin? Please.

  40. Melanie says:

    Pax probably wears girls clothes which is not as cute as Shilo wearing boys clothes. Just a thought.

  41. denise says:

    hahhaa Melanie, maybe.

  42. prissa says:

    If she wants to be a boy now, just wait till she gets her period.

  43. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    LOL Oh Koliber I forgot how those peeps on DListed thought they were so clever. Besides filming a film and taking a few days out to do some humanitarian work…where could Angelina have been…oh let me guess WITH HER FAMILY!!! Goodness Angelina knows her kids, she spends a lot of time with them. Its pretty obvious that she is there mom and she there being there mom. Hell she only does 1 film a year now.

  44. Leticia says:

    I’m not making a judgment, just an observation. She is the first young girl that I have seen dressed completely as a boy, including haircut. When I was a child, I often wore my older male cousin’s handmedowns, including shirts, overalls, etc. But I had a ponytail and ked sneakers. My daughter’s best friend dresses in her older brother’s clothes, but she has a very short Clara Bow type bob. I am not making any predictions about Shiloh’s future, I am just saying that from haircut to shoes, she is dressed like a boy, and I have never seen this before on such a young girl.

  45. Lucky Charm says:

    @ Solveig – “Well, first of all, I think that 6 kids are too much to care decently of, no matter if they got 6 or 100 nannies to help them.”

    I’m sorry that you or your parents had trouble handling and raising one or two children, but six children is not too many to take good care of if you are a dedicated parent. Many of my school friends came from very large families and they all turned out fine. My sister’s best friend is the youngest of 10 and she always had plenty of quality time with her parents. And none of them had nannies. Jealousy does not look good on anyone. Nothing more to add.

  46. Anonymus says:

    Thats normal.

    Angelina and Brand only loves her boys.

    OPEN YOUR EYES!

  47. nnn says:

    I see another Chaz in the making.
    —————————-
    except that Chaz was ALWAYS dressed girlishly with long blond hair down her back and was still girlishly looking in her twenties.

    So i guess, by your comments and your flawn logic, i can see another intellectually braindead in the present being.

  48. Lillian says:

    Shiloh will have sex-resassignment surgery at 18.
    I remember Jolie odd comments about difficulty in paying attention to Shiloh because she felt guilty about the orphaned kids.
    Now Shiloh does not look like a girl anymore, and it’s obvious Jolie is encouraging this behavior.

  49. Juiceinla says:

    First time I have ever heard her sound loving and motherly toward Shiloh (yae!)… and (another first) I say good on ya StAnge- if the kid wants to dress like a boy, or a princess or mighty mouse, let her!

  50. Atticus says:

    People attack the kids, thinking it’s going to hurt the parents…really, it’s an attack on the kids. They might not read your exact remarks, koliber (realizing you quoted DListed, but agreed wholeheartedly), but they are going to someday be able to surf the net and read all of these comments made about them in their childhood. It’s awful. And I don’t agree with, well then Angelina shouldn’t talk about her kids. They’re not mutants. They can’t be kept inside, away from public view – nor should they be. The general public should have the common human decency to let them run around in the playground and be out in daylight without being barraged by paparazzi or being picked apart for having short hair or dressing in kitten heels.

    This is a sore subject for me, it really hits a nerve. Children are children, they are innocent in all of this and should be left alone.

  51. serena says:

    I think Shilou is just too cute, and what is wrong with letting a child dress like a boy? She know she’s a girl that’s why she “wants to be a boy”. Maybe she only admire her brothers and want to relate with them. It’s like a recital, a play, it’s funny and there’s nothing wrong with it.

  52. Atticus says:

    Also – @Leticia – realizing tone of voice doesn’t translate in online remarks, let me preface by saying I am not attacking you at all! But I have to say, respectfully, that I don’t see any significance to your observation. When I was a kid, I was a total tomboy. Never dressed in skirts or dresses unless I was forced to for a special occasion, played sports, got in the dirt, and kept my hair cut short. When I see pictures of myself from that age, I think I look like a boy. I’ve never had any question about my sexuality (I’m straight) or gender confusion. It’s just the way I was. I had a lot of dates with boys in college and am married to a man and have two little kids. Kids go through many phases and what you do as a 4 year old doesn’t necesarily dictate how you live your life as an adult.

    Since having my second child, I’ve been fascinated from day one at how each one of my kids has a very distinct personality and am just loving watching them develop and become their own person. Angelina and Brad must just have a ball seeing how each of their six kids’ personalities shape up over the years.

  53. Bite me says:

    Did Maddox such to wear nail posh and eyeliner when he was. Around Shiloh age

  54. hanh says:

    I don’t know why people are freaking out so much about Shiloh. I love that her parents are letting her discover who she is instead of forcing her to conform to what society wants her to wear or be. That is good parenting! There is nothing wrong with wanting to wear “boys clothes” and do “boy things”. Its called being a tomboy and does not mean she’ll be a lesbian or transgender. I mean OMIGOD she is only toddler! I wonder if you’re the type of parent who forces your girls to wear dresses when they would rather wear pants. Force them to play with dolls when they like swords better. You sound very controlling.

  55. Solveig says:

    Lucky Charm, oh! you fortune teller! I’d really like to have your powers and to see the future and the past of a person in a crystal ball as you do!
    Go and offend your own family, retard.
    I really love when people get offensive and nobody moderate their comments.
    Kaiser, I’m always in “awaiting moderation” mode and I’ve never offended a person in your blog, but I’m really tired to read comments like the one of Lucky Charm, we’re here to bash celebrities and I really appreciate if offensive comments would be erased, not only mine (that are usually sarcastic).

  56. gen says:

    I thought this site was better than that. I can’t believe that’s what you focus in on. I am so sick of people attacking Shiloh for the way she dresses. It makes me sick. And not that this site is attacking her. But that’s what you titled the post & that’s what you talked most about. Why? Why do we have to talk about a kid & the way she dresses!?! And why does Angelina have to talk about her kids either? They aren’t the ones who should be in the spotlight. Can we please leave them out of discussions!? That goes for gossip sites & to Angelina!!!

  57. Solveig says:

    Thank you, Kaiser.

  58. MommaQ says:

    Deuteronomy 22 5

  59. denise says:

    I don’t think that many people were freaking out about Shiloh living her life as a boy. Whenever someone has an opinion that is’nt supportive of the lifestyle, they get attacked.
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even if it’s different than the majority. It’s oppressively one sided on this topic.

  60. Atticus says:

    I love this site and think all of the writers do a great job of reporting the celeb news without hitting below the belt. Gen, it wasn’t the post or the title – those were just quotes from Angelina – we commenters have taken it from there. Just felt the need to defend this site…

  61. KsGirl says:

    Not a fan of Brangelina, especially not a fan of Angelina, but on this one issue I have no problem with it/them. That kid is 4. Imo it’s a good thing they’re letting her express herself and be herself in ways that, come on, aren’t really that big of a deal.

    I actually think the same thing of Suri Cruise and her parents. Suri is just one of those ultra girly girls. I was like that when I was very small, but my hardcore feminist mom REALLY wanted me in dungarees and playing with trucks. Oooh, I was a disappointment, what with only wanting to wear pink frilly dresses and play house.

    Either way, Brangelina are one thing but the kids are another – no one can know the real story, but Shiloh looks like a happy, relaxed kid in the photos, of which there are many. 🙂

  62. Cheyenne says:

    Had to happen… sooner or later, this thread was going to get invaded by some snarky bitches who think it’s cute to rag on the kids because they believe Angie has no business being happy with Brad and shouldn’t be raising a family with him, so of course she has to be a bad mother with a bunch of maladjusted kids.

    Shit gets old, yanno?

  63. Juiceinla says:

    I’m with Atticus and Denise on this one. and all offended commenters should remember that the very essence of a blog (as opposed to the tripe put out by people or the Star) is that the writer does interject opinion (the blogger’s own or playing devil’s advocate), And commenters add their opinions.

    it always seems like the trouble starts because someone’s comment is misconstrued. Its the interwebs peeps- sometimes- er scratch that- its often the case that our words are being interpreted differently than we meant them.

  64. Just a Poster says:

    Well of course she wants to be a boy right now. She has older brothers that she wants to play with and be just like. Plus boys have some pretty cool things to play with at this age.

    Lets say it all together gang…

    DUH! She wants to be like her brothers!

    No biggie just a normal part of siblings being kids.

  65. lucy2 says:

    I kind of wish she hadn’t even acknowledge the ridiculous speculating about this kid because of her hair and clothes, but maybe they kept asking. Shiloh’s 4 years old and a tomboy – so what? Like millions of other little girls are and have been. Tabloids can write about adult celebs all they want, but should leave little kids alone.

    While it may be tough to do and one may not be able to do it 100% all the time, I like the “not public domain” idea. If I were a celebrity, I would try to hold to that as much as possible.

  66. hellen says:

    Montenegro: Balkan Riviera. Rapidly becoming the next celebrity vacation hot spot (Portofino and Monte Carlo are SO last year).

  67. Zoe says:

    I am so proud of Angelina for allowing her daughter to be tomboyish. Lest we forget she herself was a tomboy once. This is 2010, women don’t have to be defined by clothing and are allowed to be recognized for their talent and brain cells. There is nothing wrong with being a tomboy, and having been one myself, it was a sad state to have a parent overly hung up on the way I dressed. Fortunately, after decades of arguing over nothing, she finally let it go and we enjoy a great relationship. By the way, I am still tomboyish, and going to get my Master’s degree and am splitting my life with a gorgeous talented and intellectual boyfriend. Obviously, being a tomboy never hindered me. Children need to express themselves and find their own way in the world, there are plenty of things a parent should be focusing on that are way more important.

  68. OC lady says:

    @Jayjay. SO, Angelina is using Shiloh’s desire to be a boy to get herself attention? Are you serious? It’s obvious that people will speculate about Shiloh no matter what Brad or Angelina do or do not say. I get that people “LOATHE” Angelina, but when you start making up the weirdest stuff about her, then it makes you look foolish not her.

    And comments like that is the reason why I don’t go to Dlisted anymore. They all sound so nasty and bitter. I’m allergic to those kinds of ppl.

  69. Mrs Odie 2 says:

    When Angelina first had Shiloh, her 1st biological child, she stated that her adopted children had come to her older and already had personalities that were distinct and she connected with them. By contrast, she said her newborn baby was just “this blob.” And everyone took the remark out of context and screamed “Angelina called her baby a blob!!! That witch!” What I found disturbing was her comment that Shiloh was so privileged right from birth, compared to her 3rd world adopted siblings, and it made it harder for Angelina to “feel for her.”

    I’ve always thought that Angie is a typical narcissist: low self-esteem, seeking external validation. I imagine she struggled with loving and bonding with someone who came from her own body and was therefore part of her. I’m sure she loves Shiloh very much. However, it’s impossible that baby didn’t FEEL and SENSE her mother’s ambivalence for her “privileged” child. I think Shiloh wants to identify with those boys her mother so clearly “feels for” more easily. And I think Angelina probably is better with males because there’s no competition. With her looks, she probably never had many female friends. Hell, she slept with her own mother’s boyfriend, didn’t she?

    I don’t thin Shiloh’s behavior says anything about her sexuality, but I think it speaks volumes about how she gets her mother’s love.

  70. XYZ says:

    An idiot and a fake posing as a charitable person. She fooled u, didnt she?

  71. Kim says:

    Well Annette Benning and Cher dressed their daughters like girls and they are still transgendered. So some of you dressing your daughters in frilly dresses may end up with a son in a few years.Will you love him or disown him?

  72. Iggles says:

    Wow. It’s disgusting how much hate people have in their hearts towards this family. Shiloh is a little girl. She’s innocent. I don’t get why people are freaking out and saying twisted comments about a child!

    I’m glad Angelina and Brad are letting Shiloh express herself. For all the idiots who claim Angie dislikes Shiloh — can’t you read?? She said out of all her kids, she was MOST like Shiloh growing up! Yes, she was tomboy and grew up to be one of the hottest actresses in Hollywood — and went on to raise a family with the hottest male actor.

    BTW, I loved that someone pointed out that Chaz Bono grew up wearing dresses and girlie clothes. You cannot predict if someone is going to be transgender from the clothes they wear as a young child. Portia de Rossi is married to Ellen and she’s very high femme. You can’t predict someone’s sexual orientation from what they wear as a young child!

    Let kids be kids! If Shiloh grows up to be a lesbian or transgender, so what? But it’s wrong to project your anxiety about gender roles and sex unto a little kid.

  73. linda leblanc says:

    I got back from work last night, and everybody was playing music and dancing and I suddenly found myself dancing around with a bunch of little fun crazy people.”

    Sounds like a happy little circus going on in that house.

    And whats with the…they will need to talk in the middle of the night? What? Why?

  74. RHONYC says:

    ok, so LET’S FACE IT:

    angie’s got a complex. for real.

    god forbid, shiloh be allowed to be a gorgeous little girl in all her splendid, blonde, long-haired glory and rival her mother’s beauty. (not to mention that of lil miss suri’s *tee-hee*)

    when shiloh is free and out of bondage…’being free to be you & me’, her looks will make a.j. look like a walrus.

    i so can’t wait. 🙂

  75. Beth says:

    I don’t know why Angelina always brings out the hate and hypocrisy in people. Pretty much every celebrity talks about their kids. I never see any privacy comments when Julia Roberts, Gwen Stefani, Nicole Kidman, etc talk about their kids. It’s bizarre people are so angry for talking about their personalities. This isn’t the full interview so maybe she talks about Pax at another time or VF just didn’t put it on their site. It’s just really creepy how people can’t wait to bash Angelina and kids. Can somebody explain why Brad is never attacked?

    I really hope that a new thread isn’t going to pop up every time more interview details are released. Can’t Celebitchy wait until the full interview is out? Besides I think this interview is going to be really boring. It’s the same old getting married, more kids questions.

  76. GrrrlGrace says:

    Bravo, Kim!

  77. Lucky Charm says:

    @ Solveig – WOW, it sounds like something really hit too close to home for you. Please take a deep breath, calm down and relax. You are the one being offensive, there’s no cause for calling people names. All I said was that it doesn’t matter how many kids you have, a dedicated parent can make time for, and give plenty of attention to, all of them. I applaud Angelina for recognizing that her kids need that attention, and their not wanting to add more kids if they don’t feel they can do that. My friends who come from large families had parents who were able to do it, so why not Brad & Angelina too? And there are people who only have one or two kids and are totally overwhelmed.

  78. AJ says:

    Already been said but LEAVE THE POOR GIRL/BOY ALONE! I have a girly girl 6 year old daughter and my 4 year old son likes pink, wearing my heels and having his toes painted…Shhh!!! Dont tell my husband, he doesn’t doesn’t “believe” in that!!! Let kids be kids, this old school boy/girl gender stereotyping is SOOO over!

  79. yae says:

    If Shiloh grows up as a transgender person it will not be the parents fault.

    It will be due to the brain chemistry of the child.

    So finger pointers, take up knitting or something.

    It’s a natural phenomenon.

  80. Liana says:

    One of the best songs ever… When I Was a Boy by Dar Williams (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIB3piK0wE). It addresses this issue nicely.

    I’m not a fan of Angelina, but she sounds like she has a lovely family.

  81. Bambam says:

    Solveig is there any study or evidence that suggests 1 or 2 children families are going to fare better in life than 6 children families? I don’t think so.

    The Jolie Pitt kids always look happy and well cared for. There’s no need condemn them for coming from a big family. It’s their parents choice not yours.

  82. Solveig says:

    @Lucky Charm, no, you didn’t hit a nerve, I simply hate comments on other’s posters personal lives/opinions, especially if those comments are offensive, and your were offensive. It gets my nerve even if those comments aren’t adressed to me. Your comment was asinine too considering that is nobody’s fault if mothers/fathers and children haven’t enough time to spend together considering that most of the parents work for 8h a day. Or just rich people are allow to pop out gazillions of children?
    Anyway – and I’m replying to Bambam too – in my opinion/experience (that is valuable as others’ opinions, until I’m told otherwise…) it’s hard to give quality time to 6 kids under the age of 8, and I’m not saying that in regards of Brangelina, but in general.
    A friend of mine comes from a huge family, she’s the oldest one and her littlest sister is 12 years younger than she is. And everyone of them is a beautiful person. The difference between my friend’s family and the Jolie-Pitts (or every other family with small kids) is that the first born is usually much older than the last one (12 years in my friend’s case). Therefore every one of them have had the time to grew up and have real quality time with its parents before the following brother/sister was born. I suppose that it’s safe to say that it is – if not impossible at least – hard to do when all the children are all small, even if a parent has the fortune to get nanny’s help.

    ps: Bambam, I don’t condemn them (Brangelina) for having six kids and I’ve never had, where did you get that from my words?
    I said that 6 – small – kids are hard to care of, and above all I said that I THINK that six are to much to care of in a decent way, especially if they are that young.

  83. omondieu says:

    Okay, I was never a Brangelina fan, but the way she speaks of her kids here is so sweet. It’s good that she realizes that you have to slow down the family building at some point, so as to be able to devote time to each child.

  84. GatsbyGal says:

    Wait, Angelina Jolie is only 35? No way on EARTH is she 35. I thought she must’ve been 39 or 40 by now.

  85. DD says:

    I don’t find it strange that Shiloh likes clothes, or activities that are traditionally a boys domain. I do find it strange if she says she wants to be a boy. I hope they encourage her to accept and love her gender regardless of her interests because they don’t have anything to do with each other. You could wear boyish clothes, and play cars or whatever without having to be a boy. Anyway I hate the idea of a kid her age already having issues/insecurities about their gender. Although it’s probably just a case of Angelina generalizing her child’s interests/personality as wanting to be a boy.

  86. OC lady says:

    @Beth. Totally.

    Brad is attacked. There was a ton of rants about his beard: “how dare he grow facial hair!” and “he needs to shave it off!” Because the folks on the internet say so! It was funny. But he doesn’t get the bad mother/evil comments like Angelina. People seem to really go after her, esp if she does charity (like how dare she!). They dislike her from the Brad split and have cooked up some image of her as the wicked witch.

    I also think it’s b/c her life seems to be going ok. She’s pretty, has the career, money and the family. Even Tina Fey went after her. I remember watching SNL and Fey talked about Jolie’s last interview where she talked about her kids & family. Fey quipped, “And just a reminder from Angelina Jolie showing you she’s better than you.” It’s like she can’t have it good when things are so bad for others. So, the internet must take away what the world gives. Call it strange justice for warped people.

  87. Aussie Mama says:

    Awesome interview, love it x

  88. d says:

    I don’t know that comments are intentionally one-sided biased for Shiloh’s dress as much as it’s just numbers. For example, more people may be aware of the various clothing styles or options for little girls vs. the number of people who aren’t used to seeing that and who therefore think it’s wrong or odd or whatever. The higher number of people thing comes from the fact that most people live in cities and are exposed to more, so it’s more likely that an article of this nature, for example, will get comments in favour of something that is “unusual” or odd or different or, “wrong”. Fewer people live in small towns and are typically exposed to a narrower range of options/choices/beliefs, etc. There may be more of a homogeneity in people, dress, customs, language, etc. Anything different is usually viewed as a threat.

    Neither one is necessarily better. Just different. Different does not equal bad. It can just be different. One set of opinions may indeed work for one environment, but not for another, which will either reject it outright or take a little getting used to.

    I think the mag intentionally left Pax out of the excerpt to build interest. Evidenced by the fact that this article (I think) generated the most comments on the site today. They knew people would panic and gossip and click about it!

    I think Pax is ok. Although if he does have attachment disorder, that would be rough. I know a couple who is dealing with that with a girl from China and it is brutal. It takes A LOT of work, patience, perseverance, and love.

  89. Crash2GO2 says:

    Oh Mrs. Odie 2: I think I love you.

  90. Majosha says:

    Crash: Ditto.

  91. sdgirl says:

    i have to admit that for whatever reason (liking jennifer more, hating her pillowy f&$ing lips, whatever) that I want to blame Angelina for mistreating her children. But, Brad seems cool and in most cases, even Angelina when talking about her kids. And, my kindergarten son has an adorable friend at school just like Shiloh who just wants to be one of the boys. She might be the happiest, sweetest kid I have ever met and wears track suits and a baseball cap to school every day. And, what does judging that say about our own rigid conceptualizations of gender and sexuality if we can’t accept that some kids/adults are in the middle somewhere or veer across “acceptable” lines of what a “normal” girl or boy act like? I have two kids and they do all sorts of random stuff for who knows what reason. Shiloh seems adorable and any comments about her having issues or her parenting seem really mean-spirited to me because it very likely is totally normal childhood development.

  92. Ramona says:

    That is just wonderful…Now I hope she will grow up to be a well adjusted lesbian!! Good luck Shiloh, I’m sure you will make your parents very proud. At least you know what you want to be when you grow up and its nice that they are indulging you early on in life and helping you with your lifestyle change…Maybe Angelina and Brad can ring up Cher, it may help for when the time comes and she can coach them on how to deal with the sex change!!

  93. Lindsay says:

    MommaQ- Don’t want to give the rest of the book away but it also frowns on gossip and judgement. If girls wearing pants is the biggest issue you have you are seeing the world through serious blinders.

    linda leblanc- I was wondering the same thing. I understand that they will need more time talking to their parents but why in the middle of the night?

    Viper and Anonymus- What are you talking about?

    33- Yes it would. If he was walking around in dresses and with painted nails it would be like 10 time worse than what Shiloh is getting.

    Plus Solveig take some Xanax. Her implication you or your parents may have has a hard time raising a small number of children was not that bad. Raising one kid can be hard. You started bashing non-celebs when you made a comment about six being too many to raise well. It used to be pretty common and some people are able to do it amaziningly well, even without help. The term retard is offensive; much more offensive then someone who doesn’t know you making a sarcastic comment about the number of kids you can parent. Just relax.

    Six kids with 102 adults (100 nannies and two parents) works out to 17 people per child even the most difficult child on the planet could be raised well with that many people focused solely on them!

  94. CIndy Kennedy says:

    No, Angelina is capitalizing on Hollywood’s “its so cool to be bisexual” thing. Keep your sexuality private! She grosses me out, she has always been desperate for publicity and attention. She will say anything, even about her own kids. Terribly unclassy. If I were a celebrity I would never discuss my child to anyone in the media.

  95. CIndy Kennedy says:

    Oh, Angelina cares VERY much what other people think. She really, really does.

  96. joe says:

    I really do not understand why Angie felt she needed to discuss Shiloh and how she wants to be a boy. So unnecessary and a big mistake. She had to know that this issue has been in the tabloids and that this statement would bring a lot of talk. Why? What was the point of this? And for those who say she didn’t think about this – Angie is a smart women who plans every move. I really think that Ange should try very very hard not to mention heir children in interviews. I know that her fans love the fact that she discloses personal information as it makes them feel closer to the family – but other huge actors (i.e. Johnny Depp, Matt Damon, etc.) seem to manage. And yes, if these actors let them the public would be very interested in these children. But as of now the press and bloggers know that these kids are off limits. Angie/Brad could have done the same thing.

    As for not mentioning Pax – a huge over sight. Again a reason why she should stay clear of her kids in interviews. It just leads to problems.

    The truth is that just like Suri / Shiloh is over indulged. Suri in the opposite direction. She wants heels she gets heels etc. Shiloh wants to be a boy she gets her hair cut to look like a boy. In both cases these parents need to guide these children a bit. Encourage them to express themselves – but at the same time but limits on it.

  97. Shannon says:

    When we were little, my brother thought I was amazing. He liked me so much that he wanted to wear my clothes, including the dresses.

    Guess what? He grew up to be the most masculine dude he could possibly be.

    Shocker.

  98. BRE says:

    I’ve always worried about Pax. They adopted him when he was four and took him into a TOTALLY different lifestyle with cameras in his face every moment of his life (the others were much younger so it seems more normal to them). They also changed is name to Pax (at 4). If he had been adopted by a normal couple that were not famous and didn’t change his name, I wouldn’t think twice but what does that do to a boy like him? Plus the constant traveling, sometimes for a child that age that is brought into a new family, they need stability and structure you can’t get when you are traveling everywhere.

  99. C.Z. says:

    from Missfit: “Us parents have to love our kids no matter what and show them all the support we can.”

    Have to? Aren’t parents supposed to WANT to love their kids no matter what? “Have to” makes it sound like a chore.

  100. Sila says:

    The kid looks like Chastity Bono.

  101. Rose says:

    Oh you’re hilarious Sila, and oh so very oringinal.

  102. Kelly says:

    Mrs Odie- bingo, thanks for articulating that very same feeling that I have always had about this whacky little setup. Couldn’t have put it better re the narcissistic projection etc.

    Not that I give a shiz how anyone dresses their kids, as long as the kids seem to be happy with it. If the way you dressed at age four was an accurate predictor of anything, I would be a tip-truck fancying bull dyke who sucked on a stuffed kangaroo. Somebody call the freakin police.

  103. N.D. says:

    OK, Mrs Odie. Could you please explain how come Angelina has no problem with Viv who also “came frol her body” being “very female”. Not to mention that there is Zahara who isn’t a boy, didn’t come from AJ’s body and is perfectly feminine.

  104. Blanche says:

    Gender bender. Right on, little one.

    Of course, Angie is a certified pathological liar. (Plus she needs to stop with the cosmetic surgery already!!!!) Can’t believe a word that comes out of that wacko’s mouth.

  105. Lindsay says:

    C.Z.- That is nitpicking… but she probably meant it like “parents need to…” If you have ever had a close relationship with anyone you have to know people are sometimes easier to love than others. Like the phrase. “I love you but I don’t like you very much right now.” Kids – especially young ones – need that unconditional love and support. Most parents want to and do love their children but some days are easier than others.

    BRE- I totally agree but it would have been a hard transition no matter what, the things you mentioned just exacerbated it. But older kids need homes too and special people willing to put a lot of time, effort, and emotional energy into giving them a home and helping them settle in and psychologically adjusting.

    Celebitchy- Since it has come up on a few threads will you please most your moderation policy. Just explain the process; I know the rules are above the reply box but does everyone get moderated now?

  106. Holly says:

    Ok ok. I really think Angie is a mentally disturbed anorexic who would say absolutely anything to stay relevant, but there’s nothing wrong with her child wanting to wear boys clothing. A lot of little kids feel that way. They just want what they want, and they want to have fun! The only disturbing thing about this excerpt is that she addresses it. She knows how she’s viewed. She knows this will stir up controversy. It’s what she does best. It’s how, after so long, people stay interested in her. Because let’s face it: most people are going to get tired of her wielding guns that could break her skinny arms, sporting the same “O” face again and again in the same predictable action films. So what’s a 35 yr old to do? Stir up trouble and continue to vomit her relationship in everybody’s face.

  107. bored says:

    Shiloh is so much like Brad. She’s adorable.

  108. The Bobster says:

    #47 spewed: So i guess, by your comments and your flawn logic, i can see another intellectually braindead in the present being.

    ______

    Based on your command of the English language, I’m not the braindead one here. So shove your heterophobia where the sun doesn’t shine

  109. Kim says:

    Proud to be a fan. Adores her family,humanitarian/activist and one of the highest paid if not the highest paid and most sought after actresses in Hollywood.All at the age of 35 you go girl!

  110. Iggles says:

    @ Shannon:
    When we were little, my brother thought I was amazing. He liked me so much that he wanted to wear my clothes, including the dresses.

    Guess what? He grew up to be the most masculine dude he could possibly be.

    Shocker.

    Perfect example of how you cannot predict how a child will identify as in adult!

    I was a tomboy growing up. Today, while I’m still not super girlie, I am a straight woman who wears skirts, dresses, paint my nails, etc.

    People need to chill out…

  111. punxxi says:

    The kid is 4, she probably doesn’t even differentiate boys from girls. I always wanted to be a boy, always thought that girlie girls were no fun to play with…i mean hockey is way more fun than tea party, ya know?

  112. Camille says:

    Well said OC lady. Nice to see a voice of reason in this crazy thread.

  113. katia says:

    I was a tomboy But i never had such a dramatic boyish look, hair,clothes etc Even i find it strange

  114. j. ferber says:

    I do think Angelina was uncomfortable with Shiloh’s extreme and princess-y beauty. Remember, Shiloh was the first bio child she had and the baby received an inordinate amount of attention. Angelina had a multi-racial, multi-national family and Baby Barbie was almost an embarrassment to Angie’s politics/sympathies. So, yes, I do think Angie is more psychologically comfortable with Shiloh now. And yes, it’s okay with Angie that Zahara is the girly princess BECAUSE Zahara is not Angie’s white, biological child. I think Angie is adamant not to have a Suri Cruise in her brood. This is just my assessment of the situation.

  115. Liana says:

    I STILL prefer boyish clothing at 31. And I’m a straight woman.

  116. Music says:

    Ok I think Jolie is only adding fuel to embers that are now going to blow up in her and Pitts face. First off everyone would feel diffrently if Pax or Maddox was dressing like a girl, would anyone say “Its okay for Mom to be encouraging this”? So why is it cool that she cut Shi hair short, their is no way that little girl asked for that, or is picking out CLOTHES. Yeah she may want to get dirty, and play (so have many little girls me included) with boys and jump on furniture that still dosen’t mean she cant dress or look like a girl.

  117. Music says:

    I forgot to say that I have nothing against Angelina and thinks she is trying her best to handle the kids, along with Pitt. However it does seem that Pax seems like “the outsider” and its obvious with him being omitted, and she changed his name at 4 and took him from the only envioronment he knows. That is going to take a toll.

    If anyone of their kids are going to turn out “diffrent” its going to be him because of the way the upbringing happened. Someone said that you see all these adopted kids when their young, but NEVER when their older. They were talking about white celebs who adopt black kids. I LMAO. I have seen Connor Cruise and he is cute, and is going into acting like his parents. Will be starring in “Red Dawn” remake. But I realized I never seen Speilbergs child who has to be older then Connor.

    Shiloh will most likely turn into a beautiful straight woman, her being 4 and her parents letting her do what she wants is normal, but when they are changing her look and saying that she requested these things its ridiculous because its not possible. My mom used to dress me really girly at that age, and I’m in my mid 20’s and am a sneaker/tee shirt gal. Totally straight but when I hit high school the dresses went out the window, but no one ever mistook me for a guy. If I didn’t know better you think Shi was a boy by her looks, not actions and thats what matters. If Ang said she did it because its easier on her, its more buyable then Shiloh saying “Mommy cut my hair off”!

  118. Mia says:

    # 38

    I think she’s a dead ringer for Chaz too.

    Fun.

    She’s Chaz’s mini-he.

  119. Cynthia Ellen says:

    I think it sad. Why does she want to be a boy? Something does not seem right here. My field of expertise is Child and Youth Care. Whatever happened to celebrating ones gender? Shiloh is at the developmental stage where pleasing her parents is paramount – a child will repeat behaviour that parents respond favorably too. I think they are placing their desire to appear progressive over Shiloh’s health. It’s okay for a girl to want to dress rough and tumble – tom boyish, but cutting Shiloh’s hair is sending a message to Shiloh about her gender. Just bvecause a girl likes to do boyish activities does not mean they are a boy or should have been born male. They are taking a clothing preference and extending it to the childs identity – 90% of transvestites were dressed as the opposite gender when they were young – leading to gender identity confusion. As adults they often express that they knew one of the parents they were trying to gain approval from would have preferred they be of the opposite gender. I am not slamming the Jolie-Pitts. These are well documented facts, as young parents, it is easy to jump on the latest fad band wagan that can and often does have damaging consequences for children – Shiloh is a female – nothing they do to her will change her genes – teaching self acceptance and celebrating ones gender is always healthy and much more preferable to trying to change who someone is on a biological and inate level.