Comments on: Designers may face prosecution under proposed French anorexia law http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/ Stylish celebrity escapism Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:42:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: anonymous http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18538 anonymous Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:21:23 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18538 I also recommend taking personal responsibility for your choices. But for everyone out there willing to charge more for smokers, overeaters, anorexics etc.... What about people with a greater number of sexual partners, mountain climbers, sky divers or others that take great personal risk for fun, people who love to speed on the highway or use their cell phones and put on makeup or eat while driving.... The list is endless. I also recommend taking personal responsibility for your choices. But for everyone out there willing to charge more for smokers, overeaters, anorexics etc….

What about people with a greater number of sexual partners, mountain climbers, sky divers or others that take great personal risk for fun, people who love to speed on the highway or use their cell phones and put on makeup or eat while driving….

The list is endless.

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]]> By: geronimo http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18537 geronimo Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:55 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18537 Bellatrix - I watched the documentary and the interview with this woman about 5/6 months ago when it first hit the news (in UK) and I, for one, was incredibly moved by her and her courage in putting herself in the spotlight to make such an important point. It was very touching. Bellatrix - I watched the documentary and the interview with this woman about 5/6 months ago when it first hit the news (in UK) and I, for one, was incredibly moved by her and her courage in putting herself in the spotlight to make such an important point. It was very touching.

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]]> By: Bellatrix http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18536 Bellatrix Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:19:50 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18536 As for those wondering what is happening on her lower back : I don't think it is a fungus. It is most probably a skin reaction to her illness. I've had an anorexic friend and when she was at her lowest point (and close to death), she had parcels of skin that would peel off, change of colour. You can also see that her feet are turning blue : anorexic people are always cold and the hands and feet are the first parts of the body that are being naturally cut off by your organism in order to spare essential body warmth and keep your brain and heart going. These horrible things happen to your body (as well as losing your hair, having very fragile nails, etc.). I wish people would show some respect for the woman who posed for NoLiTa. She's courageous to show off her features like that since they show how terrible the body becomes once you're anorexic. As for those wondering what is happening on her lower back : I don’t think it is a fungus.
It is most probably a skin reaction to her illness. I’ve had an anorexic friend and when she was at her lowest point (and close to death), she had parcels of skin that would peel off, change of colour. You can also see that her feet are turning blue : anorexic people are always cold and the hands and feet are the first parts of the body that are being naturally cut off by your organism in order to spare essential body warmth and keep your brain and heart going. These horrible things happen to your body (as well as losing your hair, having very fragile nails, etc.).

I wish people would show some respect for the woman who posed for NoLiTa. She’s courageous to show off her features like that since they show how terrible the body becomes once you’re anorexic.

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]]> By: Bellatrix http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18535 Bellatrix Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:15:02 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18535 MSat : France is NOT socialist. The socialist party lost against the right wing party UMP. This law is being proposed by the right wing, not the left wing (the left wing among which the PAS - the Socialist Party -, the PCF - the French Communist Party-, the Green Party , etc. are against this law as it does not treat anorexia truly : as a mental disease). MSat : France is NOT socialist. The socialist party lost against the right wing party UMP. This law is being proposed by the right wing, not the left wing (the left wing among which the PAS - the Socialist Party -, the PCF - the French Communist Party-, the Green Party , etc. are against this law as it does not treat anorexia truly : as a mental disease).

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]]> By: mollination http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18534 mollination Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:49:57 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18534 Scott F, your original comment made me laugh. And hey...stop smoking. It's so hard your body. I like your posts and want you to live for a while. Also, as much as anorexia is a mental problem, it's not like anorexics were born with this innate desire to be thin. They were born with an innate desire to be perfect. That's where the mental issue comes in, because they can't see what they really look like (body dysmorphia) and they have an obsessive, unhealthy drive to "fix" themselves. So us saying that thin is perfect and that fat means you have no self-control or willpower, is what turns the disorder into anorexia. As opposed to 200 years ago when that was not the notion, I doubt this disorder manifested itself in the same way. Scott F, your original comment made me laugh. And hey…stop smoking. It’s so hard your body. I like your posts and want you to live for a while.

Also, as much as anorexia is a mental problem, it’s not like anorexics were born with this innate desire to be thin. They were born with an innate desire to be perfect. That’s where the mental issue comes in, because they can’t see what they really look like (body dysmorphia) and they have an obsessive, unhealthy drive to “fix” themselves.

So us saying that thin is perfect and that fat means you have no self-control or willpower, is what turns the disorder into anorexia. As opposed to 200 years ago when that was not the notion, I doubt this disorder manifested itself in the same way.

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]]> By: RC http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18533 RC Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:51:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18533 i'm kinda with scott on this one. that aside, a couple nitpicky things. a) marilyn monroe was a size 10 in the 50s. (size 10 with boobs). i'm a size 10-12 in sewing sizes (stdized in the 50s) and i wear a 4-6 in ready-made. she wasn't THAT big, and i'm sick of that nostalgic myth. it's the clothes that have changed, not the women wearing them. b) anorexia does occur, although with less regularity in culture where "thinness" is not the cultural ideal (subSaharan Africa). it is, however, not usually described as a desire to be thin so much as a persistent "lack of appetite" past the point when a body desperately needs nutrition. c) there seems to have been between some people (xiao, scott, i'm lookin at you) a bit of miscommunication on the difference between voluptous/big and obese. you can be plus size and be healthy. in fact some studies shoe people 5-10 pounds overweight may have healthier hearts from carrying the extra load. but obesity is not a style choice, it's a life choice, and it is a killer. massively fat is not just not ideal, it is legitimately a problem. stop defending it, stop rationalizing it, obesity is almost as unhealthy as (and far more prevalent than) anorexia. i’m kinda with scott on this one. that aside, a couple nitpicky things.
a) marilyn monroe was a size 10 in the 50s. (size 10 with boobs). i’m a size 10-12 in sewing sizes (stdized in the 50s) and i wear a 4-6 in ready-made. she wasn’t THAT big, and i’m sick of that nostalgic myth. it’s the clothes that have changed, not the women wearing them.
b) anorexia does occur, although with less regularity in culture where “thinness” is not the cultural ideal (subSaharan Africa). it is, however, not usually described as a desire to be thin so much as a persistent “lack of appetite” past the point when a body desperately needs nutrition.
c) there seems to have been between some people (xiao, scott, i’m lookin at you) a bit of miscommunication on the difference between voluptous/big and obese. you can be plus size and be healthy. in fact some studies shoe people 5-10 pounds overweight may have healthier hearts from carrying the extra load. but obesity is not a style choice, it’s a life choice, and it is a killer. massively fat is not just not ideal, it is legitimately a problem. stop defending it, stop rationalizing it, obesity is almost as unhealthy as (and far more prevalent than) anorexia.

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]]> By: headache http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18532 headache Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:44:15 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18532 Queeny, that's a ridiculous argument asking for past research in diagnosing issues such as anorexia which were not even recognized as illnesses in generations where autistic children were dismissed as slow, stubborn or simply locked away. There are plenty of illnesses and issues in our culture that have always been there but simply not understood, acknowledged or accepted by the medical community. After all, back in the "glorious era of voluptuous women" homosexuality was considered a mental illness. And btw, Marilyn may have wore a size 16 back in the day but dress sizes are different now than they were then. http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.asp Look at the nude play boys pics of her and tell me that's an overweight girl by anyone's standards. Marilyn and Jane Russell were not the only big name stars that you can use them to be representative of an entire era. Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Heburn, Joan Rontaine, Bette Davis, Grace Kelly, Rita Hayworth. These women all came in a variety of sizes. And even the so called voluptuous girls were normal women with average bodies shoved to hell and back into girdles and conical bras. Look at the under garments of the day and tell me they didn't use those to cinch in a girl's waist to next to nothing then pad her ass and her tits to create the hourglass that was favored then. You really think those waists were natural? Oh and let's not forget that though Marilyn's curves were embraced, her naturally darker hair, wider chin and every thing else they cut up, shaved off and pulled back with plastic surgery was not. Women were judged just as harshly if not more so for their looks and weight in the 40's and 50's as they were now so stop acting as if it were some greater time and we've all become evil consumers. As least now, our stars are not white washed into being the perfect American dream or forced into finding work overseas because they happened to become pregnant out of wedlock. Or should an ethnically diverse actress find herself with some modicum of fame, she is no longer segregated from the rest of the cast, her scenes written so they can be edited out in southern theaters or relegated to playing maids and native girls. Queeny, that’s a ridiculous argument asking for past research in diagnosing issues such as anorexia which were not even recognized as illnesses in generations where autistic children were dismissed as slow, stubborn or simply locked away.

There are plenty of illnesses and issues in our culture that have always been there but simply not understood, acknowledged or accepted by the medical community. After all, back in the “glorious era of voluptuous women” homosexuality was considered a mental illness.

And btw, Marilyn may have wore a size 16 back in the day but dress sizes are different now than they were then.
http://www.snopes.com/movies/actors/mmdress.asp Look at the nude play boys pics of her and tell me that’s an overweight girl by anyone’s standards.

Marilyn and Jane Russell were not the only big name stars that you can use them to be representative of an entire era. Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Heburn, Joan Rontaine, Bette Davis, Grace Kelly, Rita Hayworth. These women all came in a variety of sizes.

And even the so called voluptuous girls were normal women with average bodies shoved to hell and back into girdles and conical bras. Look at the under garments of the day and tell me they didn’t use those to cinch in a girl’s waist to next to nothing then pad her ass and her tits to create the hourglass that was favored then. You really think those waists were natural?

Oh and let’s not forget that though Marilyn’s curves were embraced, her naturally darker hair, wider chin and every thing else they cut up, shaved off and pulled back with plastic surgery was not.

Women were judged just as harshly if not more so for their looks and weight in the 40’s and 50’s as they were now so stop acting as if it were some greater time and we’ve all become evil consumers.

As least now, our stars are not white washed into being the perfect American dream or forced into finding work overseas because they happened to become pregnant out of wedlock. Or should an ethnically diverse actress find herself with some modicum of fame, she is no longer segregated from the rest of the cast, her scenes written so they can be edited out in southern theaters or relegated to playing maids and native girls.

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]]> By: Susan http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18531 Susan Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:34:53 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18531 bros - I completely agree with you! It reeks of the beauty myth that Naomi Wolf wrote about, used as a political weapon to keep so-called liberated women from threatening the patriarchy. Before anyone accuses me of being some extreme feminist, honestly, read Wolf first -- it makes so much sense. bros - I completely agree with you! It reeks of the beauty myth that Naomi Wolf wrote about, used as a political weapon to keep so-called liberated women from threatening the patriarchy. Before anyone accuses me of being some extreme feminist, honestly, read Wolf first — it makes so much sense.

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]]> By: Cindy Kennedy http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18530 Cindy Kennedy Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:20:47 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18530 One problem is, why are so many young women drawn to the modeling industry? Why aren't we encouraging young women to go into viable careers where they can actually have a real future? Most models don't earn enough money to live on - that is a fact. Its only supermodels who make the big money. One problem is, why are so many young women drawn to the modeling industry? Why aren’t we encouraging young women to go into viable careers where they can actually have a real future? Most models don’t earn enough money to live on - that is a fact. Its only supermodels who make the big money.

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]]> By: Megan http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18529 Megan Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:05:41 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/10781/websites_and_designers_may_face_prosecution_in_new_french_anorexia_law/#comment-18529 Why is there like a fungus on her butt? Why is there like a fungus on her butt?

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