Comments on: Marion Cotillard for Interview Mag, plus thoughts on ‘Inception’ http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:09:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: MissyA http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1135976 MissyA Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:40:11 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1135976 *SPOILERS* Just got back from Inception. Such a great movie (though overtly Hollywood). I agree with S - I didn't see a "love story" in as much as I saw psychosis. Inventing a completely different reality to cope with a deep and pervasive guilt. I thought it was fascinating. As much as I love Ellen Page, I think they lost her character. She was flat and ineffectual. I think they could have revealed Cobb's detrimental state of mind without her character. I was really upset when she abruptly violated his psyche via lullabyland - and the fact that it was never addressed that she did so! But then again, I guess they wouldn't have the 5th member to pull Cobb back from the brink at the final subconscious level. MrMissy didn't like all the Hollywood special effects. He felt like scenes like the ski chase were unnecessary and detracted from the psychological impact of the movie. I thought the action sequences did a good job of conveying the panic and claustrophobia you feel at the tale end of a violent/dramatic dream. Not so much the visceral sensation, but the visual scale of destruction. (That, and I f'en love explosions in the movie theater!) Overall, it was much better than I was anticipating. Very Jungian - very psychosexy. Couldn't help but picture all of the costars as "projections" of the protagonist Cobb from the word go. I'd love to see it again, this time trying to compartmentalize all the characters. I probably wouldn't pay to see it, but I'll netflix it. (Or risk revoking my summer movie privileges and sneak in.) ETA - I thought Marion did an excellent job emoting a deep-seated Resentment. If you perceive her as a projection as Dicaprio's own guilty conscious, her direction makes a lot more sense. *SPOILERS*

Just got back from Inception. Such a great movie (though overtly Hollywood). I agree with S – I didn’t see a “love story” in as much as I saw psychosis. Inventing a completely different reality to cope with a deep and pervasive guilt. I thought it was fascinating.

As much as I love Ellen Page, I think they lost her character. She was flat and ineffectual. I think they could have revealed Cobb’s detrimental state of mind without her character. I was really upset when she abruptly violated his psyche via lullabyland – and the fact that it was never addressed that she did so! But then again, I guess they wouldn’t have the 5th member to pull Cobb back from the brink at the final subconscious level.

MrMissy didn’t like all the Hollywood special effects. He felt like scenes like the ski chase were unnecessary and detracted from the psychological impact of the movie. I thought the action sequences did a good job of conveying the panic and claustrophobia you feel at the tale end of a violent/dramatic dream. Not so much the visceral sensation, but the visual scale of destruction. (That, and I f’en love explosions in the movie theater!)

Overall, it was much better than I was anticipating. Very Jungian – very psychosexy. Couldn’t help but picture all of the costars as “projections” of the protagonist Cobb from the word go. I’d love to see it again, this time trying to compartmentalize all the characters. I probably wouldn’t pay to see it, but I’ll netflix it. (Or risk revoking my summer movie privileges and sneak in.)

ETA – I thought Marion did an excellent job emoting a deep-seated Resentment. If you perceive her as a projection as Dicaprio’s own guilty conscious, her direction makes a lot more sense.

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]]> By: Mairead http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1135081 Mairead Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:59:44 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1135081 @ CB, that's my understanding of it. And remember, because Cobb had spent so long in Limbo before, it was populated with his and Mal's creations. Sato was in his mansion because he wasn't properly trained to go into dreams like Ariadne, for example, and didn't know the rule of "not creating from memory" - because that was the best way of losing yourself into the alternative reality. That would have hastened Sato's aging process as he gave himself more into the mock reality in Limbo which races ahead of "real time" at a phenomenal rate. Cobb had only aged slightly by the time of the meeting as he knew he was in limbo and was more immune to its effects. Exactly <i>how</i> he found Sato, I'm not sure, but I presume Cobb assumed Sato would imagine what he knew and worked from there. Also I've said it before, but I'd also pay attention to names - they all have a relevance and help explains everyone's role and impetus. Cobb was The Prisoner trapped in a strange reality, Ariadne was the weaver of Ancient Greek myth, Yusuf is a dream interpreter. I don't know the relevance of all, but the Mal character reminds me of Hel in "Metropolis". @ CB, that’s my understanding of it. And remember, because Cobb had spent so long in Limbo before, it was populated with his and Mal’s creations.

Sato was in his mansion because he wasn’t properly trained to go into dreams like Ariadne, for example, and didn’t know the rule of “not creating from memory” – because that was the best way of losing yourself into the alternative reality. That would have hastened Sato’s aging process as he gave himself more into the mock reality in Limbo which races ahead of “real time” at a phenomenal rate. Cobb had only aged slightly by the time of the meeting as he knew he was in limbo and was more immune to its effects. Exactly how he found Sato, I’m not sure, but I presume Cobb assumed Sato would imagine what he knew and worked from there.

Also I’ve said it before, but I’d also pay attention to names – they all have a relevance and help explains everyone’s role and impetus. Cobb was The Prisoner trapped in a strange reality, Ariadne was the weaver of Ancient Greek myth, Yusuf is a dream interpreter. I don’t know the relevance of all, but the Mal character reminds me of Hel in “Metropolis”.

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]]> By: Dawn http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1134617 Dawn Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:34:41 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1134617 Joesph Gordan Levitt is the hotness! Rockin'that suit hard. Joesph Gordan Levitt is the hotness! Rockin’that suit hard.

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]]> By: nona http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1134370 nona Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:05:55 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1134370 This "interview" is vomit inducing This “interview” is vomit inducing

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]]> By: gabs http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1134014 gabs Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:51:49 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1134014 Im with you. It was very good, great for this summer but its not the best thing ever like some critics are saying. It felt contrived like it was trying too hard to be confusing. The ending was ridiculous, they should have just shown it stop spinning or not. Everyone laughed and groaned in my theater not in a good way. It was great but not enough to watch 5 times. I understood it the first time. Plus Leo? It was like his Shutter Island all over again Cant wait to watch SALT this week!! Im with you. It was very good, great for this summer but its not the best thing ever like some critics are saying. It felt contrived like it was trying too hard to be confusing. The ending was ridiculous, they should have just shown it stop spinning or not. Everyone laughed and groaned in my theater not in a good way.

It was great but not enough to watch 5 times. I understood it the first time. Plus Leo? It was like his Shutter Island all over again

Cant wait to watch SALT this week!!

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]]> By: S http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1133952 S Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:56:41 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1133952 I loved Inception and thought it was brilliant, and the "love story" wasn't supposed to be a "love story", so no wonder you wouldn't like it if you're thinking that's what it is. It is more about his intense grieving and guilt and regret, and how his subconscious has created Mall in terms of that. It's like when JGL told Ellen that she was lovely in real life, but all we see is this crazy person (which Marion did wonderfully I thought), it's because that is his projection of all his guilt and regret over what happened with them - over his inception of her. There were some holes in I think, but not enough to really affect the quality of the movie. There are some amazing theories out there over what it all means. I definitely want to see it again to look for things I may have missed. I feel like it's one of those unraveling movies. I loved Inception and thought it was brilliant, and the “love story” wasn’t supposed to be a “love story”, so no wonder you wouldn’t like it if you’re thinking that’s what it is. It is more about his intense grieving and guilt and regret, and how his subconscious has created Mall in terms of that. It’s like when JGL told Ellen that she was lovely in real life, but all we see is this crazy person (which Marion did wonderfully I thought), it’s because that is his projection of all his guilt and regret over what happened with them – over his inception of her.

There were some holes in I think, but not enough to really affect the quality of the movie. There are some amazing theories out there over what it all means. I definitely want to see it again to look for things I may have missed. I feel like it’s one of those unraveling movies.

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]]> By: 6 http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1133854 6 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:47:36 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1133854 Pretty woman, yes. Eccentric, no. I think she sounds like she is in love with the idea of being different rather than truly being different. Pretty woman, yes. Eccentric, no. I think she sounds like she is in love with the idea of being different rather than truly being different.

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]]> By: Celebitchy http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1133768 Celebitchy Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:55:29 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1133768 SPOILERS @Mairead - thank you! That makes a more sense to me now. So a few hours in that level of subconscious can make a person feel old and as if they've experienced decades. I was comparing that final scene to the story that Cobb told about how he spent decades with Moll down there. I didn't get why it made a difference if he was able to catch up with Sato at the very end, especially when they didn't show how he "saved" him. My husband explained to me that they technically wouldn't need a "kick" to wake up down there, because that's the bottom and they're getting a kick from the higher levels, which of course makes logical sense but didn't occur to me when I was watching it. I kept wondering how he saved him exactly and why it made a difference if they met up in very old age. Plus, when Cobb explained the time he spent down there with Moll they "died" as young people on the train tracks, which is shown as pushing them back to reality and planting the idea in her head as she woke up. (Dying at that deep level may not necessarily wake them up, according to the rules, but they're shown waking at that point.) However, Cobb also said they grew old together down there - but when they died, they were young. Now, I know these are dreams but I want to understand the logic of that world as Nolan constructed it. I know it's somewhat fluid and things change at whim, etc. So it would make sense that people can age and get young again, but apart from that inconsistency it was never explained. SPOILERS
@Mairead – thank you! That makes a more sense to me now. So a few hours in that level of subconscious can make a person feel old and as if they’ve experienced decades. I was comparing that final scene to the story that Cobb told about how he spent decades with Moll down there. I didn’t get why it made a difference if he was able to catch up with Sato at the very end, especially when they didn’t show how he “saved” him. My husband explained to me that they technically wouldn’t need a “kick” to wake up down there, because that’s the bottom and they’re getting a kick from the higher levels, which of course makes logical sense but didn’t occur to me when I was watching it. I kept wondering how he saved him exactly and why it made a difference if they met up in very old age.

Plus, when Cobb explained the time he spent down there with Moll they “died” as young people on the train tracks, which is shown as pushing them back to reality and planting the idea in her head as she woke up. (Dying at that deep level may not necessarily wake them up, according to the rules, but they’re shown waking at that point.) However, Cobb also said they grew old together down there – but when they died, they were young.

Now, I know these are dreams but I want to understand the logic of that world as Nolan constructed it. I know it’s somewhat fluid and things change at whim, etc. So it would make sense that people can age and get young again, but apart from that inconsistency it was never explained.

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]]> By: Cath http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1132821 Cath Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:49:25 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1132821 I love how Nicole Kidman manages to talk about herself in every answer. LOL. I love how Nicole Kidman manages to talk about herself in every answer. LOL.

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]]> By: original kate http://www.celebitchy.com/109169/marion_cotillard_for_interview_mag_plus_thoughts_on_inception/#comment-1132760 original kate Wed, 21 Jul 2010 02:22:09 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=109169#comment-1132760 marion is gorgeous - hopefully she will learn from nicole's frozen face to lay off the botox. marion is gorgeous – hopefully she will learn from nicole’s frozen face to lay off the botox.

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