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		<title>By: gg</title>
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		<dc:creator>gg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only say I am shocked she's not been led to help earlier just for being a drug-addled crazy bitch.

If her dad can do something, for ff's sake, GOOD.  Haul her ass in.  Whatever works.

Dads can do less about their sons, maybe just because of overpowering strength alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only say I am shocked she&#8217;s not been led to help earlier just for being a drug-addled crazy bitch.</p>
<p>If her dad can do something, for ff&#8217;s sake, GOOD.  Haul her ass in.  Whatever works.</p>
<p>Dads can do less about their sons, maybe just because of overpowering strength alone.
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		<title>By: xiaoecho</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaoecho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bros......You know you've pretty well won the debate when people start nitpicking about grammar/spelling/typos'

and my original comment on your post should have been hear hear! not here here!........oops - wasn't concentrating</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bros&#8230;&#8230;You know you&#8217;ve pretty well won the debate when people start nitpicking about grammar/spelling/typos&#8217;</p>
<p>and my original comment on your post should have been hear hear! not here here!&#8230;&#8230;..oops - wasn&#8217;t concentrating
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Retarded?  That's pretty rich coming from someone lacking the physical or mental dexterity to navigate the 1/8th inch gap between the letter Z and the SHIFT button.  

Bottom line - if you're going to start bitching about societal inequality when it comes to sex, you might want to pick a different area than the justice system.  A system where women are routinely let off with lighter sentences for the same crimes, are given the benefit of the doubt in nearly all custody and divorce cases, ect.  

I'm a father myself, and if she was my daughter (or my son) I would be doing exactly the same thing.  As headache pointed out, Martin Sheen was just as vocal about helping his son as Amy's dad is.  It's not a question of society thinking some poor helpless girl needs a hand up - it's a father who's trying desperately to save his child.  If you can't see even altruistic acts like these without painting them with your own political hangups, and accusing people of shady motives, then I kind of feel sorry for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Retarded?  That&#8217;s pretty rich coming from someone lacking the physical or mental dexterity to navigate the 1/8th inch gap between the letter Z and the SHIFT button.  </p>
<p>Bottom line - if you&#8217;re going to start bitching about societal inequality when it comes to sex, you might want to pick a different area than the justice system.  A system where women are routinely let off with lighter sentences for the same crimes, are given the benefit of the doubt in nearly all custody and divorce cases, ect.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a father myself, and if she was my daughter (or my son) I would be doing exactly the same thing.  As headache pointed out, Martin Sheen was just as vocal about helping his son as Amy&#8217;s dad is.  It&#8217;s not a question of society thinking some poor helpless girl needs a hand up - it&#8217;s a father who&#8217;s trying desperately to save his child.  If you can&#8217;t see even altruistic acts like these without painting them with your own political hangups, and accusing people of shady motives, then I kind of feel sorry for you.
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		<title>By: Snowblood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snowblood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I for one saw Bros' point immediately from his/her first post, and I agree with it. The point, that Bros made, I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I for one saw Bros&#8217; point immediately from his/her first post, and I agree with it. The point, that Bros made, I mean.
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		<title>By: bros</title>
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		<dc:creator>bros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh my god scott, you seriously must be retarded. i am making a qualitative distinction rather than a quantitative distinction-a subtelty that you repeatedly fail to understand even when other commenters on the site understood my clarification. why are you even talking about CIA factbook statistics. you have now proven yourself too dense to understand anything so i give up because you are missing the point (while still proving mine at the same time). maybe you are an idiot savant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh my god scott, you seriously must be retarded. i am making a qualitative distinction rather than a quantitative distinction-a subtelty that you repeatedly fail to understand even when other commenters on the site understood my clarification. why are you even talking about CIA factbook statistics. you have now proven yourself too dense to understand anything so i give up because you are missing the point (while still proving mine at the same time). maybe you are an idiot savant.
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		<title>By: T-Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C'mon you guys...you just continue to forget...Does this help your memory..."Try to make me go to rehab I said no no no"...Remember?  The chick wasn't lying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon you guys&#8230;you just continue to forget&#8230;Does this help your memory&#8230;&#8221;Try to make me go to rehab I said no no no&#8221;&#8230;Remember?  The chick wasn&#8217;t lying&#8230;
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 01:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're still managing to miss my point.  

"plently of men are caught/photographed using drugs or causing car accidents or being abusive and get away with muh lighter sentences than they deserve"

I'm not talking about what they 'deserve', I'm talking about cold statistics.  Check sentencing statistics for anywhere in the country (I believe you can find them on the CIA factbook page) and you'll see that women get lighter sentences than men for the same crimes.  This isn't even disputable, it's first year law school stuff.

The classic example are the 'postpartum' cases.  Find me any case in American history where a man killed all of his children and anyone cared about his state of mind at the time.  Am I bitching about the discrepancy?  No.  I just accept that our society operates that way. I do find it ironic that you're claiming she's being singled out though.

All of the men you named have been in serious legal trouble for the same behavior she's getting away with, and it's not just her.  Robert Downey Jr. spent more than a year in jail.  Tom Sizemore - ditto.  Amy Winehouse got a warning for a videotaped assault.  Who's really got the bum deal here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re still managing to miss my point.  </p>
<p>&#8220;plently of men are caught/photographed using drugs or causing car accidents or being abusive and get away with muh lighter sentences than they deserve&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about what they &#8216;deserve&#8217;, I&#8217;m talking about cold statistics.  Check sentencing statistics for anywhere in the country (I believe you can find them on the CIA factbook page) and you&#8217;ll see that women get lighter sentences than men for the same crimes.  This isn&#8217;t even disputable, it&#8217;s first year law school stuff.</p>
<p>The classic example are the &#8216;postpartum&#8217; cases.  Find me any case in American history where a man killed all of his children and anyone cared about his state of mind at the time.  Am I bitching about the discrepancy?  No.  I just accept that our society operates that way. I do find it ironic that you&#8217;re claiming she&#8217;s being singled out though.</p>
<p>All of the men you named have been in serious legal trouble for the same behavior she&#8217;s getting away with, and it&#8217;s not just her.  Robert Downey Jr. spent more than a year in jail.  Tom Sizemore - ditto.  Amy Winehouse got a warning for a videotaped assault.  Who&#8217;s really got the bum deal here?
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		<title>By: headache</title>
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		<dc:creator>headache</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bros does have a point now that he's clarified himself. Amy is a grown adult and the calls for her father to come rescue her are odd I suppose in light of that.

I think the only reason I suggested it for Britney was for the sake of Mr Spears' grandbabies.

Charlie Sheen's father however, was very vocal about his son's issues and his hope that Charlie would get the help he needed. It is because of Martin Sheen's actions when Charlie was acting the ass, that I sided with Charlie when Denise Richards made her claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bros does have a point now that he&#8217;s clarified himself. Amy is a grown adult and the calls for her father to come rescue her are odd I suppose in light of that.</p>
<p>I think the only reason I suggested it for Britney was for the sake of Mr Spears&#8217; grandbabies.</p>
<p>Charlie Sheen&#8217;s father however, was very vocal about his son&#8217;s issues and his hope that Charlie would get the help he needed. It is because of Martin Sheen&#8217;s actions when Charlie was acting the ass, that I sided with Charlie when Denise Richards made her claims.
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		<title>By: bros</title>
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		<dc:creator>bros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yah scott. youre proving my point with every sentence. paternalistic and patronizing punishments are being reserved for grown women as the public asks "where are her parents? why dont they do something" when everyone is perfectly content to let the police and the state deal with sizemore et al when it feels that they have transgressed enough.  plently of men are caught/photographed using drugs or causing car accidents or being abusive and get away with muh lighter sentences than they deserve, so it isnt that all women are getting off to easy and the poor men are being prosecuted all over the place. please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yah scott. youre proving my point with every sentence. paternalistic and patronizing punishments are being reserved for grown women as the public asks &#8220;where are her parents? why dont they do something&#8221; when everyone is perfectly content to let the police and the state deal with sizemore et al when it feels that they have transgressed enough.  plently of men are caught/photographed using drugs or causing car accidents or being abusive and get away with muh lighter sentences than they deserve, so it isnt that all women are getting off to easy and the poor men are being prosecuted all over the place. please.
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		<title>By: Scott F.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 23:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>'In addition to state punishment' - in addition to what punishment exactly?  Seriously, your argument is pretty damn ironic when you think about it.  These women are AVOIDING criminal prosecution for the same crimes that those men headache and I mentioned were charged and convicted of - and instead their daddies are coming to save the day.

Ask Charlie Sheen if he would rather have been in trouble with the law or had Martin Sheen embarrass him a little in the public eye and get him some help.  

You're bitching about them being persecuted when men wouldn't be, but in fact they're getting off way lighter than any of those men did for similar offenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;In addition to state punishment&#8217; - in addition to what punishment exactly?  Seriously, your argument is pretty damn ironic when you think about it.  These women are AVOIDING criminal prosecution for the same crimes that those men headache and I mentioned were charged and convicted of - and instead their daddies are coming to save the day.</p>
<p>Ask Charlie Sheen if he would rather have been in trouble with the law or had Martin Sheen embarrass him a little in the public eye and get him some help.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re bitching about them being persecuted when men wouldn&#8217;t be, but in fact they&#8217;re getting off way lighter than any of those men did for similar offenses.
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