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Written by Helen
Posted in Cynthia Nixon, Kim Cattrall, Kristin Davis, Lauren Hutton, Sarah Jessica Parker, Sex and the City, Sluts
37 Responses to “Lauren Hutton says SATC movie was written by male sluts”
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I wouldn´t say men are sluts, they do tend to be more sex driven then women, which doesn´t imply directly having like hundreds of sex partners…
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Really? 17 or 18 or 42 partners make you a slut? The average New York woman has 9 men in a lifetime?
I don’t know whether to brag or slink away embarrassed.
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I disagree with that completely. Most men I know are not sluts nor are they attracted to promiscuous women. I’d say American women (generally speaking) tend to be difficult because they assume that all men are either this or that and that they have no issues or problems and all the problems of the world are mens fault. S&TC is a movie. A piece of fiction. Anyone who thinks this movie reflects reality needs to wise up.
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I am going to guess Lauren Hutton didn’t watch the show. First Victoria’s Secret is that SHE is a HE… and HE still makes damned fine undies. So the writers being a mix of men and women gay or straight has no effect or punch. But, the show does NOT tell women ANYTHING about SUPPOSED to. The truth is that through your 20s and 30s in todays day and age you are GOING to have multiple sex partners if you are East Coast or West Coast. I cannot speak to the middle of the USA I don’t live there and never did. But SATC has never TOLD me how to live or be. ALL it did was say hey look, this is a common experience. As for Samantha’s character, there is NO shame in a woman who ENJOYS sex and has trouble with monogamy to be shown in a responsible light. IT IS HER LIFE AND HER STORY. There are ALOT of women like her that are fully functional capable adults. I am offended by Lauren Hutton right now. She lives her life on the back of a motor cycle … do we JUDGE? Back off gramma!
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PS… NINE? The average is NINE? Yeah… in MY CITY? No. No way. Here is a clue Ms Hutton, people…LIE on surverys annonymous or not. NINE? Who the heck did they interview? People that got married by 35? NINE? no. No tha is just not right. I am 100% sure they interviewed no writer, broadway actor, or bartender. LOL. Sorry. But what an insane premise to base her anger of SATC on. For the record, a SLUT is a woman who uses sex to go “forward” in her social or economic status. That is FAR from being a woman in control of herself and her destiny choosing to get it on.
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LOL @ syko!
Survey schmurvey. Men lie upwards, women lie downwards. All this fuss over what, by all accounts, is a fairly banal and indifferent film. Which is a shame as S&TC was great. Shame they didn’t quit while they were ahead.
Hutton needs to chill and save her opinions for things that matter. What she probably needs is a good…er…book to take her mind off the decadence of the modern world.
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Lilly, I have a slight problem with “Gramma” being used as a derogatory term, since I am a grandmother. Otherwise you’re right on, and I can testify that people in the middle of the country are just as active as people on the coasts. I spent the first 50 years of my life in the midwest, 2 years on the west coast and 13 on the east coast. I think my being more active on the east coast was probably due to the several navy bases nearby, but there was no lackanooky in Missouri either.
I don’t think anyone should be forced to apologize for their sexuality - it’s not a dirty thing, after all. I also don’t think Lauren Hutton has any right to be pointing fingers at women who have a healthy enjoyment of the opposite gender.
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Well slap my ass & call me above average!
As a side note, I didn’t really know who Lauren Hutton is (her “movie career” was done when I was a young child); I just Wikipedia’d her and discovered she is from my hometown. Who knew?
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those who complain about other people being “sluts” are people who aren’t getting enough sex themselves. otherwise who cares? especially since it is a tv show, after all. lauren sounds like a stupid cow.
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Im no slut at all … i’ve only had 2 casual partners. Im 25 and i already hit the 9 mark and it looks like that relationship is down the crapper now… so i was thinking the other day… wow looks like my number is going to go higher! Im sure that in the next 5 .. or even 10 years… its gonna go higher than I expected. Im no slut - slut isn’t a number its how you GET that number- so im not worried but I didn’t really ever think I’d get passed 10 … oh well!
Oh and I’m in NYC so I guess it is true… there’s just more of everything here!
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no disrespect meant syko… mea culpa I am sorry! I should have just called her leatherface!! Haha..ehem…sorry….
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9? For real? Um… yeah right. I’ve lieved in the same college town for 14 years & almost every young person here is WAY above 9! People lie on surveys left & right. Besides, it a condom company. They want good PR so of course they are gonna release a low “number”
And BS to “Women in other parts of the country tend to get married much younger. It’s not a big deal to be single in your 30s in New York,”
Its not a big deal be single in you 30s anywhere anymore!
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so we have a bunch of gay guys telling women they are suposed to sleep with lots of guys. wow, that makes sense. wait, um - what? that chica is fugly and she is probably just jealous that no one will shag her anymore - or maybe the only dudes she is shagging are sluts because only sluts will go there. fug.
*okay, i am done. i made my silly, stupid comment for the day. from here on out it’s much more put together. thanks.* -
Twenty years ago I had a client who was a huge sex toy/ sexy gear company, (creative director of their catalogue). Guess where the majority of their multi millions in sales came from? The mid west!
As for that number, every time I think I’ve got it I remember someone I’d forgotten. Ditto for my DH.
Must be age creeping up on us! -
It was a great show and im sure it is a great movie, thats all that matters to me. Sex in the city is supposed to be entertainment. People need stop reading into these things so deeply. As for Lauren Hutton…. Lauren who?
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So many things in her quote that are complete bunk. I can’t even go into it - I’d be here all day.
I don’t think all men are sluts by a long shot - the critical point is that masculinity is usually measured by how sexually apparent (however you choose to get there) a man is - and, evenmore importantly, any man who ISN’T like that is looked on suspiciously.
Sleeping with, and appealing to, lots of women can even improve a man’s social bearing over class and income.
With that kind of pressure - and given that it’s the best male shortcut to masculinity it’s no wonder most men cave - but even so, no,
all men aren’t like that (though some of them do pretend they are).
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I definitely agree that all men aren’t sluts. While we’ve never in depth discussed our numbers, I am quite positive that my DH’s number is significantly less than mine. I’m 28 and hit the “average number” YEARS ago, and had a damned good time doing it.
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I think 9 is on the high side for people that I know. Guys and girls. I am from the midwest and having lots of partners where I come from is not a good thing…..
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Technically they are referred to as ‘gay boys’. There’s not one drop of hetero male influence in that entire show.
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i feel very innocent all of a sudden.
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9?
is that this month?
Yes I think it is!
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I must say, I think I’ve up’d the average to at least 10 partners per female. I agree that sex is easy. Men are every where. Why not have an “Anytime, Any place, I don’t care who’s around moment” when you’re consenting and careful. It’s not about being a slut, It’s about enjoying your life. Being pleasured and giving pleasure. It’s about cuming!!! Dog-gone-it!
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Lauren Hutton is full of s**t!!! The SATC movie was amazing!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don’t like the word slut. I especially don’t like it when women use it to describe other women. Slut is just another word that people use to circumscribe the choices that women can or should make. I don’t think it’s a big jump between calling someone a slut for sleeping with a certain number of guys to saying some girl was “asking for it” when she gets raped after drinking at a frat party.
Where the heck does Lauren Hutton (or anyone else for that matter) get off judging someone else’s sexual behavior? How is this affecting her?
Consensual sex between two (or more) competent adults is not something that I feel anyone has the to judge, unless it’s affecting them (a partner has cheated on you, etc).
As for the men being sluts thing…Women are expected to want monogamy, and they’re punished pretty hard socially when they don’t. On the other hand, men are encouraged to have sex with a variety of people. Our entire culture encourages men to be sexually aggressive (as in seeking sex out, not necessarily in a criminal way) while women are encouraged to be sexy without being sexual.
Man, and my parents thought my women’s studies degree was a waste of time.
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Yes, Big (Noth) and Carrie (Parker) plan a gorgeous wedding, complete with a Vogue photo shoot. But he bails at the last minute. For the next two hours plus, the movie is a mourning story.
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Back in the ’70s, Hutton was on a Boston local morning show, “Good Day” (a prototype for the ABC’s “Good Morning America”.) When asked a question concerning the key to her career success, she replied, “I just fucked around.” Caused a minor stir back in the time, but is largely forgotten. Yup, if anybody knows sluts, it’s Lauren.
(A good account of the incident is found in: “From Rage to Reason: My Life in Two Americas” By Janet Langhart Cohen (the former host of “Good Day!”, and Alexander Kopelman)
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Author Helen, you might want to remove Ricky Review’s comment, as he deliberately tried to spoil the movie for anyone who hasn’t seen it.
Douchetastic. -
Helen, you may want to revove CB Rawks post, she used the work “douche”.
By the way, here’s how I see it, yes, Big (Noth) and Carrie (Parker) plan a gorgeous wedding, complete with a Vogue photo shoot. But he bails at the last minute and backs out. For the next two hours plus, the movie is a mourning story.
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I think Ms Hutton was expressing how false and shallow the characters in the story seem, maybe referring the the slutty values they constantly express, which the writers intend to be funny. I think she has a right to expect more of women and many women have much more to express. It could be said that our whole country has turned into a bunch of sluts, not referencing sexual frequency, but again shallow empty values that have become the norm. If you ever get outside of our Western world, that’s what people think of us. I went to a party at Ms Hutton Hollywood home once in the 70’s. She was and is so gorgious and still looks good without make-up. That picture was chosen not to be very flattering. This is how the media can make you the devil.
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Old gap tooth would know it was written by sluts, since she is one of the oldest ones out there.
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Lauren Hutton is still a gorgeous woman. It is ridiculous to read all of the comments–by other women, for crying out loud!–about her age and sex life. She has a right to her opinion.
I happen to agree with her, but even if I didn’t, I wouldn’t be attacking her age and sexuality. What is with all of the self-righteous fangirl venom?
She isn’t being offensive. The show WAS mostly written by gay men. Gay culture was (I use the past tense here) more promiscuous and hedonistic than heterosexual culture. This makes sense when looking at the societal pressures governing sexuality. Gay men had to be “hidden” and underground, hetero culture was obviously the one that was “out in the open” and “accepted”, but it was moulded by the morals and laws created by the religions in power. She is on the money with the Sex and the City chicks being another example of MEN (hetero or homo, doesn’t matter) “writing” what it means to be a woman. -
Unbelievable that anyone would try to judge anyone based on a number of sex partners! look, if you are out there being responsible and having a good time, go for it. And with the way relationships fall together and fall apart so rapidly in today’s society, I would think it would be hard for a woman to hit 30 still single and not BURY that average numbr of 9.
And, being from the midwest… don’t tell me that we are any less active than anyone else. If thats really what statistics show, then the only thing that is proven is that we must LIE more over here.
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I love SATC, but it’s definitely true that it got dumber and dumber as it progressed. Carrie started out a sarcastic, witty New York broad and ended up, years later, a squealing man-obsessed infant (”I’ve been in Paris a week and I’ve been to every museum, like, twice.” Lordy.)
I’m still hanging in for the occasional highlights, but the writers (whatever the cause of their failings) could definitely do better. I wish SJP would insist that they do better.
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It’s funny, because there really wasn’t that much sex in the movie. The only people that the audience really sees having sex are neighbors to one of the SATC characters. Most of the movie was really about the strength and love in friendships and how important that really is, even if you’re in a committed relationship.
Another “theme” to the movie was how contentment can mean different things to different people and one choice isn’t any better than another. Cultural norms says that a man and woman meet at a certain age, fall in love, get married at a certain age, buy a house, have babies, and stay together forever. But how could every single person possibly be happy with this arrangement, even if they do quickly and easily meet ‘the one’? Some people find happiness in life a different way and that doesn’t mean they are wrong to do so. Not everyone wants to get married and have babies. And that’s okay. I’m glad SATC exists. And I haven’t felt pressured to go slut it up by the show or movie, thank you very much.
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you know those old school tv shows from the 50s where the women are all totally one-dimensional (with the possible exception of lucille ball)? sex and the city is a rowdy, sex-positive version of that, written from the “gay best friend” perspective, not the “husband” one. samantha has a lot of sex, carrie angsts, charlotte prisses, and miranda is professional. makes it easy to just jump into the plot - no one ever changes. i define a slut as a person who uses sex to get something else, including attention. sometimes, yeah, those characters fit it.
elle - as a women’s studies major, you should know about the effects of the media on women. nothing is just a movie. i personally love freewheeling NSA sex, but it’s not for every womam, and i’ve had a lot of friends get hurt because that’s what they thought - because of the “empowering” message of things like SATC - that they were “supposed” to want. i actually liked the movie more than the few episodes i’d seen, because it seemed more nuanced that way.
STIs are on the rise because no one is teaching responsibility at the same time as freedom - in gay and straight subcultures. young straight women and young gay men (yup, the party scene is back with a vengeance, nevermind the pain of the 80s - who remembers that?) have skyrocketing AIDS infection rates. while i hate the “my tv made me do it” defense, is a little responsibility too much to ask?
end rant. sorry y’all - i help give the safe sex talk to freshman at college every fall; gotta gear up for a lot of ill-informed questions and stern but cheerful admonishments to use protection… for smart kids, they sure can be morons. -
I think statistics can be a bit over the top! I think we all have been a “Slut” at one point or another, or have at least had fantasies about doing something that may consider us to be Sluts!! If you are single in todays world, its really hard to find Love and make it work, because there are so many men and women that intentionally look for someone thats married, because they feel they dont have to worry about comittment! This ultimately ends in divorce… The world today isnt the same as it used to be, and it is only getting harder and harder to find, and hold onto the “Real Thing”! Thats sad to me because I have a 14 yr. old beautiful daughter, and most men that have been a part of her life have been nothing but a dissapointment, therefore as a parent, I find I’m constantly having to make excuses as to why men are the way they are, when the truth of it is… I dont really have a clue! But I do make it a point to let her know that they are not all bad, and everything happens for a reason! And I truly believe that!
I thought the movie was Funny, Emotional, and showed a side of frienship that we all can only hope to find in a freind!!
It was Great!!
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Opinions are like assholes, everyone got one. This is not about people (men and women) being sluts, it is about people enjoying their life. Also, the SATC characters always seemed responsible enough in their sex life.
However, I found it very funny when Lauren Hutton said that men are sluts, have to say that most of them are (the ones that I know anyway).
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