Life & Style: Angelina Jolie’s former drug dealer “speaks out”

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If you want my opinion, Life & Style got a half-way decent “scandalous” story about Angelina Jolie, and they ruined it with an over-the-top cover. The story is simple enough – they got an interview with Angelina’s old Manhattan dealer, back when she was snorting everything in sight, circa 1997. That’s 13 years ago, by the way. You know what I was doing in 1997? I don’t remember, because I got stoned like every day that year. Anyhoodle, Angelina used to snort cocaine and… heroin…? And her dealer made house calls (so did mine, it’s kind of awesome). And back then, Angelina decorated her apartment with photos of dead bodies… and she was even obsessed with adopting, even back then. Now, I have no idea what any of this has to do with “ZOMG The Video That Will End Brangelina Forever!!!!!”

For the first time ever, Angelina Jolie’s former drug dealer, Franklin Meyer, is speaking out exclusively to Life & Style about the actress’ past drug use. Among the shocking secrets Meyer shares only with Life & Style – on newsstands now – he reveals Angelina frequently used both heroin and cocaine in front of him.

“We’d see each other two to three times a week when she was in town. She would buy cocaine and also heroin,” Meyer tells Life & Style, who first met Angelina in February 1997, when she and a male friend came to buy drugs from him at NYC’s Chelsea Hotel. She was just 21, and soon became a regular. “She would generally spend about $100 each time — that would buy maybe half a gram of coke and a 10th of a gram of heroin. She would snort the cocaine and the heroin in front of me. It didn’t seem to matter to her who else was there.”

Occasionally, he says, he would even go to her apartment in the Ansonia building on Manhattan’s Upper West Side, and she would do drugs there. When he first saw her place, he got a shock: The walls of her apartment were covered with photos of dead bodies! “I assumed they were real bodies. They were like places or apartments where there were murders. I don’t know where someone would get pictures like that.”

But Meyer says the most bizarre thing about Angelina was that she was obsessed, even then, with adopting a child. “She would say to me, ‘I think I would really like to adopt a kid.’ I was shocked…. In the middle of the drugs and the knives, she’d be talking about wanting to adopt a child,” Franklin tells Life & Style.

[From Life & Style]

I mean… is this scandalous? Eh. I can only imagine what my old dealer would say about me. That is, if he remembers me. He was pretty high too. He was like an Asian version of James Franco’s character in Pineapple Express. Plus, it was 13 YEARS ago, and Angelina has talked about her former drug usage plenty of times, and she’s also talked about her obsession with death and how she always knew she wanted to adopt. Eh.

In additional Jolie news, James Cameron is talking about her! Cameron is likely going to executive produce and maybe even direct that new Cleopatra movie, the author claims she wrote with Angelina in mind. Apparently, it’s going to be 3D? Cameron tells the NYT: “There’s a Cleopatra project in works, meaning that it’s been in development at Sony. And it’s a subject that’s always fascinated me… But it sounds hot, doesn’t it? I mean, Angelina Jolie and Cleopatra? To me, that’s like a slam dunk. Whether I wind up doing it or not, I think it’s going to be a great project.” Of course, nothing has been written or signed or anything, so God knows what will happen. If Jolie does end up doing it, though, it will be very interesting to see who plays Caesar and who plays Marc Antony. Is it wrong that I’m hoping Clive Owen’s name is in the mix? Sweet Jesus.

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  1. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Ugh When the Huffington Post Tweeted this about 30 mins ago I cringed. I don’t know why but I did. I am not quite sure what Life & Style hopes to accomplish. Their little exposes are quite tired and frankly Angelina hasn’t hidden her past, we know she did drugs. I don’t believe they actually spoke with her dealer and I certainly don’t think she said any of the adopting kids stuff because why would you tell a drug dealer that? Life and Style sucks so bad.

  2. mln says:

    I think everyone knows that Angie was doing alot of drugs back in the 90s. I bet she has told Brad crazier stories that will never make it to the tabs. The tabs should have a morotorium on Brangelina stories if something real or current ever happens no one will believe it.

  3. serena says:

    I think in this 24hr society every drug dealer should offer a door to door service, how selfish they are!

  4. Eleonor says:

    Angelina has always admitted everything about her dark period (drugs, cutting herself only to say something), so where’s the scandal? I also find normal that even in her darkest period she had dreamed about family and children. Everyone has dreams.
    This man only wants attention.

  5. Marjalane says:

    I just noticed something even more shocking about O.K. magazine! They charge 2.99 for this crap?! It’s hard to believe anyone would actually pay for it! The only thing that’s “maybe” relevant about the article is the heroin bit- that’s a rugged drug to quit and that’s always the gossip about her, that she’s still using.

  6. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    I hope Angie does the Cleopatra movie with Cameron, how freaking epic would that be?!?!?!? Pretty epic is the answer. Uhhh I don’t think Angie and Clive had that much chemistry when they did Beyond Borders, which at the time I thought they did because I liked him back then but he is not who I thought he was, he made his alliances pretty clear, we don’t need Clive for Cleopatra. Maybe Brad can do it or Joesph Finnes.

  7. olivia says:

    Can you imagine those giant fish lips and huge horse teeth in 3D?

  8. Raven Sparrow says:

    Actually according to the Andrew Morton book , the reason why she had pictures of dead bodies and crime scenes at that time was because she was filming The Bone Collector.

    And I can totally see her talking about adopting with her drug dealer since it has always been something she wanted to do and she spent alot of time in his drug den talking and talking. And when you’re high you talk even more, so really nothing strange here.

    PS you should try reading Andrew’s book on Angie. I love this woman and the book is really good and well written. It’s not trying to be all shocking or anything. A good read.

  9. Kitten says:

    Um seriously? We’re supposed to believe that in between her snorting H and cocaine that she was imagining adopting children? I definitely believe she did a lot of drugs but this story sounds like BS.

  10. mln says:

    @ Raven Sparrow I read some of the Morton book and I thought that it was interesting until it came up to her becoming famous. He had absolutely no new info also all the B.S. about her having some fascination for her whole with Johnny Depp was obviously a ploy to build up to the rumours that never happened. I never finished it and I think there won’t be a good bio of her for another 10 to 20 years. And not to be niave but I highly doubt she has slept with every man she’s ever been in the same room with.

  11. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Raven that book Andrew wrote is a work of FICTION my dear, Andrew doesn’t know crap about Angelina and what he does know we all know and he just wrote it in the book and typed it up. I wouldn’t take anything he wrote seriously and I certainly wouldn’t waste money on a book like that.

  12. Brittney says:

    Everyone here already said what I’m thinking: how is this news at all? One of the reasons I became an Angelina fan over a decade ago was how unashamedly open she always was about her life and her past. No matter how honest she is, the media will continue to attempt to spin it into some “exclusive” or proof that she’s a bad mother. (Even the “vials of blood” were a media construction; she and her husband put tiny droplets of one another’s blood into flower-presses.) Back then, it was “look how edgy she’s trying to be.”

    She has stated on numerous occasions that the dark and restless energy that once led to self-destruction has now been channeled toward better places… her children and her work with refugees. Yet magazine covers continue to dwell on the old and refuse to cover or even believe in her new path: the real inspirational story. She can’t win.

  13. LindaR says:

    I hope this “drug dealer” was being interviewed from a jail cell.

  14. Praise St. Angie! says:

    yeah, this is not news. no ESCANDALO here.

    that old picture of her is so sad and scary. compare that with how she looks now. as Marjalane said, heroin is a BITCH to quit – why not focus on how she’s changed her life?

    I know, it doesn’t sell.

  15. Raven Sparrow says:

    @mln The book does not have her sleeping with all the men btw, there really is nothing shocking in there. As for her fascination with Johnny Depp I see nothing of it, at that time Johnny was a wild thing and very much the way Angie was. He was famous way before her. I think her fascination was normal. Heck , I’m about her age and I’ve always loved Depp. She never did anything of it and never tried to get in touch with him according to the book, it was just a one-sided crush, so again really no drama here.

    I really love this woman, love what she was and how she’s become. I love her bad ass attitude and think she is really beautiful. (I don’t love all her movies though). But Angie was a wild thing that started from childhood and although you can become a better person, you can not wipe the slate clean completely…I do believe she still has a wild streak in her but only now she is hiding it better than before.

  16. Riley says:

    Oh gosh. I hope this isn’t true because I don’t think I can take another movie in 3D. I mean, Avatar was good and all but I felt the 3D was a little overrated. Now everything is overrated. I want to take my niece to see Tangled but I am not sure her little 4 year old self will be able to adapt to the 3D.

  17. SallyJay says:

    @Linda R – well said!

    @Love Angelina – I always enjoy your posts!

    What do you mean, Clive and “his alliances” – please elaborate! that’s my future husband you’re talking about there! :-)

  18. Raven Sparrow says:

    @Love Angelina,

    Why is it fiction? How do you know it is fiction? What proof do you have to say that things did not happen that way? Just because you really love this woman does not mean she had the perfect childhood with perfect parents and a perfect career. If she said she was into cutting and taking drugs and doing “weird” stuff then clearly she was not a happy person at that time. And we all know her family drama.

    So I think the book does take what we know but puts it all together in order. You actually feel that yes, that is Angelina. So if you think it’s crap, that’s your opinion. As a fan of Angie, I think it’s a good book.

  19. truthSF says:

    Didn’t Angelina admit to the host of Inside The Actor’s Studio that she has tried every single drugs?

    Yet the tabloids only mentions cocaine and heroin. Are these 2 drugs suppose to be the most shocking or is it clear that they (tabloids) have absolutely no evidence of any of her drug use besides those 2 that she admitted (more then 3 times) to using by name?!

    p.s. @Kaiser:

    Yum yum, Clive is hot sex on a platter!

    If Clive is signing on for Cleopatra, he better play the Marc Anthony’s role, so we could see them get down. I was totally cheated out of seeing a good sex scene between these 2 watching Beyond Borders.

  20. a says:

    anyhoodle!

    exactly, some people have long term drug problems and some people just have a drug phase. not many people (drugs or not) go on to be a UN goodwill ambassador, successful actress, while managing to hold together a family and career…

  21. frank franken says:

    they’re really digging deep in the trash for this one. she’s still one of my faves.

  22. dread pirate cuervo says:

    For anyone who doesn’t know…that’s not alot of drugs. At all. For even a recreational user. I think the scandal is that she wan’t buying suitcases full of blow, Scarface-style.

  23. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Raven honey Andrew Morton didn’t grow up with Angelina Jolie, he doesn’t know anymore about her than me and I am sure he knows just as much I do and I feel I know alot about Angelina but certainly not enough to write a biography about someones life. Neither does that idiot. Andrew made up a great deal of stuff in his book, he has probably never even met Angelina. Andrew certainly never conducted any interview with her, he doesn’t know sh*t beyond what a true fan would know and then he just put a bunch of filler in the book. Filler I might add was FALSE and if you don’t know something don’t make sh*t up to increase sells of a sh*tty book. Which is what he did.

    @SallyJay In terms of Clive and his alliances, he made a film with a certain someone and he was more than passionate and quite giving with praise beyond what I felt was just being nice to co star. Almost like he preferred this person personally, like he is a good friend with said person and I feel, that if thats how he feels then he can’t be trusted. Which is insane, I know but from those interviews I saw when said movie was released and then later when he conducted other interviews, and was asked certain questions, I felt ok I know what team you play for Clive and its the wrong team.

  24. Kaiser says:

    I normally don’t get involved, but Love Angelina, WTF are you talking about? Clive and Angelina have been friends for years, and he’s given many interviews about how highly he thinks of her. Just because he did a film with Aniston and promoted the thing, doesn’t make him ZOMG TEAM ANISTON. He’s a professional, and he behaves as such.

  25. mln says:

    @Raven Sparrow it was obviously twisted to make things more sensational I think most of the information came from people who dislike her , or were desperate for money like for instance drug dealers. As for the Johnny Depp thing it was completely contrived with the expectation that there would be rumors of an affair that didn’t materialize. I think its rather telling that Morton refused to publish his story in the UK his home country because he knew he would be subject to libel laws.

  26. Cheyenne says:

    I wondered what crap story the tabs would dredge up after Angie got her permit to film her movie in Bosnia. They probably had to scrap all their planned covers this week about Angie forced to cancel her movie, her career destroyed, Brad leaving her in the lurch, etc. The editors must have shat themselves when the film got the green light after all. So now they are rooting through the archives for any bullshit story they haven’t already printed. Who are they going to get an exclusive from next, the newspaper kid?

  27. Oh Boy says:

    Love Angelina,just because Clive Owens was pleasant about Jen while promoting a movie…doesn’t make him bad.Watch his bio on A&E (maybe you can find it on you tube) Clive spoke VERY highly of Angelina and her intelligence.He pointed out how she was very educated on the movie subject and even corrected errors made in the script (concerning Africa)

    Raven sparrow,you have LOW standards when it comes to books.

  28. Kitten says:

    LMAO! Oh my god..now Clive is part of the *whispers* Triangle Conspiracy? Why do I have a feeling that he has better things to do than proclaim he is “Team Aniston” or “Team Jolie”. Holy crap, these posts descend from Normal to Batshit Crazy at an alarming speed. WOW….

  29. Johnny Depp's Girl says:

    Whatever…. she’s already fessed up to all this so…… where’s the story?

    Anywho, I would watch Clive and Angie together…. cool movie…

  30. roguesiren says:

    And how is this relevant in 2010? She has admitted all of this, this is not news. Who in Hollywood hasn’t experimented with drugs? Instead of focusing so much in what this woman did years ago, they should focus on how she overcame her addictions and is doing positive things with her fame and money. You never see her shopping on Rodeo Drive at Fred Seagal’s or front row during fashion week. She much rather give millions to people in need. She might do it for her owns reasons,but bottom line, I don’t see other Hollywood celebrities doing the kind of work she does.

  31. Oh Boy says:

    And reguarding Life and Style digging up this drug dealer and rehashing Angelina’s past,pathetic!Angelina has been nothing but fourth coming and honest about her past drug use.

  32. DD says:

    LOL @ Love Angelina. I like reading your posts but come on the whole TEAM thing, you just took that to a whole new level.

  33. Praise St. Angie! says:

    regarding the bio…has anyone from the Jolie-Pitt camp said ANYTHING about it?

    I remember hearing a lot of negativity when it first came out about how so much of it is BS, and I would think that a celeb could and would sue if a book of lies was printed about them.

    Has there been no lawsuit or comment because it IS accurate, or because Jolie doesn’t want to bother giving his book more press?

    I’m honestly asking here because I’m confused as to how someone could get away with a “bio” if a lot of it is not true.

    EDIT: “I felt ok I know what team you play for Clive and its the wrong team.”

    JESUS PLEASE US…LET IT GO!!!

  34. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Well Kaiser thats not the vibe I got from it. I don’t really remember the interview he gave but I was pretty sprung on Clive like everyone else (I saw Derailed, PAID to see it, I loved me some Clive Owen) so whatever he said had to go beyond just promoting a movie because it stuck with me all these years and enough for me to be able to imagine him at BBQ at Aniston’s house and talking sh*t with Aniston about Angie. Sorry. I will look for his statements from around that time but I am not just saying this.

  35. Raven Sparrow says:

    @mln:
    You know what, for me there was absolutley nothing “sensational” in the book. And who said he spent time talking to people who hate her ? Morton spent a lot of time with Angie’s step-dad (of 11 years) I highly doubt the guy hates her, so if what Morton has written claiming it was her step-dad’s words were BS, why hasn’t he sued yet? And btw, there was nothing wrong with what he said at all. Also a lot of stuff have been written about the book before it even hit the stands claiming it would talk about this and that, just like the story that she slept with her mother’s boyfriend when she was 16….there is nothing of the sort in the book. This book is far from scandalous.

    @Love Angelina,

    If you haven’t read the book then don’t claim it’s fiction like you’re so sure. Are you part of Angie’s family? Do you know her? Is she your friend? Did you steal her “dear diary”?
    It’s people like you who make her out to be this super saint of a woman when she herself has never claimed anything of the like. Not long ago she was saying she was still this wild tattooed girl at heart. It’s fans like you that make people come to hate her and say Angie’s a hypocrite because you guys try to make her out to be this perfect saint. I like her and yet often I hide that fact because i just don’t want to be branded a Brange Fanatic like you and others.

    I can love Angelina and still appreciate other actresses for instance Aniston …OH MYGOD!!! WTF??? I like Aniston???? That must make me a hater undercover!!!! I’m actually a jen hen and I read Morton’s damn book!!! Burn me!!! I’m a wicked lying cheating hater!!

    Please grow up.

  36. Mel says:

    Wow… interesting thread. I can hear the twilight zone music in the distance.

    If I was a member of the Brang club I would be handing in my membership and running for the exit.

  37. Roxanne75 says:

    Not sure what the point of a magazine writing crap like this. How cruel, I mean what’s the point. What is the goal of the magazine? To make her feel horrible? What has come of this world anyway…awful.

  38. mslewis says:

    Isn’t that “film” the same thing that we have seen several times? Angelina in a drug den with several people who are doing drugs/smoking pot, etc. Angelina isn’t actually seen doing drugs but she appears to be quite high. If it’s that old thing then, where’s the scandal?

    @Kaiser . . . I totally agree. Clive is a gentlemen and all around nice guy. He has said good things about a lot of actors/actresses. Doesn’t make him team anybody.

  39. Kitten says:

    Um, Clive Owen talking shit about Jolie? Please tell me you’re kidding. First of all, as someone who has a lot of guy friends, none of the guys I know *gossip* about chicks (at least not the straight ones). They’re too busy talking about fantasy football and beer. Clive is a fantastic actor, LoveAng, he works hard and is the consummate professional. He’s not drinking margaritas with Jen Aniston, gossiping about Angelina and Brad over a burger and chips. The guy is busy working on his next film and I assure you, he has more pressing matters than trivial gossip.
    Gah! My mind is about to explode from the CRAZY. I need to walk away….

  40. rraven says:

    I too have watched Inside the Actor’s studio with her and apparently she had a lot of pornographic pictures in her trailer for another movie, I think taking lives for inspiration, seems thats “method acting”.
    The drugs stuff? Meh. Never done them myself, don’t even smoke, but the fact that all these secrets about her, and misdeeds and such are so well documented and she is so unfazed by that fact makes her very endearing to me, even though I don’t know her.

  41. Oh Boy says:

    Praise St Angie,you might want to check out the libel laws in the US.It’s VERY hard to sue…notice Oprah didn’t sue Kitty Kelly.Funny, you didn’t notice that Andrew Morton DID NOT release his book in UK.Want to know why?His ass could have easily been sued.Haters just want to hate,damn the truth.

  42. Stronzilla says:

    Half a gram of coke and a tenth of a gram of heroin for $100 and a dealer who made house calls? She probably wanted to adopt her dealer. And just to throw it out to those of us with certain sexual proCLIVEities, doesn’t anyone remember who else that lucky bitch Aniston co-starred with in the same film as with Clive? Vincent Cassel! Mother of God, talk about spoiled for choice. Clive, Vincent, Clive, Vincent. If it had been me they would have had to have the jaws-of-death standing by to rescue either one of them if they got within striking distance!!! As for the rest, a tall glass of STFU for the fanatics at table 1.

  43. Taurus says:

    Angelina used coke and heroin, big surprise!
    Anywho Angelina is the last person that needs to play Cleopatra. Cleopatra was not white!!! A black actress needs to play Cleopatra for a change.

    MJ FOR HGF!

  44. She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named says:

    @rraven, yeah, that’s one of the reasons I respect AJ too, she just tells the truth straight up about her past, no matter how embarrassing. And she just kind of shrugs and says, that’s where I was then, it doesn’t define me.

    Also, I agree about the method acting. I always thought she got into drugs preparing for her Gia role and then just kind of rode it out. Not sure of the timing though… I thought she was great in Gia.

  45. Cheyenne says:

    @Praise: So far as I know, nobody from the J-P family has said anything one way or the other about Morton’s book. This could be due to any one or more of three reasons: 1) none of them read it; 2) none of them want to give it any more publicity than it’s already received, and 3) the book actually wasn’t all that negative.

    The problem I had with the book is that Morton wrote what he calls a “bio” with no footnotes, no index, and no credits for any of his “sources”. That’s not a bio, that’s fiction writing. He could just as well have made the whole thing up.

  46. Praise St. Angie! says:

    “so whatever he said had to go beyond just promoting a movie because it stuck with me all these years”

    so, he must be Team Aniston because you remembered something he said? and probably read too much into?

    “and enough for me to be able to imagine him at BBQ at Aniston’s house and talking sh*t with Aniston about Angie.”

    LA, I find your posts to be mostly benign and positive about Jolie…but THIS? You actually imagine him at a party with Aniston, dissing on Jolie?

    wow. just…wow.

    “Funny, you didn’t notice that Andrew Morton DID NOT release his book in UK.”

    maybe because I don’t care about reading his book? and I’m not obsessed with it like so many of the fans were before it came out. I was curious because I’m reading this back and forth on here, and I don’t know anything about the book. take a chill pill.

  47. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Excuse me Raven your self hate at being an Angelina fan has nothing to do me. I embrace all fellow Angie fans and if they think I am embarrassing them I could care less. I am a dedicated fan of Angelina’s and I have done nothing but EMBRACE who she is, I love her flaws, and I have never claimed her to be perfect, although even in the face of drug use I still find her empowering and badass, I loved her crazy ass spirit when she was young and I love her humanitarian, nurturing side now. Angelina is a rare woman who lived a life of adventure and exploration and she continues to do so. I don’t know where you got this “I don’t like her darker days” from but you are certainly wrong. I LOVE everything about Angelina. Hello sweetie look at my username, I am LOVE ANGELINA for a reason.

    I didn’t read that stupid book because it was FICTION and Angelina herself never endorsed it the way Princess Di did hers, Princess Di worked with a biographer, alot of important people do. When the biography that Angelina endorses and also works on with the person writing it, thats the one I will believe. Sorry but I think Andrew Morton is full of sh*t and he hasn’t had ounce of proof to back up alot of his unproven claims.

    As far as Clive goes, he said SOMETHING, I don’t remember what it was but he made a statement that has sat funny with me for years. It has nothing to do with the fact he was nice to Aniston, but he said something. This was a really long time ago. Now mind you Derailed came out awhile ago and heck I hadn’t even graduated HS then, so I really don’t remember what EXACTLY he said but whatever it was I didn’t like it.

  48. Tia C says:

    @ Mel: LOL @ the twilight zone music.

    This “story” is a great big ol’ so what. I don’t understand why the tabs are always desperately trying to publish “scandalous” stories about Angelina. She’s really pretty boring.

  49. roguesiren says:

    @44: Cleopatra was not black. She didn’t have one drop of Egyptian blood. Her family (Ptolemaic dinasty) was Greek (descendants from Alexander the Great), which she spoke fluently, and is credited with being the first queen who spoke Egyptian. This is well documented in history books.

  50. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Stronzilla: ROTFL!!!

    @Love Angelina: You have decided that Clive is ‘Team Aniston’ because he said ‘something’ nice about her years ago that didn’t set right with you? And yet you claim you do not hate the woman? Confess – you think she is the devil. Why else would this bother you so much? Because you surely KNOW that Angelina is a very strong woman who does not need YOUR personal protection from anyone, much less Brad Pit’s ex-wife.

  51. Novaraen says:

    Oh dear….so shocking! *eyeroll* We already knew she did drugs back in the day…so how is this all news? lol…man the gossip rags are hurting for news, aren’t they?

    Oh, and while I love the idea of another huge high-budget Cleopatra movie…I don’t really picture Angie as her. I dunno…just can’t see it. She’s too tall and gangly I think.

  52. lucy2 says:

    Crazy Level: Elevated.

    I agree with most, if she hadn’t already talked about all this, it’d be scandalous, but since she has, it’s like who cares? Old news. Not a fan of hers, but I don’t like the tabloids trying to insinuate she’s a bad mom, that’s crossing the line, IMO.

  53. Cheyenne says:

    @roguesiren: If you’re going to quote history, at least try to be accurate about it.

    The Ptolemys had a questionable blood relationship to Alexander the Great. Ptolemy I may or may not have been Philip of Macedon’s bastard son. And Philip wasn’t Greek, he was Macedonian, a fact that Greeks of the time made much of, for derogatory purposes. (Macedonians were considered to be uneducated hicks by Greeks back then.)

    And the fact that something is “well documented” in history books doesn’t verify its accuracy. I don’t know if Cleopatra was black, white, or had mixed blood, and I don’t think anyone else knows either, including the historians.

  54. Kim says:

    This isn’t news find Reese W or Nicole K. drug dealers and that will be news. Of course I’m joking to my knowledge neither have used drugs.

  55. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    @Crash: I don’t hate Aniston but I don’t like her and I don’t like the games she plays and if I see someone buying into her games I don’t really like them either. I guess I am biased in that regard and it wasn’t that Clive was being nice to her that bothered me he said something and I am looking for what was said but I haven’t found it. I am just trying to be honest why I don’t like him anymore, he clearly sounded to Team Aniston to me so thats why I don’t like him. *shrugs* Thats all I remember.

  56. roguesiren says:

    @Cheyenne: Whether or not Macedonians were considered hicks, I stand by my statement, as this is indeed well documented in history books. I guess, according to you, historians and Egyptian scholars are wrong. If you are going to argue history then I’m guessing you have facts to back your claims, or are you trying to rewrite history for argument’s sake? Just arguing for the sake of arguing seems to be prevalent in your posts on this site.

  57. LindaR says:

    Love Angelina, you do realize that the word fan is short for fanatic. You take it to a whole new level. Really weird obsession with someone you don’t know and have never met. Every time there is a story about her I read the comments just to see what you have said. You do know that psychologists have done studies on people like you, right? I’m not hating on you at all, I just don’t get it. You are full of opinions that are based on assumptions, presumptions and what you want to see and believe. It’s a fantasy. Can you explain this?

  58. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    @LindaR Yea I know the word Fan is short for fanatic and I can be fanatic at times. I don’t go behind the realm of a fan however. I am not obsessed with anyone. I am pretty sure I act with in the confines of someone who is a fan. Uhh I try to base most of what I say on fact or what I feel and what I believe could be a possibility in a situation. Most people here do the same if they aren’t flat out lying or making things up. I don’t know what kinda study could be done on people like me.

  59. ReallyRosie says:

    Love Angelina, you say

    “I am a dedicated fan of Angelina’s and I have done nothing but EMBRACE who she is, I love her flaws, ”

    First of all, you are BEYOND dedicated. You are hypocritical. You slam anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours. If anyone says anything against your Goddess, you say … “They don’t know her.” Well, neither do you. If you really do know her, well then you just gave me another reason to dislike her. And how in the world can you embrace her flaws if you don’t even acknowledge any of them? Any time a flaw is mentioned you come out with your claws sharpened and hiss at everyone that they don’t know her. I am afraid to ask how old you are because if it is any older than 13 I may lose all hope for human-kind. Whoever said that you being her fan does more harm to Angie’s reputation than good was SPOT ON. You frighten me. And YOU make me like her less.

  60. Cheyenne says:

    @rogue: No, indeed, I am not trying “re-write” history, but you need to take into consideration that some of the ancient historians were notorious for fudging the facts. Check out Herodotus some time. And since modern historians used ancient historians as their sources, well, you can take it from there.

    And when all is said and done, does it really matter what color Cleopatra was?

  61. Bailey says:

    so stupid. what can’t people put the past behind them

  62. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    @Reallyrosie I disagree with you. Yea there will be times when I disagree with opinions and voice that strongly. I don’t attack anyone if they mention an ACTUAL flaw, making fun of someone or saying things that are false bring out a reaction.

    I just wanna let you that stating that I have actual influence over who you like and dislike is sign of weakness for you. I like who I like and I dislike who I dislike, nobody dictates what I feel and who I like or don’t like but me. I am sorry you can’t be as strong.

    22

  63. teri says:

    Raven Sparrow, I’ve done a past search on this site alone with your name and how many times you’ve been plugging away at you saying buy Andrew Mortons book. What gives? After 9 counts I gave up, just curious as to why your so bent on selling this book. After visiting HP site I seen the same thing and it just clicked that you do the same here, really an innocent question.

  64. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Love Angelina: You say you don’t hate her, but I’ve seen you refer to her more than once as ‘that bitch’.

    I have developed a strange fondness for you and your fanatical ways, but don’t care for your evisceration of any who dare post negative comments about Angelina. That coupled with your hatred of Aniston make it clear that you are ‘over the top’ when it comes to AJ.

    Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery. *s*

  65. ReallyRosie says:

    It is truly amazing how much influence stupidity can have. I do not consider it a weakness to flee from it.

  66. Raven Sparrow says:

    @Cheyenne

    I have Morton’s book and there is a whole chapter “Acknowledgments and source notes” where he states his sources by name among which you have Bill Day (her mom’s partner for 11 years when she was growing up) names of friends of Jon and Marcheline of 35 years, and directors who worked with Jolie as well,(and many more) all who spoke directly to Morton and which he clearly names in his sources….so really, maybe all these people are just liars or Morton is really not scared of angering all these people.

    @teri,

    I really don’t know what your talking about. When did I say “you should buy this book” ??? I said that I had read it and wanted to know what others who have thought of it. Go back to what I wrote.

    A lot has been said about this book and how scandalous it would be and since I actually like Jolie and had read his book on Lady Di, I decided to see what it was all about. And it is nothing like people claim it is without even reading it. I’d just like to find someone who is not so “fanatic” about this whole mess I can actually talk with and discuss this book with me. That is all. People are free to read what they want and believe what they want.

  67. teri says:

    Love Angelina, stay true to yourself. You seem like a really nice person and bring alot of good discussion to this board. Angelina has millions of great fans around the world.

  68. teri says:

    I see a few hate baiters here on a dialy basis when it comes to Angelina threads. Just overlook them and move on, they’ll return to the sewers aka FF.

  69. lu says:

    I really hope she doesn’t play Cleopatra.
    I hate James Cameron, and why does a Cleopatra movie need to be in 3D.

    The drug thing is old news, they are doing this cause they have nothing recent on her and I doubt they will anytime soon. The whole kids thing is probably a lie as well. It is to keep their magazine alive.

  70. AWHODAT says:

    @LOVE ANGELINA…go on with your baad self! Love u! Youre a great fan of Angie and if you notice, the biitches who are ragging on you are either luke-warmm, so-called fans (most likely they are some susie-come-latelys now that they see that the JPs are her to stay) or they are haterz who have no passion for the biitch on whose behalf they feel so “wronged”. L.M.F.A.O.

    So you keep doing it your way, LoveAngelina. Youre a kickass fan.

  71. teri says:

    Raven I’m sorry your getting so defensive, it really was an innocent question. I’ve just noticed here along with other sites you quite often mention Mortons book, oh it’s great you should read it, well if you haven’t read the book you should do so. As a fan of Angelina myself it’s not something I looked forward to or will ever do. I really just wanted to know why your so bent on others reading this.

  72. Boromir's bytch says:

    I’ve read the stories about how she did heroin but I’ve never read the story about how she got off of it. She’s off, right?

  73. teri says:

    As a fan of Angelina I read Notes of My Travels and that’s an excellent book, written by ANGELINA JOLIE, all proceeds go to charity.

  74. Raven Sparrow says:

    @Teri,

    I never write on other sites, this is the only one. So maybe you have me mixed up with someone else or maybe there’s another user with the same name but I only write on Celebitchy.

    And I think you miss understood what I was saying. If you don’t want to read it, then don’t , I really don’t care and respect your choice. I read it and wanted someone’s opinion about it , some one who actually did read it too. But people who call it off as bullshit without knowing what’s in it and calling my reading of low standards (not you), why do that? I read alot of different books of different authors and genres and just so happen to have read this one and didn’t think it was this huge piece of trash that people who haven’t read it are making it out to be. That’s all. But it’s quite impossible to have a normal discussion whenever it touches Jolie or Aniston.

  75. Cheyenne says:

    @Raven: If you call what Morton did “research”, then you need to research the term. A kid in junior high school could have done a better job documenting a report than Morton did in documenting that book.

    Mind you, I’m not accusing Morton of slamming Angie in the book. AAMOF, he was generally positive toward her. But that book was almost a textbook example of how not to write a bio.

    @teri: I read “Notes From My Travels” and it was quite good.

  76. WTF says:

    Boromir’s bytch…Angelina has to under go drug tests on the regular for her work as a Goodwill Ambassador for the UNHCR.Which she has been with since 2001.It amazes me how haters want Angelina to still be using drugs.

  77. Kitten says:

    Crazy Level: SEVERE

    **sirens wailing**

  78. WTF says:

    Raven Sparrow….Andrew Morton’s source and notes were absolutely pathetic.I have read books were the author had 35-40 pages of notes and sources accounting for EVERYTHING written in their book.I did look at the book and found the sources/notes to flimsy and questionable.No way you can endorse this crappy book and call yourself a Angelina fan…I’m sorry.

  79. Crash2GO2 says:

    *Donning HAZMAT gear*

    Cheyenne, what in particular was wrong with his research?

    Raven Sparrow, I have been interested in reading the book, but have waffled on actually buying it as I do on many books, since my finances are tight. I would think that Love Angelina would jump at the chance to read what people who actually *knew* AJ as she was growing up and evolving have to say about her, just as I would about anyone I was interested in learning about.

  80. cara says:

    There is no way that she has to undergo a drug test for the UN. (maybe the small people, but not the bigwigs and certainly not a celeb) Plus, there are only a handful of drugs which are deemed “illegal”, most drugs are legal and in pill bottles.

    ****and wow! did that comment about her and ANS, birthing outside of the country get deleted!!!! As well as my response of the point that many preg US women are on adderal and methadone. I don’t see either, but do see a nice segway into AJ’s book. Interesting. Nice to see who runs the blogs……as it’s certainly not a voice of the people. Just the one’s who want to be shapers.

    one love

  81. Raven Sparrow says:

    @Crash,

    Thank you for understanding what I mean. I could hug you just now! :)

    *tchin -tchin*

  82. Crash2GO2 says:

    “****and wow! did that comment about her and ANS, birthing outside of the country get deleted!!!! As well as my response of the point that many preg US women are on adderal and methadone.”

    carla, you posted that in the other damn Angelina thread – it wasn’t deleted.

    Damn, I think we just went to DEFCON 1 in here.

  83. horizonte says:

    i read an old interview of hers where she said that she’d been getting into her character for “the bone collector” by forcing herself to get used to gruesome murder scene photographs. i think it was in the souliejolie site. and there’s a video of her smoking in a drug den, that’s been going around for ages. geez, how is this news?

  84. Strawberry says:

    Haha @Kitten – you’re awesome. Just back away from the sharp, pointy objects now everyone. Easy.

  85. Sakyiwaa says:

    L&S, wanna play a game of ‘how low can you go?’

  86. Sakyiwaa says:

    btw, i love the pics of Angie smiling in the blue dress. go Angie! keep on living your life with Brad! no wonder they’re always so happy in Europe, no trashy tabs in Budapest, Hungary, i think.

  87. anon says:

    Love Angelina is a true fan. Real fans (think MJ) fly from Japan to be at court hearings, go to red carpets, go to airports, well they did before, no one can go to the airport now :-) and in Elvis’s case even go to his home after his death and make him tons of money. Elvis fans now even have a church and of course the millions of Elvis impersonators, they take flowers to the graves, name their children after them and the list goes, so I don’t find her so different than many fans of different celebs past and present. However, she is a fan and that is what fans do support the people they are fans of.

  88. Janine says:

    No anon, those are creepy sad losers with no lives, and they’ll probably end up with a restraining order or in a padded cell. Real fans watch the movies, listen to the music, buy the books, etc.

    Stalkers/impressionable teenagers/lunatics follow them home, wait for them at the airport, go through their trash, buy used kleenex on ebay, and go completely mental if others aren’t as enamored and dare to disagree.

    By the way, how exactly is Elvis making tons of money off his fans? Hate to break it to you, but he’s kind of dead.

  89. anon says:

    @Janine: from forbes web site
    “dead CELEBS The money might be drying up in Hollywood, but there’s still plenty of cash being made in the graveyard. The 13 iconic figures on Forbes’ list of the Top-Earning Dead Celebrities grossed a collective $886 million in the past 12 months.

    Topping the list for the first time is Yves Saint Laurent, who earned $350 million to beat out Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley and Andy Warhol” Elvis was #1 for many, many years. I won’t judge whether these fans are losers with no life as long since its not me, but to each his own :-) Edited to add Elvis has been dead for 33 years you would think most of fans would be dead, so there must be new ones :-)

  90. Amy says:

    Team Aniston people are at it again. Yea Jolie is more beautiful. Get over it! Yes she did drugs years ago, so what? she’s worthy now. Go Angelina!

  91. jc126 says:

    Yawn. She’s past that crap now. Good for her for not continuing to use heroin – how many people go from that drug to a thriving career and humanitarian missions? I like to see people succeed.

  92. Stronzilla says:

    AND LET THE GAMES BEGIN…

    Derailed – Clive Owen. Interview by Rob Carnevale.
    Q. What was it like working with Jennifer Aniston?
    A. It was great. People who can do what Jennifer does that well, that light comedy thing, are inevitably underestimated. It’s the hardest thing to do, it’s much easier to do the serious stuff. People like her, who make that light thing look so easy, are seriously talented. This is a different part for her but there was never any doubt that she’s a really great actress who was going to do it. She’s been under a very serious, severe spotlight in the last year but she’s incredibly uncomplicated, grounded, lovely and easy considering all of that. I think most of us would go a bit weird trying to deal with what she’s had to deal with. But she couldn’t have been easier and nicer.

  93. Eve says:

    Well…I hope they choose Benicio Del Toro for playing Mark Antony. I believe the sexual chemistry between them would be unprecedented.

  94. cprincess says:

    “23.dread pirate cuervo:
    October 20th, 2010 at 9:48 am For anyone who doesn’t know…that’s not alot of drugs. At all. For even a recreational user. I think the scandal is that she wan’t buying suitcases full of blow, Scarface-style.”

    My thoughts exactly-what a lightweight!
    Anyway-theres no story-everyone knows she used drugs back then….

  95. Crash2GO2 says:

    @Strongzilla: You really should not confuse Love Angelina with the facts. :)

  96. Anti-icon says:

    I cannot understand why people who Love Princess Diana (who collaborated with Morton on his biography of her) are the SAME people who say Morton could not even get a meeting with Saint Angelina. Hello, I’m sure she commissioned her own biographer, Andrew Morton. How is this an insult to her, to Morton? Or even to the public?

  97. WTF says:

    Anti-icon,Angelina NEVER met with or commissioned Andrew Morton.The hack himself even admitted this during his media tour to sell this crappy book.Angelina would NOT give him the time of day.If and when Angelina decides to do a biography,she can do a hell of a lot better that Andrew “hack” Morton.

  98. Anti-icon says:

    #98: WTF: Duh, that is EXACTLY how the contract would be written, would it not? (Total and complete unacknowledgement of collaboration of this piece of original source material on me, Angelina Joelie. Do you not understand that Princess Diana would NOT allow her affiliation with Morton to be known until AFTER her death. Many people who knew about (and had evidence to) this collaberation were then free to come forward with it. Again….duh.

  99. Oh Boy says:

    Anti Icon….you last post made no sense what-so-ever.There was no collaboration between Morton and Jolie.If it makes you sleep better to believe so,then knock yourself out.

  100. Shirylgirl67 says:

    Hey Life and Style, I have this big new scoop for you! You might want to keep this under you hat for fear all the other news outlet might snatch this from under you. Here it is….Keith Richards admits he experimented with drugs.
    Lindsay Lohan is addicted to drugs. And Judy Garland was a know drug user.
    Wow, you better hurry up and get this to press!

  101. Anti-icon says:

    #100 Oh Boy: Never heard of HIRING a biographer who says it is unauthorized? What is so brain-twisting about that?
    Why is this ‘Old news” that was in the Andrew Morton Book, being rehashed? Because everyone associated with the book (including AJ, which is HER version of her life) would LIKE the book to succeed. Do you understand now?

  102. Emily says:

    Wow, this has to be one of the most insane comment sections I’ve seen in a while. Like, Japanese cinema insane. Love it! Arguments about Cleopatra’s ethnicity, along with Princess Di and Elvis AND LoveAngelina’s usual… Passion? Priceless!

  103. anon says:

    @Emily, well you are right I don’t even remember what the thread was originally about however, truly entertaining :-)
    Thank you everyone and Celebitchy Good Times :-)

  104. Oh Boy says:

    Anti-icon….A mind is a terrible thing to waste!