Camille Grammer says Kelsey talked her into ‘Housewives’ so he could cheat on her

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It looks like the gloves are off in Kelsey Grammer’s divorce. Kelsey of course left his wife of 13 years earlier this year to take up with a much younger British flight attendant, who was pregnant at the time. (Kelsey’s girlfriend sadly miscarried the baby.) Kelsey’s estranged wife Camille is one of the castmembers on the new Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. She told the NY Post that it wasn’t her idea to do the show, but that Kelsey talked her into it and she thinks he did it so he could cheat behind her back. Kelsey was in New York at the time working on Broadway.

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Kelsey and Camille Grammer’s marriage of 13 years was seemingly intact when Camille signed on to Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which debuted two weeks ago on Bravo.

Yet this past July, as the show filmed, actor Kelsey, 55, filed for divorce from Camille — and quickly stepped out with new love, 29-year-old flight attendant Katye Walsh. (Walsh sadly miscarried their child in September.)

Camille now charges that her soon-to-be ex lobbied to get her on the Bravo series in order to facilitate an affair with Walsh. Kelsey moved from Malibu to NYC to star in a revival of Broadway show La Cage Aux Folles, still running now.

“Looking back, maybe he wanted to keep me preoccupied in California while he was off having his affair in New York,” the ex Playboy model, who has two young children with the actor, tells the New York Post.

Although Camille talks on the show of stepping out of her Emmy-winning hubby’s shadow, she tells the Post “I really didn’t want to do” Housewives. “I think it was more Kelsey’s agenda. I was very reluctant, because I am a very private person.”

(Sources tell the Post that Camille, not Kelsey, first expressed interest in doing Housewives.)

The split, naturally, will play out on future episodes of the show, and Camille’s still upset with Kelsey.

“I don’t respect what he did to me and my family,” says the new reality star. “I am not happy with the way it went down. When I signed on, I didn’t think I would be going through a divorce in the middle of a reality show.”

Still, she adds: “He was my best friend. I hope when the dust settles we can remain friends.”

[From US Weekly]

I don’t blame this lady for speaking her piece. This is a very mild response to the public way that Kelsey has carried on with his mistress. In a video I saw of Kelsey out with his 29 year-old flight attendant, he seemed to court the paparazzi when they were shopping for engagement rings at Harry Winston. (He acted like he wanted the guy to leave, but it seemed like a photo op to me.)

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I watched part of the first episode of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills to learn more about Camille. (It’s on Hulu, and she comes in at 8:40) This lady is a stay at home mom with four live-in nannies for her two children, daughter Mason, 9, and son Jude, 6, born by surrogate. She said “just because someone has nannies doesn’t mean they’re not a good mother and they’re not there for their children. I’m here all the time with my children.” Her house is an insane sprawling mansion on 17 acres of land, which she calls a “small park.” That’s small? Kelsey appears in the first episode and explains “She has taken a back seat to my life. I think it’s time for Camille to get a little attention.” It comes across like he’s at least supportive of her decision to do the show.

Here are some screenshots from the first episode of Real Housewives of BH. Check out this lady Taylor’s lips. (below) She is as full of sh*t as her lips are full of collagen, and her husband is a jerk. Also, I really liked the bitchy British woman, Lisa VanderPump-Todd, and how much she and her husband pamper their little dogs. Kim, Paris Hilton’s aunt, is surprisingly genuine but shy and standoffish. Her sister Kyle is pushy and arrogant but she’s not as bad as some of the other women. This is an interesting show with some real characters.

The Grammer estate:
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Taylor and her insane lips:
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  1. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    I think Camille is insane. However I don’t think Kelsey is any saner. I don’t like Camille and I feel bad she was cheated on.

    I do think its a lie Kelsey convinced her to do the show, even though surprise he didn’t seem to have any problem being in the show which I was not expecting him to make an appearance on a reality TV show. IDK, maybe Kelsey did convince her to do that show but from watching Camille on the show and hearing some of the things she says I doubt it took a whole lot of convincing for her to do the show.

  2. NayNay says:

    I do feel kind of bad for her. I always liked Kelsey Grammer, perphaps because he reminds me of my uncle (same sense of humor), but it seems, he is kind of a douchebag. Like he was trying to push his girlfriend in Camille’s face. It certainly puts him in a different light, for me.

  3. Johnny Depp's Girl says:

    HAHAHHAHA… yeah, the rest of us live like this… puleeaassee..

    Maybe he got tired of your plastic ass.

  4. Lisa S. says:

    These ladies are karazy. I watched part of the first episode also and the whole “living with four live-in nannies for her two children”, is so insane. It’s definitely a different mentality than us little (normal) people. To say the least.

  5. Tess says:

    Ugh. I’ve always liked Kelsey, especially during the Cheers days. And he’s had real tragedy in his life. His beloved sister was murdered when he was a child and I believe he witnessed the murder.

    But still…no excuse for cheating on his wife and kids.

    But still, she comes across as a spoiled, predatory, conniving trophy wife. Ugh.

  6. fabgrrl says:

    Is is just me, or does Kelsey Grammer really look like David Hyde Pierce in that still? I see why they were cast as brothers.

    Kelsey Grammer, *sigh*. Every time I read anything about this guy’s life, I am painfully reminded that the is NOT Frasier. He’s not even Sideshow Bob.

  7. serena says:

    What is going on with that woman’s lip?? It looks like she had a bottom lip stuck on top of the top lip?!
    Maybe her face was accidentally put on partially upside down during surgery?

  8. Tess says:

    Meant to say, too, that I feel bad for Kim because I do think Kyle gets between Kim and her daughters, which is painful to watch, so I can just imagine how it must make Kim feel.

    If Kyle would just butt out, it would probably be much simpler for Kim and her kids to work thru their issues.

  9. YOYO99 says:

    Good move-now he is going to pay her half.

  10. Kristin says:

    I doubt it was his idea.

  11. Jezi says:

    Regardless of how they live or how “spoiled” she may be, the pain from being cheated on is still the same. It’s heartwrenching. This woman’s life has turned upside down now. She loved her husband and he’s flaunting his new, young girlfriend in her face without cares for her or their children. It’s extremely selfish and disrespectful. I wish her the best, hope she finds happiness. Kelsey will get hit with the karma train some day, along with the little mistress (not referring to the miscarriage, that is a pain I don’t wish on anyone). Now when I see Kelsey, all I think is PIG!!!

  12. Lisa S. says:

    Kelsey Grammer is a pig for what he did, but being with someone who was probably with him for his name, status and money? I am sure that gets old after a while. But he should have filed for divorce first, then went and screwed whoever he wanted. He did go about things in a horrible way.

  13. Po says:

    I think they live completely different lives than any of us and for all we now she wasn’t hurt by any of this. Hell, she might have a tennis instructor on the side. She has 4 nannies for 2 children and she “works” from home.
    Sorry, but there will be no pity parties thrown on her behalf over here. She’s a trophy wife, she knows the rules. Once he finds a new trophy, she will get a very nice settlement to take care of her for the rest of her life and that will be that.

  14. Zvonk says:

    I had to laugh when I read the part where she describes herself as a “very private person”. You don’t generally see “very private” people posing in Playboy. That said, I believe her when she says she was coaxed into taking part in the show.

  15. Tredd says:

    Plastic Barbie here needs to FRIGGIN EAT SOMETHING! And the show they’re all on is frightening. Except for the long-haired brunette, they all look the same. Tight-pulled faces and bozo the clown lips. People from other states must roll on the floor thinking Californians look/act/think like these bimbs.

  16. devilgirl says:

    What bugged me was when she was speaking with one of her nannies regarding her son, and if he still was feeling ill, or recovering from his cold. A mother, who sees her children regularly should not have to ask a nanny if her child is better, the mother should know.

    Someone posted about the new gf being with him because of who he is. Ummm, I am sure that is what attracted Camille in the first place as well. I doubt she would have married Kelsey, the garbage man.

  17. bros says:

    she is absurd. she travels with an entourage and her only activity was finding ways to spend his money. she referred to her husband as ‘one of the greatest actors in the world’ at one point too, and i nearly spit my food out. she cant stop congratulating herself and acting super high and mighty on the show, so the fact that he tossed her fake ass tot he side and moved on is not sad to me.

  18. malachais says:

    look, regardless of the situation and her fakeness, they still had a family and kids. NO ONE should cheat on their or leave them for a younger women, or someone else, period. Who care if she’s a moron or fake? How about Kelsey divorce her, THEN impregnate his much younger gf?

    It seems that, due to his fame and good reputation, people are letting this go by like nothing is wrong with his actions. I get that he wasn’t happy but his actions did have a negative effect on his children to say the least.

  19. dorothy says:

    I liked her until I watched the show. 4 nannies? Also had to ask nanny about child’s cold? Not a doting mother. Wasn’t she a dancer or something when he met her? Sounds like she’s doing just fine despite the divorce.

  20. Taurus says:

    Camille is this winner in this whole ordeal. She doesn’t have to ever work again and she doesn’t have to deal with his HERPES!!!

    MJ FOR HGF!

  21. guesty says:

    that estate is to die for!!! beyond gorgeous. moving out of that would be the real heartbreak.

  22. Ms_Fu says:

    I don’t know if anything can make me dislike Kelsey. This doesn’t.

  23. Eleonor says:

    Kelsey Grammer..just another case od middle age crisis?

  24. TeeTee says:

    I like the show, its better than the other series and there are actually som married wealthy women this tim.

    I think Kim is a weird, crazy woman that does not want her children to grow up–she is weird and wants to live beyond her means–Kyle and Paris mom take care of her fianancially at this point–she lives beyond her means.

    Kim is a nervous twitching crazy woman–talking about having another baby at her age AND as her sister said “umm, are you gonna get a husband first”.

    she’s mental.

  25. Sassy says:

    Even if you think Camille is a fake and a gold digger or a crappy mom because she employs 4 nannies for 2 kids, it’s not OK that she was cheated on or that Kelsey openly flaunted his girlfriend in front of her and their children. At the VERY least, he should have had enough love and respect for his kids to NOT be a douchebag.

    On a sidenote, I like Lisa and her husband. Taylor is super scary – her whole face is jacked and besides her redonkulous lips, what’s with her cheekbones? Those are not natural! Kyle is bossy and pushy and I like Kim – she does seem standofish BUT I think it’s because she’s shy and perhaps that makes her seem standofish? And the other chick, Adrienne (I think?) is jacked to the hilt with plastic and botox and so is her husband, but they seem OK if not a bit flaky/odd.

  26. Kim says:

    Dorothy, of course she has to ask one of the 4 nannies about her son’s health she is busy with her career. NOT

  27. Amanda says:

    On this show, Camille is FASCINATING. She is kooky, entitled, flighty, often snobby, boastful, ambitious– and entirely STRANGE. I think Kelsey is a strange bird too and maybe that’s what brought these two together in the first place. When watching these episodes I wait for them to get back to Camille because she is such a nut! I love it! But it’s also sooooo odd because you know that while she is filming the show, he’s off in NYC boning that stewardess. So, even while she’s boasting about her multiple homes and her nannies you pity her. Argh! It’s crazy!

  28. bros says:

    i dont mind kyle-i think she looks like a pretty good and committed mom and she is not afraid to speak the truth to her unhinged sister about her using her kids to deal with her own neediness and insecurity.

  29. Jamie says:

    #11, I think the only thing she loved was his cash.

    #18, I don’t think people are letting it go because of that. I think it’s more that nobody is buying his plastic soon to be ex-wife’s BS and ‘I’m such a victim’ crap. She married him for his money, so for all we know she might not be all that innocent in this either. I don’t feel sorry for her one bit.

    #25, I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone who’s such a fake gold digger and non-existent mother. They knew what they were getting into when they married these men and this is what you get when you marry for money. No sympathy from me whatsoever. Yeah, Kelsey’s a douche. Doesn’t mean I think Camille’s a victim by any means possible.

  30. Kiska says:

    I like this show so far. However, Taylor has got to stop the lip injections. She looks cartoonish.
    Kim is the one that needs the most help. She is so co-dependent and needy.

    Overall, the point in any relationship is to have your own life/career/passions etc because otherwise if things go south then you’re left feeling completely lost.

  31. skibunny says:

    Why would someone voluntarily annihilate their lips? They look ridiculous. Lol!

  32. Jeri says:

    Kelsey Grammer had his share of drug & stripper scandals before this marriage. I’m not taking sides, I think Camille was a gold digger & her excuse for using a surrogate seems so lame. (May have initials mixed up but IBS I think). She didn’t want to mess her figure up with pregnacy & birth. Not surprised she has 4 nannies.

  33. la_chica says:

    What I really want to know is how to pronounce the name of Kelsey’s new piece. “Katye”? Is that like Cat-ye?

  34. Chrissy says:

    Amanda, I’m with you. Camille is fascinating to watch. I don’t know any men that could stay married to her but still fun to watch. I have to say, this is definitely my favorite Real Housewives show so far!!! The only one that has really gotten on my nerves so far is Kim. She seems like a bit of a whiner. Not sure why she decided to do the show!

  35. Jamie says:

    Jeri, you’re right. It was IBS and I thought it was a lame excuse as well.

  36. Kim says:

    This one is the biggest piece of work EVER! She is ugly, unitelligent and SOOOO full of herself. She hit the freakin jackpot when Kelsey married her. She would be working at Hooters right now had he not married her.

    Would she have married Kelsey if he wasnt rich & famous – hell no!!!
    When she claims she made and saved Kelsey?? She is delusional. He was rich and famous long before she stepped into picture. Im sure he had drug problems and she helped him thru rehab perhaps but any girl woul dhave been there to take her place. Dime a dozen.

  37. Kim says:

    EEEWWWWWW! She is such a skeazy goldigger. They need her off that show. I cant watch it because of her. Its like watching a delusional crack head.

    I loved on the after show with Andy when they voted sexiest housewife and they announced Kyle. Camille tried to keep a straight face but she couldnt. She was honestly shocked it wasnt her. She is so unattractive but clearly thinks she is hot.

    Also on show she stated how she wanted to do show to show she was more than Mrs Kelsey Grammer so she is lying when she says Kelsey pushed her to do show even though she didnt. Please this girl would do ANYTHING for fame. No one is buying your “victim” story.

    All that said Kelsey should not have cheated on her. He should have maned up and got divorce. Im sure he was scared of her taking everything but now she can get more claiming adultery. She will probbly end up with that Malibu house, other houses & millions. Not bad for a few yrs of marriage and 2 kids (by a surrogate).

  38. mary jane says:

    @Amanda #27 Exactly!!

  39. original kate says:

    her lips remind me of gummi-worms. yuck.

  40. Henriette says:

    Cheating is wrong but I can see why Kelsey wanted to get rid of her plastic, User Ass.

  41. Reyna says:

    Camille is so wierd. Why does she look to the side when she says her kooky stuff like “im married to one of the most famous actors in the world” or something like that? it’s not attractive or endearing. Good body, but ugly face with her eye sockets sunken in. talentless, boring, man eater who can’t make a female friend to save her life. ugle, little teeth, scraggly hair. Kyle…love her! pretty, only slightly modified, great hair, seems sane.

  42. ally says:

    I have a friend with IBS/Crohn’s and she was told not to bear children either. Her condition has to be constantly treated with steroids (obviously incompatible with a pregnancy) and she can develop internal infection and bleeding at any time. This, in addition, to horrible pain and nausea that can strike and disable her at any moment. She has already had to have surgery twice to save her life.

    Obviously all this is incompatible with the stresses of a pregnancy.

    Commenters, there’s enough to gossip about here without slagging people off for things they can’t control, like their illnesses.

  43. Anne says:

    Ally: All those terrible symptoms that interfere with pregnancy belong to Crohn’s disease, not IBS. I should know, I have IBS. That’s what Camille claims she has, not Crohn’s.

  44. Pamela Dee says:

    I get a kick out of all of them. Kelsey looks great. Camille looks fine but she MUST stop with the surgery or whatever it is that renders her unable to speak. Does she think she looks good like that? This botox, surgery thing does ONE thing, makes Drs. rich and women look terrible and fake. They DO NOT look younger, just look full of botox or whatever.

    Taylor looks ridiculous. Her lips do more damage than good. FIX it. Shes pretty but now looks bizzaro! What are these people THINKING?

  45. Pamela Dee says:

    gustey. That is stupid. NOTHING is to die for…really!

  46. Pamela Dee says:

    Know what? I LOVE Kim. She is probably the most genuine of the bunch and doesn’t look one bit botoxed to death! She is aging gracefully and is lovely, not fake.

    GOOD FOR YOU Kim. Stay the course. Just because you are more reserved doesn’t have to amount to a negative for you.

  47. Denise says:

    Camille is a spoiled crazy lady! How can you be called a “good mom” when you pass off the raising and birthing to other people? Did she need a surrogate for health reasons or was it vanity? I think she is a nut case. Good for Kelsey for gettting out, he just should ahve done it the right way and left before picking up a girlfriend. Camille even says “I kept Kelsey sober” She has grand ideas about herself. I side will Kyle and say she needs help!

  48. Stefanetly says:

    Camille you are crazy. Kyle didn’t say anything like that to you. I think you make these crazy things up so you can whine to your lacky friends and they will help your ego telling you bullshit things they probably don’t even really believe. Your body rocks but that plastic face of yours….jealous…..please koo koo whacko. I would not trade places w you for anything. I actually like spending time with my children and taking care of them myself. As far as Kelsey cheating on you…..karma is a bitch crazy lady!

  49. Thai says:

    Camille is worse than Danielle of RHNJ!!
    She meets her mom at the nail salon.. Who does that? She wants to swear on the life of her mom about something she says.. Which was probably a lie, and can’t even meet her mom at a resteraunt or her apartment?! That’s so not the way you treat your mom. And her husband cheating? Please I’m sure she did it way before him.. With her tennis instructor. I’m a married woman and I don’t hold my male friends hands or kiss them. She really has let the $$ go to her brain & whatever ‘things’ she is on… She thinks she’s god gift to women but she really needs to look in the mirror cause she is not the 2010 Marilyn Monroe. She needs to act like a mother and spend time with her children instead of sitting in hot tubs with old men and asking her tennis instructor about his balls. It takes more than being pretty.. Being a good wife and a good mother requires hard work, time, and devotion. I see none of those qualities in her!!

  50. Emma says:

    I grew up in a “loaded” family in Bel Air and was raised on the premise that you don’t talk about money, that money does not care who has it (e.g. the worst trash in the world can have money), and that you don’t make “Leona Helmsley” comments about the “little people” and their lack of material wealth or place on the social hierarchy (I got news for you, Miss Camile–you’re lower than the guy who polishes the shoes at the Beverly Wilshire hotel–at least, he is a contributing member of the world community, not a overly-surgeried parasite like you).

    And, sorry, that your 3,500 sq ft. Manhattan pad, to which you, likely, no longer have the keys, is kind a small (said with a snide giggle). That is like calling the 13,500 sq foot home in which I grew up a “condo.”

    Put your soon-to-be ex’s money into some therapy for yourself; you are unrivaledly INSECURE (even though Kyle never called you that), and get some reality testing (you are delusional) and lessons in diplomacy.

    While your husband is the consummate troll and jerk, you give as good as you got from him.

    Finally, look up “borderline personality” on Google–that and narcissism and grandiosity.

    Or as the French say, “debris blanc.” Ugh!!

    P.S. What is that strange, breathy way of speaking–it’s bizarre and affected. Just sayin’.

  51. Emma says:

    I grew up in a “loaded” family in Bel Air and was raised on the premise that you don’t talk about money, that money does not care who has it (e.g. the worst trash in the world can have money), and that you don’t make “Leona Helmsley” comments about the “little people” and their lack of material wealth or place on the social hierarchy (I got news for you, Miss Camile–you’re lower than the guy who polishes the shoes at the Beverly Wilshire hotel–at least, he is a contributing member of the world community, not a overly-surgeried parasite like you).

    And, sorry, that your 3,500 sq ft. Manhattan pad, to which you, likely, no longer have the keys, is kind a small (said with a snide giggle). That is like calling the 13,500 sq foot home in which I grew up a “condo.”

    Put your soon-to-be ex’s money into some therapy for yourself; you are unrivaledly INSECURE (even though Kyle never called you that), and get some reality testing (you are delusional) and lessons in diplomacy.

    While your husband is the consummate troll and jerk, you give as good as you got from him.

    Finally, look up “borderline personality” on Google–that and narcissism and grandiosity.

    Or as the French say, “debris blanc.” Ugh!!

    P.S. What is that strange, breathy way of speaking–it’s bizarre and affected. Just sayin’.

  52. Lori leo says:

    I don’t blame Chelsey for cheating on you!! Pecking order..that has nothing to do with you lying about what kyle said. You are not even a pretty woman with your disgusting lips and huge forhead!! Wow, get off it lady!! You are the MOST INSECURE woman I have ever seen!!! You are nothing with out Chelsey and your behavior with Nick is borderline prostitution!! You disgust me and to be jealous of you would be hysterical. I don’t know anyone that would want to be what you are!! Borderline prostitute, shallow and insecure with one big lip and one you can barely see, huge forhead and bad skin!!! Oh, forgot about your eyes and your smile…I suggest you get your entire face..no add personality..oh just disappear!!!

  53. lavinia says:

    Poor camille! Yeah she made an a** of herself on TV by acting like a raving lunatic, but so what. And will people STOP going on about how awful she is for having 2 nannies per child? I don’t hear ANYONE criticising that cheating rat KELSEY for having nannies! They’re his kids and nannies too! It’s 2010, why does the woman still always get criticised for childcare choices?!!

  54. CB Rawks says:

    I wish I could get that show where I live. I’m dying to see how Kyle and Kim turned out, because I only know them as child stars.

  55. Missy Rhode Island says:

    I love Kelsey Grammer and was so looking forward to getting to know his wife, Camille, through her new tv show. I thought she was going to be so nice. BOY, WAS I WRONG. Camille is awful. There is definitely something wrong with her. And I mean more than just her GIGANTIC INSECURITY ISSUES. Kyle is right. Camille is delusional and I believe she is a liar. The truth is she has a knock out body, but her face is not the least bit attractive. How in the world she believes people dislike her because they’re jealous is rediculous. Wake up Camille. No-one is jealous of you. People don’t like you because you are a self absorbed, obnoxious woman who lies and thinks she is above everybody else. And those so called “friends” of yours, who, by the way, all seem to be paid by you for one service or another, should stop telling, you what they think you want to hear. They are not doing you any favors by allowing you to believe your own crazy delusions. They are just trying to keep their paycheck flowing. If they were true friends they would try to get you some help.

  56. dianne says:

    Kelsey are these your kids too? According to the self centered blond bimbo they are but you aren’t planning on seeing them. Please still be their dad even though you seemingly haven’t been. Just get them out of Camille’s hands. Maybe the new girly friend will be a better influence.

  57. Cheryl says:

    Kelsey has herpes?

    I keep seeing the swamp thing’s lips from the 70’s. Remember that black and white movie where the “swamp thing” would walk out of the water and take the woman… she would scream…he would do plastic surgery? hmmm

  58. Debbie says:

    Camille is a truly borderline personality. She twists every situation and she only cares about herself. She is manipulative, cunning, self-absorbed and truly believes everything that she says. She loves herself and thats good because no one else ever will. It is impossible to love or be in a relationship with a borderline personality and unfortunately there is no little pill that can help this nasty sick individual

  59. wunderkindt says:

    Camille is nutso! Maybe its really her who had the herpes and gave it to Kelsey. She seems pretty horny around tennis dude Nick. Who knows what Camille has? She used a surrogate maybe because SHE had an STD?

  60. Stephanie says:

    Well I don’t like Camille because she is soooo stuck up. She was a nobody until she met Kelsey and all she saw was $$$$$$. As far as the divorce, she need not worry……She’s set for life and will probably get to keep that mansion. (and the nannies lol)

  61. Dana says:

    Wait, does anyone realize that in last week’s episode at the table in Camille’s home that Camille made a statement to whatever that female’s name is who is the so called “median” about Kile’s husband which sounded like she had an affair with him and…did anyone notice that before the ladies left that Camille looked at “median lady” and she swipped her finger across her nose like a cue to Camille to say that comment about Kile. I cannot remember those two comments but watch again and really listen and watch for that cue.

  62. RHSidekick says:

    Camille doesn’t like that America thinks she is delusional because Kyle said she was.
    Kyle asserts that Camille is perceived to be delusional because she (Camille) says things that aren’t true.

    so … first … is Camille delusional?

    short answer: no. at some point in their lives, everyone has an issue (or few) that they are very sensitive about. when they are very sensitive about said issues, they tend to read a little more into related ambiguous events than was really there. that doesn’t make someone delusional. it just means that they made a normal, understandable error in processing information. Camille made an error in processing what Kyle said to her. but Camille wasn’t delusional – this is just the way the brain works. when it only gets little bits of information, it fills the rest of the story in with whatever else it knows. she just made a mistake. the trouble is that the mistake caused such intense negative emotion for Camille, and Camille was unable to listen to others’ perspectives afterward or to communicate in an open, honest way that could have led to resolution. Camille felt attacked, and, therefore, assumed that someone must be attacking her … rather than she felt attacked because she inferred an attacking meaning from an ambiguous comment. but this doesn’t make someone delusional – it just makes them human.

    second … does Camille say things that aren’t true?

    short answer: yes. Camille said that Kyle said something that she did not actually say (this may not have been a lie on Camille’s part: this may have been an honest mistake). however, there are other instances when Camille has insinuated very nasty things about others that she knew were untrue or had good reason not to think were true. she deliberately led people to believe Kyle’s husband was unfaithful. she also deliberately led people to believe Kelsey was a cross-dresser. she smiled smugly and giggled when making these nasty insinuations. this doesn’t make Camille delusional. it makes her behavior catty and unconscionable. Camille fails to grasp the fact that just because she personally feels wounded, she is not entitled to attack others any way she sees fit. if she feels wounded, she is entitled to respectfully, honestly, and openly discuss her feelings with the person by whom she feels wounded. or she is entitled to cut off the relationship. but her dishonest statements hit well below the belt. to her credit, when Camille was not caught up in her own intense negative emotion, she did realize how unfair she had been … and she tried to take back the dishonest comments she had made.