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Written by JayBird
Posted in Gay Issues, George Takei, Marriage, Photos
21 Responses to “George Takei gets marriage license, Star Trek co-stars to be in wedding party”
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His”Isn’t it wonderful?” speech outside the courthouse was so adorable too - just pure delight
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I’m so proud of my state.
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Good for California! Now let’s just hope the voters in the fall don’t try this ‘amendement’ to the state Constitution to outlaw gay marriage. Human rights for everyone!
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“I’m so proud of my state.”
“Good for California!”
Again, you people realize that the people of California didn’t want gay marriage, and that it took a court overturning the law to allow this?
I’m just saying, regardless of how you feel about it, that ‘California’ decided they didn’t want gay marriage, and a few people in robes changed it. It’s not like California had a referendum and the people embraced gay marriage whole-heartedly, in fact, the opposite happened.
So please, lets all just stop the congratulatory back-slapping and realize that the people who were against it when they voted for it, are most likely still against it. Nothing has changed, and when it comes up for another vote, it will be passed again.
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The law was judged to be unconstitutional you sore loser- get over it. Congrats to Mr. Sulu and his partner.
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Scott, can you not just be happy for the two people here without needing to make a point? Yesterday, you applauded the decision by a judge to overturn Leona Helmsley’s idiotic will: can’t you just do the same here and applaud the wisdom of the CSC on having made the right decision, regardless of whether it was or wasn’t what the majority of Californians wanted?
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Dude, you’re implying I give a shit. I don’t even live in California. I’m just really tired of everyone acting like this is a groundbreaking moment for gays in this country, when it’s barely a symbolic, and most likely temporary, victory.
It was judged unconstitutional in California? Yeah, so was capital punishment. That lasted just long enough to get Charles Manson and his cronies off of death row, and then poof, it went away.
California Courts, the 9th Circuit in particular, levy the most often overturned decisions in the country. It’s already going to be voted on again, and it will do endless rounds in the courts all over again.
Like I said, I don’t really care if gays marry. But to insinuate this as some kind of huge victory? No. Civil Rights victories come when you change the view of the majority of people. It was watching blacks in peaceful marches having dogs and firehoses turned on them that changed the minds of the white mainstream. And it wasn’t until then that anything really changed.
How many court decisions did they have in their favor between the end of the Civil War and the 1960’s? A ton. But nothing changed until they won over the mainstream.
That simply hasn’t happened yet for homosexuals. This is a victory in court, but the majority voted against it directly. You can’t force tolerance on people, or they’ll reject it. When those votes start coming back in favor of gay marriage, THEN you can start talking about victories.
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This is a groundbreaking moment for gays. Like it or lump it. They won an important right. I will resume back slapping and jumping for joy.
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So the celebratory language should say “Yay for California’s judges” and “I’m so proud of my state’s judiciary”
Ok I’m being a little flippant - and I do support gay people being allow to have civil marriages (religious marriages are a separate matter - they don’t carry with them the legal rights bestowed upon marrieds).
But if Scott was right and the majority of voters in that State didn’t vote allow marriage for gay people, then even though it may follow the constitution of hte state, it does appear to be undemocratic.
However, if the law is allowed to stay for any length of time, attitudes will change. For example, divorce was rejected by referendum in Ireland in the 1980s. It was passed only by about .5% (point five per-cent) in a second referendum in 1999. But if the referendum was to held again soon it is safe to say that a more comfortable majority of voters would vote to keep it.
So hopefully - from small acorns….
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Scott, you have no idea what you are talking about. People ALL over the country WANT gay people to have the right to marry. There is so much behind this that mornons like you don’t even understand. You pull this stuff out of your a** and expect people to agree. Get a clue and do some research before you start spewing hate. Are you that miserable with your own existence you give a crap what two happy healthy citizens do with their own commitmed, monogomous relationship.. GIVE ME A BREAK DUDE. HAPPY PRIDE THIS MONTH EVERYONE.
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Hopefully the Romulans won’t cause trouble at the reception. You know how they are after they get some alcohol in them!
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We’ll see how the people of California vote this Novemeber, since they voted against it last time. It’s sad to give these people false hope.
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Ahhh better that devilgirl than a bunch of po-faced Vulcans sitting there wondering why they’re bothering and how illogical it is to spend all that time and money on a wedding a.k.a. resident cranky feckers
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I just love the idiots that go on about “renegade” judges. These are the same people who allowed women to vote, allowed black equal rights, allowed blacks and whites to marry, among other things. Amazing people who have forethought and and intensity of thought. These amazing people shape our culture in ways that you, Mr SF never will, you are part of the flock. Not the leader of any. I applaude these judges, 2 of which were appointed by republican governors. Society moves ahead and will leave those along the side of the road who choose not to come. Congratualtions to George and Brad.
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“These are the same people who allowed women to vote, allowed black equal rights, allowed blacks and whites to marry, among other things.”
Pretty sure women’s suffrage, the Equal Rights Amendment, ect. were all passed into law by our duly elected representatives, not judges.
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Regardless of public sentiment come November, there is no repeal that can retroactively deprive same-sex couples of their legal status - provided they marry within the next couple months. This constitutes a major victory for equal rights activists, and will hopefully influence upcoming court decisions.
As for the happy couple . . . . AWWWWWW! Best wishes!
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Yeah, how DARE judges do their job which is interpreting the law and seeing to its proper application !! We need an absolute dictatorship of, by, and for the pig-ignorant masses who spend their time watching wrestling, care more about voting for American Idol than they do Presidents, and made Denise Richards a TV sensation overnight.
Let the revolution for the ’so what’ Myspace generation begin !!
All kidding aside, baby steps are baby steps and nay-sayers can cry all they like about it. For someone who ‘doesn’t give a shit’, they seem to have an awful lot to say about it.
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I’m staying out of this one. I am elated for gays right now, though.
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Here’s a great article on the Chief Justice’s decision-making process for this, he really wrestled with the decision:
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-gay18-2008may18,0,3247725.story
I hope the referendum in the fall doesn’t pass…I will definitely vote against it!
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Congratulations to George & Brad!
Living in West Hollywood, CA… (where their marriage took place) I was lucky enough to be in attendance for their happy day & I must say, it was amazing!
This is a HUGE step for gay rights and I couldn’t me any more proud.
Scott…. MANY recent polls on news sites, internet gossip sites and even a phone/e-mail poll THROUGH California Governor Swartzenegger’s office, shows that the people of California SUPPORT gay marriage now.
I can’t wait to marry my partner!!
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I am so happy for them. Gay marriage/relationships also make me happy. :]