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		<title>By: CJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He got to be sick of her running him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He got to be sick of her running him.
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		<title>By: Mairead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mairead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OOoh that's cold Kaiser!!! :P 


Oh yes - I'd forgotten (mentally blocked) the grandaddy of all bastard tycoons - Murdoch.  (And Robert Maxwell, and Aristotle Onassis and Randolph Hearst before him) :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OOoh that&#8217;s cold Kaiser!!! <img src='http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh yes - I&#8217;d forgotten (mentally blocked) the grandaddy of all bastard tycoons - Murdoch.  (And Robert Maxwell, and Aristotle Onassis and Randolph Hearst before him) <img src='http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Kaiser/ Hippacrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaiser/ Hippacrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah... I don't think she adopted David Banda to save her marriage, or to provide a loving home to a kid who needed one.  I think she did it to get attention, because she wanted a piece of the positive press The Brange was getting.  The end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230; I don&#8217;t think she adopted David Banda to save her marriage, or to provide a loving home to a kid who needed one.  I think she did it to get attention, because she wanted a piece of the positive press The Brange was getting.  The end.
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		<title>By: Suuuuuuuue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suuuuuuuue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Lauri you are the only one-still living in the 1950's!!! She has all the money in the world to give ample visitation-as she has proven with her daughter Lourdes.As far as why did she go forward with the adoption?? Man oh man can't even begin to tell you how many women have babies just before the break-up...Is it smart-no. Common-yeah!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Lauri you are the only one-still living in the 1950&#8217;s!!! She has all the money in the world to give ample visitation-as she has proven with her daughter Lourdes.As far as why did she go forward with the adoption?? Man oh man can&#8217;t even begin to tell you how many women have babies just before the break-up&#8230;Is it smart-no. Common-yeah!
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		<title>By: Lauri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who thinks that the worst part about it is that she wants to move her children to NY, while their father stays in England?  Seems to me that she should keep her butt planted in England so the kids can have liberal visitation with him.  Yes, I know he's not her daughter's father, but he has been in that role for 7 years.  Whatever happened to putting your children's well-being ahead of your own desires?

And she HAD to know that her relationship was rocky when she adopted that poor little guy from Malawi.  Why did she go forward with it?  So now he gets to lose another father?  NICE.  

But, in her mind I'm sure, it is all about her, nevermind who gets hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who thinks that the worst part about it is that she wants to move her children to NY, while their father stays in England?  Seems to me that she should keep her butt planted in England so the kids can have liberal visitation with him.  Yes, I know he&#8217;s not her daughter&#8217;s father, but he has been in that role for 7 years.  Whatever happened to putting your children&#8217;s well-being ahead of your own desires?</p>
<p>And she HAD to know that her relationship was rocky when she adopted that poor little guy from Malawi.  Why did she go forward with it?  So now he gets to lose another father?  NICE.  </p>
<p>But, in her mind I&#8217;m sure, it is all about her, nevermind who gets hurt!
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		<title>By: Suuuuuuuue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suuuuuuuue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is in the same place as men of her stature-who the hell are you going to marry who's not A-threatened B-gold digging......look at Trump,Murdoch....I spent quite alot of time working out when I rid myself of the last beau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is in the same place as men of her stature-who the hell are you going to marry who&#8217;s not A-threatened B-gold digging&#8230;&#8230;look at Trump,Murdoch&#8230;.I spent quite alot of time working out when I rid myself of the last beau.
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never gave this marriage a chance so I am not surprised, still I like Madonna and it is a shame that her marriage may end soon.

She has a blog that I enjoy reading, it is actually very humourous. 

Without all the negative things she has been accused of by the posters, I doubt she would be where she is. She has a ruthless streak, and she needs it to keep her head above the water in this business.

She should ease up a bit on the exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never gave this marriage a chance so I am not surprised, still I like Madonna and it is a shame that her marriage may end soon.</p>
<p>She has a blog that I enjoy reading, it is actually very humourous. </p>
<p>Without all the negative things she has been accused of by the posters, I doubt she would be where she is. She has a ruthless streak, and she needs it to keep her head above the water in this business.</p>
<p>She should ease up a bit on the exercise.
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		<title>By: geronimo</title>
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		<dc:creator>geronimo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with everyone on the side of not disliking her because she's an astute, highly successful business woman. She is, and kudos for that. What puts me off her mainly is how permanently discontented she comes across, despite everything she's achieved. That, and her lofty pretentions, sense of entitlement and total lack of humour in interviews. I liked her a lot when she didn't take herself quite so seriously.

It's a shame her marriage is ending - I liked them together, and do think they were happy for a lot of the time because they were both willing to compromise - but I think they've just finally reached a point of no return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with everyone on the side of not disliking her because she&#8217;s an astute, highly successful business woman. She is, and kudos for that. What puts me off her mainly is how permanently discontented she comes across, despite everything she&#8217;s achieved. That, and her lofty pretentions, sense of entitlement and total lack of humour in interviews. I liked her a lot when she didn&#8217;t take herself quite so seriously.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame her marriage is ending - I liked them together, and do think they were happy for a lot of the time because they were both willing to compromise - but I think they&#8217;ve just finally reached a point of no return.
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		<title>By: Mairead</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mairead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue Mac, yes some sectors, like the financial industry it's still a "big boy's club" (possibly because they know their wealth isn't based on the fruits of their labour but bloodsucking trading off others - yeah I said it). 

But elsewhere, I'm not convinced it's the case that a tough female boss or finacial is a b*tch, but a tough male boss or financial success is seen as wonderful - and isn't immune to being called a b*stard, douche etc. 

To prove my point - Donald Trump, Sir Alan Sugar and Steve Jobs.  Even Bill Gates is a tough little fecker - otherwise why was he No. 1 richest in the world whilst the co-founder of Microsoft was No. 3? Because he insisted on getting the bigger chunk of the profits as he decided to drop out of University to work on Microsoft.  That's some tough negotiating there. 

Female financial successes not branded absolute terrors by all and sundry - Jacqueline Gold (who took over Anne Summers in the early 80s from her very sceptical father) and the founder of Ultimo lingerie. 

Now on women getting to the top is a whole different matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue Mac, yes some sectors, like the financial industry it&#8217;s still a &#8220;big boy&#8217;s club&#8221; (possibly because they know their wealth isn&#8217;t based on the fruits of their labour but bloodsucking trading off others - yeah I said it). </p>
<p>But elsewhere, I&#8217;m not convinced it&#8217;s the case that a tough female boss or finacial is a b*tch, but a tough male boss or financial success is seen as wonderful - and isn&#8217;t immune to being called a b*stard, douche etc. </p>
<p>To prove my point - Donald Trump, Sir Alan Sugar and Steve Jobs.  Even Bill Gates is a tough little fecker - otherwise why was he No. 1 richest in the world whilst the co-founder of Microsoft was No. 3? Because he insisted on getting the bigger chunk of the profits as he decided to drop out of University to work on Microsoft.  That&#8217;s some tough negotiating there. </p>
<p>Female financial successes not branded absolute terrors by all and sundry - Jacqueline Gold (who took over Anne Summers in the early 80s from her very sceptical father) and the founder of Ultimo lingerie. </p>
<p>Now on women getting to the top is a whole different matter&#8230;
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		<title>By: Kaiser/ Hippacrat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaiser/ Hippacrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn.  This is a really good conversation.  Alright, re "strong  women" (Sue Mac)-- my problem with women like Hillary Clinton and Oprah is the corportization of victimhood.  Hillary turned being a victim into political power, and Oprah has turned victimization into a commodity that can be marketed and sold.  It bothers me that they still consider themselves "strong women" while profitting from the exploitation of REAL WOMEN WITH REAL PROBLEMS.

But Madge is a different case altogether.  I actually don't put her in the same catagory as Hills or Opes, only in that she's very rich (richer than Clinton).  I think people (and I'm including myself) don't like her because of:
1. The Kabbalah bullshit.
2. She doesn't seem like a very grounded, affectionate mother.
3. After using sex as a way to get attention, she got our attention and had absolutely nothing to say.
4. Her music started to suck circa 2001.
5. All of her fake accents.  Girl's from Detroit, not Jane Austen-ville.
6. The Gwyneth Bullshit - and by that, I mean the shameless star-fucking.

I could go on and on.  It's not that she's a "strong woman" - one of the only things I like about her is the simple fact that she's a really good businesswoman - it's that she is a diva, a harpie, a bitch that treats everyone like her entourage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn.  This is a really good conversation.  Alright, re &#8220;strong  women&#8221; (Sue Mac)&#8211; my problem with women like Hillary Clinton and Oprah is the corportization of victimhood.  Hillary turned being a victim into political power, and Oprah has turned victimization into a commodity that can be marketed and sold.  It bothers me that they still consider themselves &#8220;strong women&#8221; while profitting from the exploitation of REAL WOMEN WITH REAL PROBLEMS.</p>
<p>But Madge is a different case altogether.  I actually don&#8217;t put her in the same catagory as Hills or Opes, only in that she&#8217;s very rich (richer than Clinton).  I think people (and I&#8217;m including myself) don&#8217;t like her because of:<br />
1. The Kabbalah bullshit.<br />
2. She doesn&#8217;t seem like a very grounded, affectionate mother.<br />
3. After using sex as a way to get attention, she got our attention and had absolutely nothing to say.<br />
4. Her music started to suck circa 2001.<br />
5. All of her fake accents.  Girl&#8217;s from Detroit, not Jane Austen-ville.<br />
6. The Gwyneth Bullshit - and by that, I mean the shameless star-fucking.</p>
<p>I could go on and on.  It&#8217;s not that she&#8217;s a &#8220;strong woman&#8221; - one of the only things I like about her is the simple fact that she&#8217;s a really good businesswoman - it&#8217;s that she is a diva, a harpie, a bitch that treats everyone like her entourage.
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