Even though I don’t know if she’s done it in the past, Jane Seymour seems like one of those people that’s always offering unsolicited advice and telling people what to do. I totally love her, and I can’t really put my finger on why I think this. There’s just something vaguely school marmish about her. In an attempt to prove me right (how very kind of you Jane) she’s decided to lecture Angelina Jolie about what she needs to be doing for her pregnancy – via OK! Magazine, the best doctor at all.
“My advice to her is to put some weight on,” the Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman star told OK!. “I think she needs to keep putting on weight so she can feed those babies. I don’t think she should think twice. She hasn’t put on enough weight.”
Seymour,57, says that when she had her twins, John and Kristopher, in 1995, it was a life threatening delivery.
“I nearly died having the twins,” she recalled. “I had preclampsia, which is toxemia, and I had to have an emergency C-section and I almost lost my life. So my advice to her [Jolie] is to listen to your doctors and if they say bed rest and they say blood pressure cuff every hour and they say whatever medication they say, you should take it very seriously.”
[From OK! Magazine]
I think the reason Jane Seymour’s comments annoy me isn’t that she’s wrong, but that there’s something about the way she’s phrased her words that implies she’s assuming Angelina isn’t doing these things, and isn’t taking her pregnancy seriously. Jolie is definitely very, very thin. But she seems to be very devoted to her kids – certainly enough that you’d think if her doctor told her it was medically necessary to gain weight, she’d do it to the best of her ability. There are some people out there who really can’t put on the pounds. I hate them with a fire I can’t explain. But I’m constantly told they’re out there.
It seems like Jane Seymour’s comments are coming from a good place, and she’s just offering her advice based on her very scary experience. Somehow it comes off sort of lecturing to me, but it’s probably just her way of trying to pass on some life experience.
Header of Jane Seymour at the “Reservation Road” premiere in Los Angeles on October 18th; Angelina Jolie is shown at Cannes for the “Kung Fu Panda” premiere on May 19th. Images thanks to PR Photos.
Bit presumptuous of her to be offering opinions without knowing the facts (although she probably meant well, having had complications with her own.)
Who is she to be giving advice to someone she does not even know? This is so strange to me. She was 44 when her twins were born years ago and Angelina is only 33. Angelina is in the hospital getting rest which is fairly common in France for pregnant women with multiples or any pregnancy concerns like previous c-sections or if a doctor thinks the mom to be needs rest before delivery as France has national health care unlike the US and takes pride in providing great maternal care.
For someone who has lost considerable weight due to stress and other effects is so much harder for them to put on weight, I know I am the same. It is not that they do not want to, it is that they just cant so it is quite inconsiderate to criticize someone about such a private matter as their weight. Besides, in all fairness Angelina was always quite slim and she does not seem to have any problems in conceiving and carrying a pregnancy, so she must be healthier then people think.
Totally right Jaybird about gaining weight being difficult for some. it’s definitely not for me, but for my older sister it’s nearly impossible! She could eat cheeseburgers and pizza all day for months and maybe gain a pound or two! For some reason (I’d kill to know!) she just can’t gain. She filled out more during her pregnancies but looked more like an average woman with a bit extra through the middle than a full-blown pregnant woman. The second time around she looked much more pregnant though. Anyway, for most people the pounds seem to pack on just thinking about food, but for others, try as they may, it just doesn’t happen.
End of tangent. 🙂
i too am a skinny bird-i recommend Xmas pudding (UK version)-my Doctor advised me-its calorific and tastes good too-combine with excercise and booze-in that order
This woman who has never met Ms. Jolie seems to think she is still Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. Someone needs to tell her she is not a doctor, she just played one on TV.
uh oh Jane, bad timing on giving unsolicited advice to a mom about to give birth.
LL is right.
I don’t think Angelina Jolie has eaten properly throughout this pregnancy OR before it. Angelina said herself she wasn’t eating enough, after her mother died. Wasn’t there a rumour of IVF? because she was too skinny to conceive naturally? That would explain twins btw!! Oh and even though she’s all `baby bump` there’s no meat on her. No wonder she was fainting during the pregnancy. Even Nicole Richie got fatter and that’s saying something. I feel sorry for those twins, must be like living in a fricken desert.
I can’t imagine what it feels like lying in hospital however luxurious(home would have been better)doing nothing all day but twiddling your thumbs. And Brad having to look after all those kids worrying about their mother in hospital with gestational diabetes. She must be in adelicate condition and that is why her bed rest is in hospital.
Has any one noticed that these two actually have no friends. Has any other celeb even visited Angelina? She should make some friends when she leaves hospital. Brad lost all his friends.
I am glad France is not making a big deal out of this.
LL is right. who is seymour to talk about another woman’s pregnancy weight? plenty of women dont get all fat when they are pregnant-look at pregnant women in other parts of the world who dont have access to cheeseburgers and fries and chocolate cake and they look about as slim as jolie and still give birth and have healthy birth weights for their babies. its not written anywhere that a woman has to achieve a certain plump look otherwise she is disobeying the doc or putting her babies at risk. in fact, seymores age was probably much more of a risk to her twins than angies weight.
Who is to say she hasn’t gained enough weight? She sure looks to me like she’s put on the recommended weight – just because her arms & legs are skinny doesn’t mean she hasn’t put it on elsewhere. And the main reason we gain weight during pregnancy is to provide proper nutrition to our babies after they’re born – which she does and which is very healthy. I think the only people who need to be concerned with Angelina’s health during her pregnancy are Angelina and her doctor. And I’m pretty certain her OB’s name is not Dr. Quinn.
And about preeclampsia – it can strike any pregnant woman, no matter their size or how healthy their pregnancy had been up to that point. It just happens sometimes.
she may be coming from a good place, but everything she says screams “has-been seeks limelight”.
Angelina’s weight was a bit too low prior to conceiving the twins. I wouldn’t be suprrised if she had complications stemming from that. May be she should have waited a bit.
As Zelda said, Jane was 44 when she had her twins & Angie is 33. Any complications Jane had could very well have been related to her age. Plus, as Kolby said, preeclampsia can strike anyone.
Seems to me that Jane is just trying to get press from all the Jolie-Pitt hulabaloo. I mean, what made her decide to offer unsolicited advice?
So Jane has another TV movie coming out when on the Lifetime channel ?
From my point of view, I am in my 9th month and completely fed up with advices. I don’t know why, maybe because it’s universal to every woman (almost) but when you are pregnant people only talk to you about that, like you become a walking womb and that you don’t have any interest in other things. But I go through my day normally, and sometimes, I just realise that I am pregnant.
For Angelina, she might really need he rest or have a terrible condition, because
1- she is not the kind of person that I would see willing to stay for long there : she looks like loving her freedom
2- we really keep people for the least time we can in France because of not enough money and not enough beds available (max are 5 days for normal delivery, 7 days for C-section but they try to kick you out after 2-3 days to free the beds)
I wouldn’t like to be pregnant in Nice right now because Angelina is using a whole section for herself, that means you have to share a double bedroom with somebody else and you have to get out early
I am sure Angelina is listening to her own doctor’s advice and is doing well.
Brad seems to prefer extremely thin women–think Gwyneth Paltrow and Jennifer Aniston. Maybe that’s why Angelina got so thin.
Or maybe it’s the stress of taking on 6 children in 3 years, combined with constant globetrotting.
“max are 5 days for normal delivery, 7 days for C-section but they try to kick you out after 2-3 days to free the beds”
Not sure how it is in the rest of the US, but here in NY the max for a vaginal delivery is 48 hours and for a c-section it’s 96 hours (unless your doctor requires you to stay longer). It’s all about the insurance here, baby!
Meh. Angie was too thin last year, but went back to a healthier weight, got preggo, and looks to be having a pretty healthy pregnancy. The timing of this is weird for another reason – AMA just released a study saying that being overweight is more dangerous than being underweight during a pregnancy.
Kolby, you said it for me. Insurance rules US health care!
The 48 hours is fairly recent, too. Had to get an act of congress or something to get that, because for a long time there they were tossing you into the street the next day.
Whatever you think of Michael Moore, his movie “Sicko” points out that the US has the worst health care of any civilized country.
Forget babies, she needs some weight distributed to her MAN HANDS! Everytime i see her, it’s all i see, those huge, veiny, bony hands. Gross.
kolby, syko -you are both so right. For a time US hospital were sending new moms and babies home within 6 hours or less after giving birth. All about the insurance. Drive by birthing. France sounds wonderful to me.
my mom and i stayed in hospital for 3 weeks after i was born. gotta love the german health care system
I don’t know what it is with people and weight issue. I have three children and did not put on much weight during the pregnancies, my last child is now 14 and I still do not have weight issue. It seems to me that those that are overweight somehow resent the skinny women who stay thin without even trying.
I remember all the know it alls screaming that Angelina was too thin during her pregnancy with Shiloh and she gave birth to a healthy baby girl.
She addressed her weight loss last year and said the loss of her mother and a whole bunch of other things going on with her life and she needed to figure out her diet and was working on gaining weight, but that will be a boring explanation for those looking for it to be related to ivf or some sort of sickness. People are always looking for drama.
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I have observed as well that thin women can give birth to healthy babies. I have read that the baby is picking iron and calcium in your own reserves… which lead you to a deficiency for some nutriments.. but the baby got what he needed. He is taking yield
It may come as a shock to some (but probably not all) of you that the US is the only “industrialized” nation in the world that does not mandate maternity leave after the birth of a child. That’s right – no company is obligated to give a new mother any time off at all. Luckily, most do, but even then it’s a very short period of time (at most 3 months) and we all know it’s not long enough. There are countries in Europse where women get 18 months of maternity leave. Makes me want to pack up & move straight to Bulgaria.
Do you mean ‘paid’ leave? FMLA mandates that your employer has to give you 12 weeks of unpaid leave. (with 50 or more employees)
Yes, I should have said paid. Still, most people cannot afford 12 weeks of unpaid time off for anything, and 12 weeks is not enough time for a mother (or father) to spend with a newborn. I’m dreading having to put my child in daycare when the time comes. Absolutely dreading it.
The whole health care system here is a joke. What your doctor orders doesn’t matter, it’s what your insurance company decides they will pay for.
Chances are, if a mom needs to work, she needs that 12 weeks of pay, too.
We are so far behind the rest of the world in this, I don’t know where we get our arrogance. Even places like Cuba have better health care, and it’s free. I’m not even sickly and I spend a fortune in co-pays and deductibles.
I always laugh when I hear toher people tell them what they should be doing in their pregnancy. All pregnancies are different. AJ will never be heavy it is not in her genes. Jayne needs to be quiet. She played a doctor and is not one in real life. I am sure that AJ doctor has madesure she is giving those twins the right amount of nutrition . At least Aj won’t have to shed 40 pounds of fat after she has the kids.
Women who gain lots of weight when they are pregnant at more at risk than those that don’t. I ate like a horse whiel pregnant and never gained more than 20 pounds and never showed until almost the 8th month, I can never gain weight and I wish I could.
I would rather live here (USA)and ante up my co-pay than get free health care and live in Cuba.
It seems as if Jane is trying to bash Angelina… actually not really. Angelina should bash Jane with her twin belly!
I don’t give a fiddler’s fart whether she’s getting unsolicited advice or not, and in spite of the posters who cannot put on weight – Angelina Jolie is NOT one of those people. She simply doesn’t EAT enough, which is fine and dandy unless you’re pregnant. Yes, it’s more harmful to be overweight, but come on people, the baby’s brain is affected by the mother’s diet. It doesn’t matter how wonderful Shiloh looks, you can’t always see the damage done by poor nutrition. Part of the point of weight gain is to be able to breastfeed. I’m always horrified by stick-thin pregnant women unless they are truly people who can’t put weight on. Sorry, not buying it in her case. I don’t think she can stand the idea of extra pounds – partly because of her profession and the people she is surrounded by.
Angelina deserves to stay in hospital stuck to that bed for the next three months. She would probably be pimping her self and her kids and trying to be all saintly after donating only 250k pounds. Poor Brad he must be lying in bed remembering the days he was carefree without a care in the world. Now he is stuck with a bedridden woman and a zillion kids. I want to be a fly on the wall or peek in his brain.
She doesn’t seem naturally thin to me, she seems like she starves herself to stay that way. Very few 33 year old women fail to put on weight naturally, not with that bone structure.
Orange, Shiloh seems to have a problem, how many expressions have you seen on her face?
“Shiloh seems to have a problem, how many expressions have you seen on her face?”
Well, if she’s reading this, her expressions would probably include amusement, puzzlement, a bit of eye-rolling, and probably concern for the strange people on the internet who say such ridiculously bizarre things about her and her family. 😯
I don’t get the concern w/ her weight – look at the header pic! She looks fine, very healthy. Unlike, say, Nicole Kidman and her pillow/botox baby, Angie looks seriously preggo.
And as for the Shiloh thing, Orange & M – for God’s sake, try sanity. If you hate Angelina, then just hate her. You don’t have to bring the kids into it.
As usual, something about someone else – Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman handing out medical advice – has deteriorated into a Brad and Angelina flamefest. Pitiful.
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Orangejulius is very right. I don’t know why celebitchy wants to bash Jane for giving her opinion and then write about it? They would have nothing to write about.
People have said that Brad and Tom like skinny women if their women want to get like that because of them that’s sad.
I doubt she is naturally very thin. I think she’s adapted herelf to each very little. You’ve only got to look at her in that movie Hackers. Her face was very chubby, not gaunt like it is now.
I’m surprised I’m not hearing the usual she was sad over loosing her mother here on this board that he fans always use.
If you look at Wanted that’s was last year, that’s how thin she was, this bit about her gaining weight then getting pregnant is fantasy.
Maybe they should have rethought the invitro.
She’s just skinny woman who is always trying to get pregnant. Brad should leave her alone and let her adopt if she wants.
And Nicole Kidman very tall,has always been naturally thin, and she had one child not twins.
Jane looks better than angelina. Certain people don’t like any type of negative opinions towards angelina, and get into defensive mode when it comes to angelina. Jane is not the first and won’t be the last to diss angelina about her appearance. Not everyone thinks angelina is the best thing on earth.
To me and many others the only time angelina looks healthy is during pregnancy and for some people it is a concern. I agree with jane and i think jane is not trying to be cruel, but might be sincere with concern for angelina’s health.
Countrybabe – yeah, her face was chubby in Hackers. She was eighteen. It’s called baby fat. Lots of teenagers have chubby faces, and thin out later.
And I did see Wanted. She was slender and lovely and she kicked ass convincingly. But what does that have to do with Jane “I wish I could get a job on a Lifetime movie” Seymour’s comments?
And Kidman is still very thin. She just removed the goddamn pillow.
Maybe it’s me but this website is weight obsessed.
Maybe it’s me but this website is weight obsessed.
-The whole country is weight obsessed, sue mac, and the constant media glare on celebrities and our insatiable appetites for news about them just fans the flames. Don’t fault CB for just reporting on the way things are.
Kaiser,
show some class and respect. Nicole just had a baby, not a pillow stop being ignorant.
Nick removed a pillow-what wacky fans Ange has. Kaiser please, Her face was much fuller in Mr and Mrs. Smith, Original Sin. It’s either she’s had work done on her face or her weight yo-yos. Which would you rather have. Her face was very gaunt in a year ago.
Her face was less chubby when she was younger.
Jane Seymour had twins too, that’s why she knew these things.
Most people start thin and get more weight on them with age.
If she becomes anorexic looking after she has these twins, maybe her fans will show concern rather than these denials, where they just talk about she kicked ass in movie. Wanted was just a movie, 83 pound woman beating people up honsetly.
We’ll she look as good as Jane at 44,57, don’t know Ange already looks 41.
The U.S. needs to mandate paid maternity leave for all working women.
Most U.S. companies only want to give pregnant women 2 weeks off when they have a baby – that is insane!
It IS true that Angelina is basically ALWAYS underweight…being pregnant with twins should NOT be taken lightly, especially with allegations Angelina’s concern for her babies (which should include herself, as she IS the mother of all of them). Seymour is just saying something that a lot of women are probably thinking and cannot express since they, themselves are not pregnant. I don’t think toxemia is all that uncommon, especially with twins. My mother had her life on the line when she was pregnant with me and my twin…also with toxemia.
If people really pay attention to how angelina looks in “wanted” she appears to be under weight. Her arms look like sticks.
So, if I get the gist of WTF/Countrybabe accusations, it’s that Angie is BAD BAD BAD for being thin last year, and people who point out that she seems to be having a healthy pregnancy are kidding themselves.
Then these hater(s) go on to defend Kidman, who was actually underweight during her “pregnancy”, to the point where she didn’t even look remotely pregnant. And not to mention all of the truly dangerous Botox that Kidman was injecting into her already-frozen face.
I just don’t get it.
Wow, does it really matter? People are going to say what they want about who they want. People have their opinions, granted some people remind me of TMZ when they state them. The comments about Nicole Kidman’s pregnancy are just funny. She is a tall woman so I am not at all surprised that she didn’t put on that much weight. The pillow remarks made me giggle just because I had never really heard someone say that before.
Many times when people comment sites like these they like to put something funny in. I do it, a lot. I just don’t understand how people get so worked up about topics like this. I’m not ignorant or anything like that in posting this. I just hate to see people get worked up about something that really isn’t a big deal. If you seriously want to start debating or what have you, go to a Hogan post.
My mom was thin before she got pregnant with me and my two other sisters and has did not put on very much weight during any of her pregnancies. My older is the same way and both my mom and sister had healthy pregnancies and healthy babies. To the people who say Angelina taken is her pregnancy lightly are HATES and must have a thing against thin people. Angelina takes being a mother very seriously she would do anything to make sure her kids are happy and healthy so I hightly doubt that she would put her unborn children health at risk to be thin. Angelina did not go to the opening do much promoting for her movie (Wanted) which some times can make or beak a movie because her doctor said it unhealthy for her and her unborn children to fly while she so fare along in her pregnancy.
P.S. To Kaiser/ Hippacrat my mom nor my sister look remotely pregnant until their last trimester.
FYI : Their are photos of Angelina Jolie in In Touch magazine just before she went in to the hospital and she looks like she gained a lot of weight.