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		<title>By: LILLY</title>
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		<description>He committed suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He committed suicide.
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		<title>By: Alyrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alyrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that all of the blame for not calling the ambulance can be placed on MK. The Masseuse could have just as easily called the ambulance. I understand the idea of wanting to see if anyone knew what happened, but it was not the time to do it, and most certainly not her job. Clearly, something was severely wrong with him. She should have thought &quot;ambulance. 911. he needs help.&quot; not, &quot;here, ill take the time to check his phone and call some teenager that probably wasnt even here...&quot; Sure, she could call her later, or maybe tip the police with a &quot;MK could possibly know what happened&quot;. There just was not enough effort put into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that all of the blame for not calling the ambulance can be placed on MK. The Masseuse could have just as easily called the ambulance. I understand the idea of wanting to see if anyone knew what happened, but it was not the time to do it, and most certainly not her job. Clearly, something was severely wrong with him. She should have thought &#8220;ambulance. 911. he needs help.&#8221; not, &#8220;here, ill take the time to check his phone and call some teenager that probably wasnt even here&#8230;&#8221; Sure, she could call her later, or maybe tip the police with a &#8220;MK could possibly know what happened&#8221;. There just was not enough effort put into it.
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		<title>By: czarina</title>
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		<dc:creator>czarina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethan; By that same logic, Michelle Williams should be even more accountable for Heath&#039;s death, as she lived with him and was close to him for years and knew exactly what he was doing. 
In fact, rumor has it, that is why she parted from him; because of his drug use.
If the woman he loved, the mother of his child, couldn&#039;t get him to stop abusing himself (not just using meds, but not sleeping or eating properly, etc.), than how is Mary Kate, of all his friends and family, singled out as the one who should have &quot;helped&quot; him?
Moreover, Heath was dead when the massuse arrived at his apartment--read the reports of his death and that is made clear.
Trying to blame a young woman for a grown man&#039;s bad choices and poor judgment is unfair. Also, accusing her of providing drugs to Heath Ledger, based on...what?...your own conviction that she did? is groundless speculation.
If facts come out to support such an accusation, that&#039;s one thing. But it could just as easily been dozens of other people Heath knew and hung out with.
Be reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethan; By that same logic, Michelle Williams should be even more accountable for Heath&#8217;s death, as she lived with him and was close to him for years and knew exactly what he was doing.<br />
In fact, rumor has it, that is why she parted from him; because of his drug use.<br />
If the woman he loved, the mother of his child, couldn&#8217;t get him to stop abusing himself (not just using meds, but not sleeping or eating properly, etc.), than how is Mary Kate, of all his friends and family, singled out as the one who should have &#8220;helped&#8221; him?<br />
Moreover, Heath was dead when the massuse arrived at his apartment&#8211;read the reports of his death and that is made clear.<br />
Trying to blame a young woman for a grown man&#8217;s bad choices and poor judgment is unfair. Also, accusing her of providing drugs to Heath Ledger, based on&#8230;what?&#8230;your own conviction that she did? is groundless speculation.<br />
If facts come out to support such an accusation, that&#8217;s one thing. But it could just as easily been dozens of other people Heath knew and hung out with.<br />
Be reasonable.
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		<title>By: sak0319</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although everyone here seems to think they know what happened, no one actually does. But from my knowledge of prescription drugs, and people close to me with problems....oxycontin can kill you the first time you take it. most people today are snorting it so it gets into your system faster, but a time released pill like that can be deadly. Also, abusing oxys has the same effects as heroine....resulting in respiratory problems. now im not saying that he was abusing, but if you look at the fda website it says that snorting one pill one time can kill you. and mk probably does have something to do with supplying the oxys to him, and since he died, its considered manslaughter...so completely understandable why shes asking for immunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although everyone here seems to think they know what happened, no one actually does. But from my knowledge of prescription drugs, and people close to me with problems&#8230;.oxycontin can kill you the first time you take it. most people today are snorting it so it gets into your system faster, but a time released pill like that can be deadly. Also, abusing oxys has the same effects as heroine&#8230;.resulting in respiratory problems. now im not saying that he was abusing, but if you look at the fda website it says that snorting one pill one time can kill you. and mk probably does have something to do with supplying the oxys to him, and since he died, its considered manslaughter&#8230;so completely understandable why shes asking for immunity.
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I agree- BOTH MK and the masseuse should be held accountable for failing to do the right thing and saving his life.

It is very hard to tell when exactly he died.
However, it is very clear that when you face a man not responding you should think about saving his life- not saving your reputation and clearing the scene.

Look, I know from friends in NYC that he took drugs. 

He was stoned many times they saw him.

I assume he mixed drugs, but it has nothing to do with suicide or his role in TDK.

Those are lame excuses that cost him his life.

It doesn&#039;t matter at all.

He could have been saved. Period.
 
She should not have given him drugs (and I mean drugs). That was why she sent a guy to clear the apartment- which is even worse- because the doctors couldn&#039;t even understand what happened.

Let&#039;s say the doctors got him on time but they need to understand how to treat him and they need the information regarding what he had taken.

MK - not only did she provide the drugs, and failed to call 911, she also made sure till this very day that the authorities and the family can&#039;t know what happened to him (=what did he use).

So the doctors didn&#039;t have the information to try to save him, the public cannot be warned about whatever he did that we should be warned- and she still cares about her publicity instead of more important things.

Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree- BOTH MK and the masseuse should be held accountable for failing to do the right thing and saving his life.</p>
<p>It is very hard to tell when exactly he died.<br />
However, it is very clear that when you face a man not responding you should think about saving his life- not saving your reputation and clearing the scene.</p>
<p>Look, I know from friends in NYC that he took drugs. </p>
<p>He was stoned many times they saw him.</p>
<p>I assume he mixed drugs, but it has nothing to do with suicide or his role in TDK.</p>
<p>Those are lame excuses that cost him his life.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter at all.</p>
<p>He could have been saved. Period.</p>
<p>She should not have given him drugs (and I mean drugs). That was why she sent a guy to clear the apartment- which is even worse- because the doctors couldn&#8217;t even understand what happened.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say the doctors got him on time but they need to understand how to treat him and they need the information regarding what he had taken.</p>
<p>MK &#8211; not only did she provide the drugs, and failed to call 911, she also made sure till this very day that the authorities and the family can&#8217;t know what happened to him (=what did he use).</p>
<p>So the doctors didn&#8217;t have the information to try to save him, the public cannot be warned about whatever he did that we should be warned- and she still cares about her publicity instead of more important things.</p>
<p>Unbelievable.
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		<title>By: Snowblood</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaundice Machine, bella that was an awesome post, beautifully writ &amp; I agree with you re: MK and Heath Ledger.

Oh! ( Um, and MK Olsen? If you&#039;re reading this right now, so how about it eh? Hook a sista up? please..? )
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaundice Machine, bella that was an awesome post, beautifully writ &amp; I agree with you re: MK and Heath Ledger.</p>
<p>Oh! ( Um, and MK Olsen? If you&#8217;re reading this right now, so how about it eh? Hook a sista up? please..? )
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		<title>By: Jaundice Machine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaundice Machine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 05:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Enn, I appreciate where you are coming from with your father-in-law, and I&#039;m sorry to hear of your loss.  I have a simular experience - and I&#039;ve taken enough psychology courses to realize that it definitely primes the way I look at this particular case.  My mother also overdosed . . . but it wasn&#039;t accidental.  

I honestly think that on some level Heath wasn&#039;t comfortable with who he was, or what he was doing with his life. (That&#039;s not a judgement call, just an observation.)  I don&#039;t think anyone but Heath will ever know for certain whether it was his intent to die that night, if he was experimenting subconsciously with a suicidal attempt, or if he was honestly trying to unwind after a particularly difficult day. And I think that his &lt;i&gt;mens rea&lt;/i&gt; is somewhat of a moot point, anyhow - at least in regards to Miss MK Olsen. 

Regardless, I don&#039;t think that he ought to be judged - none of us will ever know the events surrounding his untimely death.  Nor do I think MK ought to be held accountable for his death.  Whether or not his death was intentional, I doubt MK would have known that Heath would use Oxy as the final ingredient to his killer cocktail.  She isn&#039;t acting like a particularly suspicious individual simply because she contacted her lawyer. ( The primary suspect in my mother&#039;s death skipped town and changed his name, so I may be a bit biased.)  I think she was lending meds to a friend as a favor, completely unaware that he may be subconsciously suicidal, or at the least, a major health risk due to all the medications he&#039;s been prescribed.  It wasn&#039;t malicious, and I don&#039;t think she needs to be punished for it.  If she was remotely close to Heath, she&#039;s suffered enough as it is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Enn, I appreciate where you are coming from with your father-in-law, and I&#8217;m sorry to hear of your loss.  I have a simular experience &#8211; and I&#8217;ve taken enough psychology courses to realize that it definitely primes the way I look at this particular case.  My mother also overdosed . . . but it wasn&#8217;t accidental.  </p>
<p>I honestly think that on some level Heath wasn&#8217;t comfortable with who he was, or what he was doing with his life. (That&#8217;s not a judgement call, just an observation.)  I don&#8217;t think anyone but Heath will ever know for certain whether it was his intent to die that night, if he was experimenting subconsciously with a suicidal attempt, or if he was honestly trying to unwind after a particularly difficult day. And I think that his <i>mens rea</i> is somewhat of a moot point, anyhow &#8211; at least in regards to Miss MK Olsen. </p>
<p>Regardless, I don&#8217;t think that he ought to be judged &#8211; none of us will ever know the events surrounding his untimely death.  Nor do I think MK ought to be held accountable for his death.  Whether or not his death was intentional, I doubt MK would have known that Heath would use Oxy as the final ingredient to his killer cocktail.  She isn&#8217;t acting like a particularly suspicious individual simply because she contacted her lawyer. ( The primary suspect in my mother&#8217;s death skipped town and changed his name, so I may be a bit biased.)  I think she was lending meds to a friend as a favor, completely unaware that he may be subconsciously suicidal, or at the least, a major health risk due to all the medications he&#8217;s been prescribed.  It wasn&#8217;t malicious, and I don&#8217;t think she needs to be punished for it.  If she was remotely close to Heath, she&#8217;s suffered enough as it is.
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		<title>By: Snowblood</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooo! I want a chocolate-covered scone... and is MK around? Wondering if she could hook me up with an 80 milly Oxy; my back, as usual, is killing me and I&#039;ve been out of my meds for too long. Hey, MK! Hook a sista up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooo! I want a chocolate-covered scone&#8230; and is MK around? Wondering if she could hook me up with an 80 milly Oxy; my back, as usual, is killing me and I&#8217;ve been out of my meds for too long. Hey, MK! Hook a sista up!
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		<title>By: xiaoecho</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin and Scott.......we call cookies biscuits in Oz.  What Americans call biscuits, we call scones  :D 

come to think of it?....chocolate coated scones....yum </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin and Scott&#8230;&#8230;.we call cookies biscuits in Oz.  What Americans call biscuits, we call scones  <img src='http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>come to think of it?&#8230;.chocolate coated scones&#8230;.yum
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		<title>By: czarina</title>
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		<description>The problem with this article, is that it&#039;s inflammatory and unspecific.
Read it again. 
It&#039;s all innuendos, the way the author has put it together. 
What does MK need immunity for?
It&#039;s implied (by the next paragraph talking about who gave Heath the drugs) that she wants immunity for being involved in giving them to him. 
But it could be something much more simple, like failing to disclose that she knew Heath was recieving prescription meds not quite legally.
(I work in a legal office, and believe me there are a few thousand shades of gray to something like this.)
That said, I&#039;m not blindly defending MK--she may very well have either provided drugs or knows the name of who provided them. I&#039;m just saying, don&#039;t buy into that article hook, line and sinker, because it sounds like the type of piece that is edited for maximum scandal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with this article, is that it&#8217;s inflammatory and unspecific.<br />
Read it again.<br />
It&#8217;s all innuendos, the way the author has put it together.<br />
What does MK need immunity for?<br />
It&#8217;s implied (by the next paragraph talking about who gave Heath the drugs) that she wants immunity for being involved in giving them to him.<br />
But it could be something much more simple, like failing to disclose that she knew Heath was recieving prescription meds not quite legally.<br />
(I work in a legal office, and believe me there are a few thousand shades of gray to something like this.)<br />
That said, I&#8217;m not blindly defending MK&#8211;she may very well have either provided drugs or knows the name of who provided them. I&#8217;m just saying, don&#8217;t buy into that article hook, line and sinker, because it sounds like the type of piece that is edited for maximum scandal.
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