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People gripe about it when it happens to them, but it exists for a very good reason. How many people have managed to run out on serious charges because they were able to make bail?

Roman Polanski much? That child molester is still living openly in France, out of the reach of justice because he’s rich and from Hollywood, and thus above the law. It’s stuff like that which was the impetus behind such liberal contempt laws. Especially in civil cases, where they’re even more likely to take their money and try to run.

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It’s because they are willfully making it so that the justice system cannot perform its duty. The reason one judge has this power is because its a) civil suit (no juries) and b) people have to have some “fear” of the law for it to work. Knowing this law you’re not going to blow off a court appearance, are you? No. The law did its job. Justice runs its course. The End.

He has no Habeus Corpus claim because he was in jail for contempt. No trials for contempt. You’re bad. Go to jail now, do not pass go, do not collect $200. He DID break the law and in that law it states that the penalty for contempt is as the judge sees fit. 18 months (or the time it took to either settle or have the trial go through) seemed fit to her. She was smart enough to know he’d run off again, like he did after he was served with the original complaint in FL.

The reason he was imprisioned was because he is so arrogant. He left once because he has no respect for the law. Why would he suddenly choose to obey? He thinks his money makes him above that law. They were trying to teach him (and Paris, and LL, and you and me) a lesson. You and I got it. He didn’t.

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I can’t understand how one judge gets to wield THAT much power over a detainee, or defendant. I’d never heard of Contempt of Court being such an extreme thing, I thought it was just, like, you know – don’t piss off the judge, or he’ll make you pay his court a big fat fine and suspend you from being able to say anything anymore for the remainder of that particular day. Not hold them in jail indefinitely and without bond, appeals, attorneys or anything.

That’s- what about Habeus Corpus, could someone in Francis’ position have had the option to file a Writ of Habeus Corpus if a judge was holding him indefinitely and suspending all his rights to a speedy trial and a lawyer and everything?

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The reason that that is part of the federal penal code is because even though the US is a nation, each state has its own laws and does not have to listen to the demands of the courts of another state. This goes into extradition, and it can get very ugly sometimes. Basically, the idea is that people who are residents of state A can’t just go to state B, kill/rape/murder/steal/give testimony/etc. and get away with it because they can’t be served with their charges because they never went back to state B. It’s basic civil procedure, and the Supreme Court spends a lot of time dealing with it. It gets messy.

He does have a point that it was unfair to keep him in jail for that long, but the relationship of the judge to the lawyers isn’t anything to make a big deal about. The legal community is VERY small. Everyone has worked with or went to school with someone, and if they are successful and have similar goals, that community is even smaller. HOWEVER, he was being a jerk. He had been advised to not go to FL because he would be arrested. He thought he was rich enough to skirt the law. Judges REALLY don’t like people who do that. They will yell at attorneys who are rude to their clerk. Nevermind what they think about people who blatantly have no regard for the law and its process. I’d have done the same thing.

How is this related to freedom of speech by the way? He makes drunk girl tapes. Okay. People may not like it, but it’s not illegal, and no one ever said it was. It’s the use of underage girls! And if he really did care about what the law prescribes and didn’t think he was above it, he’d put more effort into making sure the girls were 18. Easy solution.

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I’m one of the newer chicks around here; I’ve been reading the site for ages but only just started commenting over the last month or so. Now I’m hopelessly addicted, and especially since there’s a great number of cool women (and even a few guys!) who chill here regularly.

Oh, and you’ve got “bad bad habits,” too? We’re gonna get along like sisters from another mister, then, I can already tell!

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