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		<title>By: GoGo LaTata</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#13: WOW! I actually used to watch AW with my mom back in the day and I always loved the Vicki/Marley storyline. I never knew it was Anne. I thought her acting was actually very good (c&#039;mon I was what? 10?) -- and she was very pretty. Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#13: WOW! I actually used to watch AW with my mom back in the day and I always loved the Vicki/Marley storyline. I never knew it was Anne. I thought her acting was actually very good (c&#8217;mon I was what? 10?) &#8212; and she was very pretty. Thanks for the info.
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		<title>By: Kristin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh don&#039;t think anyone reads my posts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh don&#8217;t think anyone reads my posts
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		<title>By: Orangejulius</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 05:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no Aspen.  It was interesting.  And, Snowy (if I may call you that) that was very interesting. Who knew?  Kinda explains a few things.  Reminds me a little bit of the teacher who married her REALLy young student (after spending time in jail for molesting him).  Her father had done something similar.  Our hardwiring upstairs is pretty complicated sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no Aspen.  It was interesting.  And, Snowy (if I may call you that) that was very interesting. Who knew?  Kinda explains a few things.  Reminds me a little bit of the teacher who married her REALLy young student (after spending time in jail for molesting him).  Her father had done something similar.  Our hardwiring upstairs is pretty complicated sometimes.
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		<title>By: Shane</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 02:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ellen and Portia:  Please don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ellen and Portia:  Please don&#8217;t.
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		<title>By: Aspen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing hollow or phony about people marrying BEFORE getting serious about children.  Are you kidding?

What is wrong with people when we have a society that actually looks DOWN on people who want their children to have the benefit and stability of marriage.  It has honestly devolved so far that unless a new mother is a single lesbian career woman working 80 hours per week and conceiving via artificial insemination because she &quot;needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle,&quot; then...people want to throw rocks and make a lady feel bad for wanting babies in a traditional setting.

I applaud ANY couple with the sense and foresight and self-realization and MATURITY to wait to have children until the relationship has become marriage and until the marriage is well-established.  There isn&#039;t anything even remotely shallow or phony or plastic about such motives.  There isn&#039;t anything abnormal about discovering a desire to have kids after marrying, either.  It&#039;s natural.  For all our protests, it&#039;s a biological fact that women feel an urge to couple and procreate.  Some women are repulsed by children and motherhood...sure.  Other women want careers and wait...and then find they&#039;ve waited too long and no longer wish to procreate.  But any woman who claims she&#039;s never &quot;felt it&quot; even one time by the age of 40 is either in some serious armpit-deep denial or she&#039;s a bald-face liar.

What these lovely celebrity newlywed women (Ellen and Portia) ARE...is women who know what&#039;s best and CARE what&#039;s best for their kids instead of caring first about making some sort of &quot;I&#039;m independent and don&#039;t have to follow convention&quot; mindset in order to be considered whole, valid, or deep people.  Just because they didn&#039;t jump into raptures about wanting to have kids together until after the wedding doesn&#039;t mean they never talked about it in private...and it&#039;s perfectly understandable that they would be thinking about it more seriously now.

LOL...wanting kids after marriage is hollow and phony...OMG.  That&#039;s just so out there, I can&#039;t even put myself in that place.

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Guys, I&#039;m sorry I&#039;m always so long-winded.  Just skip my crap if you don&#039;t want to read a long one.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing hollow or phony about people marrying BEFORE getting serious about children.  Are you kidding?</p>
<p>What is wrong with people when we have a society that actually looks DOWN on people who want their children to have the benefit and stability of marriage.  It has honestly devolved so far that unless a new mother is a single lesbian career woman working 80 hours per week and conceiving via artificial insemination because she &#8220;needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle,&#8221; then&#8230;people want to throw rocks and make a lady feel bad for wanting babies in a traditional setting.</p>
<p>I applaud ANY couple with the sense and foresight and self-realization and MATURITY to wait to have children until the relationship has become marriage and until the marriage is well-established.  There isn&#8217;t anything even remotely shallow or phony or plastic about such motives.  There isn&#8217;t anything abnormal about discovering a desire to have kids after marrying, either.  It&#8217;s natural.  For all our protests, it&#8217;s a biological fact that women feel an urge to couple and procreate.  Some women are repulsed by children and motherhood&#8230;sure.  Other women want careers and wait&#8230;and then find they&#8217;ve waited too long and no longer wish to procreate.  But any woman who claims she&#8217;s never &#8220;felt it&#8221; even one time by the age of 40 is either in some serious armpit-deep denial or she&#8217;s a bald-face liar.</p>
<p>What these lovely celebrity newlywed women (Ellen and Portia) ARE&#8230;is women who know what&#8217;s best and CARE what&#8217;s best for their kids instead of caring first about making some sort of &#8220;I&#8217;m independent and don&#8217;t have to follow convention&#8221; mindset in order to be considered whole, valid, or deep people.  Just because they didn&#8217;t jump into raptures about wanting to have kids together until after the wedding doesn&#8217;t mean they never talked about it in private&#8230;and it&#8217;s perfectly understandable that they would be thinking about it more seriously now.</p>
<p>LOL&#8230;wanting kids after marriage is hollow and phony&#8230;OMG.  That&#8217;s just so out there, I can&#8217;t even put myself in that place.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: Snowblood</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I googled &#039;Anne Heche biography&#039; and found out, Nan - and it is fukking FASCinating!!! This is something, here, check it out - 

&quot; Born in the small town of Aurora, OH, on May 25, 1969, Heche was raised as part of a fundamentalist Christian family. Her father, an itinerant choir director, was constantly running from both debt and his immediate family; the former was due to his lack of a steady job and the latter to his secret life as a gay man. 

Both conditions resulted in a tumultuous childhood for Heche, who began performing in dinner theatre at the age of 12 to help pay her family&#039;s bills. Her life changed dramatically when she was 13 and her father died of AIDS, something that revealed his other identity and confounded Heche&#039;s entire family. 

Compounding the tragedy was her brother&#039;s death in a car accident just months later; following this double blow, Heche lived with her mother in Chicago and kept acting to help pay the rent. 

When she was 17, she moved to New York and was cast as identical twins on the long-running soap opera Another World; Heche stayed with the show through 1991, earning a Daytime Emmy Award for her work in the process. &quot;

SOURCE: http://allstars-online.net/Hechebio.html

Is that a trip, or what? Extremely interesting background &amp; start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I googled &#8216;Anne Heche biography&#8217; and found out, Nan &#8211; and it is fukking FASCinating!!! This is something, here, check it out &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8221; Born in the small town of Aurora, OH, on May 25, 1969, Heche was raised as part of a fundamentalist Christian family. Her father, an itinerant choir director, was constantly running from both debt and his immediate family; the former was due to his lack of a steady job and the latter to his secret life as a gay man. </p>
<p>Both conditions resulted in a tumultuous childhood for Heche, who began performing in dinner theatre at the age of 12 to help pay her family&#8217;s bills. Her life changed dramatically when she was 13 and her father died of AIDS, something that revealed his other identity and confounded Heche&#8217;s entire family. </p>
<p>Compounding the tragedy was her brother&#8217;s death in a car accident just months later; following this double blow, Heche lived with her mother in Chicago and kept acting to help pay the rent. </p>
<p>When she was 17, she moved to New York and was cast as identical twins on the long-running soap opera Another World; Heche stayed with the show through 1991, earning a Daytime Emmy Award for her work in the process. &#8221;</p>
<p>SOURCE: <a href="http://allstars-online.net/Hechebio.html" rel="nofollow">http://allstars-online.net/Hechebio.html</a></p>
<p>Is that a trip, or what? Extremely interesting background &amp; start.
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should start taking in foster children who are looking for a loving home...then make it permanent. Good luck to Ellen. She deserves to be happy a/what that flake Anne Heche has done to her. 

BTW, how did Heche ever get her foot in the door in this industry? Does anyone know? How?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should start taking in foster children who are looking for a loving home&#8230;then make it permanent. Good luck to Ellen. She deserves to be happy a/what that flake Anne Heche has done to her. </p>
<p>BTW, how did Heche ever get her foot in the door in this industry? Does anyone know? How?
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		<title>By: oxa</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kids change yr life and not always for the better. Theyy have plenty of time to think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kids change yr life and not always for the better. Theyy have plenty of time to think about it.
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		<title>By: Aud</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 21:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I can tipe reel gud today.  Hate being on a computer where I cant edit my posts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I can tipe reel gud today.  Hate being on a computer where I cant edit my posts!
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		<title>By: Aud</title>
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		<description>Kaiser has a point I&#039;d forgotten about.  Oddly tho, I still dont feel like homewrecker bashing these 2.  Not sure why, but I think its cuz they appear to have halfway decent morals everywhere else, and no one&#039;s perfect. 

Its also nice seeing a gay couple so publicly open.  We have a high rate of gay/bi here, but the area is also largely conservative because its mostly mennonite/amish.  So even tho &quot;somg anarky rebel&quot; kids aren&#039;t public about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaiser has a point I&#8217;d forgotten about.  Oddly tho, I still dont feel like homewrecker bashing these 2.  Not sure why, but I think its cuz they appear to have halfway decent morals everywhere else, and no one&#8217;s perfect. </p>
<p>Its also nice seeing a gay couple so publicly open.  We have a high rate of gay/bi here, but the area is also largely conservative because its mostly mennonite/amish.  So even tho &#8220;somg anarky rebel&#8221; kids aren&#8217;t public about it.
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