Mel Gibson’s first extensive, self-pitying interview since Oksana scandal

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Mel Gibson has done his first interview since Radar released the audio recordings made by Oksana Grigorieva, in which recording after recording featured Mel, in various stages of inebriation, rage and depression, verbally abusing Oksana in racist, profanity-laced rants. The tapes also featured a “confession” by Mel that he had in fact hit Oksana – “You deserved it,” he told her. Mel hasn’t given any kind of interview since months before that went down – it’s probably been 15-16 months since he’s said anything, unless you count strategic leaks from his lawyers to TMZ (I don’t).

So, Mel is likely contractually obligated to do some promotional work for The Beaver, so he sat down for an interview with Deadline. The interviewer makes note that Mel was accommodating – “There were no pre-set conditions, no topic off limits, and no ground rules. This is just Mel being Mel. I found him to be funny but also melancholy, occasionally brazen and often abashed.” The piece is really long, and you can read the full thing here, at Deadline. Here are some highlights:

On the tapes: “I was angry at me. But, no one expressed any anger at me. They may have felt it. Of course [I regret it]. [Looks at the ceiling and shakes his head and sighs] Who anticipates being recorded? Who anticipates that? Who could anticipate such a personal betrayal?

On charges that he’s a racist and a misogynist: “I’ve never treated anyone badly or in a discriminatory way based on their gender, race, religion or sexuality — period. I don’t blame some people for thinking that though, from the garbage they heard on those leaked tapes, which have been edited. You have to put it all in the proper context of being in an irrationally, heated discussion at the height of a breakdown, trying to get out of a really unhealthy relationship. It’s one terribly, awful moment in time, said to one person, in the span of one day and doesn’t represent what I truly believe or how I’ve treated people my entire life.”

On his future as an actor: “I don’t care if I don’t act anymore. It really is true. I’m beyond that, way beyond that. The whole experience has been most unfortunate. And so it’s not without all the downside. I could easily not act again. It’s not a problem. I’m going to do something now because I want to do it and because it’s fun. I’ve already pulled another job and it’s going to be fun. I don’t know if it’s going to get off the ground, but I’m going to go work for [Best Picture Oscar winner Braveheart’s screenwriter] Randy Wallace again. He’s got this script and he’s had it for years. He wrote some book and he’s adapted it to a script. And it’s almost like Alexander Dumas — like that swashbuckler kind of stuff. It’s total bodice-ripping swashbuckling stuff, but it’s funny. It’s funny and yet it’s got really good serious undertones too. Randy writes a decent script. And I responded to it right away. I thought this is hilarious. I’ve got to do this. And I’m not the main guy in the film — which is great.

On being hired and then fired from a cameo in The Hangover II: “You have to let that go. I sat here and talked to [director] Todd [Phillips] about it. I like Todd. How could you not like Todd? He’s smart and he’s gifted and so are the other people in the film. It’s okay. You just have to let that go. It shows you a few things. You just move on and go okay. I’m not greatly offended by it. It seemed like a good idea at the time and it went south.

On compartmentalizing: “You have to. There are a lot of people depending on you. There are deadlines to meet and fiscal responsibilities. There are the basics of supporting yourself and those who depend on you and those commitments that you have to co-workers.”

On Whoopi Goldberg: I knew Whoopi before she was Whoopi. And, as she’s great and I always liked her and loved her. I like her even more now because she got it. I know [she got a lot of flak]. I love her for it.”

On very few people defending him: “That doesn’t bother me. Why would anyone want to speak publicly and drag themselves through this crap? It seems to add fuel to the fire. Very many people are supportive, of course, but you find out who your friends are. I have many friends and they’ve been great.”

On deciding to do The Beaver: “It was something different and it was also Jodie. I’d give her a pedicure every day of the week if I could. We met on Maverick many years ago. I realized that one has a perception — everyone gets preconceptions. She totally surprised me. I knew she was bright, so that didn’t surprise me. She was really bright. And she was pragmatic and extremely sensitive and a good heart, a real good heart. So how could you not become friends? We became fast friends and we maintained that over the years. We’ve both had our different little journeys. It’s untraditional. But there are a lot of things we have in common. I can empathize with her. From four years of age, she’s been out there. And it’s not that for me, but almost, because I was a baby when I started. I was probably more developmentally arrested at the age of 21 than she was at four. [Laughs] You couldn’t get two people who are more diametrically opposed on everything that they think about religion and politics than what we do. But there is a core of goodness there that’s undeniable and I just love her.”

On politics: “Nobody is the same. The whole notion of politics is they always present you with this or this or this. I’ll get a newspaper to read between the lines. Why do you have to adhere to prescribed formulas that they have and people argue over them and they’re all in a box. And you watch Fox claw CNN, and CNN claw Fox. Sometimes I catch a piece of the news and it seems insanity to me. I quietly support candidates. I’m not out there banging a drum for candidates. But I have supported a candidate and it’s a whole other world. Once you’ve been exposed to it, once or twice or however many times, if you know the facts and see how they’re presented, it’s mind-boggling. It’s a very scary arena to be in, but I do vote. I go in there and pull the lever. It’s kind of like pulling the lever and watching the trap door fall out from beneath you. Why should we trust any of these people? None of them ever deliver on anything. It’s always disappointing.”

On his private relationships: “It’s nobody’s business. It really isn’t. Why is it? Why is it anyone’s business? I think it detracts from my business. It’s a change. And why is that of interest to anyone? It always baffles me. Why is that of interest to anyone? If people understood how mundane my life really is. You’re sort of thinking, who cares? It’s staggering. It’s a surprise to me. It’s just a life.”

On how the tape scandal affected his family: The main thing is that it was terribly humiliating and painful for my family, all my kids… Yeah, we spoke. And I had to speak to them with everyone but my youngest who is blissfully unaware, thank God. Well, she may be aware of it one day, and at that time, I guess I’ll just address that. I spent thirty years keeping them away from this kind of thing and I was quite successful. So why should I start now dragging them through that stuff? You try to manage that.

On being able to go out: Yeah, it happens sometimes. You ain’t seen much of me recently. It’s doable. Yeah, I go out. I do what I need to do. Life goes on. It’s part of your job to be out there. But there are aspects that you don’t necessarily want and sometimes they are completely unavoidable. You get blindsided and try to deal with it in a pragmatic way.

[From Deadline]

Do you buy that all of the tapes were recorded on one day? I don’t. And it didn’t sound like Mel was the one who was trying to get out of the relationship, either. It sounded like he was ordering his property (Oksana) to come back to him so he could yell at her face to face. Mel spoke more about Oksana in a back and forth I found interesting:

WEINER: Before the tapes were leaked on line, you’d reached a $16 million settlement agreement with Oksana, right?
GIBSON: I can’t really talk about that.

WEINER: Well, it has been reported that you reached a $16 million dollar settlement with Oksana and she signed the agreement. And then, shortly after agreeing to the settlement, she rejected it and the tapes were leaked to RadarOnline only days later. [Gibson says nothing.] So, when did you first find out that tapes had been made of your private conversations?
GIBSON: I really can’t talk about this stuff. It’s all kind of … There are a lot of things pending, custody and all kinds of things that I can’t even go into. Put it this way, for the sake of my daughter and the rest of my children, I really can’t talk about this. There are all sorts of legal things pending.

WEINER: What are you dealing with in terms of legal things?
GIBSON: Everybody has a dog in the fight but me, oddly enough. I haven’t got a lawsuit out on anyone because I think it’s extremely… You have to think about your children. That’s all there is to it. I can’t really discuss this. There are a lot of delicate and sensitive issues and I don’t want to be the cause of grief to any of my children or to friends or family or associates on either side because it’s a matter that should be dealt with. It’s important to me that it’s dealt with correctly and it’s important that I maintain my integrity through this for the sake of those I love. So speaking about it is just not on and apart from anything else, I’m prohibited by court order. Now, the system is flawed as we know, but you’ve got to ride with that. I think that it will all eventually come out in the wash and I’m depending on that. I have a lot of faith in that. Even though any organization, anybody, will always be flawed or not perfect in many ways. But at the end of the day, they’re trying to work in a fashion that achieves some kind of justice. I’m going to hook my hitch onto that and follow that through. Perhaps some time I will go on and comment in a more full way. But even if the judge hadn’t put some kind of court order on me, I think I’d stay mum on a lot of these things just out of consideration for Lucia and my other children and my grandchildren and friends and family. It doesn’t do any good. Maybe, when this is all over and hopefully, justice is achieved. Maybe I could say something. But I’d never want to leave anything lying around that would… a lot of damage has been done. I don’t want to add to it.

WEINER: Let’s talk about what you plead to in court regarding allegations that you hit Grigorieva.
GIBSON: I was allowed to end the case and still maintain my innocence. It’s called a West plea and it’s not something that prosecutors normally allow. But in my case, the prosecutors and the judge agreed that it was the right thing to do. I could have continued to fight this for years and it probably would have come out fine. But I ended it for my children and my family. This was going to be such a circus. You don’t drag other people in your life through this sewer needlessly, so I’ll take the hit and move on.

[From Deadline]

…What? Mel had to give a sworn statement to the court where he admitted slapping Oksana. Yes, he had an “explanation” for why he slapped her (one that didn’t make much sense, and by the way, ALL beaters have “explanations” for why they hit women), but it’s still on the record. The idea that Mel basically went to court and pled no contest (as opposed to guilty or not guilty) for the sake of his family… well, I tend to think he’s full of it. You know, horse manure. But whatever.

Oh, and if you want to have a rage stroke, go and read the comments on Deadline. They’re worse than the TMZ comments. Ridic.

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  1. Brittney says:

    I really appreciate the way you’ve always handled this topic; I can’t even stomach any other site’s “interpretations.” Abuse is abuse, period, and anyone familiar with the dynamics of an abusive relationship would stop making excuses for what he did. There’s no way to edit that much hatred, bigotry and misogyny into anyone’s phone conversations. Just no way.

  2. David says:

    I don’t care, he is still a shit head.

  3. Faye says:

    Shame he didn’t think about causing damage and pain to his family before he ran off and had a baby with Oksana. Or before he slapped her around. Or said horrible things (which he tries to make it sound like were deliberately edited to make him sound bad, but I’m not sure his racial slur rape comment could be taken in any other way) to the mother of his little baby.

    Haven’t heard much from Oksana lately. I’m ok with that.

  4. dorothy says:

    Will never look at him the same again.

  5. Brittney says:

    Also: “my youngest who is blissfully unaware”?!?

    You beat her mother in front of her. Shut up.

  6. mln76 says:

    Really gross man, very sad and frightening the way that the media is so eager to forgive Chris Brown & Mel Gibson and make a joke out of Charlie Sheen’s abusive behavior.

  7. P.M. says:

    This whole thing made me wonder how many other women there were over the years he treated the same way but didn’t get busted for. Oksana may be a golddigger but she was smart enough to get proof and bust his ass.

  8. Mrs Odie 2 says:

    Famous powerful men are just as stupid as any 15 year old boy when they start thinking with their penises. He should have had Oksana sign a confidentiality agreement before he started their affair. Not blaming her. He’s a dick, no question.

  9. LadyBert62 says:

    I will never ever ever forgive Mel Gibson for ruining Braveheart for me with his real persona coming through! And I will never ever ever buy another movie that he has made no matter how much my husband begs, barters and pleads! Mel Gibson is the same as garbage in our house now hubby and dont forget it!

  10. You don't say says:

    I do believe it is possible to achieve redemption and people should be given second chances.

    HOWEVER, first the person must admit to wrong doing, apologize sincerely and beg for forgiveness. He is talking because he has a movie to promote and wants to make money, not because he is sorry. I don’t buy the poor, poor pitiful me routine.

    Like the other jerks who beat up women, make racist, anti-Semetic and other nasty remarks while being “angry, drunk and/or under the influence of drugs” are being “forgiven” by many in the press for being willing to give them interviews. Of course they are going to come across as “nice and calm” under those circumstances. It just stinks!!

  11. malachais says:

    I think he is being honest, although Mel seems to be in some sort of denial on certain aspects. Hopefully he is able to work through all of his mental/anger problems before getting into another relationship.

  12. sapphire says:

    He should simply crawl back under the rock where he’s been hiding.

  13. Crash2GO2 says:

    HAHAHAHA!!!

    His reply to being asked about his recorded threats to Oksana: “Who anticipates being recorded? Who could anticipate such a personal betrayal?

    And it wasn’t a personal betrayal to tell her you were going to bury her in the rose garden?? Go tell it to some other schmuck you f*cking dickhead!

  14. JenJen says:

    He called Oksana’s son family. I have yet to hear him make an apology to him and wasn’t he said to have been in the room when he hit his mother?

  15. Jaded says:

    Mel states that he wants to protect his family from all the ugly media hype surrounding his nuclear melt-down with Oksana. I’m sorry but he’s been a huge boozer, philanderer, fighter and all-round obnoxious guy all his adult life. It’s his family who appear to have stuck their heads in the sand and swept his trangressions under the carpet, especially his ex-wife. He also hides behind his whackdoodle religion and expects to be automatically forgiven all his sins by virtue of his faith. He is what he is – a cranky, foul-mouthed, misogynistic, arrogant racist and no amount of whitewashing from his good friends can change that perception.

  16. Hakura says:

    @Mel Quote“Who anticipates being recorded? Who anticipates that? Who could anticipate such a personal betrayal?”

    … Oh. So out of everything that’s happened… It’s Oksana who betrayed him. I don’t know, I’d say racial & antisemitic epithets & physical violence sort of trump audio recordings of drunken emotional abuse in regards to betrayal.

    @Mel Re: Racist“You have to put it all in the proper context of being in an irrationally, heated discussion at the height of a breakdown, trying to get out of a really unhealthy relationship.”

    God, will the excuses never end?

    I know I don’t like the guy, & I’m going to be quick to jump on *anything* he says, but come on. He’s a fucking ass.

  17. Vicky says:

    To have Oksana pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, pocking at ya, I’d snap to.

    That being said–yeah he is a little crazy and you should never hit.

  18. OXA says:

    ROFLMAO, what integrity did he have?
    He screwed around on his family thruout his marriage.

  19. original kate says:

    fail.

  20. susieqinBA says:

    He is such a liar; all I can say is that he is going to get slapped in the face with something that is going to be exposed!

    He never treated anyone badly????? He didn’t treat Oks badly or his wife/kids with the affairs he’s had for years.

    The tapes are authentic and he says they’re edited – there’s the PROOF Mel and you said it on one of the tapes “I can’t get like this anymore!” and what came out of your mouth is what is in your heart! The tapes are proof you are an insane lunatic!

    You ended the court thing ONLY BECAUSE Sasha was going to testify and it would drag your other kids into court forcing them to testify and revealing “secrets” and the tape are AUTHENTIC.

  21. SolitaryAngel says:

    @LadyBert62: Looks like we’re the only 2 on here so far who is stalwartly boycotting everything of his. When this was all happening, my son mentioned wanting to watch a film of his and after I explained what was going on and why nothing with that man’s name on it was EVER coming into the house again (played part of one of the tapes for him), he’s on the same page now.

    And yeah, sure this interview sounds good but he’s still lying, denying and equivocating.

  22. Crash2GO2 says:

    @SolitaryAngel: “Looks like we’re the only 2 on here so far who is stalwartly boycotting everything of his.”

    Excuse me? What on earth brought you to that conclusion? Just because I don’t post that disclaimer on every comment I make in one of his threads?

    Strange.

  23. Ruffian9 says:

    Thank god for sanity and CB commenters. I was almost afraid to scroll down this article and read multiple comments from ‘Team Mel’ apologists, because I don’t want to feel stabby today. Original kate summed it up nicely. Mel, you’re still a hateful sack of bile. Nothing has changed.

  24. Eve says:

    Yes, Mel…you’re an angel*.

    *No, not really: you’re an asshole, asshole, asshole! A lying, cowardly asshole.

    And Kaiser, I will never check comments about this asshole (I repeat, asshole) other than on Celebitchy again. Because it’s not only a rage stroke I may have if I visit any other site, it’s the fact I think my teeth may actually explode upon (the sight of such comments).

  25. DetRiotgirl says:

    I wish I could somehow take this douche out of Disney’s Pocahontas. That’s the only Mel Gibson movie I’ve ever purchased, and I love it too much to ban it from my house just because of Mad Mel.

    Other than that though, I won’t allow anything this lunatic is a part of into my movie collection. I also always give his movies one star when I run across them on my Netflix instant queue. My boyfriend always makes a pleading face when he sees Mad Max pop up with such a low rating. But, I just throw my best bitch face on and sternly explain “it stays!”.

  26. tomas says:

    PATHOLOGICAL LIAR. RACIST. HOMOPHOBIC. ANTI-SEMETIC. WOMAN-BEATING. PIG.

  27. Shy says:

    Yeah, those Deadline comments… They crack me up too. It’s like all those losers from TMZ went straight to Deadline. Those crazy people. He has like 200 hundred so called fans. And they sit thole days on TMZ and praise, defend, and praise Gibson…. And when Deadline wrotes something – they all run to Deadline to comment.

    And I’m sure that 70% of them didn’t care about Gibson at all until those tapes went public 🙂

    And the most funny thing is how Deadline then rates public opinion based on those crazy commenters. I remember last time they wrote something like: “As our comments section showed – most people are ready to forgive Mal”…. Something like that.

    Those MelTards are like the crazier version of Twihards. At least Twihards have an excuse. They just like how Pattinson looks. We all had Idols we adored when we were teens. But those MelTards are just simply crazy. No excuse. And they can even bring God and Jesus to defend Gibson. One sad: “Jesus and I forgive you…” Speak for yourself idiot…

  28. VD says:

    This interview is such incredible BS.Stop lying Mel! Except of your crazy delusional fans nobody will believe you!

  29. Hmmm says:

    What @tomas said.

    Mel talks the common double-speak of typical hate filled abuser. Cry me a river.

  30. Peg says:

    “my youngest who is blissfully unaware, thank God.”

    That’s the one that Oksana had in her arms when he smacked her, right?

    This guy is no good.

    I wouldn’t watch anything of his if I was paid!

  31. Debbie says:

    According to the latest interview by Oxanity She said the tapes were not edited.

    But she said on Larry King live and other interviews she edited the tapes herself

    So yet another differing story from her, I hope Mel and his family can move on from this saga.

    Debbie

  32. Hana says:

    Gibson is a disgusting liar. I hate him after this interview even more.

  33. susieqinBA says:

    Law enforcement professionals said the tapes are authentic and admissible in court and it is Gibson’s voice on the tapes. The tapes were not edited! In my opinion if Mel’s lawyer thought she could win his “innocence” she would not have been fighting so hard for a plea deal. If you’re innocent you plea NOT GUILTY and not wear a disguise to hide in public!

    The tapes are not a “lovers quarrel” they reveal a man with serious psychological/mental issues, obsessive control freak, that have been there for a long time. He will never be able to have a healthy relationship with anyone because he will go into a rage when confronted with the truth and his “good image” is threatned. And I believe this is how he has been all of his life, “I am not to be judged or corrected”. His HEART is evil and that is the TRUE man he is.

  34. Ts says:

    He’s a hateful jerk who has had rage issues against women & jews that have been documented since 1991 – it’s just so shocking that the media only started to pay attention to it in the last few years. There’s a disturbing trend with women beaters in Hollywood who the public blame the victims for – I refuse to buy into that publicist controlled BS. Remember when we used to blame the women for being rape b/c of how they dressed? So now there’s this trend of saying she’s immoral or provoked itso she deserved to be beaten? What about the a-hole coward that is twice the size of the woman who is such a bully that he beats someone who is weaker than he is. No one with a brain is buying Mel’s BS – I truly think they pay people to go on sites to say nice things about him as part of the makeover campaign. There’s just no way that someone who hates everyone, but white heterosexual people can have that many supporters still. However, let’s not forget that Hitler had an entire country behind him and still some look up to him – that doesn’t make what he did any less evil or he any less evil. I wish someone would give Mel the beating by someone twice his size the way he gave Oksana and see how he likes it.

  35. ts says:

    Oh forgot to add – white heterosexual CHRISTIAN people.

  36. Hakura says:

    @SolitaryAngel“Looks like we’re the only 2 on here so far who is stalwartly boycotting everything of his.”

    I’m with Crash2GO2. There are *several* of us here on CB that have banned Gibson’s work from our homes/computers. He’s disgusting as a person, & we simply can’t get around that to enjoy anything else he’s been a part of.

    @DetRiotGirl“I wish I could somehow take this douche out of Disney’s Pocahontas. That’s the only Mel Gibson movie I’ve ever purchased, and I love it too much to ban it from my house just because of Mad Mel.”

    I feel the same way. I hate the fact that Mel was part of what I consider an awesome Disney classic. That is the *ONLY* exception I’ll ever make.

  37. Debbie says:

    She also said on Larry King she had the full unedited tapes safe at home She edited them herself,in another interview she stated she gave them to her sister who destroyed them, Yet in another statement to police she said they were stolen from her house.

    So which version are we meant to believe! It is all there go back and read what she has said and go back and watch the Larry King interview.

    My point is clearly she has contradicted herself and changed her side of what happened so many times, to various media outlets and interviews in magazines.

    She has not kept to the same story once

    Debbie

  38. Chris says:

    I’ll say one thing about the “real Mel” he’s a lot more interesting than the old fake Mel. I actually read the entire interview whereas ten years ago I wouldn’t have bothered.

  39. harfang says:

    A huge part of the bigotry allegations is about his bizarro anti-Semitic rant to that cop, and before that, The Passion really pandered to some extremely old anti-Semitic stereotypes and accusations. You don’t tap into that as a moviemaker unless you believe some of it. And he completely sidestepped that in this interview, in such a way that it’s no better than lying, to me.

    I’d forgotten all about Maverick. I genuinely liked it. Their chemistry was strong, they were both really good at the period thing, and the sex wasn’t stupid. Too bad he’s become an irrevocable douche and she no longer lives in reality. I get that she genuinely loves and cares about him, it is like a long and powerful bromance. That’s no excuse though.

  40. Alexa says:

    THANK YOU Commentors for holding this person accountable! As a DV survivor, it’s painful when people won’t believe abuse happened – regardless of seeing proof. It’s like being abused all over again.