Comments on: Alec Baldwin calls Sarah Palin “Bible Spice”

By: skankbasher

skankbasher — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:15:20 +0000

@brista – Good for you! Couldn’t agree more.

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By: brista

brista — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:57:43 +0000

Evolution is science. Creationism is not science.

So for me, it’s pretty clear that one belongs in science class and one does not.

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By: Codzilla

Codzilla — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 23:43:02 +0000

I definitely agree with teaching the bible as literature, as opposed to a factual text. But if children who are on the fence choose to believe the “fun” story at first, then what’s the harm? There are many years for them to reassess their position based on further education. Or maybe they’ll embrace creationism permanently. Either way, I don’t feel it’s our place to judge, or consider them intellectually inferior because they don’t see things our way.

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By: what

what — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:21:33 +0000

i think the bible should be taught as literature because, as you said, it is so prevalent in our culture.

but picture yourself as a kid who has the option: boring science class where you have to memorize a crapload of info, or fun religion class where you are told that it;s all taken care of and god loves you.

rational thinking takes a long time to learn, it doesn’t come naturally to us. allowing kids a choice between learning to analyze and just accepting fun stories, you know which one they will pick!

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By: Codzilla

Codzilla — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:09:47 +0000

what: Didn’t seem pitchforky, at all. And I absolutely agree with your point that there should be a distinction made between science and religion. I guess I just feel that that since these two points of view are the most prevalent, kids should be exposed to both, just from an awareness standpoint. I don’t agree, however, that one side should be taught as “wrong” or “right”. It’s up to the kids to ultimately decide for themselves, in my opinion.

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By: what

what — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:49:00 +0000

codzilla, if both sides are to be presented equally then there must be a disclaimer of some kind. as in, this is science, we teach it to you because we want you to learn to think rationally, while this is religion, which is by its nature irrational. there is no other “other side” to the evolution debate, it’s not something you can choose to believe in or not believe in. simply there is no debate left on the subject. scientists disagree with one another on the specifics, but they no longer disagree on whether or not it occurred.
so how can you teach a science class that the entire scientific community disagrees with?
creationism is completely irrational and not provable.

that said, if people want to teach their children irrational things at home, they have the right to do so.

(i hope that didn’t sound pitchforky, it really wasn’t meant to be.)

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By: Codzilla

Codzilla — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:26:24 +0000

Thanks, Daisy. Can I hide behind you once the pitchforks come out?

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By: daisy424

daisy424 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:33:03 +0000

Agree Codzilla

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By: indigo25781

indigo25781 — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:31:11 +0000

What Baldwin said was funny. Freedom of speech people.

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By: Codzilla

Codzilla — Fri, 31 Oct 2008 15:25:52 +0000

I live in a red state, and this “ignorant redneck” nonsense really does get tiresome. While there is certainly a host of morons here, I encountered just as many fools in the blue state in which I was born and raised. It’s appalling to me how many people, who undoubtedly count themselves among the enlightened set, react so viciously to those who dare to disagree with their world view.

Edit: In regards to Kansas, what’s wrong with presenting evolution AND creationism? My father is a scientist and, as such, I was raised to believe in evolution (which I still do, wholeheartedly). But there are a lot of people out there who see things differently, so why not expose children to both schools of thought? I don’t see it as indoctrination if both sides are presented equally.

*Braces herself for the onslaught*

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