Comments on: Alanis Morrissette says she was the victim of statutory rape http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:03:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tebogo http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-7963512 tebogo Tue, 22 Nov 2011 18:07:42 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-7963512 I always admire people like Alanis...a lot of women experienced sexual abuse and never open up about it. Your music speaks to my heart Alanis, it encourages me more as a work with women of similar experiences and I just wish we could all speak out against dirty behavior of people (men or women) who think they have a right to take advantage of vulnerable others. I always admire people like Alanis…a lot of women experienced sexual abuse and never open up about it. Your music speaks to my heart Alanis, it encourages me more as a work with women of similar experiences and I just wish we could all speak out against dirty behavior of people (men or women) who think they have a right to take advantage of vulnerable others.

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]]> By: sakura http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-5077833 sakura Thu, 07 Jul 2011 23:05:08 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-5077833 Some of the comments here are outrageous. Consensual or not, a 29 year old man having a "relationship" with a 14 year old is SEXUAL ABUSE! A 14 year old, by law, cannot consent! A 29 year old committing sexual acts upon a 14 year old is not a "relationship" - it is abuse! It IS victimisation! I hope the guy has an unfortunate accident involving the severing of his genitalia and then dies a slow painful death. Some of the comments here are outrageous. Consensual or not, a 29 year old man having a “relationship” with a 14 year old is SEXUAL ABUSE! A 14 year old, by law, cannot consent! A 29 year old committing sexual acts upon a 14 year old is not a “relationship” – it is abuse! It IS victimisation! I hope the guy has an unfortunate accident involving the severing of his genitalia and then dies a slow painful death.

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]]> By: Truth Finder http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-3864254 Truth Finder Mon, 25 Apr 2011 10:00:20 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-3864254 In 1988 when Alanis was 14--Dave Coulier was 29. And they both worked on the set of nickelodeon at that time. Coincidence? But if anyone has ever seen Full House then you already knew Dave Coulier was a pedophile. Maybe we'll see him on Megan's list sometime. Hope he has a good head shot to send them. In 1988 when Alanis was 14–Dave Coulier was 29. And they both worked on the set of nickelodeon at that time. Coincidence?

But if anyone has ever seen Full House then you already knew Dave Coulier was a pedophile. Maybe we’ll see him on Megan’s list sometime. Hope he has a good head shot to send them.

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]]> By: Anonymous http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-324121 Anonymous Sun, 24 May 2009 02:15:53 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-324121 Yes, it's sad that many teenagers have been raped. It's also sad that some teenagers can't just listen to their parents. How many parents really would approve of their teenage daughter (for the purpose of this paragraph, let us ignore the sons) dating an "older man"? Forget Billy Cyrus, most parents are sane enough and know better to do that. And yet in spite of everything, how many of their teenagers insist that their parents "don't understand" and that the love they have is "real" and "true" and go on doing whatever it is they're doing? At this point what can the parents do, really? Lock their teenagers in the basement and watch them 24/7? Not that I condone those who get kicks out of having sex with underage girls, but I find that in many cases of statutory rape the "victims" are also partially responsible for what has happened. By the time we hit puberty most of us know what's right and what's wrong. The fact that Alanis (to cite a specific example) felt that she had to hide this relationship indicates that she knew what she was doing was wrong. So I don't understand why we're supposed to treat her as a "victim." Maybe if she was some little black or Hispanic girl who really had no power it would be a different story, but as it is it takes two to tango, really it does. Yes, it’s sad that many teenagers have been raped. It’s also sad that some teenagers can’t just listen to their parents. How many parents really would approve of their teenage daughter (for the purpose of this paragraph, let us ignore the sons) dating an “older man”? Forget Billy Cyrus, most parents are sane enough and know better to do that. And yet in spite of everything, how many of their teenagers insist that their parents “don’t understand” and that the love they have is “real” and “true” and go on doing whatever it is they’re doing? At this point what can the parents do, really? Lock their teenagers in the basement and watch them 24/7?

Not that I condone those who get kicks out of having sex with underage girls, but I find that in many cases of statutory rape the “victims” are also partially responsible for what has happened. By the time we hit puberty most of us know what’s right and what’s wrong. The fact that Alanis (to cite a specific example) felt that she had to hide this relationship indicates that she knew what she was doing was wrong. So I don’t understand why we’re supposed to treat her as a “victim.” Maybe if she was some little black or Hispanic girl who really had no power it would be a different story, but as it is it takes two to tango, really it does.

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]]> By: Anonymous2 http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-236306 Anonymous2 Sun, 15 Mar 2009 04:32:08 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-236306 She supposedly had an affair with her producer or something when she was younger. "Hands Clean" is rumored to be about that. If you look at the video of the song, you can see an exec-type guy in an office. She supposedly had an affair with her producer or something when she was younger. “Hands Clean” is rumored to be about that. If you look at the video of the song, you can see an exec-type guy in an office.

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]]> By: womans http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-136650 womans Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:19:12 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-136650 I can't believe some of the comments here: promiscuous, she must have a new album to sell (btw, her new album was out months ago), victimization... It's obvious you don't know anything about rape and abuse. You make me sick, you're pathetic. How do you know she doesn't donate her money? Of course she does, she's just not so narcissist to shout it from the hills. Grow up, you people! I can’t believe some of the comments here: promiscuous, she must have a new album to sell (btw, her new album was out months ago), victimization… It’s obvious you don’t know anything about rape and abuse. You make me sick, you’re pathetic. How do you know she doesn’t donate her money? Of course she does, she’s just not so narcissist to shout it from the hills. Grow up, you people!

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]]> By: mirv http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-136446 mirv Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:37:32 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-136446 Elisha, I'm sorry to hear what happened to you and to others on this forum. I just wanted to let you know that just because you did not say “no” does not mean that you consented. Under the Criminal Code of Canada, "Consent is defined as a voluntary agreement of the complainant to engage in the sexual activity in question." (Section 273.1) The criminal code further outlines the following five specific situations in which consent is NOT given. Consent is not given if: The person does not say yes, says no, or through words or behavior implies no The person changes her/his mind It is an abuse of power, trust, or authority It is given by someone else The person is incapable of consenting (i.e. unconscious, drunk, stoned, or sleeping) Yer Mom, Alanis' "morals" are unrelated to whether she was or was not sexually assaulted or abused. Many survivors of sexual violence find that their sexual attitudes and reactions are impacted afterwards. Some people may react to having been sexually assaulted by having more sexual activity than they had before the experience; possibly because they may feel that sex is less important to them now or that it is a way for them to regain a sense of power. Other people may react to sexual assault by avoiding sexual activity and isolating their sexual selves, perhaps fearing losing control of their body or feeling vulnerable to someone else. Experiencing sexual symptoms after sexual assault or abuse is not only very common, but it is also understandable; “sexual abuse is not only a betrayal of human trust and affection, but it is, by definition an attack on a person’s sexuality.” While these effects are not permanent, they can be very frustrating as they can decrease the enjoyment of one’s sexual life and intimacy with others for some time. Fortunately, even if one does not actively work on sexual healing, as the sexual assault or abuse is healed, the sexual symptoms will diminish. No matter what the reaction after a sexual assault or sexual abuse, it is important to remember that it is part of healing, helping to process what happened to and regain a sense of normalcy. Elisha,

I’m sorry to hear what happened to you and to others on this forum. I just wanted to let you know that just because you did not say “no” does not mean that you consented.

Under the Criminal Code of Canada, “Consent is defined as a voluntary agreement of the complainant to engage in the sexual activity in question.” (Section 273.1) The criminal code further outlines the following five specific situations in which consent is NOT given.

Consent is not given if:

The person does not say yes, says no, or through words or behavior implies no
The person changes her/his mind
It is an abuse of power, trust, or authority
It is given by someone else
The person is incapable of consenting (i.e. unconscious, drunk, stoned, or sleeping)

Yer Mom,

Alanis’ “morals” are unrelated to whether she was or was not sexually assaulted or abused.

Many survivors of sexual violence find that their sexual attitudes and reactions are impacted afterwards.

Some people may react to having been sexually assaulted by having more sexual activity than they had before the experience; possibly because they may feel that sex is less important to them now or that it is a way for them to regain a sense of power. Other people may react to sexual assault by avoiding sexual activity and isolating their sexual selves, perhaps fearing losing control of their body or feeling vulnerable to someone else.

Experiencing sexual symptoms after sexual assault or abuse is not only very common, but it is also understandable; “sexual abuse is not only a betrayal of human trust and affection, but it is, by definition an attack on a person’s sexuality.” While these effects are not permanent, they can be very frustrating as they can decrease the enjoyment of one’s sexual life and intimacy with others for some time. Fortunately, even if one does not actively work on sexual healing, as the sexual assault or abuse is healed, the sexual symptoms will diminish.

No matter what the reaction after a sexual assault or sexual abuse, it is important to remember that it is part of healing, helping to process what happened to and regain a sense of normalcy.

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]]> By: Yer Mom http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-136295 Yer Mom Fri, 07 Nov 2008 17:53:22 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-136295 Everyone knows Alannis is a bit...um, "loose" with her morals. She was very promiscuous at a young age, and now that she has a book coming out she claims victimhood. Puh-leeze. Everyone knows Alannis is a bit…um, “loose” with her morals. She was very promiscuous at a young age, and now that she has a book coming out she claims victimhood. Puh-leeze.

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]]> By: Codzilla http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-133860 Codzilla Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:48:23 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-133860 Her music/voice makes me cringe. Just awful. That being said, I certainly wish her the best in terms of coping with past traumas. Her music/voice makes me cringe. Just awful. That being said, I certainly wish her the best in terms of coping with past traumas.

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]]> By: cuccioli http://www.celebitchy.com/19864/alanis_morrissette_says_she_was_the_victim_of_statutory_rape/#comment-133706 cuccioli Tue, 04 Nov 2008 12:25:51 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=19864#comment-133706 Who cares if she is doing and saying all this about being raped - not that she actually is - only because she's got a new album on the way or 'cause of a book?! She's got power in her voice, huge talent and she's pretty. I think she's fantastico. Just think...How many of you have felt sad, terribly sad about something that you are ashamed of? You feel like shouting whatever it is outloud but you can't...singing is probably the best way to do it. With a voice like hers you can do or say anything. Shout it out lound and good ridence i say! :D Who cares if she is doing and saying all this about being raped – not that she actually is – only because she’s got a new album on the way or ’cause of a book?!

She’s got power in her voice, huge talent and she’s pretty. I think she’s fantastico.

Just think…How many of you have felt sad, terribly sad about something that you are ashamed of? You feel like shouting whatever it is outloud but you can’t…singing is probably the best way to do it.

With a voice like hers you can do or say anything. Shout it out lound and good ridence i say! :D

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