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There are about 20 million stories regarding Beyonce, Jay-Z and little Blue Ivy, who was born on Saturday at Lenox Hill Hospital. Allegedly. For convenience, I’m just going to do all of the new stories in bullet points.
*A new (peasant!) father was trying to get into the neonatal intensive care unit to see his newborn, premature twins, but he was shut down by Bey and Jay’s bodyguards – they shut down the entire NICU, allegedly, by shelling out $1.3 million to Lenox Hill. The father is pissed, and some of the parents who were manhandled by Bey and Jay’s bodyguards are considering a lawsuit.
*However, the hospital denies both the “closing off the NICU” story and the “$1.3 million” story. A spokesperson for the hospital told TMZ: “The suggestion that the couple paid $1.3 million to rent an entire maternity floor is simply not true. The family is housed in an executive suite at the hospital and is being billed the standard rate for those accommodations. The family does have its own security detail on site. However, the hospital has been and continues to be in control of managing all security at the facility. We have made every effort to ensure minimal disruption to other families experiencing the births of their own children over the past three days.”
*Jay-Z already has a song about his new daughter. It’s called “Glory (feat. Blue Ivy Carter)”. Apparently, it features a clip of Blue Ivy crying just moments out of the womb (whose womb?). Jay also makes a reference to a previous miscarriage that Beyonce suffered – that no one knew about before now. Sad. Here’s the song, with the lyrics appearing in the video:
*Lastly, Bey and Jay issued a statement about the birth. According to the official story that Jay and Bey are now putting it out, there was NO C-section involved. Bey wants everyone to know that she was NOT too posh to push. I’m sure she’ll be singing about the “pain” too, right? Here’s the statement:
Hello Hello Baby Blue!
We are happy to announce the arrival of our beautiful daughter, Blue Ivy Carter, born on Saturday, January 7, 2012. Her birth was emotional and extremely peaceful, we are in heaven.
She was delivered naturally at a healthy 7 lbs and it was the best experience of both of our lives. We are thankful to everyone for all your prayers, well wishes, love and support.”
[Via Us Weekly]
Do you believe her? Do you believe any of this? Do you believe that Beyonce was really and truly pregnant all of this time, that her magical bump kept going up and down in size on its own, and that she carried to full-term (while flying all over North America) and she went into labor and that she delivered naturally and vaginally? SERIOUSLY?!?!?!!? Granted, I feel bad now that I know Bey and Jay had gone through a miscarriage before… but I honestly think that piece of information can be used for the surrogacy case. Maybe Bey really did have problems conceiving and/or carrying to term, thus, they used a surrogate. I don’t know. But I find the initial reports of a “scheduled C-section” versus “Oh, no, I had a natural birth!” contradiction to be just another in a long line of suspicious activities. Maybe Bey just decided “In for a penny, in for a pound.” She’s lied about so much, why not make up a fake natural birth?
Beyonce when she was seven months pregnant:
Photos courtesy of Fame.
Written by Kaiser
Posted in Beyonce, Births, Jay-Z
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The Carters are such a private couple … And Baby Blue is a beauty am sure
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No they aren’t. Yes the baby probably is beautiful, like all babies.
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all the “fake pregnancy” rumors come from Blindgossip.com
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This site us pushing this story so hard. I don’t get it. She’s actually showed her baby bump bare and yet, she’s still faking it? What more proof does one need?
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she did? i didnt know that. Then there really is no point of all these speculations
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Uh no she showed her belly what it looks like on a normal day after a big lunch without wearing her spanx. Nice try though….fake as the hair on her head.
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I think bling gossip just makes up stuff to get page views. They usually have the most obvious blinds of any I’ve seen. I wouldn’t trust them.
And this fake pregnancy thing has gone far enough. If she really had a surrogate, I’m pretty sure she would say so. I think the people who believe this are jealous unhappy people looking for an excuse to tear her down. I don’t own any of her albums and I find a lot of her songs silly, but this rumor is stupid. And why are people treating surrogacy like it is something to be ashamed of? The truth is Beyonce is not a perfect person, we don’t need petty rumors to discount her. Just look at the way her security team fumbled the birth, for example. At least hate her for something real.
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I don’t see it as this site “pushing the story…” I just think Kaiser, like many of us, honestly believes that Beyonce was not pregnant and that she used a surrogate, and if you genuinely believe that, it comes across as really obnoxious to lie about it.
I usually NEVER believe the bump conspiracies and blind gossip. In the past, I genuinely have felt the way you probably feel–annoyed about what I perceive as false gossip. However, this time I DO actually believe that Beyonce used a surrogate.
Yes, she had *one* photo that appeared to be a baby bump in a bikini, but that does not convince me. Normally that would have been more than enough proof for me, but she did not look that pregnant in the bikini and it very easily could have been a staged photo (ala Leann Rimes) with a prosthetic bump, or it even could have been a photo from when she was pregnant and miscarried–who knows. Because she *did* have a *fake* bump that was actually filmed on that TV interview! It collapsed! She also never looked Jessica Simpson style pregnant,with huge boobs and an overall bloated look. Her boobs always just looked like she has a push up bra on and she never really looked that bloated to me.
If she had a miscarriage that explains WHY she used a surrogate, but she would not want to admit that b/c people who use surrogates get a lot of crap for it, and admitting to a surrogate cannot get the same press that a baby bump shocker at the Grammy’s and a “Look How I Lost the Weight!” cover can . And it is ALL about image, publicity and money for her–she has been doing this since she was a teen and could get away with a fake bump because her MOTHER is her stylist! I do believe, also, that the timing was off, which would be an easy mistake if you were a busy celebrity and someone else was carrying the baby for you. Celebrity friendly People even reported that according to her timeline, the birth was a month early. AND it is so obvious that she lied about the C Section–she scheduled it for the 8th because her and Jay Z’s favorite numbers are 4 so 4 plus 4..etc., but now she wants us to believe that it was a natural birth?!
It is insulting and interesting, and that is why Kaiser posts about it. We are insulted that, after following the alleged pregnancy news, she still thinks we are stupid enough to believe her continuous lies, and we are interested in analyzing a celebrity that would go to such lengths to fool the public. That’s basic gossip for you–critiquing and analyzing celebrity behavior. No “jealousy” involved.
Kaiser, you should really do a story about this that is dedicated to exactly WHY you believe she lied, documenting all of the proof in favor of your (our) theory…
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It’s so silly. People are lacking logic. They are simultaneously idiots and master manipulators. Pick a side and stay there.
For example, they had a c-section so that they could have a particular numerology number. They were so smart to pick the date so carefully, but Beyonce is going to wear a pillow baby on TV? What? That doesn’t even make sense! Furthermore, I would think that she would wear something more than a pillow baby, like have a heavy duty suit made for her if she were really going to fake something like that.
-Second stupid thing I keep hearing is about the c-section scar. You don’t see c-section scars! They are purposely done below the bikini line. Not that she had a c-section anyway.
-You can be active during your pregnancy if your doctor clears you. Yes, even after a miscarriage. It depends on the reason for the miscarriage.
-Fear of Childbirth claim: She could have changed her mind about being scared of childbirth. Lots of women do.
-She didn’t look pregnant claim: Just because one person carries a baby and gains a lot of weight, doesn’t mean that they all do. For every Jessica Simpson, there is a Victoria Beckham. It depends on your genes and what you eat during your pregnancy. Beyonce didn’t gain a lot of weight–good for her!
-The folding dress video: It depends on the material of the dress.
What people should be upset about is how the rich are treated better by hospitals because they have money. Not some stupid “fake pregnancy”. I think people should really research and ask medical personnel before they assume that what they are saying is true.
And there are some idiots who won’t believe anything anyone says. Everything every celeb does it fake. Really only 30-20% of what the media covers about celebs is true. The rest is fabrication to sell papers and get site hits.
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@ Heather M. Keep in mind it all got started based on photo assumption, if it wasn’t for Sandra Rose no one would have ever question her pregnancy. I would have believe she was faking it if there were actual reports from insiders, why tabloids are not reporting on it if it’s true. There was nothing like that only photo assumption and claims based on it like : she can’t be pregnant she wears heels, she can’t be pregnant I ‘ve heard she has eaten oysters (it was her husband by the way not her) or she’s not as huge as a house she’s totally faking it .
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Anyone who believes the fake baby bump stories is a fool.
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Here is why am back on the fake pregnancy, she used a surrogate band wagon.
By her own time line, assuming she was telling the truth, she should now be 8months pregnant.
HAving a baby at 8months is possible for c-section.
Rarely is a first baby, delivered naturally early. And at 8months.
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I can believe that they suffered a miscarriage, and I do feel sorry about that.
However, they both need to take several seats if they want to make us believe that it was BEYONCE who pushed Blue Ivy through the ready-made canal. Please. I’ve lost so much respect for her over the years, between the fake songwriting credits, stolen performances, bullying by her father to get her awards and blatant, outright lying to get attention but this takes the cake.
I’m usually not one to believe conspiracy theories but I still don’t believe she was pregnant at all. I also don’t believe that she realized how much more FAKING a fake prenancy would require. Have you SEEN that E! News video? How can a 9 months (10 more like) woman can rush and get into a SUV the way she did? Please. I want her to enjoy her baby, take some time out and stop with the famewhoring.
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Exactly.
And someone else pointed out that she never referred to her pregnancy in terms of weeks, only months. You always hear pregnant women say, “I’m 32 weeks” or “almost 24 weeks”, etc.
Never “7 months” like Beyonce did the entire time.
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Now you’re reaching …..I never referred to weeks vs months during my pregnancies. …especially when discussing my pregnancy with non-family members!
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I talked in weeks about my pregnancy as well and every other pregnant woman I’ve known. I too find EVERYTHING about her pregnancy suspicious.
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ITA with ALL of the above!
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I thought the same thing, autumndaze. Every pregnant woman I have ever met describes the pregnancy in weeks and not months. I always have to do the math in my head.
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I think this is kind of a silly argument. I used both weeks and months, depending on who asked. I replied in weeks to medical personele and other parents, and in months to everyone else. I know of a lot of other women who did the same, and we were all very much in the process of personally gestating our babies.
Telling someone completely unfamiliar with pregnancy you’re 20 weeks along is often confusing for a couple of reasons. First, a lot of people suck at math and are (sadly) unable to do the rapid mental calculation required to translate said weeks into months. Second, few of the uninitiated know that the total length of a full-term pregnancy is 40-42 weeks, so what’s the point in explaining in weeks if they don’t know out of how many total? Much easier to just say, “Five months,” and be done with it.
So, if I were Beyonce, talking to millions about my pregnancy and how far along I was, I’d go by months too.
Finally, expectant parents via surrogacy are just as eager and excited as parents via the old fashioned way (perhaps even more so because of the lengths they’ve gone in order to have a child). And I bet if you rounded up 100 women waiting for a surrogate to deliver their child, they’d know EXACTLY how many weeks along the surrogate was, and they’d know EXACTLY how many weeks it’d be till they’d finally be able to hold their child in their arms.
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Co-sign!!!
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Agreed, agreed… A thousand times agreed.
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A 1000X agree too!
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Oops, wrong place.
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Yep. What you said.
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Can someone please send me alink to the video where Beyonce is entering the SUV? I cannot find and I am interested to see.
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Ask and ye shall receive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LHjxuv7Rzg&feature=related
at the end where she is hopping into that suv it was supposedly one day before giving birth.
When I was 9 months pregnant, getting into an SUV was like an 8-point parallel park–it too some maneuvering and some time! :0)
I don’t think she was pregnant at all.
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Wow! thanks for asking for and posting that. I’ve sort of been on the fence about this (i.e. didn’t care enough to form an opinion), but I have to agree 100% that if that SUV video is correctly dated there is absolutely no way in hell she is pregnant. No matter how fit you were at 9 months it would be impossible to climb in like that – totally impossible! This is a great celebrity story – love it.
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Fake fake fake. They are disgusting. This pregnancy was fake and now they are trying to play a victims – read new blindgossip. Horrible people. And there is another rumor that she is going to perform at the Grammys – just five weeks after “miracle of birth”.
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Ew. They better not be lying about a freaking miscarriage. As if lying about using a surrogate was not bad enough! Ew.
And seriously, what’s all this “magical maternity” thing that so many women in Hollywood are doing? It does not make you more “perfect in your humanity”, you know? Go figure. *shrugs*
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Lying about a miscarriage would be the lowest of the low.
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this blindgossip item was out just after JayZ song and they always ‘re pretty vague (they yet wrote about Brangelina’s break-up 2 years ago or end of Cruise/Holmes’marriage)
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Thanks Carrie, glad I’m not the only one to have noticed that Blind Gossip is a total fraud.
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I was reading yesterday that she is scheduled to perform at the Grammy’s in five weeks. Try to explain bouncing around that soon after a c-section or having to produce a scar. There’s a blind item at Blind Gossip about PR control and using past sorrows to garner sympathy after bad press. This story really gets more and more icky as time goes by. If it all is fake, I hope it blows up in their faces at some point. Just sad that a little baby is dragged into the craziness…
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They probably have people reading this site and after they read that some people wanted to see a scar, they decided to say the birth was natural. That way, there’s no scar to show. (Even though many said their C-section scar was low enough to not be seen in a bathing suit.)
Not to mention, as you and others have said, a natural birth is much easier to bounce back from, so nothing can be said for her performing so soon.
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Look at this pics and tell me was faking it :
http://www.popsugar.com/Pregnant-Beyonce-Knowles-Baby-Bump-Bikini-Pictures-18995310?page=0,0,0#0
That being said I’m sick and tired to here about this two and this miscarriage revelation was beyond tacky, they’re not the Brangelina why people care so much.
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you know some people again believe Elvis is alive and 9/11 conspiracy
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There is lots of circumstantial evidence to make people scratch their heads. The only thing the pro-Beyonce people can talk about as “proof” is this damn picture which isn’t hard to fake either. You can’t convince non- believers.
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Lol..you believe blind items and the notion of a collapsing baby bump, which was due to her dress material and yet you won’t believe the pic of her with her bare pregnant stomach in a bikini? Was this photo photoshopped by the paps? Or did she have too much to eat? I know that’s what the conspiracy theorists would suggest.
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There is nothing to back up the fake pregnancy story, not a single tabloid report. BG is the only that keeps pushing this ridiculous story.
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Sigh..its sad all around. This pic is proof enough but sadly, many people won’t believe it no matter what.
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I’m not saying I believe it because the blinds always come out AFTER some shit happens, like how Selena Gomez was supposed leave Justin Bieber after that baby thing. I’m saying a lot of people see what they want to see. You see a deflating belly due to her dress, others don’t. I think she’s a liar and a phoney. I always have since DC first came out so I wouldn’t believe anything she said. Just like people refuse to believe she wasn’t pregnant, people refuse to believe she was due to the BI’s and changing stories and odd behaviour. I don’t know if she was or wasn’t. I don’t think partying in 6″ heels until 4 in the morning weeks before you are due is the smartest idea. Does that mean that she just had a lot of energy? Maybe. I’m always suspicious of her but at the end of the day, their baby is here, no matter how she got her, she is obviously loved and wanted. I just wish she would take a break and stop famewhoring.
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@Tapioca You don’t think she looks bloated here ?
http://www.dlisted.com/2011/12/21/yes-beyonce
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She may or may not have been pregnant in that photo, none of us can know one way or the other, but what I do know is that it is in no way definitive proof that she was. It’s a photo of a vaguely bloated woman, there is nothing distinctly pregnant about the shape/size/location/anything of that stomach, I’ve looked more convincingly pregnant after a big lunch. Again, to try and calm the Bey-loving fanatics, I’m not saying she wasn’t pregnant, just that this photo proves she was pregnant as much as a photo of a rock would.
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Ok then same can be said for most celebrities. How do we know for sure Jlo gave birth and didn’t hire a surrogate, what about Angelina Jolie’s twin ? Is there any proof ?
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@bubelle:
Well, J-Lo looked like she was carrying those twins in her face she was so bloated before she popped!
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@bubulle
You may notice how I never claimed to know for a fact that JLo or Angelina or any other celebrity for that matter truly gave birth. You may also notice how I never claimed that they didn’t either. All I stated was that the photo being used as proof of pregnancy in Beyonce’s case is in no way convincing proof. She may have been truly pregnant and just not looked it in that photo, or she may not have been, and likewise for any other celebrity out there – although most or perhaps all were in fact pregnant we don’t know that for a fact, though to be fair many were photographed looking what can only be described as 100% pregnant (or an amazing fake) whereas Beyonce has at best looked bloated. This doesn’t mean she wasn’t pregnant, she just didn’t ever look it.
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@Gherkin my whole point is to say there shouldn’t even have a controversy in the first place. Since pics of her pregnant belly on display are not definite proofs, pics of her covered belly shouldn’t be taken in account to prove otherwise don’t you think. It’s not like there are actual reports to back up this story.
And it’s not because Jlo and Angelina were bigger than Beyonce that it proves they really gave birth, they could have taken meds or eaten more to look pregnant for what we know. If Beyonce pregnacy has been questioned based solely on pictures we should do the same for all pregnant celebrities.
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Uh ok she’s FAKING. That’s what she normally looks like when she’s not performing in a spanx. I look like that right now and I’m not preganant.
I’m 5’9 145lbs…everybody thinks I’m this and that and I tell them…No I’m just tall, dress appropriately and can hide it really well with the right top and a spanx when I wear a tight dress.
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Sorry but that doesn’t look like any pregnant belly I’ve ever seen, including my own…She just looks bloated, like she’s had a big lunch and forgot to suck it in.
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I think most women could make their stomach look like that by consciously pushing out their stomach (I know I could and I’m reasonably fit and probably around the same height/weight as her)- so I can see this being misleading if she knew (had planned?) someone was taking a photo like this at that point in time. Which I do believe is possible in this case given that I just watched that crazy climbing into the SUV video.
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I remember in an interview she stated that she would be scared to birth a baby and now she wants us to believe she had a natural and peaceful labor. This whole pregnancy is so scandalous. I dont believe anything her people have to say except that she had a miscarriage.
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She said that after she watched her nephew being born. Go figure.
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I have said and still say I would be scared to give birth naturally. I think thats a normal reaction to pushing out a human being out of your vagina. That doesn’t mean that I’m not going to try though in the future when I hopefully am able to have children on my own.
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Frannie, other moms may disagree with me, but you literally forget about how crappy it was as soon as you get your little bundle in your arms. It kind of goes from “It was the worse thing ever” to…”Ehhh…it wasn’t that bad.” At least it did for me. Don’t be scared, this is what your body was MADE to do. I can’t wait to pop out my little lady that’s on the way
Of course, we will see how I feel mid labor without an epidural, haha 
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I agree with sammigirl, it is very intense, to say the least, but women have been doing this since the beginning of time, and they came through it okay. When I saw my beautiful daughter, I forgot the pain and just rejoiced in her birth. She’s getting married next year and just thinking about it makes me teary-eyed (and feel really, really old).
As for Screamonyce and what’s his name, WHO CARES?
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But very rarely is a birth peaceful. Especially for those sects of people stating there can be no noise at all, BS! A few pregnancies may slide right out without a grunt or waves of pain from contractions, but if a person received a c-section, well, I can’t speak to how peaceful or not that could be. Are C-sections peaceful? I’ve never ever heard of the coming of a child into the world as being peaceful. It is usually a grueling experience for both mother and yes, even the newborn!
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@DeE, I actually saw a documentary about women who actually have orgasms during child birth!! If they were acting, they deserve Oscars.
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I had my second child 6 months ago, and did it with no pain relief. I can honestly say, labor is by far the worst part. When you’re pushing it stings, but that’s about the worst of it. It’s more painful afterwards. And I would do it all again a hundred times over, to have my boys!
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I have heard loads of women say that, including ones who were very pregnant at the time.
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To @orion70, @Franny, @samigirl, @MST, & @DeA: I’ve never given birth myself, but am an RN. What I learned in my OB/GYN rotation in nursing school was that yes, childbirth is traumatic, extremely painful and all that. However, nature being so great, that women have this “mechanism” in their brain that somehow gives them a “forgetfulness” regarding the extreme pain of childbirth. I learned that this phenomenon/mechanism is such because the human race (this probably also refers to all of the animal kingdom), can continue procreating.
In other words, it’s JUST LIKE @Samigirl described. Childbirth is extremely painful, as she described, but after the passage of some time, that painful episode of birthing a baby, that mechanism/phenomenon kicks in w/the passage of time, so that somehow that “painful childbirth” isn’t remembered/perceived as such in the mother’s mind, thereby increasing the likelihood that the mother would be willing to go through childbirth again, as she does not “remember/recall” that the birth was as painful as it really was.
This was how it was described to my class in nursing school, at least. It makes sense to me, even though I’ve never had a child myself.
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Yes Kimbob, et al…it is all speculation by us, the public, but 19 years and 13 years later I remember both my vaginal deliveries and peaceful would never describe them, though I agree the passage of time changes the perception. Even if I were medicated, I doubt peaceful would describe my deliveries. What a blessing for all those women who have orgasmed during delivery and for a Beyonce to be able to use the term peaceful for hers. Just not believable, but who am I except a “norm” broke momma speaking from my personal experience. Peaceful…pthhhhh. Natural=vaginal…every outlet lied and circulated rumors? Quite possible, but not likely. I think it was elective c-section, and she had the right to choose it, even if it wasn’t medically necessary. Stay mumm or fess up. Implants, c-section, i wrote this song uh oh i didn’t and whatever other ooops. I’m private, I’m not…i’m liberated and trying to liberate women but not through their sexuality and constantly inticing, noooooo this is art we women can run this world
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I was scared to birth my son naturally, but I still did it. And it was pretty darn peaceful compared to other horror stories I’ve heard. But water births are generally pretty peaceful
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If she had sufferd from a miscarriage before she wouldn’t dance her ass off on stage at (allegedly) six months pregnant nor would she party till 4 in the morning with 7’’ heels on. Every woman with common sense would have gone the safest route and avoided every form of stress and risk.
Maybe she had miscarriage (which is very sad) but she 100% wasn’t pregnant this time. This is actually just adding up to the surrogate stories.
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I was thinking the same thing: she had a miscarrage and then she was flying, and dancing, and performing during the pregnancy? NO WAY.
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I posted that theory yesterday as a quote from RITA over at Daily Mail and some people questioned the relevancy of the post! Glad someone else is questioning the same thing now! Basically, women who genuinely experience miscarriages do not give coochie popping performances several times over in high heels. They give way to extra caution in their daily loves as to protect the baby.
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When a woman miscarries, it’s not because of her doing. It’s because there was something wrong with the baby or your body wasn’t able to sustain the pregnancy. I miscarried 2 times in a row before this baby, and I couldn’t have stopped either of them. My doctor even said I could go on a roller coaster if I wanted to, and it wouldn’t make a difference. If your body is going to miscarry a child, it’s already written in the cards. Yes, we tend to wonder “is it something I did?” Or, “What did I do wrong?” But, ultimately, it’s not the mother’s fault.
One can’t go on not living their life and worrying about if every step they take is going to disrupt the life growing inside them. Stressing causes more harm than anything else. She lived her life after her miscarriage. Good for her.
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Thanks for sharing your story. Happy for you.
I’m beyond disgusted by this thread, so I’m out.
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ITA with both above posts. Stop freaking guilt tripping pregnant women. And stop assuming that just because you or someone you knew was a certain way when pregnant that every pregnancy is the same.
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Samigirl, that’s really sad and I hope you recovered completely.
It’s true, it’s not something a woman can predict or avoid if there is something wrong with the formation of the fetus or the mother’s uterus.
Still, if it is known that the pregnancy may be at risk (as for previous miscarriages) some precautions are usually taken, as not riding a horse or flying in planes or doing rough movements/sports that may cause a detachment of the placenta. That does not mean that the woman must stop living, she is just advised to avoid repentine movements and other few things. So, if Bey really did miscarry, she was probably told to be careful and stay quiet, which…is kinda not what she did. So I tend to believe she may have used a surrogate, which is fine. She should have been honest about it, though.
Then I really, really hope she did not lie about her miscarriage.
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They don’t come from BG, they come from stupid famewhores like this. See those two youtube vids put up in the last post. In fact, if you showed me that “7″ month pic, I wouldn’t even know she was pregnant. After watching the clips, having been pregnant twice myself and having worked in hospitals for over 20 years looking at women about to pop. JUST NO!
Or like some of you insist that B is in the less that 1% of women who never show, can fly around on planes and leap into an SUV a week before giving birth.
And check out the wording of that announcement. No mom and baby are doing great. Just her birth was emotional and extremely peaceful.
Oh yeah, that’s what births are like, if you have someone else pop that baby out, if you do it, it’s a whole other story.
Changing of the dates…Let’s see she said she was due in Feb at first. (I had 2 babies in Feb…got pregnant in May. In August (the beginning at her vid shoot)she says she is 6 months, that would put her at being due in Late Nov/early Dec. Nothing makes sense except for the fact that she was never pregnant. No wobble, no nothing. NOTHING! I don’t believe it for a hot minute and don’t usually fact check this much, but this is a shitstorm of lies!
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i guess that only the “delivery” video could stop the rumors!
for me,they’re not famewhores because they’re yet over famous like Brangelina of pop music
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totally agree. none of the math adds up, granted it could be conflicting reports strung together over time, but its still pretty shady. with the new info about the miscarriage- i dont think anyone that has had that experience spends the entire next pregnancy jet hopping and cootie dancing around in 6 inch heels. there are exceptions to the rule, some women just dont show that much. with my son i gained about 24 lbs and looked 5 months the entire time which i know is not the norm at all. (crossing fingers the second one goes the same way) however, the very slim chance that she was just a dainty preggo lady with seemingly no other visual effects is highly suspicious.
im not going to speculate as to what really went down but im not buying it.
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@original tiff, The birth announcement was just plain weird. Was the birth “natural,” meaning drug free or vaginal? And if it was the latter why not just say there was no c section and leave it at that. Also no length? They just announce the weight. 7 lbs even. Then a diversion with the release of Jay’s song that announces a previous miscarriage. Weird indeedy.
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Hey Mort, did you get my answer from our other B thread? You are so hot!
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@original tiff, No I didn’t. Yes! Thanks for the confirmation.
And you’re not so bad yourself
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People claiming that Beyonce faked her pregnancy is creepy. I don’t know why people are so desperate for it to be true.
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Thank you! I was wondering the same thing (and I’m not exactly a huge fan). Can’t we just let them be happy? I don’t get all this extreme hatred for this couple. It’s not like they are Leanne R and Eddie C! It’s leaving a very bad taste in my mouth.
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Lying is creepy. Lying about a pregnancy (or miscarriage) is creepier. Being so obviously insecure is creepy.
These two are too stupid to lie convincingly. They are vain and act entitled. If they had talent to support 1/10th of their sins they would be easier to tolerate. But B & J are in our faces aggressively telling us their myths. No class. They make Lady Gaghag seem demure.
Ego is ugly.
I want them to realize they are no more special than any of us. (And we don’t wear tacky wigs and 4 inch heels and flesh-baring hoochie dresses, or record our proclamations in fey whiny-voiced foul-language “songs.”)
I wish these two wouldn’t live their lives through their publicists and bank accounts.
Being precocious and needy seems to be all the Carter-Knowleses know, so I hope the child is raised by someone more grounded than they are.
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Don’t know what to believe. The stories of the birth keep changing.
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now a song….give me a break. ya, they are so private my ass.
could they famewhore anymore??? almost as bad as when he tried to make money off occupy wall street with his cheap tshirts.
gross.
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@Samira677:
Because people love conspiracy theories, they love knocking the over-entitled down to size, and Beyonce’s faked everything else in her career, so why not a baby? Plus the Kim Kardashian “did she fake her wedding” story was getting old and the answer’s obviously “Yes”.
Note “SHE WAS delivered naturally”, not “BEYONCE delivered naturally”.
There’s a difference between the truth, and the whole truth.
TEAM I-wonder-how-his-10-year-old-son-feels-about-his-little-sister-getting-VIP-treatment-and-a-song-whilst-he’s-locked-in-a-cupboard?!!
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I’m not even fan of Beyonce and Jay-Z, but please, leave this people alone, do you believe that she fake her pregnancy, just because some people on internet said it??? “yeah, because the gossip sites, are, umm, you know, like the greatest journalist in the world”, please¡¡¡¡¡ how many time they are wrong??? ignorant people
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Had Bayoncé not lied and thieved through her entire career, maybe the majority of those who believe they lied would not even entertain that idea that she is lying. Maybe if she had not famewhored at the VMA’s rubbing her belly on stage after 10 years of “I don’t talk about my private life”, then maybe we wouldn’t get suspicious. Maybe if she hadn’t gotten her own timeline wrong (not that she owes us anything), maybe it wouldn’t sound so ludicrous. Maybe if she wasn’t seen parading all over NYC in Louboutins up until three days before she “gave birth”, maybe yeah, we’d believe her. It’s too much for me to believe they’re telling the truth. With that said, like I said before, they don’t owe us the truth. They just should stop taking us for fools who worship at the church of BeyJaysus and who believe everything that comes out of their mouth.
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just out of curiosity what other “scandals” or lying has been associated with her/them? we all know shes been “26″ for a decade, but do tell…
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Just thought I’d add another level of conspiracy. It’s been all over about how seriously they’re both into numerology and the number 4. If you add up the birthdate 1/7/2012 (1+7+2+0+1+2=13) 1+3= 4! Coincidence? And, yes, I have way to much time on my hands right now.
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LOL
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My only quibble with this is, why didn’t they have the kid on January 4th? Then it would be: JayZ, December 4th, Beyonce September 4th, Blue Ivy January 4th.
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4th + 4th = 8th.
There kid was “born” on Jan. 8th.
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Maybe she realized that there would be a scar if she would have had a C-section… ehm oops, it was a natural birth! An extremly peaceful one, of course.
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ITA! No C-section = no scar, hence the natural birth story.
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That’s silly. You don’t see c section scars unless the person is naked. They are made pretty far down on the pubic area. They are about five to six inches wide. Google before you say things that aren’t true.
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I don’t believe it for one second. If she suffered from a miscarriage before, then why on Earth was she jumping and dancing like a crazy woman during her Glastonbury performance over the summer when she would have been in her first trimester? You’d think she would have been more careful, right???
http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/2012/01/09/10-reasons-why-beyonce-might-not-have-been-pregnant-photos/
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I’m not sure if women here don’t understand the human body or are just looking for ridiculous things to type about, but a woman who is pregnant is not a glass ball. If she is a fit woman who exercises EVERY.SINGLE.DAY, then that doesn’t need to change during pregnancy. If anything, women should keep up with their fitness – it’ll make the birth easier and getting back into it.
To recap, the following are not valid reasons why she wasn’t actually pregnant:
- she wore high heels (look at Jessica Simpson)
- she danced while pregnant
- she said it was a peaceful birth ( would you rather have them say “it was really f-ing painful, everything was bloody and I screamed a lot”? most people gloss over those details when they announce the birth of their child)
Valid reasons why she may not have been pregnant:
- collapsing belly
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Franny, I adore your posts but logic doesn’t apply here. Don’t you see it? It’s a lost cause. Smh.
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And any birth can be peaceful with an epidural!
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#2: Valid reason she was not pregnant. Beyonce is the only female since creation who’s extremities did not change, face, hands, feet, legs, hips, nose bridge etc., only her stomach size did.
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If she’s a woman who has previously had a miscarriage then ditching the crazy heels, parties, performances, and jetting around the place during her pregnancy is precisely what she should do and what everyone she spoke to regarding her pregnancy would have advised her to do, nurses, doctors, ultrasound techs, and probably anyone else with half a mind.
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@franny, it’s more likely than not that she was pregnant. However, I’m with those who say that participating in rigorous physical activity (when you’ve previously suffered a miscarriage) isn’t something MOST women would do. Not because it causes miscarriage (rationally we know that it doesn’t) but many of us worry that (since it happened once) it *could* happen again, so we do everything in our power to take it easy *just in case*
Also, if they had released a statement that said “Bey was in a ton of discomfort and she pooped on the table during the pushing phase,” I would say with 100% certainty that she was pregnant
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THEY ARE JUST ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC, really rather feel sorry for them, they actually think they are important …. of course all their lies reek of ghetto nonsense, she has no talent, and is annoying…I don’t like their energy it is creepy.
I am just glad I live in a world where they are just seen as ridiculous and so non important, just two pathetic morons.
And trying to make sense out of their cryptic nonsense is BORING. So many more way more important babies were born on that day and in life period.
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“#2: Valid reason she was not pregnant. Beyonce is the only female since creation who’s extremities did not change, face, hands, feet, legs, hips, nose bridge etc., only her stomach size did.”
I’m 5 1/2 months. Due May. My nose, lips, face, hands, feet, hips, AND BREASTS are still the same size. I’ve LOST 9 pounds (was a little overweight, so it’s ok), and my belly is big. That’s the only place I look pregnant.
With my first child, I gained 50 pounds and none of those things changed either…except for my stomach.
Not every woman changes so drastically during pregnancy.
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Almost the same here, Samigirl. I’m nearing 7 months, due early April, and my arms, legs, feet, hands, and face look the same, but my belly and boobs are bigger, but since the boobs were big to begin with most people can’t tell. I was normal weight to start, but have gained almost 30 pounds AND still don’t have the “all-over” pregnant look. In fact, dressed a certain way, I have had people comment they can’t tell I’m pregnant.
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‘all their lies reek of Ghetto Nonsense.”
Please clarify “Ghetto Nonsense.”
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Also wondering what “ghetto nonsense” means. Any clarification would be great.
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I know what the phrase “ghetto (whatever)” means to me, and I also believe it would NOT have been applied to a couple who were white…
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“Just make sure the plane you on is bigger than your carry-on baggage….”
Was this a reference to Aaliyah?! What the hell?!
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Probably
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Oh that’s disgusting… BTW I miss Aaliyah. She would never have pulled desperate crap like this. She was a class act.
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I am not sure you understood it the way he intended. Jay Z and Aaliyah used to date and remained close friends even when she began to date his business partner. When she died and her brother asked some celebrities to remix one or her songs, Jay Z has the most heartfelt rap that I have ever heard from a rapper though I don’t care for the genre. It was so intimate and beautiful I don’t think he would ever make fun or light of her death and I think he put that verse in as a double meaning.
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Erm… it’s called a metaphor! Plane, not as in aircraft, but as in ‘level’ – when someone is on a higher plane. Carry on baggage is a play on words -emotional baggage, which also fits in with getting onto an aircraft. That’s how good rap works, it’s a play on words and themes. Not so straightforward.
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Why anyone would associate the birth of their child with a tragic death, I will never get.
R.I.P. Aaliyah.
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We know what a metaphor is. And there has been A LOT of shitty rap, lately. One of the reasons why I had to stop listening….
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I thought so too, about the Aaliyah reference. Pretty blatant. God, these two are prize aholes. Just go away.
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What?! Now the baby was naturally born. I know where this is going…………she is desperate to perform at the Grammys next month. Can’t freakin’ pull this off if you just had a C-section.
Can somebody play “Lyin ass bitch” when she steps onto a stage or a red carpet next time? I’m disgusted!
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oh people shut up they didn’t fake this pregnancy a due date is never set in stone 80% of babies born annually are over due 15% are early unless it’s mutliples which are unlikely at age 30 unless they run in the family. poeple like you are why most celebs are leary to admit having suffered miscarriages or Still borns. Jay Z admitting Bey miscarried before in a song is brave going through that leaves emotional scars that last a lifetime
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Oh Courtney ,how i wait for your hilarious statements about stars…. u always make my day.were do u come up with this stuff . All women who have had miscarrages jump on planes durning there last semesters, dance in heels and miraculously have the energy to party all night with her hubbie. I got to ask do u have children?
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Are you a doctor? It depends on why she had a miscarriage. Some miscarriages are due to birth defects not by the mom moving around “too much”.
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Courtney, people like you are why I consistently argue for a strong mental health care system in the United States.
If Beyonce had a miscarriage before, do you know how many double-plus-extra-good-brownie points she would have received from the public? Especially if that miscarriage was used as a reason to use a surrogate? A GAJILLION! Granted, it really is none of our business….
The possibility that Beyonce used a surrogate to have her baby is not the issue here. It is the fact that this whole thing has been suspect from the time that “belly” folded over in that Australian TV interview. She is trying to project herself as some “superwoman” when in reality she is a human being- just like the rest of us. And any imperfections she has makes her that much more bankable in the long run, because women gravitate to other women who are real, and are willing to back up/support financially women similar to them (i.e. HUMAN). Get a freakin’ clue!!!
END RANT.
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@Quinn, I’m going to go out on a limb here and say Courtney does not have any children.
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Whatever, I have no use for either of them.
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Haha Mata…you make an excellent point. Bet you you’re spot on. Yes, labor is so peaceful…that’s what comes to mind when I think back on my own…peaceful. And vaginal and natural mean two different things. Vaginal means that there wasn’t a C-Section; natural means there were no drugs involved. If she doesn’t know the difference between the two, she didn’t have the baby…AND if she’s claiming that she had a peaceful “natural” delivery, she’d be the first one I’ve known of.
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Except Gisele, but then she operates on a plane above us mere mortals who feel pain!
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As a former Marine who had all 3 of my children while active duty. I can tell you that half of you so called mother’s are embarassing to me. I had all 3 of my children NATURALLY. That means vaginally w/out the aid of drugs. It is a given that if they are going to cut the abdominal cavity that drugs will play a role (level depends on tolerance but there will indeed be some). I PT’d (worked out) 3x a week throughout my pregnancy and even took part in a “war-like” exercise during my 2nd pregnancy and I was 7 months and my role was to act as a refugee on the run and this took place in humid Okinawa! I also flew home to visit family in the states during my pregnancy. Because i was so physically active with all of my babies I always got to the hospital already 7 cms w/ a bursting bag (as they called it). I was deployed for a combined armed exercise right after my first child and I breastfed and the pilots of my unit would fly my milk back to base for me. All of my births were peaceful since being active during pregnancy makes labor pretty much a walk in the park. All of you with all of your exclamantions of what can’t be done during pregnancy need to get it together. Slave women picked cotten almost till the afterbirth was delivered and still kept picking (an exxageration but you get my point). I think a lot of you need to get in shape. An out of shape woman most likely has a hard labor.
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Give me a flipping break! I DO have a medical degree, I exercised, rode horses and worked until I gave birth and I still have a 72 and an 19 hour labors.
We don’t all just pop them out. Even Samigirl, who is 5.5 months and has lost weight has a big belly. And like she said with her first she only gained in the tummy and it was 50 lbs.
Did you look at that SUV clip? Have you ever seen a full term woman do that? I haven’t and I’ll wager you a million bucks I have seen about 10,000 more full term pregnant women than you. Even if B had gained 30 pounds, you’d see a large belly. She doesn’t even look more pregnant than she did at the VMAs. If that’s is the walk and hop into an SUV of a full term woman wearing tight ass jeans an heels moving that way, I’ll eat my hat.
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Then they need to take your license if you are that closeminded. My first pregnancy I lost 10 lbs from morning sickness (more like afternoon sickness) and did not flesh out until I was 6 1/2 months. I gained back the 10 plus 7 lbs which made my official weith gain for that pregnancy 7 lbs. I gained more with my 2nd baby that was my girl and I was an emotional wreck (which is why I suspect they set me up to be a refugeee just to get me away from everybody) and I started gaining in my 5th month and totaled out at 63 lbs total gained. My first pregnancy was ectopic and I lost a tube when it rupted and was told my chances of carrying to full term were slim to none. I had placenta previa with my first liveborn and was scheduled for a c-section but had him naturally 4 weeks before my due date. All of my childrens b-days are in the summer as are my husband and my b-days so some think we planned it that way (my daughter was born the day before my son turned 2) but it wasn’t anything planned it’s just that I only ovulate from one tube. The women in my family are jojingly called breeders because we have children so seemingly easy. I have a large family. So good child-bearing genes are most likely a factor but being in shape is definitely a plus since I was petrified of the delivery when everyone gave me all of their days of labor horror stories. I went to the doctor because I thought I had a yeast infection and come to find out it was my plug and I was already 7cm! That was at 11:00ish that morning. I had my son at 12:24pm and was out of the Naval Hosp. at 11:30 discharge. In fact the only child that I stayed in the hospital more that 24 hrs for was my last one (damn civilian hosp.).
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Umm, no they don’t, I am quite qualified and have seen everything, including a petrified full term fetus grown outside of the womb of woman who was by then into her 90′s and never knew. She was fat and they thought she had a benign tumor.
You seem to have had some exceptional pregnancies, great. I too, lost 15 lbs during my first trimester with my first, but still looked a pregnant whale by due date. Both mine were two weeks early.
What I am saying is that physiologically our bodies do certain things when pregnant. We make relaxin which loosens up all our joints in preparation for the widening of the pelvis, this is what makes very pregnant women wobble as well as the shift in balance. Most belly buttons pop, your breasts enlarge by term to prepare for breastfeeding, etc. Your belly still has a usually at least 7 pound human in there, plus a placenta, fluids and sac. That does not hide. You can carry wide, but you can’t carry a baby in your ass or in your back, there is only ONE place for a belly to go-OUT. And no matter if people here insist on bumps going up and down, which they do a bit, but gosh, 100% of the time you continue to enlarge as you gestate until the birth of your child.
Most women do not forget when they are due, make up different stories and have bellies that go from big to little then never really get big at all.
I have seen pregnant women ranging from 11 (thanks Dad) to over 48. I think I’ve got a decent handle on the gestational department. If thinking this big ass faker and stealer of all things Beowulf makes me unqualified to practice, I feel for you. Have you seen those clips??? Maybe you’d change your mind about her.
I have never doubted any celeb before this one. Even when Kelly Preston was rumored to be using a surrogate, I didn’t buy it, She has obvious weight gain all over, large breasts and a full face and swollen ankles, all symptoms of late term pregnancy.
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OMG OT!!! That fetus growing outside the womb-thing sounds SCARY!!!! Did the baby survive?
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Congrats to you Tiffany, but we aren’t all the genetic decendents of Red Sonja.
I find it VERY odd that somehow B missed out on ANY side effect of pregnancy that would prove that she was pregnant. That’s either INCREDIBLE luck, or fakery.
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I’m going to answer for the OriginalTiffany and say that no, the baby obviously did not survive.
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Oh… How sad
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OMG, I’m sooo sorry! I thought ‘petrified fetus’ meant scared fetus, which was extremely idiotic of me, but I googled it and apparently it means a mummified fetus. I’ll have nightmares over that one.
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I’m sorry, that had me totally cracking my up! Yes, it petrified into a bony “thing”. Really weird. We like to keep weird files on strange cases. You know, like two liter coke bottles up a rectum, etc. Sometimes funny, sometimes gross. What’s sadder is the 11 year old pregnant by her FATHER!
Please don’t confuse Tiffany of the Red Sonja type with this Original Tiffany. The new fad? Having a baby while picking cotton and then ya just keep on going!
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Wow! Those are some crazy cases! I hope that father got what he deserved! 11 years is just a baby! Damn! Kinda puts this whole Beyonce baby-crap in perspective…
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this is simultaneously the most hilarious and disturbing thread i have ever read on this site. kudos to all.
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Wow, Tiffany. If you only gained 7 lbs during your first pregnancy it is pretty suprising that you gave birth to a healthy child. The fluid alone weighs more than that. Most doctors agree that a weight gain of around 20 pounds is optimal for both mother and child.
Tiffany, you are by far not an expert on pregnancy and child birth. It’s nothing that a sexually active 14 year old can’t do. From what you describe, if it is actually true, your children managed to survive to birth in spite of, not because of, your insanely over the top exercise regimen during pregnancy. Exercise is good-what you describe is NOT good.
I see that there are actual health care professionals with, you know, credentials and tremendous experience posting here. I think that most people with a brain will do two things:
1. Give their posts credence over yours
2. Laugh their asses off that anyone seriously believes that Bey actually gave birth to a child. There is no question that a surrogate was involved and I just wonder how long it will be before the surrogate’s identity is discovered and a book deal is in place.
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Row, row, row your boat, gently up the stream. Backlash,backlash,Backlash,backlash you vapid drama queen.
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When I went to the hospital to deliver my son, no one that saw me knew I was more than 3 months. I did all the things I used to do because I never was a drinker or smoker. With that said, I just wish them the best with the new baby. I would that we would remember that we don’t have a dime or a sperm in on that situation. #ijs
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That’s awesome for you gals that never looked pregnant. BUT, By looked Oh so preggo in AUGUST (only at the VMA’s, at her vid shoot the same month she was skinny as a rail.)last year! Now you are going to claim she just wasn’t showing at full term. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? Did you check out the footage of her leaping into a huge SUV recently? It’s laughable.
Like B’s bod didn’t have boooty and thighs before? Those women always seem to gain all over when pregnant. Even Posh looked HUGE compared. And Halle, Heidi, etc. Check out those clips.
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I have ALWAYS believed in Santa and Easter Bunny. Surely I believe them…
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LOL – don’t you believe in the tooth fairy either?
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I’ve had multiple miscarriages, but I still bounced around on a dance floor while pregnant with my son. I lived a normal life, I even had the occasional glass of wine (with my doctor’s ok). And a week before he was born, I walked across town. Also, at 26 weeks I look pregnant, but at 28 weeks I didn’t and then by 30 I did again. Babies shift.
I didn’t find labour peaceful, but my friend had a natural birth and described it as exhilarating and that she laughed from joy.
I’m just saying I think she was pregnant.
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Thankyou! A voice of reason! Everyone seems to want to put every pregnant woman in a box of “This is what pregnant women look like!” and “This is what pregnant women are supposed to do and no do!” And it’s just damn ridiculous. There are so many variables that literally no two pregnancies in this world are the same. Hell, Michelle Duggar will tell you that and she’s had a couple dozen pregnancies herself.
Regarding the “peaceful and natural” delivery: It’s possible, I guess. I once had a coworker that said that childbirth was a ‘magical experience’ and she actually experienced orgasms during childbirth. It’s amazing what you forget about your delivery after you see your beautiful baby, tho.
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@Michelle, I think she was pregnant too. Mariah Carey was like 8 months pregnant with twins. Didn’t stop her from dancing on stage.
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Michelle, I think she was pregnant too. Mariah Carey was like 8 months pregnant with twins. Didn’t stop her from dancing on stage.
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Mimi didn’t dance. Hell, she can barely walk without help even when not pregnant. Too funny!!
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O.K., she’s lying. If you are devastated after a miscarriage, there’s no way you don’t treat the next preganancy with extreme caution and care. Also- I knew that if she came out and gave a glowing description of a peaceful, calm birth, she was again, lying. Beyonce wants everyone to think that she does things better than everyone else- no pain for her! Money, money, money! Most hospital administrator’s will do anything for cash to keep their hospital going.
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I so agree with your comment, and if one has half a brain they know all she is: is a usless fat twat stuck on lies.
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Jeebus, Goopy is really rubbing off on her, isn’t she? They’re both INSUFFERABLE.
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That depends on the reason for the miscarriage. Birth defects vs. incompetent cervix. So yes, she could have been given the go ahead by her doctor.
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It bothers me that, if they had indeed used a surrogate, they weren’t open about it. I mean, people do it all the time. There’s no shame attached to it. Why be weird about it? If they just said that was the deal, I’m pretty sure no one would give a rat’s ass. But then again, maybe that was the point – to have people talking.
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The look on Beyonce’s face when her fake belly slipped during that interview in Australia said it all. Everything else is just supporting evidence. Whatever the reason for the poor choice to pretend, I feel sorry for her even though her fans (of which I am not) don’t deserve to be lied to on so many levels.
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The Australian show that this came from did a follow up story on the dress incident where they show the moment from different angles and it was actually the dress that moved not the belly.
The very fact that her bump size seemed to go up and down proves to me that it wasn’t fake. With all that money wouldn’t they do a better job of faking it?
I think B just started hiding her shape more because of all the negative attention at what should have been a happy time.
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do you know where we can find this video?
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Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DY7-ofHlds
Basically it just says that they analyzed their footage and that they couldn’t get a clear shot (convinient) of Bey’s bump. Then they go on saying that they believe she’s pregnant because Beyonce was – gag – ”glowing”.
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The statement doesn’t say Beyonce herself gave birth. It just says the baby was born naturally. It’s deliberately vague.
Also, the song is a nice idea, but what about Jay’s son? Way to make him feel like the lesser child.
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Agree 100%! I HATE deadbeat dads (or moms for that matter) And the fact that Blue Ivy is being favoured so obviously must really hurt the little boy.
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Yes, very hurtful. His son’s birth was secretive, while his daughter’s is a freakin’ “national event.” It’s disgusting.
(I have read that he pays child support for his son, or he did at one time.)
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I think he paid the mom a million bucks to keep her quiet… But that still doesn’t replace a loving and caring parent. Trust me, I speak from experience.
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Wow. I think its incredibly ignorant for people to be saying she didn’t give birth. Why speculate when you don’t have any proof? People won’t even give her the benefit of a doubt! Instead people want to belief the worst based on so called collapsing bump which I watched and all I saw was a dress folding. Changing bumb sizes which is ridiculous because I’m not even pregnant and depending on the day and what I am wearing I can have a pooch. I think that the song released by Jay-z gives a lot of evidence that that their child was delivered by beyonce. He reveals she was conceived in Paris and the next day Beyonce did the photoshoot for her album. If people really think Jay would go out of his way to make a song to convince us of a lie, they are really losing it. The emotion in the song is real. All the other rumours that came out after the childs birth have been dispelled. People are so quick to make up ridiculous details about them spending 1.3 mill for an entire floor and her having a c-section and then criticise them for both. When they reveal it’s not true no one believes them or the hospital I guess. I wish them the best. It’s wonderful that they have a healthy happy child.
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Didn’t Jay’s jumpoff live in France? Who’s to say you didn’t go international for the IVF if you didn’t want it on the news. Conception does take place in petri dishes too.
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Yes, OT, she does. AND she already has a 9-year-old son with Jay.
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Hmmm, Bellaluna. That’s what I thought. Maybe this baby WAS conceived in Paris:)
Interesting coincidence, isn’t it?
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Jay-z does not have another child he goes on and in constantly in songs and interviews about how his dad abandoned him and he would never do the same. Which is why he says he waited to be a dad because he didn’t want to make the same mistake and after he had an ex who had a miscarriage he took fatherhood very seriously. So yeah of he had a kid he would claim him. Publicly
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1. I can’t believe that so many intelligent seeming people think this pregnancy was fake.
2. Do you guys believe the Illuminati stuff as well?
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A baby is a blessing no matter how you stack and no matter how it came into the world. At least the baby is alive and safe and is going to have a fantastic life. And why are people being so awful about her having a miscarriage or not? It’s an awful big accusation to say she’s lying about it. I don’t really come in here to defend people, but I don’t understand why so much shade is being thrown. Who cares if she carried it or not?
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I dont believe this miscarriage story any more than I do her pregnancy charade.
There’s another blind item that their publicist told them to play the victim to gain their fans back. Funny how their divulging so much of their private life after being so “private” for so long. I think the whole thing from the pregnancy to this was all to put Bey back in the spotlight again.
Here’s the blind item from Blind Gossip (not that this means anything but it makes absolute sense)
This couple is seriously out of touch. They think that everyone should love and admire them, even when they lie and behave arrogantly. So they are genuinely surprised when their own missteps cause bad publicity.
How to quiet the haters? Their publicist has the answer! In an emergency meeting with the couple, the publicist told them to play the victim. So, to turn this situation around, they will be very quickly and consciously releasing news of past hardships to elicit sympathy. How could anyone pick on such wonderful people who have worked so hard and suffered so much to get where they are today? Shame on all you haters out there! You’re all just jelly!
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RE: the song, I was listening to the hip hop station in my town this morning and one of the dj’s/program director made a good point, Jay-z and Bey are business people first and foremost & then entertainers. Baby blue was given her first credit (read ROYALTIES) at less than a week old on this song. I do believe they are very happy for their child, but everything about this pregnancy & birth have seemed all about publicity, a promotional tour. The program director made a good point, if this song had come out in a months time, it would seem more geniune. With it being only what, 2 days later, it seems inauthentic. & yes, it would be mighty convenient to mention a miscarriage to deflect attention from the pregnancy conspirators. If it’s true, it’s horrible, but I don’t put it past ANYONE to lie about something awful especially with much to lose. Finally, the dj mentioned and I agree for a couple that has been SO private about their whole relationship, this pregnancy is more like promotional tour for an album release than a happy first time pregnancy (for her, poor son, even the DJ was saying it’s jay’s first son, which many other posters have commented, it’s not)
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I delivered my son in late April, and I didn’t show much at all. I mostly looked a little bloated. I will openly admit that I had to conceal my pregnancy from my employer(I found out I was pregnant 2 days after I started a new job), and I became very good at learning which outfits concealed and which ones showed the small bump. I got away without wearing maternity clothes, BUT I think I am in the minority here. Beyonce is what,maybe 115 pounds? Most small women show much sooner. I don’t understand why they wouldn’t openly admit surrogacy when so many other celebs have,though.
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You know what conspiracy theorists? Do you honestly think Lenox Hill hospital would risk its’ reputation and legitimacy by being complicit in a fake birth? You can’t just pay a hospital a bunch of money, take up space, have medical staff on red alert FOR A FAKE DELIVERY. Nor would they fake a birth certificate. This was a real pregnancy, not a surrogate or pillow baby, get over it.
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right, but if the surrogate was the one actually giving birth, the hospital can’t violate HIPPA and talk about that either
it’s tricky
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Yes, but HIPAA or no HIPAA, it’s still too much of a risk for a public person like Beyonce. Sure as $h!t, some nurse would end up writing a tell-all book and cashing in on the experience.
She had a baby. End of story.
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And privacy rules would prevent them from discussing how delivery by elective C-section suddenly became a natural birth. I can tell she was preggo, I believe she was padding a few times there for effect. I had both children vaginally without medication. Even if I had meds, that would still be a natural birth to me just assistance with pain. I believe she chose to have a C-section for vain reasons, but it could possibly have been medical. We are all speculating. Something tells me Jay is gonna be reprimanded for talking about miscarriage. Song could very well have been a surprise, and she may not be happy about that tid bit being released cuz she portrays herself as private. Stop with this most beautiful girl and Beyonce is the most stunning woman stuff. We all would like that with make up team etc. There are some gorgeous regular folks in the world and private chefs, trainer, hairstylist, oodles of money could easily elevate us to whatever status people have been putting her on. She is blessed with talent and beauty, yes; many of us have the beauty part. Don’t let this world make us think we are less than.
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A nurse could lose her license and probably be prosecuted for a HIPAA violation like that. No way.
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That’s kinda naive. People would do anything for the right amount of cash, not everyone has your standard of morals.
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BTW, yes it would violate all HIPAA laws. BUT, hospitals fudge names all the times for all sorts of reasons. We routinely had Jane and John Does or other AKAs in for treatment. Usually to protect them from rival gangs finding out what room they were in to get revenge and kill them off. It happens ALL the time. Famous people get their names changed or covered up. I remember doing a study on Gene Autry before his death under an alias because of his son insisting on it while Gene was could care less who knew he was there.
Hospitals cover LOTS of stuff, believe me.
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But everyone does have access to a lawyer – who would tell any hospital worker who wanted to go to the press that they would be sued for far more than they could ever hope to make from their story.
Broke AND unemployable? Not worth it.
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Um, the hospital DID accept the money. And as far as I’m concerned, their reputation went out the window A) when other new parents (peons) were denied access to their family & the NICU; and B) by allowing this whole security circus fiasco to go down.
I don’t think a birth was faked, but it wasn’t Bey giving birth. The parents-to-be are allowed to be with the surrogate if she so chooses.
There was a birth, but it wasn’t Bey doin’ the birthin’.
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Am I the only one who thought Jay-Z’s song was total crap? Maybe he should have taken an extra day to work on it a little more, and not be in such a rush to put it out there. But when you are a famewhore…
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I am with you 100%. I didn’t read your post until after I’d posted mine, but I concur. It was just stupid. LOL.
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i just can’t help but think about this poor kids life – 10, 15 20yrs from now when the world watches as she develops into a Jayz-mini-me
that’s sad do’nt think plastics will help that
the world can be a very judgemental and mean place under those circumstances
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Did that song make anyone else giggle? I am not very knowledgeable about popular music these days, but is this stuff considered “good?” Is this the kind of work he usually churns out? And he’s a “mogul” why?
That being said, I don’t think she faked her pregnancy. That’s a huge risk for someone who is in the public eye as much as she is. Although I do believe she and her family to be tacky as hell and to exploit every aspect of life possible. Which is why I also believe that she did wear items that enhanced the look of her pregnancy bump when she wasn’t showing as much as she would have liked (i.e. Australia incident) in an effort to garner more attention and take over the limelight.
I am truly sorry for their earlier loss, but I hardly think including it the way Jay-Z did in that stupid, stupid “song” was the way to go. Just one more way to exploit their very “private” lives to gain sympathy and in the end, more attention.
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OMG, Beyonce isn’t 115lbs!!! She’s a GIANT of a woman (tall, I mean) and also big-boned. She’s got sexy hips and curves for days. I won’t guess at her weight, but it sure as hell isn’t 115!!
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I believe Beyonce is 5’7″. Not a giant.
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LOL! I was like ‘If she’s a GIANT then what am I.’ I’m 5’11.
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Though she always had some bust, many pics point to implants which give her that more voluptuous appearance. She has also been busted wearing butt/hip padding. 19 20 just out of teen years and hormones fluctuating, yeah, she could have been considered bootylicious. Though her weight fluctuates like any normal person, it is smoke and mirrors that the public has bought. She is not the woman with curves that go on for days as many believe. At least not naturally, though her perogative for surgeon and padding assistance. Everything is not as it appears.
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Its weird that celebs are being targeted for fake pregnancies…is there proof any celeb has actually done this? I think it started with Nicole Kidman…which I do suspect she faked her second pregnancy…some story lainey did on how her sister had a baby around the same time she did and was supposedly pregnant with twins…I don’t know.
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Nicole admitted she used a surrogate for her second daughter. I think if what we see doesn’t jive with a “typical pregnancy” ( no such thing) or if people are mistrustful of the person telling the story people won’t believe it regardless of any proof. I wish people would just let these 2 go about their business and stop trying to convince people that they are wrong either way. People are going to believe what they want.
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Um-considering that Kidman didn’t pretend to be pregnant a second time (she freely admitted to using a surrogate with baby #2), I think you’re a bit confused. Also, Sarah Jessica Parker used a surrogate for her girls. There’s no shame at all in using a surrogate. Families are formed all sorts of different ways.
Faking a pregnancy while using a surrogate, which is precisely what this silly, vain and useless “singer” did is, well, silly and vain.
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Not only that but it sounds like a total waste of time, effort and money. I can’t imagine Beyonce being that much of a famewhore that she would go so far to fake her own pregnancy.
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It just seems too… perfect. Awesome pregnancy (no stories of morning sickness) + minimal weight gain (just the normal balloon at the end) + early due date (but no complications?) + natural delivery.Its just…perfect. Like she had the dream pregnancy (besides giseles) and i just cant help but think that she doesnt have any pregnancy STORIES (except the food but any never been pregnant idiot can make that up)
Pregnancy was wild for me. Even if i didnt have a difficult pregnancy (which i did, mine sucked)i still had sensations and feelings that i have never felt since, and shared with everybody, and other pregnant women have been there too.
It just seems like she watched a movie about a pregnant chick giving birth and thats what we heard back.
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I wouldn’t have believed the surrogate story if not for the bizarre photos of that interview and a couple other pics. She never really looked pregnant, instead she looked she was carrying a pillow. I still only half-believe it, in other words, I think it’s possible she did fake it and they used a surrogate. On that note, why hide that? It’s still Beyonce’s eggs and JayZ’s sperm, so 100% their child.
If there are no pics released of Beyonce in a bed looking like she just gave birth, I’ll believe the rumors more, lol.
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why hide it? to be perfect number 1. just like, why now give credit to the people who wrote your songs? half of them suck anyway…to be perfect. to be number 1. why crush the singles of the other DC members? to be number 1. Shes no saint. Thats a good reason not to believe her
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I don’t really think too much about this but if I were to give a “coming from my gut” answer, it would be that I think a surrogate was used.
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High belly, low belly, crumpling belly, C-section, natural birth… The first press announcement I read stated that Beyonce had a successful scheduled C-section on Saturday, and then it seems as though someone informed her/them that that would mean that Beyonce couldn’t perform at the (Grammy?) awards show 5 weeks later (you know, with weeks of rehearsals and all), so the next announcement read that it had been a natural birth.
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Does it creep anybody else out that the baby has only been born for three days and she’s already credited on one of her parent’s songs. I mean, nice that he wanted to do this, but keep that shiz to yourself Jay. You used to be so PRIVATE, remember.
Sidenote: Crappy, choppy song. Spend a little more than one day next time, Jay.
Extra sidenote: The truth doesn’t mean the whole truth.
Maybe they didn’t pay 1.3 million. Maybe they paid more/less. The baby was delivered naturally. Didn’t say Beyonce was the one giving birth. There was a miscarriage. Was Beyonce the one miscarrying? Was it extremely emotional or peaceful! Pick one!
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I assume they are going to throw a parade when she turn 1. I already imagine baby blue to be like Willow Smith.
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Happy for Beyonce & Jay. Sorry they lost their first child. Glad baby Blue is healthy. Wish them all a good, long life.
All this vitriol over the birth of a baby is ridiculous.
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I worked in a hospital, yes, they would risk their reputation, hospitals cover up their own crap worse than this, all the time, why wouldn’t they co-operate with these two idiots if they paid them substantial amount of money.
Obviously the stomach pillow folding thing exposed this fake pregnancy from the start, and now it’s a done deal.
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Ding, ding, ding! Thanks for confirming. Yes, those of us in the medical industry can tell you that very shady stuff goes down ALL the time.
OTOH, obviously I am home with a cold and have way too much time on my hands today. And the medicine keeps making my typing crap!
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I think she’s been pregnant before, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she has had an abortion.
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this pic http://www.popsugar.com/Pregnant-Beyonce-Knowles-Baby-Bump-Bikini-Pictures-18995310?page=0,0,0#4
looks like a prostetic …look at her sides..
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The belly “skin” in these pix is a different color and texture than her chest and thighs and arms! There’s no sweat sheen to the prosthetic area either. Then in that last photo of her, a side view, it’s not even sticking out.
The look in her eyes, directly into the camera, is so precocious – getting off on the charade.
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I remember when these photos first came out, and I called bs then! She has access to theatrical makeup ppl. It looked very katherine heigl in Knocked up-ish to me. Close but no cigar. STUNT QUEEN!
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Blue Ivy sounds like an amazing stripper name. Just saying.
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I don’t really care whether she was pregnant or not, but the song seems tacky to me. Writing a song about the birth of your daughter is fine I guess, but putting it out the day after she was born? It just screams exploitation and famewhoring. Why not keep it private and take some time with the baby before you use her as material for your career? Even if he’s not making money off this song, he’s cashing in on the PR of having a baby with Beyonce.
And yeah, as others said, it seems disrespectful to his other kid, who isn’t treated as some kind of miracle because his mom isn’t Beyonce. It’s like Jay Z and Beyonce are suddenly trading on this image of themselves as the royal couple of hiphop, almost deity-like, whereas before, I thought they used to be really private about their relationship?
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Has it been confirmed that Jay really has another child? I keep seeing people state this as if it’s a fact, but he never talks about having a kid so…
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Seriously?! You guys are still going on about whether or not she actually had her baby? Um, hello? Does anyone remember her baby bump bikini photos? Also I think Beyonce had a tendancy to wear baggy and dark colored clothing throughout her pregnancy which would have caused her bump to 1)look smaller and 2)for the dress to bunch up in the front (possibly causing it to…I don’t know…fold over in the front giving off the impression it was her belly). Jay-Z being the douche he is probably laid down the law about making sure she didn’t get fat afterwards so she was also very self conscious about what she ate and had a smaller bump.
Look, I don’t know what everyone’s deal is but this obsession with whether or not Bey was really pregnant but it really needs to stop. I’m sorry she doesn’t fit society’s conditioned view of what a pregnant woman looks like. Having just returned from North Africa where I saw 9 month pregnant women look the way a 3 month pregnant woman looks in the United States, I can assure you, Bey was pregnant.
Thanks for making me defend Beyonce everyone. This is all coming from a person who cannot stand Beyonce.
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well i didn’t believe the rumours but after they closed off an entire floor of the hospital, while they could have had the natural birth at home, seemed suspicious! besides she never had pregnant bikini photos. she was wearing a translucent beach dress over her bikini. why would she walk around like that in the heat, and not take it off and maybe go for a swim? and i have seen plenty of pregnant women swim so that is no excuse. it’s all shady
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No there was an actual photo of her in a binki and her bare pregnant belly sticking out. It was even on this site.
The closing off of the maternity ward was stupid and immature but she never said she had the baby at home, just that it was natural.
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even if i was not believing this before,but to me these pics are showing,no?
http://icecreamconvos.com/baby-bump-beyonce-jay-z-mama-tina-juelz-in-miami/
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her belly is covered up in those
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Here’s the sentence that should be emphasized in your statement:
“Jay-Z being the douche he is probably laid down the law about making sure she didn’t get fat afterwards so she was also very self conscious about what she ate and had a smaller bump.”
I can 100% see that. Let’s face it, Beyonce is Jay Z’s trophy wife and I can see him telling her not to allow herself to get fat. Having a fat wife on his shoulder would make Jay Z. There’s something about Jay Z that I have never liked or trusted, I assume you feel the same way, LeeLoo. I think the biggest player in this whole affair with the security is Jay Z. I don’t think Beyonce can even make a decision on her own anymore. I always got the feeling she signed her rights away as a human being when she married him.
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Why would you announce something so painful and personal on the most joyous occasion of your life? The skeptic in me feels that this is a PR move, so that people will feel sorry for them and stop talking about their new child, Pillow Ivy.
That said, IF they really did lose a first child, my heart goes out to them. It’s an awful experience.
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I wonder if Jay Z will refer to his own daughter as a “bitch” now, as he has done with so many other women.
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Good call.
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excellent point. but no one will ever call him on it. he gets to hang out with Warren Buffet, the Obamas, etc.
(I’m referring to Dena’s comment, but I clicked the wrong reply box)
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I am sure he will, after all he swears in the song he wrote for her. Very impressive, NOT!
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in that beach photo Beyonce stomach looks like this everytime she eats a bucket of KFC chicken, after that photo there were never any photos of her bare stomach during late stages of pregnancy. Which is very unusual, a store she shops in confirmed that her belly size (pillow) changed every time she came into their store.
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Hmmm? And the theories swirl and swirl.
Personally I do not care if she was actually pregnant or not but truth be told I am leaning towards no…
The pillow incident was too obvious. The photo of her on the beach. If I remember correctly this photo came out shortly after she revealed that she was pregnant. Her belly in that dress she did the big reveal in looked bigger there. The bikini belly doesn’t look much smaller than where she looked at 7 months. If there is one thing I know about pregnant bellies its that they only get bigger. They are high, they are low but they get bigger and bigger.
This will be a conspiracy theorists heaven for many, many moons!
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Never really cared much about this “fake pregnancy” business (yes, bumps move/change!), but this latest news about previous miscarriage & natural birth seem a little, I dunno, press-driven which casts some suspicion.
And releasing a song right after the birth is totally crass, tacky and exploitative of an innocent infant. Sure he’s got a right to convey his happiness through his chosen profession, but just ewww.
Still, a healthy baby is a blessing no matter how it came into the world. I’m sure she will be loved, as Bey/Jay seem to be a happy couple.
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never realized how many insane morons with too much free time actually read cb. thx for the lolz
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I’ll tell you why she changed it to natural birth cuz when you have a C-section they order you to bed rest, no wearing high heels and you just have to take it easy as you heal. She knew it won’t fly with the public that she is back on her feet like that so she changed it. This couple is so fake they make me want to throw up, honestly. All those lies, but God knows the truth and that’s what matters.
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@arock
I’ll be more than happy to oblige. While Beyoncé is a tremendous performer and singer, she happens to lie on occasion, and always gets busted for it. She claims to have been educated in a ‘private school’, then homeschooled by her father. LIE.
She credited herself as a co-writer on ‘If I Were a Boy’ when the song came to her team as an already written AND performed song when she re-recorded it. She’s credited as a writer on ‘Ego’ when Christette Michelle says that she turned it down for her debut album. Lie. She claims to have written Irreplaceable (“I’m sure people think I wrote it about [...]) when NeYo wrote it. Lie.
She called her Iam…World Tour DVD her directorial debut, saying that the only help she had was in getting around using Final Cut Pro (no joke). Lie.
Her performance at last years Billboard Awards was a rip off of some italian singer.
Her Single Ladies concept was a rip off of other’s hard work, same for countdown. There’s nothing original about Beyoncé.
She’s a very good, beautiful, hard working singer/performer, but I wouldn’t call her original. If you didn’t write a song, stop claiming that you did by addiding a mere two words to the song and then get the papar off it. Because we all know how money is made these days. Songwriting.
For example, for all her faults, you never hear Britney being accused of stealing, lying and cheating to get credit on a song. Heck even the Academy Awards committee had to shut her down about the credit for ‘Listen’.
She’s been getting away with it for so long but I think that now she pushed it too far.
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….Her Single Ladies concept was a rip off of other’s hard work….
that would be Bob Fosse. please see you tube below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz7InzhwJTo
the black/white colours and lighting, plus the loetards, are all Bob Fosse.
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I still don’t believe she was pregnant. Everything she did or said during that pregnancy was nothing a pregnant woman would do. The picture in the bikini doesn’t convince me either. Too many anomalies and back tracking…changing due dates…belly shrinking and folding(it was NOT the dress…because where does her belly go? It literally disappears!) The bouncing into the SUV just days before she “had” the baby. The flying and dancing and the improper way she would go to sit down…all NOTHING a pregnant woman (who has had miscarriages as well) would do. Sorry…just can’t bring myself to believe it. Remember…these people are famewhores with TONS of money who can buy whatever they want. Including a fake pregnancy.
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TOTALLY AGREE !
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I am board with all of this; however, how do you keep a bevy of hospital personnel quiet? Threaten/bribe? Still, that has to be a lot of people.
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From what I hear that hospital they went to is known for catering to the stars. So I don’t know…do with that what you will. Most everyone is shady these days…including I am sure…some hospital personnel. They probably brought in their own personal doctor who brought in his buddies and they kept it all hush hush with security keeping people away, etc. I don’t know. Nothing they have done this whole time makes any sense.
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Two words: Confidentiality. Agreements.
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Thanks, Novaraen. By the way, remember when Brad and Angie had a Los Angeles doctor flown to Africa to assist in Shiloh’s birth? Also, Hollywood can make life-like prosthetics; i.e, Beyonce’s belly in two piece bathing suit.
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It’s called HIPAA. Privacy law. You break them and you are fined, lose your ability to practice medicine, etc.
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THEY NEW TO GO AWAY,TAKE OFF “WORK”
AND TAKE CARE OF THE BABY… THIS ISNT A RACE TO SEE HOW MAMA WILL LOOK IN 3MONTHS,WE ALL KNOW THE BEST PLASTIC SURGEON ON THE PLANET ALREADY TOOK CARE OF THAT.PLEASE STAY HOME BOTH OF YOU ..
BYE -BYE…AFTER THE STUNT YOU PULLED ON THE OTHER FAMILY`S IN THAT HOSPITAL
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.WE DONT CARE ANYMORE.YOU ARE NOW LIKE THE KARDASIANS
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Jay-Z’s song mentions child conceived in Paris; someone could check and see if Beyonce was in Paris 9 months ago. (I am too lazy to do it).
Also, Jay-Z is a jillionaire for this dribble song he just produced ….isn’t that just special?
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They were. For their 3rd anniversary. Easier to find surrogate overseas, no?
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20483797,00.html
Did he seriously make money off that song?
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Thanks for informing me about Paris. Guess I worded the song comment incorrect. I worded the song comment incorrectly. Doubt he did make money on it; meant all the music he produces. (I am being tacky).
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Your welcome! I actually think you’re on to something. Jay’s a business man first and he’ll definately find a way to profit from it. Soon that song is gonna be up on Itunes. Probably a month from now when he’s actually spent some TIME on the damn thing instead of smacking some words and a lousy beat together.
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That’s also where Jay’s girlfriend lives. And they already have a 9 year-old son together.
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So the girlfriend could just as well be the surrogate… Hmmmm
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Nice. Why talk about a miscarriage now? Oh so no one can question the validity of the birth.How cruel would that be?
Guess she can’t say c section. To long for her to have to pretend recover. And she would not be able to bask in the new mother lime light.Also no scar. She so was not pregnant. How any one could witness this and defend her and think she was pregnant is beyond me. One only had to see the look in her face when the bump folded in half.The final truth was the last picture of her with fat legs. You could see the padding on the legs. She is a fraud. And that bikini shot was soooo bad. She was huge and round at her Grammy reveal and then the bikini one was so small after.
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I think this stuff about her faking a pregnancy is ridiculous. Why? What is the point? Unfortunately, miscarriages are not all that uncommon, especially with a first pregnancy, so I certainly don’t see that having anything to do with it.
As far as any info about the pregnancy changing, well we all know just how reliable everything we read is, don’t we? Just because some web site or some magazine says something or claims it came from Beyonce or her husband, doesn’t mean it does.
Having said, I also believe they could have either put out vague info or misleading info for privacy. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out if you don’t want the papps stalking you til your due date, you fudge on when you are due. She and her husband deserve some privacy during a time like this and sometimes you do what you gotta do to get it.
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If they really wanted privacy, she wouldn’t have POSED on the VMA’s red carpet holding her belly and THEN dropped the mic at the end of her performance, to rub her belly in front of millions. The epitome of famewhoring.
Beyoncé is one of those celebrities that I’ve always credited for ONE thing only: she did value her privacy and proved it over and over again. She got married in secret, and for years never refered Jay-Z as her boyfriend or husband. THAT was being private.
This time, she was all over town, running in them heels, promoting her perfume, DVD, posing for the world to see. Not that she isn’t entitled to do so, but please. She could have done a Nicole Kidman and not bother denying the rumours at all, but she HAD to get a video out of her holding a newspaper with her on it, as if to laugh off the haters?! Privacy? Please.
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By privacy I meant not being forthcoming about the due date, things like that. I didn’t expect her to go into hiding and not show her belly. I respect celebrities who do not respond at all when hounded about whether they are pregnant or not, but by the same token if she wants to show off her belly I don’t see any harm in that.
That doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to not be specific about the due date, which in turn could be confusing about how far along she was at any given time.
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Meh, these people bore the hell out of me. They’re not messiahs, just another couple who had a baby… and every baby is special. Why they get this much fanfare is way beyond me.
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How do we know He’s talking about Beyonce having a miscarraige. His pevious girlfriend had a miscarrage. He’s rapped about it numerous times.
It’s like ’93, ’94, bout the year
that Big and Mag dropped; and “Illmatic” rocked
outta every rag drop, and the West had it
locked
Everybody doin ‘em, I’m still scratchin on the
block
like “Damn; I’ma be a failure”
Surrounded by thugs, drugs, and drug -
paraphenalia
Cops courts, and their thoughts is to derail
us
Three time felons in shorts with jealous
thoughts
Tryin figure where your mail is, guesstimate the
weight you sellin
So they can send shots straight to your melon;
wait!
It gets worse, baby momma water burst
Baby came out stillborn, still I gotta move
on
Though my heart still torn, life gone from her
womb
Don’t worry, if it was meant to be, it’ll be –
soon
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OMG, listen to this and you will lose all respect for the three-ring circus Bey and Jay turned that hospital into and the callous way families with babies in neonatal intensive care were treated:
http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/22305/Parents-of-premature-twins-accuse-Beyonce-and-Jay-Z-security-of-blocking-them-from-seeing-babies
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Non story, he goes running to the press but doesn’t complain to the hospital?
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They did. They were ignored. The hospital mouthpiece claimed no knowledge of any such thing. All they wanted was an apology. When they didn’t get one, he went to the press.
End of story.
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@Jaded, thanks for providing the link to that audio of the one couple that were complaining of all the problems they experienced.
I am sickened and disgusted after hearing this couples’s experience. They had babies in the NICU Unit & security cameras were taped over…..all kind of nonsense.
I’m sorry, but Beyonce & Jay-Z are NOT important people. They’re #%*@! entertainers…..that is all! And normal, everyday people get pushed around like they are not important…like they do not have rights, because they were unlucky enough to have babies in the same hospital that Beyonce & Jay-Z had their effin surrogate mother to birth their child. It is not right at all!
Just because Bey & Jay-Z want to hide what they perceive as their “dirty little secret” from the world, new parents are now at risk of their own children possibly being abducted from the hospital? I’d sue the shit out of them….that’s for sure.
I certainly do believe the hospital made “special accommodations” for Bey & Jay-Z. Wow…$$$ can buy all sorts of things. Again, it sickens & disgusts me!!!
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Disgusting.
Hope the hospital gets lots of flack so other hospitals will know people don’t tolerate this crap.
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So the song said she got pregnant in Paris. A quick Google search showed she was in Paris around April 22. Which would put her due date at January 13th. She had the baby on the 7th.
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So what? Some people go early, some later.
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Well it would mean that she wasn’t due in February like it was reported she said.
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I can’t find any place where SHE says she’s due in February.
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I am wrong. She didn’t say she was due in Feb. The reporter in the infamous bump interview did.
ANYWAY, my point is, the Feb due date was probably sent out to throw people off so they wouldn’t be on baby watch. Didn’t work though.
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Welcome to the world Baby B.I.C.
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That was the best post so far!!! Thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Unfortunately the facts do not add up. When on suffers a miscarriage . One is asked to take it easy when one is pregnant again. Bed rest and nothing strenuous. So I am to believe she did all the dancing video’s and all the high heels and shopping up to the end. And she suffered a miscarriage? Please think people.
Look at this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw339zD8aqE&feature=related
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Can we please stop arguing about whether Beyonce was really pregnant or not (because nobody is going to change their opinion at this point) and get angry about Bey and Jay taking over the hospital. Because these two entitled assholes barred the peasants from seeing their babies. Seriously. These assholes.
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Co-SIGN!
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Third.
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The unmitigated gall of these two narcissists taking over the hospital floor/wing/NICU & denying parents access to premie twins has firmly cemented my (admittedly already) very low opinion of them.
- They spent the last 2 months remodeling her “recovery suite.
- They covered security cameras. (Better to hide the surrogate.)
- They had extensive security & created general chaos for everyone around them.
- They still have not addressed the parents who were denied access to their premie twins in the NICU.
- They had others’ family members denied access to their loved ones.
She wasn’t pregnant any more than he was.
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No doubt! I totally agree. My rant is a few comments above. I am totally disgusted.
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Good points.
Beyonce went from cool to meh, to vapid and now to extremely annoying.
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Beyonce success is largely based on manufactured “talent”. She is not anything special without all the add-ons and gimmicks. Her career is EVERYTHING to her and she’s proved that time and time again. That she married JayZ is no surprise as his career is EVERYTHING to him, as well.
I feel sorry for the baby because like Fame-monger Mama Mariah Carey they’ll use their child for even more publicity. Not now, of course, because it’s running well on it’s own but you watch – one day the kid is going to bring in even more millions for momsey and popZ.
As far as her delivering the child herself, not enough valid info out there yet. What really matters, though, is Beyonce is not what she appears. At all.
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Lol! You made that sound like once the weave, nails and clown paint comes off she’ll look like some green gilled monster with claws…
I’m not entirely against believing this
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Do those entitled idiots have any idea what it is like to have a baby in the NICU? I hope those parents sue the sh** out of them. And I hope that baby looks like Jay Z.
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Exactly! My twin sons were in the NICU when they were born and there would have been hell to pay if someone had tried to keep me from seeing them.
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I believe Beyonce was pregnant. The bikini picture is proof enough for me.
Also.. if she was indeed having a pillow baby, wouldn’t they have been a lot more careful with getting the SIZE of the pillow correct? It isn’t really difficult to wear increasingly bigger pillows to mimic a pregnancy. Why would they keep making the bump go up and down and spark off these rumours?
If ANYTHING, she might have padded it out a *bit* at the awards show so that she could do a ‘big reveal’. Beyond that I don’t think there was any fakery.
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No one else noticed he said the baby was “made in Paris” in the lyrics ? If that is true their due date was pretty accurate, because they were in Paris around the 20th of April. I still think she was pregnant , regardless the weirdness surrounding her pregnancy. Call me naive, whatever. I am not obssessed by it.
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Jay’s model girlfriend also lives in Paris, if I’m not mistaken.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm…
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Wait a sec. Weren’t there pictures of JayZ in Paris where he had a….ummm “Eiffel-Tower” in his pants the whole time. Now I’m wondering even more what got him so excited…
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Now you mentioned it , OMG, it all makes sense now! lol
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“Minimal disruption” to the other families? As in “only enough disruption so that Beyonce had everything she wanted regardless of how it affected others.l Why are they entitled to cause ANY disruption to other families?!
This whole incident has made me lose all respect for these two.
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Are you kidding me? She’s 5’7 and voluptuous “curvy” and just had a 7lb child but didn’t gain hardly any weight?? Look at Jennifer Garner, Jessica Simpson, and Hillary Duff and try again. All of them seem like they’ve been pregnant forever while BEY was pregnant for 15 minutes and barely gained 10lbs?? Her legs, arms, face barely changed at all?? How is this even possible? If she was dainty I might have at least TRIED to believe it. If you can believe she “padded it out a bit” then the whole thing being a fraud can’t be out of the question.
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This thread is a riot. I don’t know who’s more delusional; the true believers or the conspiracy theorists but it’s funny to hear from all the “experts” on both sides. I am just sincerely hoping that Bey adapts some dignity with motherhood and stops dry humping walls in a onsie in all her videos.
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Hahaha, so true.
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So basically the hospital and bodyguards were holding the newborns hostage.
I also think that if it hadn’t been for this whole ‘NO ONE CAN SE WHAT’S GOING ON, SEAL EVERYTHING OFF’- mindset then this whole charade wouldn’t have seemed so shady. My bullshitmeter is about to break!
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“bullshitmeter is about to break”
LOL!
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Who knows, but the woman is one big illusion known for some pretty dishonest tactics. Anything is possible and justifiable to Beyonce. I’m no fan but it’s hard to ignore her massive publicity machine.
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Instead of the usual ‘this is how I got my body back’ feature (which she seems to be able to do tomorrow), it would be more interesting to see a ‘this is how I managed pregnancy so effortless’ story, including pictures of her increasing belly and styling tips on how to dress / hide it, exercises on how to stay in high heels throughout and avoid fatigue, bloating, etc. That would sell like hot cakes and kill any rumors. Somehow though I doubt that will happen…
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I hope with the next pregnancy she invests in better faux bellies. I find them totally offensive. I have miscarried and find it disgusting he wrote that in a song. That is a personal issues for a woman and not gossip for the media. It is heartbreaking. If it is true, which I seriously doubt. I think this is a media deflection.
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Since when do birth announcements include the nature of the birth — natural vs. cesarean? For such a private couple, they’re all about the TMI now.
I’ve thought for some time that these fake-pregnancy rumors have been getting more and more crazy, but the other day, when I read about how Beyoncé couldn’t possibly know about any disruptions at the hospital because (at this point the story was c-section) she was probably lying in bed on meds, I realized I didn’t believe it for a moment. I thought, that chick’s only in bed to take a rest from all the wining and dining they’re doing, waiting for the birth.
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They obviously said it was natural to dispel the rumors. They are damned if they do, damned if they don’t.
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Lol! Hilarious!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsrGxOijz0s&feature=related
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Well I am disgusted by their shennanigans at the hospital. Its horrible and entitled to treat other people like that.
But I still say she was really pregnant.
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No one will have as cute as mariahs angels…. this could get fugly!
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@Lol the only time Mariah danced on stage while she was pregnant with the twins was when she did the disney Christmas parade at 3 months along. from about 5 months until she delivered at 8 due to complications she was on bed rest and on medication to keep the twins in utero as she’d had multiple hospitalizations for premature labor. you can’t compair a single child pregnancy to multiple pregnancy. Bey’s body type is slightly different and she didn’t have complications like Mariah did. Jay revealing their previous loss in the song for Blue was brave has it ever occured to you it was too painful for them to talk about earlier remember when Mariah revealed her earlier miscarriage when she announced her pregnancy with the twins in October 2010 her and Nick both got very emotional because they had kept it private for so long
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Fake.
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Great comment! Short and to the point.
I agree.
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Lol, Firecracker. ITA!
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I’m a doubter. She is not a naturally rail-thin woman (which is fabulous), but the reality is that women that tend to be curvy don’t JUST gain in the belly.
However, at the end of the day, I could care less. Let’s say that they did use a surrogate and she did fake a pregnancy so that people would believe she was pregnant. Okay. Is that better/worse than people that want to adopt children that look like them so nobody asks questions? I guess I just don’t see why it would be the big deal it’s been made to be. If they wanted to have a pretend pregnancy, okay…whatever.
Now, if the stories of the NICU smackdown are true, I would take SERIOUS issue with that and it’s a legitimate indication of narcissism if ever there was one (as a former NICU mom that is a serious hit below the belt).
Faking a pregnancy hurts nobody. Keeping parents from their babies does. One is not, imo, an indication of their moral capacity….one is. I couldn’t care less whether or not she was really pregnant.
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Some of you are SO sick lol I mean why do you care so much if she gave birth or not ? Is she from your family ? How if she lies, which I don’t care at all, is it going to affect your life ? Some of you claim that she’s pathetic but you should re-read yourself, seriously, it’s pathetic AND scary lol I’m talking about some of the many comments I’ve read since the start of this “conspiracy” (LOL)
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Bingo.
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Picture of Beyonce and her baby!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZeKZp69wzk&feature=related
I don’t know if it’s photo-shopped but it was on some kind of news channel too.
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This is getting better and better.
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Lol! Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJFWPR3aQI&feature=related
Interviews with different fathers that experienced ‘The Bodyguards’ (dun dun duuuuuun) aaaand a Dr. who’s the hospitals patient advocate.
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I don’t see how her lying or not affects anyone of you. If you don’t believe it or don’t like her, change the channel or don’t click on the link. Simple as that. People sure do have some strong opinions about this. I don’t get what the huge deal is.
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That song is HORRIBLE. How the hell is he so rich? They pretty much make me sick and no, she wasn’t pregnant. Did you see the video? Pregnant women don’t sit down like she sat down and their bellies don’t FOLD OVER.
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Agreed. Twice over.
Plus, do look at that youtube video of her hopping up in to the SUV and climbing up onto the seat – that was last week Thursday!
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All I can say is may God bless them and what a bundle of joy that the Lord has created!
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Who cares! Can’t stand these idiots! What a stupid name! Assholes!
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I honestly don’t know what to think… but in that pix on the very top it does look like she has something strapped around…doesn’t it? Saying it was delivered normal is also more difficult to prove whether or not she’s telling the truth…i wonder if we will ever know, maybe someone will come forward who was actually THERE!
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Pretty sure she was pregnant. Women carry differently. My best friend, about beyonce’s height (5’7″ both) athletic, long-waisted, carried at 8 months like she had gas. Couldn’t tell she was pregnant. Sorta weird, but I saw her have that 6 lb 6 oz baby…. I bet BIC was a little under 7 lbs.
Remember Cindy Crawford? Carried the same way, small, like she had just drank too much beer. Me? 5’4″ skinny and short waisted? Like a beach ball under my shirt. Poor Jess Simpson, 5’2″ AND curvy AND short waisted? Like the most pregnant woman ever. Bless her heart.
It has alot to do with height and waist (long or short) how a woman carries. And where the baby rides, high or low.
And I think it’s great that they mentioned the miscarriage. It’s a horrible thing to go through and be unable to talk about with people. To suffer in silence, and people not know why you are acting sad or aloof or angry because no one talks about it. Up to 50 percent of conceptions end in miscarriage. I have gone through three myself. I talk about them freely now if it comes up. It should be fine to talk about it in public, not unlike losing a family member or going through any other personal tragedy or setback. It happens ALL the time.Thank you jay z and B for laying it out there.
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wow it looks like i’m luckier than the parents since I just learned she popped out the kid today(wed).
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Enough said about this Blue baby..if she actually gave birth to this child herself.. or a surrogate did..the truth will come out one day..it always does.
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http://thefashionrecords.com/2012/01/its-a-girl-for-beyonces-surrogate-ingrid-jackson/
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