Comments on: Courtney Love confused by Prop 8, happy it passed (update: claims she didn’t) http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:03:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: brianne http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-137835 brianne Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:03:31 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-137835 What I don't understand is HOW ON EARTH IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO VOTE ON THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OF OTHERS!!!?? This makes me crazy, if prop 8 were to say that whites couldn't marry blacks, there would be riots, this is essentially the same thing and yet somehow its okay on a national stage!? WHY?! argh! I love our nation, but sometimes I really desperately HATE how its run! theres my rant for the day! What I don’t understand is HOW ON EARTH IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO VOTE ON THE CIVIL LIBERTIES OF OTHERS!!!?? This makes me crazy, if prop 8 were to say that whites couldn’t marry blacks, there would be riots, this is essentially the same thing and yet somehow its okay on a national stage!? WHY?! argh! I love our nation, but sometimes I really desperately HATE how its run! theres my rant for the day!

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: CB Rawks http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-137541 CB Rawks Mon, 10 Nov 2008 12:12:20 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-137541 To the people that are against gay marriage: If you think gay marriage somehow diminishes your straight marriage, then what YOU have isn't very strong, is it? Perhaps it only has value to you if you make sure no one else can have it? You selfish, soulless, empty shells. "I’m a female with a boyfriend who doesn’t even believe in marriage, but if gays feel emotional about having that right, shouldn’t people applaud their love?" That was lovely, Sasha. Well said. To the people that are against gay marriage: If you think gay marriage somehow diminishes your straight marriage, then what YOU have isn’t very strong, is it?
Perhaps it only has value to you if you make sure no one else can have it?

You selfish, soulless, empty shells.

“I’m a female with a boyfriend who doesn’t even believe in marriage, but if gays feel emotional about having that right, shouldn’t people applaud their love?”

That was lovely, Sasha. Well said.

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: sasha http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-137424 sasha Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:02:33 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-137424 I get that religious believers think being gay is a "sin" but the battle against letting two people love each other and pledge devotion to each other needs to end. I'm a female with a boyfriend who doesn't even believe in marriage, but if gays feel emotional about having that right, shouldn't people applaud their love? btw i think the reason Christians are being attacked lately is that people are finally starting to see how they secretly violate the constitution by insinuating themselves into government. they need to lay off and live their own lives, not get involved in lawmaking and telling people what to do, Sarah Palin-style. what part of separation of church and state don't they understand? the founding fathers came here to ESCAPE religious dogma, not promote it. I get that religious believers think being gay is a “sin” but the battle against letting two people love each other and pledge devotion to each other needs to end.

I’m a female with a boyfriend who doesn’t even believe in marriage, but if gays feel emotional about having that right, shouldn’t people applaud their love?

btw i think the reason Christians are being attacked lately is that people are finally starting to see how they secretly violate the constitution by insinuating themselves into government. they need to lay off and live their own lives, not get involved in lawmaking and telling people what to do, Sarah Palin-style.

what part of separation of church and state don’t they understand? the founding fathers came here to ESCAPE religious dogma, not promote it.

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: dovesgate http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-137327 dovesgate Sun, 09 Nov 2008 18:47:12 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-137327 Annie, I don't think you quite understood what Danielle was saying - she's saying let them have their civil unions but leave the marriage term out because it has to do with religion. I've seen Christians harassed for their faith. Not beaten up yet but as Christianity becomes more and more unpopular, I'm sure this country will head that way. Danielle already addressed the 52% of Americans are getting divorced. She already said that they are chosing divorce over working things out. You just attempted to turn an agreement with her into some sort of attack. You also agree government and religion should not mix. THATS WHAT SHE SAID. I think you just want to attack her because she's said she's a Christian and not only your eyes see red over the rest of what she has said but your logic failed as well. Annie, I don’t think you quite understood what Danielle was saying – she’s saying let them have their civil unions but leave the marriage term out because it has to do with religion.

I’ve seen Christians harassed for their faith. Not beaten up yet but as Christianity becomes more and more unpopular, I’m sure this country will head that way.

Danielle already addressed the 52% of Americans are getting divorced. She already said that they are chosing divorce over working things out. You just attempted to turn an agreement with her into some sort of attack.

You also agree government and religion should not mix. THATS WHAT SHE SAID. I think you just want to attack her because she’s said she’s a Christian and not only your eyes see red over the rest of what she has said but your logic failed as well.

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136891 Annie Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:35:19 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136891 Danielle: To be fair, the "crap" you're getting doesn't even come CLOSE to what those who are apart of an insular minority receive on a daily basis. So spare me your whining about "I'm sick of this this and that" Well you know, those who partake in a different lifestyle are sick of getting STALKED, MURDERED. Can you say that you've been beat up and harassed for being "Straight, Christian, Married."? Doubtful. And "dainty thing" Again, shouldn't you be saying that to...the 52% of Americans who are GETTING DIVORCES!? Over half our population has been divorced, and those statistics don't even take into account those who partake in MULTIPLE divorces. Then there are same-sex couples who've been committed to each other for over at least a decade and simply want the EQUALITY they deserve. Love is love the world around. We shouldn't dictate RELIGION into GOVERNMENT. You want the church to say no to same-sex couples? Fine. They already do, but they GOVERNMENT doesn't need to mandate a law. Religions do a fine enough job of brainwashing people without the government reinforcing that. Separation of church and state only when it's not your church right? Danielle: To be fair, the “crap” you’re getting doesn’t even come CLOSE to what those who are apart of an insular minority receive on a daily basis.

So spare me your whining about “I’m sick of this this and that”

Well you know, those who partake in a different lifestyle are sick of getting STALKED, MURDERED.

Can you say that you’ve been beat up and harassed for being “Straight, Christian, Married.”? Doubtful.

And “dainty thing” Again, shouldn’t you be saying that to…the 52% of Americans who are GETTING DIVORCES!? Over half our population has been divorced, and those statistics don’t even take into account those who partake in MULTIPLE divorces.

Then there are same-sex couples who’ve been committed to each other for over at least a decade and simply want the EQUALITY they deserve. Love is love the world around.

We shouldn’t dictate RELIGION into GOVERNMENT. You want the church to say no to same-sex couples? Fine. They already do, but they GOVERNMENT doesn’t need to mandate a law. Religions do a fine enough job of brainwashing people without the government reinforcing that.

Separation of church and state only when it’s not your church right?

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: brista http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136768 brista Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:05:18 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136768 <i>What exactly IS the difference between a marriage and a domestic partnership? Other than the religious mumbo jumbo about “holy” matrimony, etc…? :?:</i> <a href="http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/wedding/f/MarriageBenefit.htm" rel="nofollow">There is a difference.</a> What exactly IS the difference between a marriage and a domestic partnership? Other than the religious mumbo jumbo about “holy” matrimony, etc…? :?:

There is a difference.

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: Codzilla http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136739 Codzilla Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:43:02 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136739 Obvious said: "I know a couple people who voted Yes on Prop 8 because they thought it was FOR Gay Rights. This isn’t over-you and your tricky wording have started a war, and when it’s over, there won’t be a winner. Hope you’re happy." I'm also extremely disappointed that prop 8 passed, but to blame the "tricky wording" rather than the people who didn't bother to actually READ the proposition before voting is ridiculous. It's called personal responsibility, and if you just blindly checked a box without bothering to fully understand the specifics, it's your own damn fault. Obvious said: “I know a couple people who voted Yes on Prop 8 because they thought it was FOR Gay Rights. This isn’t over-you and your tricky wording have started a war, and when it’s over, there won’t be a winner. Hope you’re happy.”

I’m also extremely disappointed that prop 8 passed, but to blame the “tricky wording” rather than the people who didn’t bother to actually READ the proposition before voting is ridiculous. It’s called personal responsibility, and if you just blindly checked a box without bothering to fully understand the specifics, it’s your own damn fault.

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: Danielle http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136682 Danielle Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:38:07 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136682 While there's many claims of "ignorant" logic clouded by "religion", my logic is based on this: I'm tired of getting crap because I'm straight and married and I just happen to be a Christian. -I- feel like the minority in a country full of "Liberals" who target me based on my kindness and "Christian-like" attitude. I want people to stop judging me saying that I'm judging them when I don't give two cents what they are or do with their lives. And I want to stop being called a Republican as well. Not that there's anything at all wrong with Republicans, but I make up my own mind about things and I ended up voting for NOBODY. I've got my own life and soul to worry about. And I want to stop being mocked for not being like "My Jesus" or taking people's crap when they push too hard. I'm only glad it passed because while I think gays should be allowed civil partnerships, stay away from the church. Religion/God is obviously like holy water to the devil when it comes to people these days so why would you want something so bad that goes against everything you stand for? If you hate religion, you shouldn't want marriage as it's a promise between two people before GOD to remain faithful to each other. It's a belief that if you should ever break those vows, you stand before God on judgment day and answer for it. It's been that way for centuries. It's not just some dainty little thing you take for granted and then get a quickie divorce only months later. Marriage has almost lost its meaning anyway with most straight couples unwilling to work out their problems or not getting to know each other before they get married. And they think that a divorce is the easiest solution. Of course there's exceptions when it comes to abuse but I'm not going to bother being specific when people only want to nitpick me anyway. So whatever. People will throw enough fits and get it passed eventually. So my opinion really doesn't matter. Don't bother getting in a huff about it. Seriously. I can state it without getting overly emotional about it. I'm passionate but I think it's silly getting upset over the internet, don't you? :roll: While there’s many claims of “ignorant” logic clouded by “religion”, my logic is based on this: I’m tired of getting crap because I’m straight and married and I just happen to be a Christian. -I- feel like the minority in a country full of “Liberals” who target me based on my kindness and “Christian-like” attitude. I want people to stop judging me saying that I’m judging them when I don’t give two cents what they are or do with their lives. And I want to stop being called a Republican as well. Not that there’s anything at all wrong with Republicans, but I make up my own mind about things and I ended up voting for NOBODY.

I’ve got my own life and soul to worry about. And I want to stop being mocked for not being like “My Jesus” or taking people’s crap when they push too hard.

I’m only glad it passed because while I think gays should be allowed civil partnerships, stay away from the church. Religion/God is obviously like holy water to the devil when it comes to people these days so why would you want something so bad that goes against everything you stand for? If you hate religion, you shouldn’t want marriage as it’s a promise between two people before GOD to remain faithful to each other. It’s a belief that if you should ever break those vows, you stand before God on judgment day and answer for it. It’s been that way for centuries.

It’s not just some dainty little thing you take for granted and then get a quickie divorce only months later. Marriage has almost lost its meaning anyway with most straight couples unwilling to work out their problems or not getting to know each other before they get married. And they think that a divorce is the easiest solution. Of course there’s exceptions when it comes to abuse but I’m not going to bother being specific when people only want to nitpick me anyway.

So whatever. People will throw enough fits and get it passed eventually. So my opinion really doesn’t matter. Don’t bother getting in a huff about it. Seriously.

I can state it without getting overly emotional about it. I’m passionate but I think it’s silly getting upset over the internet, don’t you? :roll:

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: DLR http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136654 DLR Sat, 08 Nov 2008 10:33:21 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136654 to all the people that say prop 8 preserves the bible's definition of marriage, have they really read their bible? what about all those "wise men" that married dozens of women and had hundreds of children? what about men that had sex with other women just so they could get children because their wife was barren? oh don't give me that crap about marriage being sanctioned by the bible as only between one man and one woman. :roll: to all the people that say prop 8 preserves the bible’s definition of marriage, have they really read their bible? what about all those “wise men” that married dozens of women and had hundreds of children? what about men that had sex with other women just so they could get children because their wife was barren? oh don’t give me that crap about marriage being sanctioned by the bible as only between one man and one woman. :roll:

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]> By: Trillion http://www.celebitchy.com/20692/courtney_love_confused_by_prop_8_happy_it_passed/#comment-136623 Trillion Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:40:29 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=20692#comment-136623 Who exactly "wins" now that Prop 8 has passed? NOBODY. Lots of fine people who simply are in love and want to declare it publicly and officially have lost that right. It's un-American to have the majority deny rights to others because they are a minority. I attended the wedding of two men Saturday night. They'd been together 26 years. The many toasts to their love and marriage went on well over an hour. Not a dry eye in the house. You prop 8 pushers have done your countrymen a disservice and are a disgrace to the goodwill and charity of your supposed leader Jesus Christ. Dust off a New Testament and take a look inside would ya? Who exactly “wins” now that Prop 8 has passed? NOBODY. Lots of fine people who simply are in love and want to declare it publicly and officially have lost that right. It’s un-American to have the majority deny rights to others because they are a minority. I attended the wedding of two men Saturday night. They’d been together 26 years. The many toasts to their love and marriage went on well over an hour. Not a dry eye in the house. You prop 8 pushers have done your countrymen a disservice and are a disgrace to the goodwill and charity of your supposed leader Jesus Christ. Dust off a New Testament and take a look inside would ya?

Report this comment as spam or abuse

]]>