Last week, US Weekly ran a story that Demi Moore was “obsessing” over Ashton Kutcher, because she dared asked a friend for details about the new girlfriend Ashton escorted to an Oscars party. This was the same Oscars party that Demi co-hosted for the last two years and was conveniently absent from this year, having been away at rehab at the time. I was miffed at Ashton for seeming to plant this story of Demi as the desperate one, when he was the one looking like he was rubbing his new romance in and making sure that Demi heard about it. Some of you pointed out that Ashton and Demi have mutual friends, which explains why he went to that party, and that Ashton didn’t owe it to Demi to stay away. You also schooled me that it takes two to end a relationship.
Anyway there’s a similar story about Demi’s desperation in UK’s Grazia magazine, which is probably taking earlier reports and embellishing them. The details are convincing, though, and it’s not farfetched to believe this is true. Allegedly Demi Moore is still contacting Ashton, and she freaks out when he doesn’t get back to her text messages right away. Keep in mind that she was with this guy for the last nine years and they were married for six and a half years. She should definitely move on, but it’s not like she’s stalking some guy she went on a couple dates with. Here’s more, via The Daily Mail:
One friend told Grazia magazine: ‘Demi definitely isn’t over him yet. Her mood right now relies solely on Ashton and how responsive he is to her messages and phone calls.
‘If he doesn’t message her back for a couple of hours or seems distant in a text, she starts freaking out. While she won’t admit it, she is still completely infatuated with him and it’s clear she wants him back.’
Demi is also said to have been thrown off after Ashton visited her in rehab.
The friend added: ‘Demi is her own worst enemy, because she was doing great in rehab until Ashton came to visit her.
‘He didn’t actually make it down until a couple of weeks ago, after promising to go numerous times before that. As everyone expected, his visit really threw her off and she went from being relatively calm to very anxious and edgy.’
Meanwhile, it has also been claimed that Demi is ‘in denial’ over Ashton’s reported relationship with Lorene Scafaria, after the pair made their public debut heading to a game of laser tag in Los Angeles on March 3rd.
A source told heat magazine: ‘Demi doesn’t know much about Lorene, as she’s been shielded from the media while in rehab. Demi and Ashton have been texting regularly. She seems to be in denial about the fact he is thinking of settling down with another woman and is looking forward to seeing him.
‘Demi’s friends are worried she doesn’t seem to have acknowledged Ashton’s new relationship.’
Despite the fact that Ashton and Lorene looked very friendly as they stepped out in LA earlier this month, a representative for the Two And A Half Men star has maintained the pair are ‘just friends’.
[From The Daily Mail]
Well if this is true then Ashton isn’t doing Demi any favors by texting her back, visiting her in rehab, and giving her so much hope that they might get back together. Maybe that’s why he brought that new girlfriend to the party: he wanted Demi to know that he’d moved on. It sounds like he was too chickensh*t to tell her outright. I’m not blaming him for the state of their relationship, and now I definitely see the other side of it. Demi isn’t exactly a person who is able to stand on her own without a relationship, and she’s going to try and cling to Ashton until he puts his foot down.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
It just doesn’t seem like it was a healthy relationship in the first place. She married a younger man who really had a pretty immature personality to begin with. He should be allowed to move on.
That’s just sad. Where did she turn wrong? Poor gal.
Demi, girl get some dignity and move on. Sometimes a needy ex makes you feel guilty and you don’t want to hurt them anymore. So you end up inadvertently leading them on. It’s not like he hates her, he’s just over her as a lover. He’s wanted out for awhile now and didn’t know how to force the issue.
She could be one of those hysterical emotional black mailers that is hard to reason with. Plus he’s apparently avoidant which is a bad match for an overwrought emotionally needy person.
I think Ashton acted cowardly and horribly in
the last few years while married.
But it’s over and she needs to stop before she’s doing late night drive bys and phone stalking.
At this point, I do not think this woman knows dignity if it slapped her in her frozen face. I pity her but at the same time I want to just shake her into reality. When the dust has settled and she heals, the worst thing will be the tinge of embarrassment she will feel when she realizes how poor her handling of this has been. She needs to cowgirl up; she has three daughters to be an example for.
I don’t know what makes me more annoyed, that Demi’s immature and can’t get her shit together or that this situation is providing sympathy for Kutcher. Ugh on both counts though.
I agree, Ashton needs to stop sending mixed messages. If it’s over, it’s over. Don’t even give her an opportunity to over analyze text messages, or to base her day around Ashton’s response. She has an addictive personality, and she needs to find self worth outside of alcohol, drugs or a man. Life isn’t easy. Sometimes your lover cheats on you and your marriage fails. You have to find the strength to deal with the issues in a healthy way, and not hide behind substance abuse and co-dependant relationships.
No offense, but it kind of seems like Ashton can’t win. Before he was accused of being cold-hearted and cruel because the perception was that he cut her out completely, but now that this info has surfaced he’s “leading her on”. What’s he supposed to do?
I think that they both need to see a skilled and experienced counselor to help them both manage expectations post divorce in a healthy manner. I’ve seen it help friends of mine, but admittedly a lot of it was centered around co-parenting young children. Unfortunately it seems that the both of them are a little too caught up in that “cult”.
I can totally see her being a victim to “magical thinking” and I’m sure her cult feeds in to that, which is completely unhealthy, and frankly detrimental to her well-being.
I agree he needs to grow a pair and tell her outright that it is over.
This woman has serious issues to address. Demi needs to learn to value herself. If she utilized the energy she is spending stressing.g over lost love on becoming emotionally and mentally healthy she’d probably realize she’s ok without him.
Demi reminds me of the Natalie Wood character in “Spendor in the Grass” and maybe spending time locked down for a few months without contact from the outside world wouldn’t be such a bad thing. Man, every woman here has been cheated on and loved a schmuck who hurt her. It’s hard, your heart aches but it gets better. It won’t get better, however, until she walks away from him.
I can definitely relate with Demi at one point in my life I was so heartbroken and enamored with my first love that when we broke up it took such a gigantic toll on me; mentally and physically. The problem is that when you are that distraught, no amount of good advice is going to get through to you. You literally have to hit rock bottom and then pull away completely. I did some things I am not proud of because I was so in love and heartbroken to win the person back. I finally looked at myself in the mirror and saw what a gaunt empty shell I had become. Within a week I had packed my stuff and moved to another city and started all over again and broke all contact with my ex. This has been fifteen years and never looked back. A few years ago, he “friended” me on Facebook. I declined and there was not a single emotional feeling behind it just like when you delete SPAM. One day, she will be in a better place and look at the whole thing without that aching distraught feeling but perhaps with just a tinge of embarassment on how she handled herself. Time, space/distance and focusing on something else like a hobby and your self happiness is the only things that will help; not substance abuse or another person.
I am going through it right now. Divorce after 12 years and 2 children.
I walked that road a few years back. Stay strong, girl.
I remember feeling so terrified that I couldn’t make it alone, and what kind of effect it would have on my child, but five years later — life’s grand. It truly is.
You’ll get there — just don’t give up! 🙂
Jessica, I wish you the best and pray for a speedy emotional recovery. I am not paying lip service when I tell you that I guarantee you will look back in time and that hurt will no longer be there. I never thought at that moment in life things will get better but seriously when a door is closed a much better door will open. You are more heavily invested due to children and twelve years of partnership so it will be tough but you will make it and be better and stronger for it.
I don’t know if it’s cosistant with the red String crap, but real, genuine therapy with a psychiatrist could help. No excuses, no Kabala therapist BS.
I totally agree. She needs therapy. Real, licensed, therapy not Dr. Drew bullshit therapy—Gawd I hope Dr. Drew does not decide to recruit her for his stupid show and the worst if she accepts.
Agreed. She needs serious, professional help from medical providers who specialize in the issues she is struggling with. No offense to ‘spiritual advisers’, as they do have their place…
I wonder what caused her and Bruce Willis to break up? Did she have issues all along?
I just said it in my post below but I don’t think they were as friendly as everyone made them out to be. I think they were friendly for the kids’ sake and that now that they are all 18+ he doesn’t want to get involved anymore. I think he’s been classy and done whatever it takes to keep the peace with her.
didn’t he use to cheat on her, and she would run around town/bars looking for him. this pathetic behaviour is not new to her.
On CDAN it was revealed in a blind – where Enty actually reveals the people involved – that he cheated with Estella Warren.
He cant dance around her and be her “friend”.Its over…take a hike.
If she keeps up her insanity,BAKER ACT HER… SHE IS VERY VERY ILL.
For awhile, Demi’s desperation has lead me to believe Ashton wanted out of his marriage to Demi for quite sometime. I will even go so far as to personally believe that he was the one to plant those stories about his affair in an effort to force Demi in a position where she had to divorce him. I think Ashton has developed a passive agressive personality in dealing with her. Maybe direct confrontation with her is a scary thing? I don’t know. I think Demi’s a manipulative person and Ashton stayed in that relationship out of concern for her well-being. I think Ashton talks to her now for the same reasons. I would tell Ashton to cut her off completely.
I know this is speculation on my part but it really makes the pieces fit. I totally think Demi did whatever she could to keep Ashton. Also, now that his kids with are fully grown have you noticed that Bruce isn’t around as much. I think Bruce was trying to shield his kids from the darkside of Demi’s personality. I don’t think they were actually as friendly as they tried to pretend. But I also get the feeling Bruce is a classy guy and won’t spill the secrets of what went down during the marriage and will even take the blame for its demise. I get the feeling Demi is just all around crazy and always has been. She was just able to package herself up nicely. I think the past few months we’ve been seeing Demi’s true colors and just how manipulative she is. I would even go so far as to say that her “od” was just another example of that.
I disagree with CB’s assessment of this marriage. I think it became something toxic for Ashton and while at first I did side with Demi, the more info that has come out about it leads me to believe Ashton is not 100% guilty. He is only guilty in not handling this better and more directly.
Demi and Halle Berry should date because these two can compete for the cray cray.
Oooh… I love your analysis!!! Damn spot on!
Very interesting analysis… and probably very very close to the truth.
Good job.
It’s never black and white. Demi’s desperation as an ageing, insecure actress was always going to be the killer of that marriage. But Ashton is not a great guy. They’re both so up themselves there is no winner here. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence he’s dating a woman who looks very girl-next-door and wholesome. This is all about damage control for his image. Paintball dates, or laser tag as it’s reported in the DM – please! And it’s working. There’s a reason he’s not being seen out with a bombshell. The juxtaposition of that with Demi’s gaunt face would not serve him well.
I get the impression that Ashton was kind of pressured into visiting Demi, so I don’t think he meant to give her false hope or ‘throw her off’ in rehab. I’m sure he cares about her, and doesn’t want to hurt her, yet doesn’t want to send her mixed signals. So, what’s he supposed to do? I think it is clear he doesn’t want to be with her… and stayed with her for longer than he should have (which happens a lot when someone is in a relationship with an addict). A lot of people think Ashton was an immature jerk, but I’m starting to think he was actually the mature one in this relationship. He was a young guy who probably grew up jerking off to Demi Moore magazine photos… and then he actually has the chance to hook up with her? Hell yes he’s going to hook up with her! I didn’t expect them to last… at all. I actually think for a while, he did ‘settle down’ and try to make it work. Demi’s reasoning for hooking up with Ashton seems like it may have been the bigger problem. She’s messed up, obsessed with ‘staying young and hot’ and Ashton was her ticket to doing that. Very messed up. I can imagine it didn’t take long for the insecurities to cause problems. Needy, clingy, controlling, jealous… whatever, I’m sure it wasn’t pretty. Add her drug problems to the mix, and what a disaster! I give Ashton credit for keeping his mouth shut. That speaks volumes to me… his side of the story would surely be very damaging and painful for Demi.
He is obviously the one who is ready to move on, and she is not. Until she accepts that it is over, she can’t even start to get over it. With her issues and self-destructive behaviors, I think she is in for a rough road… and she is likely to try to make it just as rough for Ashton, if he lets her.
Counseling Demi, now!! We’ve all been there… obsessing over some schmuck who has clearly moved on. He ain’t gonna change his mind girl, so you need to change yours…
Yes! I don’t think we need to overanalyze things.
We all have been there; hanging onto someone who has broken our hearts and clearly moved on, whatever the reason.
Break ups are not easy, no need to be judgemental.
I hate that guy. Just hate him.
I hate girls like that. If she is acting like that. If she’s not I’ll stick to disliking my girlfriends who act like that! I know girls who do not understand hints or declarations. He’s just not that into you. Move on!
She is addicted to him and she needs a 12 step program.
Bullshit. The only person Demi will e v e r be infatuated with is herself, and its well known she’d rather sleep with beautiful women than Ashton. Her PR people are despicable and will do anything to keep her sorry ass in the public eye.
This sounds like adderall… it’s a common side effect to get obsessive over things and people that you wouldn’t normally.
It can really amplify your emotions to false proportions. Just sayin.
She married someone way too young and should be ashamed . It should have been obvious that it was a bad match and her childish twitter antics were good indicators of that .. People need to stop telling celebs how hot they are because it drives them bat shit when they aren’t so hot anymore
Demi is so beautiful, I’ll take her.
I think sometimes people forget that Ashton has been co-parenting Demi’s kids for almost a decade. The youngest was only about 9 when he started dating Demi.
I’m sure he has a lot of love for those girls and does not want to just walk away out of any of their lives.
If this is at all true someone must slap her. Sure, he’s technically good looking, I suppose, but he was in a bad remake of Mr and Mrs Smith with that Heigl chick. Career over.
Demi was in a movie with Michael freakin’ Caine.
Enuff said.
He should text her and tell her he won’t be answering anymore of her phonecalls or messages so she can move on with her life.