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		<title>By: Ammonius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ammonius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UHHHHHH.....yeah.  Elton, you are the man.  Finally a homosexual on a macro level that makes sense.  Sorry, y&#039;all, but the culture in our country matters.  Culturally and historically, the word marriage is one (1) man and (1) woman.  Go for civil unions that have the SAME RIGHTS.  Elton is right about the word &quot;marriage.&quot;  Stealing that from society would be like taking the word &quot;gay&quot; (happy) and usurping it to mean a sexual preference. OH WAIT...that already happened.  Stop trying to CHANGE our cultural heritage and decide to ADD your two cents to it instead of abolishing it and targeting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UHHHHHH&#8230;..yeah.  Elton, you are the man.  Finally a homosexual on a macro level that makes sense.  Sorry, y&#8217;all, but the culture in our country matters.  Culturally and historically, the word marriage is one (1) man and (1) woman.  Go for civil unions that have the SAME RIGHTS.  Elton is right about the word &#8220;marriage.&#8221;  Stealing that from society would be like taking the word &#8220;gay&#8221; (happy) and usurping it to mean a sexual preference. OH WAIT&#8230;that already happened.  Stop trying to CHANGE our cultural heritage and decide to ADD your two cents to it instead of abolishing it and targeting it.
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		<title>By: shelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>shelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for clarity on some of this, don&#039;t you think the fact that England does NOT support gay marriage might be the reason Elton John is over here trying to shame Americans into giving him what his own country won&#039;t.I take exception to him using his celebrity status to try to bully us over something that he, as a non-citizen, has no say in.  Elton John is not a U.S. citizen and has no business in our business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for clarity on some of this, don&#8217;t you think the fact that England does NOT support gay marriage might be the reason Elton John is over here trying to shame Americans into giving him what his own country won&#8217;t.I take exception to him using his celebrity status to try to bully us over something that he, as a non-citizen, has no say in.  Elton John is not a U.S. citizen and has no business in our business.
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		<title>By: Katharina</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find Elton&#039;s remarks cynical:

he hires a surrogate motehr in california to have a child. surrogacy is not allowed in england.

and then he whines about something, that was written in the US constitution a long time ago but some people denied a specific group - same sex couples. if he does not understand what the opposition to prop 8 is about, he should hire surrogate mothers in a legal system that he DOES understand, india for instance, a former colony of his long-gone british empire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find Elton&#8217;s remarks cynical:</p>
<p>he hires a surrogate motehr in california to have a child. surrogacy is not allowed in england.</p>
<p>and then he whines about something, that was written in the US constitution a long time ago but some people denied a specific group &#8211; same sex couples. if he does not understand what the opposition to prop 8 is about, he should hire surrogate mothers in a legal system that he DOES understand, india for instance, a former colony of his long-gone british empire.
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A marriage is meant to produce a husband and wife.  Therefore a gay &quot;marriage&quot; makes no sense.  Elton is right - a civil union should suffice.  Why do minorities always get their knickers in a twist if they can&#039;t have something that other people have? Sometimes people protest for things that they don&#039;t really need or want.  They just want to protest and moan because they have a large chip on their shoulder.  

As for gays wanting to be in the church - have they read the bible?  Or are they oblivious to the passages about sodomites and men lying with men?  I&#039;m nor hugely religious, but again this smacks of minorities wanting to force their way into something simply because they don&#039;t like the idea of being excluded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A marriage is meant to produce a husband and wife.  Therefore a gay &#8220;marriage&#8221; makes no sense.  Elton is right &#8211; a civil union should suffice.  Why do minorities always get their knickers in a twist if they can&#8217;t have something that other people have? Sometimes people protest for things that they don&#8217;t really need or want.  They just want to protest and moan because they have a large chip on their shoulder.  </p>
<p>As for gays wanting to be in the church &#8211; have they read the bible?  Or are they oblivious to the passages about sodomites and men lying with men?  I&#8217;m nor hugely religious, but again this smacks of minorities wanting to force their way into something simply because they don&#8217;t like the idea of being excluded.
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 10:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all of you who agree with Elton:  Let&#039;s go back a few years...  It&#039;s 1966... It&#039;s illegal for non-whites and whites to get married in many states.  Martin Luther King has made his famous statement that he wants to be &quot;the white man&#039;s brother, not his brother-in-law&quot;.  Now argue that it&#039;s perfectly acceptable to have a separate institution for mixed-race couples which doesn&#039;t impinge on the &quot;racial purity&quot; of existing marriage laws.  Also, argue why Loving v. Virginia should be ruled in favor of Virginia.  If you can&#039;t or won&#039;t then you are just today&#039;s equivalent of the bigots of yesteryear whatever your sexual orientation.  Prop 8, civil unions, anything except full marriage equality is just another violation of the rights of gays and lesbians under the 14th Amendment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you who agree with Elton:  Let&#8217;s go back a few years&#8230;  It&#8217;s 1966&#8230; It&#8217;s illegal for non-whites and whites to get married in many states.  Martin Luther King has made his famous statement that he wants to be &#8220;the white man&#8217;s brother, not his brother-in-law&#8221;.  Now argue that it&#8217;s perfectly acceptable to have a separate institution for mixed-race couples which doesn&#8217;t impinge on the &#8220;racial purity&#8221; of existing marriage laws.  Also, argue why Loving v. Virginia should be ruled in favor of Virginia.  If you can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t then you are just today&#8217;s equivalent of the bigots of yesteryear whatever your sexual orientation.  Prop 8, civil unions, anything except full marriage equality is just another violation of the rights of gays and lesbians under the 14th Amendment.
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephen Gateley (Boyzone)&amp; Matt Lucas (google Little Britain) both of these &quot;celebrities&quot; whom had civil partnerships have both died in this same week. I believe there is a message from Jesus about this, think about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Gateley (Boyzone)&amp; Matt Lucas (google Little Britain) both of these &#8220;celebrities&#8221; whom had civil partnerships have both died in this same week. I believe there is a message from Jesus about this, think about that.
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		<title>By: what</title>
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		<dc:creator>what</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dogs aren&#039;t people and dogs can&#039;t possibly consent to having sexual relations with a person. if someone is having sex with a dog, it&#039;s hurting the dog.
as long as someone is having sexual relations with someone who is consenting and isn&#039;t being hurt, then i don&#039;t care and still don&#039;t see why i should.
no matter how disgusting a sexual act may be in my eyes, i will fight to keep it legal because that means that later on, my right to choose to do whatever i want in bed won&#039;t be taken away from me.

you are saying that once something is legal then people will think it&#039;s ok. but as i said, lots of stuff that i think is wrong IS legal, like cheating on your spouse. we don&#039;t put people in jail for that.
but i&#039;m not about to launch a crusade for such a law.
just because it&#039;s legal to lie to and cheat on your spouse, do you do it?
no, because you have your own moral compass to decide what it is right and wrong.
so what&#039;s the problem with letting other people decide for themselves? god will judge them - you don&#039;t have to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dogs aren&#8217;t people and dogs can&#8217;t possibly consent to having sexual relations with a person. if someone is having sex with a dog, it&#8217;s hurting the dog.<br />
as long as someone is having sexual relations with someone who is consenting and isn&#8217;t being hurt, then i don&#8217;t care and still don&#8217;t see why i should.<br />
no matter how disgusting a sexual act may be in my eyes, i will fight to keep it legal because that means that later on, my right to choose to do whatever i want in bed won&#8217;t be taken away from me.</p>
<p>you are saying that once something is legal then people will think it&#8217;s ok. but as i said, lots of stuff that i think is wrong IS legal, like cheating on your spouse. we don&#8217;t put people in jail for that.<br />
but i&#8217;m not about to launch a crusade for such a law.<br />
just because it&#8217;s legal to lie to and cheat on your spouse, do you do it?<br />
no, because you have your own moral compass to decide what it is right and wrong.<br />
so what&#8217;s the problem with letting other people decide for themselves? god will judge them &#8211; you don&#8217;t have to.
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to say it. . .but you kind of proved my point in your response. You are now O.K. with polygamy, which was my point. Everything will soon be a &quot;free to do as you please. . . whatever goes. . .whatever makes you happy&quot; society. You also say that if you think something is wrong you just won&#039;t do it. . .that&#039;s good, but the problem with that is that so many people think that if it&#039;s legal, then it&#039;s ok, AND that&#039;s why we have laws. You start to become desensitized to it, which is a very scary place to be. BTW, incest is illegal, so is polygamy. Also, though I was never the person that said that gay marriage could lead to marrying a dog like you originally thought. . .based on your statements, that would be o.k. in your eyes too.  For instance, your words, though said about polygamy, can be applied to the same scenario as being married to a dog. . .you might think it&#039;s wrong, but if other people don&#039;t, &quot;why should [you]care? honestly, why? how is their marriage affecting [you]in any way?&quot;. You said that &quot;we live in a free country where the decision of right and wrong is left up to the individual&quot; which is true. But sometimes, no I&#039;m sorry all the time, you have to stick up for what you believe is right, that IS how laws are made, that&#039;s democracy, that&#039;s why we vote, it&#039;s based on peoples opinions, majority rules (EX: 52% in CA) That is what opponents of gay marriage are fighting for. If we don&#039;t stick up for what we think is right, and you don&#039;t stick up for what you think is right then who will? 

Further I do believe in the Bible. . .oh no, I said it. . .now you&#039;re gonna call me a crazy christian and disregard what I say. . .but hopefully not. But my argument wasn&#039;t based on that, it was based on exactly what I said. My point about the bible was that, even if it&#039;s done in the bible, that doesn&#039;t make it okay or right, the bible (and you should read it, and I don&#039;t mean that as a derogatory remark in any way)consists of stories and tesimonies from an imperfect people. Jesus came to save. . .if we&#039;re perfect, theres no need for a savior. So if the characters did it in the bible. . .who cares? They are not perfect. . .their lives are a testimony to God&#039;s grace. Christians are not perfect. We are all gonna have to answer for our actions. Me. . you,. . everybody. I know. . .you probably don&#039;t believe that. . .but anyways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say it. . .but you kind of proved my point in your response. You are now O.K. with polygamy, which was my point. Everything will soon be a &#8220;free to do as you please. . . whatever goes. . .whatever makes you happy&#8221; society. You also say that if you think something is wrong you just won&#8217;t do it. . .that&#8217;s good, but the problem with that is that so many people think that if it&#8217;s legal, then it&#8217;s ok, AND that&#8217;s why we have laws. You start to become desensitized to it, which is a very scary place to be. BTW, incest is illegal, so is polygamy. Also, though I was never the person that said that gay marriage could lead to marrying a dog like you originally thought. . .based on your statements, that would be o.k. in your eyes too.  For instance, your words, though said about polygamy, can be applied to the same scenario as being married to a dog. . .you might think it&#8217;s wrong, but if other people don&#8217;t, &#8220;why should [you]care? honestly, why? how is their marriage affecting [you]in any way?&#8221;. You said that &#8220;we live in a free country where the decision of right and wrong is left up to the individual&#8221; which is true. But sometimes, no I&#8217;m sorry all the time, you have to stick up for what you believe is right, that IS how laws are made, that&#8217;s democracy, that&#8217;s why we vote, it&#8217;s based on peoples opinions, majority rules (EX: 52% in CA) That is what opponents of gay marriage are fighting for. If we don&#8217;t stick up for what we think is right, and you don&#8217;t stick up for what you think is right then who will? </p>
<p>Further I do believe in the Bible. . .oh no, I said it. . .now you&#8217;re gonna call me a crazy christian and disregard what I say. . .but hopefully not. But my argument wasn&#8217;t based on that, it was based on exactly what I said. My point about the bible was that, even if it&#8217;s done in the bible, that doesn&#8217;t make it okay or right, the bible (and you should read it, and I don&#8217;t mean that as a derogatory remark in any way)consists of stories and tesimonies from an imperfect people. Jesus came to save. . .if we&#8217;re perfect, theres no need for a savior. So if the characters did it in the bible. . .who cares? They are not perfect. . .their lives are a testimony to God&#8217;s grace. Christians are not perfect. We are all gonna have to answer for our actions. Me. . you,. . everybody. I know. . .you probably don&#8217;t believe that. . .but anyways.
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		<title>By: what</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beth: i&#039;m sorry. i just assumed that you believed in the bible, so i tried to base my argument around that.

incest: ok fine i think it&#039;s gross, wrong, etc. but why would i outlaw it? how could such a law even be enforced? laws shouldn&#039;t be about what grosses me out or what i personally think is wrong. laws should be about preventing people from harming other people.
if i think something is wrong, i just won&#039;t do it.
other people are free to have different opinions on what is wrong/right and act as they see fit. it&#039;s called freedom.

polygamy: again, i personally wouldn&#039;t want to be married to multiple people. but if someone else does, why should i care? honestly, why? how is their marriage affecting me in any way?

my point is, people do things on a daily basis that i think are wrong: hurt each other, cheat on each other, lie to each other. but i cannot outlaw these behaviors because they offend me.
right is right and wrong is wrong, and we live in a free country where the decision of right and wrong is left up to the individual.

p.s. i&#039;m trying to see this from your POV and talk about it as such. myself, i don&#039;t see anything wrong or offensive about gay behavior, relationships, marriage. two people are in love. that&#039;s seems to me like a pretty good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beth: i&#8217;m sorry. i just assumed that you believed in the bible, so i tried to base my argument around that.</p>
<p>incest: ok fine i think it&#8217;s gross, wrong, etc. but why would i outlaw it? how could such a law even be enforced? laws shouldn&#8217;t be about what grosses me out or what i personally think is wrong. laws should be about preventing people from harming other people.<br />
if i think something is wrong, i just won&#8217;t do it.<br />
other people are free to have different opinions on what is wrong/right and act as they see fit. it&#8217;s called freedom.</p>
<p>polygamy: again, i personally wouldn&#8217;t want to be married to multiple people. but if someone else does, why should i care? honestly, why? how is their marriage affecting me in any way?</p>
<p>my point is, people do things on a daily basis that i think are wrong: hurt each other, cheat on each other, lie to each other. but i cannot outlaw these behaviors because they offend me.<br />
right is right and wrong is wrong, and we live in a free country where the decision of right and wrong is left up to the individual.</p>
<p>p.s. i&#8217;m trying to see this from your POV and talk about it as such. myself, i don&#8217;t see anything wrong or offensive about gay behavior, relationships, marriage. two people are in love. that&#8217;s seems to me like a pretty good thing.
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