Comments on: Joely Fisher encourages adopting kids within the U.S. http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:53:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: lor http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140903 lor Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:48:13 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140903 Kudos to Joely Fischer for drawing attention the issue of domestic adoption. Foreign adoptions have serious consequences to their society. Families and cultures should not lose their children to westerners simply because they are poor! David Banda (Madonna adoptee) is a perfect example, his father is still alive and would like to have raised him yet did not have the money. How can you walk away with someone's child or grandchild simply because they do not have the money, power and privilege of those adopting their kids. Help build infrastructure such as schools and clinics. Adopt stateside where young American children need families. Kudos to Joely Fischer for drawing attention the issue of domestic adoption. Foreign adoptions have serious consequences to their society. Families and cultures should not lose their children to westerners simply because they are poor! David Banda (Madonna adoptee) is a perfect example, his father is still alive and would like to have raised him yet did not have the money. How can you walk away with someone’s child or grandchild simply because they do not have the money, power and privilege of those adopting their kids. Help build infrastructure such as schools and clinics. Adopt stateside where young American children need families.

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]]> By: IMO http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140601 IMO Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:31:17 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140601 Instead of adopting children from other countries you can donate money and help their communities in other ways, so they can raise their own children. And instead of taking one child and leaving millions behind you- how about using the money to help the orphanages and make the lives of many children there so much better. International adoption has become an industry and is some places that means exploitation and horrible things- because wealthy Americans pay for these adoptions and by doing so - they make it impossible for a couple who can't have children but is not rich- from adoption. Instead of adopting children from other countries you can donate money and help their communities in other ways, so they can raise their own children.

And instead of taking one child and leaving millions behind you- how about using the money to help the orphanages and make the lives of many children there so much better.

International adoption has become an industry and is some places that means exploitation and horrible things- because wealthy Americans pay for these adoptions and by doing so – they make it impossible for a couple who can’t have children but is not rich- from adoption.

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]]> By: Shay http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140481 Shay Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:12:03 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140481 Although I believe every child no matter where they live should have a stable home I have to agree with Fisher. 3 of my sisters are foster parents. 1 has adopted one of her foster kids and another is in the process. They have biological children of their own. It saddens me to see children go into the system and don't get adopted. It seems strange to me that you would rather ignore the child next door and go 1000s of miles away to get one. I hear a lot about how hard it is to adopt but it's really not that hard. And some of those who complain aren't fit to adopt here and shouldn't adopt from anywhere. Although I believe every child no matter where they live should have a stable home I have to agree with Fisher. 3 of my sisters are foster parents. 1 has adopted one of her foster kids and another is in the process. They have biological children of their own.

It saddens me to see children go into the system and don’t get adopted. It seems strange to me that you would rather ignore the child next door and go 1000s of miles away to get one. I hear a lot about how hard it is to adopt but it’s really not that hard. And some of those who complain aren’t fit to adopt here and shouldn’t adopt from anywhere.

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]]> By: Kristin http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140405 Kristin Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:54:04 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140405 She and her husband do a wonderful thing by adopting a child and yet people STILL can't help bringing AJ and BP into the conversation. She and her husband do a wonderful thing by adopting a child and yet people STILL can’t help bringing AJ and BP into the conversation.

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]]> By: Aspen http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140396 Aspen Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:42:51 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140396 Yes, I think it does, Doodahs, but not in the way you mean. I agree with you totally that no matter where you adopt from, you are giving that child a better life, and I would never bash domestic adoptions vs. foreign adoptions or vice versa. HOWEVER... When a huge part of the reason people look outside their own country to show that compassion is because if they chose to adopt one of their countrymen's children they are sentenced to keeping contact with the teen mother or crackhead mother or whoever it was who gave birth...putting up with her input while the state calls it co-parenting or somesuch nonsense...dealing with the damage and confusion that causes the child...facing the constant fear that if said egg donor gets her act together at some later date and "wants her baby back," the courts will likely grant her that... well...given all that, I think that it does matter where people get their adopted children from. Questions should be asked. It should be looked into. It should be repaired. Yes, I think it does, Doodahs, but not in the way you mean. I agree with you totally that no matter where you adopt from, you are giving that child a better life, and I would never bash domestic adoptions vs. foreign adoptions or vice versa.

HOWEVER…

When a huge part of the reason people look outside their own country to show that compassion is because if they chose to adopt one of their countrymen’s children they are sentenced to keeping contact with the teen mother or crackhead mother or whoever it was who gave birth…putting up with her input while the state calls it co-parenting or somesuch nonsense…dealing with the damage and confusion that causes the child…facing the constant fear that if said egg donor gets her act together at some later date and “wants her baby back,” the courts will likely grant her that…

well…given all that, I think that it does matter where people get their adopted children from. Questions should be asked. It should be looked into. It should be repaired.

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]]> By: cara http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140350 cara Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:40:20 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140350 I don't know...I'm really with Fisher on this one. I know, I've read the quote from Mary Louise Parker, but if you live here, on this soil and plan to raise a family here, I feel you need to think of America first. Unloved kids can turn into adults with lost souls, and THAT has a great effect on us. So, major kudos to her. P.S I knew this waspy woman once, and she was talking about how bad the aborigani's (sp?- don't have time to check) had it in Australia and I said, sort of like the blacks here have/do....and you should of saw the look of disgust she sent me. It was in this same conversation where she went on to describe how poor the countries in Africa were, how the children had nothing but fantastic teeth, so I asked her, what she was going to do to help, as she was traveling in these countries as a gift to herself for selling her company for around ten million dollars. Again, a look of disgust as she wouldn't dare think of such a thing. She went on to tell me how where she lived in Ct, had the highest income per capita..and I said, funny as when I was overseas in school, Bridgeport, Ct was one of our choices for a child on the Save The Children list. I guess what I am trying to say, sometimes it's just not chic to help the poor near our communities and more often then not, people sympathize with things that seem more exotic. So, great for Ms. Fisher. I don’t know…I’m really with Fisher on this one. I know, I’ve read the quote from Mary Louise Parker, but if you live here, on this soil and plan to raise a family here, I feel you need to think of America first. Unloved kids can turn into adults with lost souls, and THAT has a great effect on us. So, major kudos to her.

P.S I knew this waspy woman once, and she was talking about how bad the aborigani’s (sp?- don’t have time to check) had it in Australia and I said, sort of like the blacks here have/do….and you should of saw the look of disgust she sent me. It was in this same conversation where she went on to describe how poor the countries in Africa were, how the children had nothing but fantastic teeth, so I asked her, what she was going to do to help, as she was traveling in these countries as a gift to herself for selling her company for around ten million dollars. Again, a look of disgust as she wouldn’t dare think of such a thing. She went on to tell me how where she lived in Ct, had the highest income per capita..and I said, funny as when I was overseas in school, Bridgeport, Ct was one of our choices for a child on the Save The Children list. I guess what I am trying to say, sometimes it’s just not chic to help the poor near our communities and more often then not, people sympathize with things that seem more exotic.

So, great for Ms. Fisher.

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]]> By: doodahs http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140321 doodahs Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:48:15 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140321 Does it really matter why or where people adopt from? Just the act of giving a child a home is amazing enough and it's 100% a personal choice. Does it really matter why or where people adopt from? Just the act of giving a child a home is amazing enough and it’s 100% a personal choice.

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]]> By: Aspen http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140306 Aspen Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:27:53 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140306 Most people that adopt from outside the U.S. do so because they don't have to fear the birth mother coming back when the child is 8 and being given rights from the court system to take the child away again. I know more than a couple families who have adopted from China...and they all did that rather than adopt babies in America because they wanted to have a family without fear of the birth mother. Only in America would we give legal rights to DNA over giving legal rights to the home that nurtures a child. Most people that adopt from outside the U.S. do so because they don’t have to fear the birth mother coming back when the child is 8 and being given rights from the court system to take the child away again.

I know more than a couple families who have adopted from China…and they all did that rather than adopt babies in America because they wanted to have a family without fear of the birth mother.

Only in America would we give legal rights to DNA over giving legal rights to the home that nurtures a child.

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]]> By: DLR http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140266 DLR Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:45:12 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140266 I always wondered why so many people go out of country to adopt when clearly there are thousands and thousands and thousands of children that are available for adoption in one's country. I remember the huge flurry of adoptions of baby girls from China. Now China is experiencing a real bad decline in the female population and they're starting to stop adoptions of baby girls from there. Anyway, getting off track, why do so many people, especially celebrities, adopt from outside the USA? Could it be the paperwork involved for adoption is "lax" in other countries or the waiting lists much shorter? It can't be the cost because I understand foreign adoption can be like $50,000 or more. Whatever the reasons, it is clear domestic adoption procedures need to change for the better so people are encouraged to adopt from their own country instead of other countries. I always wondered why so many people go out of country to adopt when clearly there are thousands and thousands and thousands of children that are available for adoption in one’s country. I remember the huge flurry of adoptions of baby girls from China. Now China is experiencing a real bad decline in the female population and they’re starting to stop adoptions of baby girls from there. Anyway, getting off track, why do so many people, especially celebrities, adopt from outside the USA? Could it be the paperwork involved for adoption is “lax” in other countries or the waiting lists much shorter? It can’t be the cost because I understand foreign adoption can be like $50,000 or more. Whatever the reasons, it is clear domestic adoption procedures need to change for the better so people are encouraged to adopt from their own country instead of other countries.

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]]> By: McKenna http://www.celebitchy.com/21839/joely_fisher_encourages_adopting_kids_within_the_us/#comment-140234 McKenna Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:07:16 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=21839#comment-140234 Geez, some people have a problem no matter what a celebrity says. She's not criticizing anyone for adopting children from other countries (in fact she says she thought about doing it also). She is just pointing out the need right here in California. And for all those Prop 8 supporters, you're totally right...it's sooo much better for these 70,000 poor children to remain in orphanages than to be adopted by a married gay couple cuz then they'll learn to be gay too. Geez, some people have a problem no matter what a celebrity says. She’s not criticizing anyone for adopting children from other countries (in fact she says she thought about doing it also). She is just pointing out the need right here in California.

And for all those Prop 8 supporters, you’re totally right…it’s sooo much better for these 70,000 poor children to remain in orphanages than to be adopted by a married gay couple cuz then they’ll learn to be gay too.

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