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		<title>By: babygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>babygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i, get spanked by my mom.
BIG DEAL

if she knew half the stuff i do.


im not a slut or anything but what 
else do you expect from a 15 year old?.

i look up to beyonce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i, get spanked by my mom.<br />
BIG DEAL</p>
<p>if she knew half the stuff i do.</p>
<p>im not a slut or anything but what<br />
else do you expect from a 15 year old?.</p>
<p>i look up to beyonce.
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		<title>By: michka</title>
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		<dc:creator>michka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>turned out normal??!!?
since when was being a complete egomaniac normal? :?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>turned out normal??!!?<br />
since when was being a complete egomaniac normal? <img src='http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif' alt=':?' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: sissou</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you SadbutTrue !

Why hurt my own beloved kids physically or psychologically ? They just need an unambiguous signal that what they&#039;ve done is bad.

Spanking in form of light slaps on the butt works fairly well, it doesn&#039;t need to hurt, just to be infrequent.

As for timeouts, no time is fixed, they go to an adjoining dark room and come back when they&#039;ve decided to behave. And go back if they don&#039;t. Never lasts a hour !

As for explaining *everything* in terms a child can understand, that was my idea before I had kids, but it&#039;s just another tool in the toolbox because of its limits. 

Many adults do lack the maturity to choose the right path even when really well explained, and so do kids. I wouldn&#039;t bet on young kids complying just because of a really nice explanation (without psychological violence such as &quot;do it or the Boogeyman will come and get you/Mommy will be so sad/Mommy won&#039;t love you anymore&quot;).

Another limit : even mature non-abusive parents are unable to explain well when they&#039;re tired. Parenting is exhausting - and just when you&#039;re so tired, kids misbehave the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you SadbutTrue !</p>
<p>Why hurt my own beloved kids physically or psychologically ? They just need an unambiguous signal that what they&#8217;ve done is bad.</p>
<p>Spanking in form of light slaps on the butt works fairly well, it doesn&#8217;t need to hurt, just to be infrequent.</p>
<p>As for timeouts, no time is fixed, they go to an adjoining dark room and come back when they&#8217;ve decided to behave. And go back if they don&#8217;t. Never lasts a hour !</p>
<p>As for explaining *everything* in terms a child can understand, that was my idea before I had kids, but it&#8217;s just another tool in the toolbox because of its limits. </p>
<p>Many adults do lack the maturity to choose the right path even when really well explained, and so do kids. I wouldn&#8217;t bet on young kids complying just because of a really nice explanation (without psychological violence such as &#8220;do it or the Boogeyman will come and get you/Mommy will be so sad/Mommy won&#8217;t love you anymore&#8221;).</p>
<p>Another limit : even mature non-abusive parents are unable to explain well when they&#8217;re tired. Parenting is exhausting &#8211; and just when you&#8217;re so tired, kids misbehave the most.
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		<title>By: Trashaddict</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How we got on the tangent of corporal punishment I don&#039;t know.  But I really love what Beyonce said in regards to really thinking about and being prepared before having a child.  Would that more of the population thought that way.  She deserves a lot of credit for those words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How we got on the tangent of corporal punishment I don&#8217;t know.  But I really love what Beyonce said in regards to really thinking about and being prepared before having a child.  Would that more of the population thought that way.  She deserves a lot of credit for those words.
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		<title>By: lanette</title>
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		<dc:creator>lanette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my mother used to hit me but the truth is i had it coming....

if she knew half of the stuff I did..

she wasn&#039;t abusive, i had to show respect for her and myself...and at times i didn&#039;t so she would clock me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my mother used to hit me but the truth is i had it coming&#8230;.</p>
<p>if she knew half of the stuff I did..</p>
<p>she wasn&#8217;t abusive, i had to show respect for her and myself&#8230;and at times i didn&#8217;t so she would clock me.
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		<title>By: SadButTrue</title>
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		<dc:creator>SadButTrue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a childhood abuse survivor. I was beaten with a belt every day &quot;whether she needs it or not&quot; as my father put it. And while I am opposed to abuse of any kind, I&#039;m still not anti-spanking. Don&#039;t get me wrong, if you&#039;re spanking your child for any and every transgression it&#039;s obviously not working... You&#039;re still spanking. But a swat on the bottom when the circumstances warrant it isn&#039;t a bad thing. I can count on 1 hand how many times I&#039;ve spanked my now 11 year old daughter. There are so many other ways to discipline without resorting to physically hitting them. And lots of organizations that will give you free advice on how to better discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a childhood abuse survivor. I was beaten with a belt every day &#8220;whether she needs it or not&#8221; as my father put it. And while I am opposed to abuse of any kind, I&#8217;m still not anti-spanking. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, if you&#8217;re spanking your child for any and every transgression it&#8217;s obviously not working&#8230; You&#8217;re still spanking. But a swat on the bottom when the circumstances warrant it isn&#8217;t a bad thing. I can count on 1 hand how many times I&#8217;ve spanked my now 11 year old daughter. There are so many other ways to discipline without resorting to physically hitting them. And lots of organizations that will give you free advice on how to better discipline.
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		<title>By: Jag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elle, I&#039;m really glad that the fork didn&#039;t stick into your soft palate and that you didn&#039;t have to go to the ER to have it removed.  What your mom did was dangerous.

I was physically and emotionally abused by my father and mother, so have a VERY different view than what y&#039;all have said.  Suffice it to say that if I have children, they will have timeouts and will - to the best of my ability - never be the victims of forceful pain inflicted by an adult because the adult lacks the maturity to explain in terms the child can understand - or because it&#039;s easier for them, take your pick.  Timeouts, given correctly, give time for the child to calm down;  they&#039;re not meant to be used to make the child feel unloved...

As for Beyonce, I&#039;m glad she&#039;s waiting and will have children when she&#039;s ready.  It sounds like she wants children for a good reason, and not just to further her career.  Good on her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elle, I&#8217;m really glad that the fork didn&#8217;t stick into your soft palate and that you didn&#8217;t have to go to the ER to have it removed.  What your mom did was dangerous.</p>
<p>I was physically and emotionally abused by my father and mother, so have a VERY different view than what y&#8217;all have said.  Suffice it to say that if I have children, they will have timeouts and will &#8211; to the best of my ability &#8211; never be the victims of forceful pain inflicted by an adult because the adult lacks the maturity to explain in terms the child can understand &#8211; or because it&#8217;s easier for them, take your pick.  Timeouts, given correctly, give time for the child to calm down;  they&#8217;re not meant to be used to make the child feel unloved&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Beyonce, I&#8217;m glad she&#8217;s waiting and will have children when she&#8217;s ready.  It sounds like she wants children for a good reason, and not just to further her career.  Good on her.
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meh, I think it&#039;s refreshing when a woman admits she&#039;s not ready for kids, and wants to focus on her career. I know too many women who spend a crapload of money for college and sometimes even grad school, to only become one-dimensional blabbering about poopy diapers and temper tantrums. Incredibly sad, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meh, I think it&#8217;s refreshing when a woman admits she&#8217;s not ready for kids, and wants to focus on her career. I know too many women who spend a crapload of money for college and sometimes even grad school, to only become one-dimensional blabbering about poopy diapers and temper tantrums. Incredibly sad, really.
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		<title>By: ff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not feeling that, I can understand displining a child and giving them a smack if they&#039;re exceptionally obnoxious, however, slapping a 19 year old in public? Recourse to violence is the only way to check your daughter&#039;s ego? Nope, don&#039;t believe in that. Not for something like that anyway.

Find another way.

If your kid was trying to shake down your personal possessions to sell for crack - then I think some kind of a slap might be in order. 

Beyonce probably doesn&#039;t want to have kids because she&#039;s terrified of turning into her mother. I don&#039;t blame her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not feeling that, I can understand displining a child and giving them a smack if they&#8217;re exceptionally obnoxious, however, slapping a 19 year old in public? Recourse to violence is the only way to check your daughter&#8217;s ego? Nope, don&#8217;t believe in that. Not for something like that anyway.</p>
<p>Find another way.</p>
<p>If your kid was trying to shake down your personal possessions to sell for crack &#8211; then I think some kind of a slap might be in order. </p>
<p>Beyonce probably doesn&#8217;t want to have kids because she&#8217;s terrified of turning into her mother. I don&#8217;t blame her.
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		<title>By: Elle</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the only time that I can remember being slapped was at a Thanksgiving celebration. My mom was talking and I kept interrupting and she told me that I needed to be quite but instead I continued to throw my two cents in... suddenly as I was about to put the fork in my mouth I said something that I had no business (don&#039;t remember what it was) and my mom slapped the fork into my mouth. I remember it bouncing off the back of my throat and from then on I never interrupted again. I think that sometimes people become overly senstitive when it comes to the idea of spanking because they think that it automatically means leaving welts and bruises on your child. I think that a pop her on the hand or the butt is not a problem.I got regular spanking and I&#039;m perfectly fine.

I was watching Nanny 911 on this little girl was kicking her mom in the stomach and punching her in the back. I sat there thinking to myself,&quot;Why is it okay for the child to punch and kick her mother, but if the mother turns her around and smacks her butt then she is a bad parent!&quot; I just think that society sometimes as a strange sense of what is right and what is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the only time that I can remember being slapped was at a Thanksgiving celebration. My mom was talking and I kept interrupting and she told me that I needed to be quite but instead I continued to throw my two cents in&#8230; suddenly as I was about to put the fork in my mouth I said something that I had no business (don&#8217;t remember what it was) and my mom slapped the fork into my mouth. I remember it bouncing off the back of my throat and from then on I never interrupted again. I think that sometimes people become overly senstitive when it comes to the idea of spanking because they think that it automatically means leaving welts and bruises on your child. I think that a pop her on the hand or the butt is not a problem.I got regular spanking and I&#8217;m perfectly fine.</p>
<p>I was watching Nanny 911 on this little girl was kicking her mom in the stomach and punching her in the back. I sat there thinking to myself,&#8221;Why is it okay for the child to punch and kick her mother, but if the mother turns her around and smacks her butt then she is a bad parent!&#8221; I just think that society sometimes as a strange sense of what is right and what is wrong.
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