Comments on: Kramer cements his status as a punch line http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 00:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mr. T http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8382 Mr. T Thu, 23 Nov 2006 18:48:15 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8382 OK Lena, "Some blacks" but with that said, I know several who play basketball and call each other the N word. I stand corrected. Regards, OK Lena,

“Some blacks” but with that said, I know several who play basketball and call each other the N word. I stand corrected.

Regards,

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]]> By: Lena http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8337 Lena Thu, 23 Nov 2006 02:58:35 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8337 For Mr. T... It really irks me when people say that "Blacks call each other nigger and take pride in that...If black people think the word nigger is so disrespectful, then why do they use it all the time themselves?" I'm black and I NEVER use the "N" word. I think it is rude to imply that all black people say the "N" and use it with pride, because it is simply not true. I have plenty of friends and relatives who do not say it because they feel it is offensive. I really hate that argument from some people from other ethnicites/races. Not every black person says that word and it is rude to suggest that all of us do. If you did not mean it that way, you probably should've typed "some blacks" instead of "black people"... you simply cant say or imply that the actions of some speak for the entire ethnic group. Now onto Mr. Richards, from what I've read and heard the guys were saying to him that he was not funny and heckling him. I do think it is rude to bother someone when they are performing and they guys were rude for doing so, but to make references to lynching is horrible. That actually bothered me more than the use of the "N" word. It also bothers me that when Richard's went on his "rant", the men responded by calling him a "C". We can't combate racism or point out to someone the error of their ways by yelling racial slurs back at them. It serves no purpose, they were doing fine when they said "it wasn't necessary" but they lost me they yelled the "C" word back. I do think he might be a little "off", something is not right about him in that video. I hope he gets some help. For Mr. T…

It really irks me when people say that “Blacks call each other nigger and take pride in that…If black people think the word nigger is so disrespectful, then why do they use it all the time themselves?”

I’m black and I NEVER use the “N” word. I think it is rude to imply that all black people say the “N” and use it with pride, because it is simply not true. I have plenty of friends and relatives who do not say it because they feel it is offensive. I really hate that argument from some people from other ethnicites/races. Not every black person says that word and it is rude to suggest that all of us do. If you did not mean it that way, you probably should’ve typed “some blacks” instead of “black people”… you simply cant say or imply that the actions of some speak for the entire ethnic group.

Now onto Mr. Richards, from what I’ve read and heard the guys were saying to him that he was not funny and heckling him. I do think it is rude to bother someone when they are performing and they guys were rude for doing so, but to make references to lynching is horrible. That actually bothered me more than the use of the “N” word. It also bothers me that when Richard’s went on his “rant”, the men responded by calling him a “C”. We can’t combate racism or point out to someone the error of their ways by yelling racial slurs back at them. It serves no purpose, they were doing fine when they said “it wasn’t necessary” but they lost me they yelled the “C” word back. I do think he might be a little “off”, something is not right about him in that video. I hope he gets some help.

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]]> By: Mr. T http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8304 Mr. T Wed, 22 Nov 2006 21:57:46 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8304 First, we did not see what happened to Michael before the out bursts. I'm not on either side of this. It seems like there was bad behavior on both sides. It is rude to heckle anyone performing - poor form and it is poor form for the entertainer to heckle back rudely. Now with that said, Mike is a physical comic and he may have been trying to react in a (sadly) comedic manner to this heckling, who can say? I am tired of the race card being played. Blacks call each other nigger and take pride in that. Even if a white man would call a black person nigger in good spirits, it is considerated an insult. So what is up with that? If black people think the word nigger is so disrespectful, then why do the use it all the time themselves? This issue is overblown and overplayed. People need to give it a rest. Really, are there not real problems in the world today? People have to pay attention to this crap? First, we did not see what happened to Michael before the out bursts. I’m not on either side of this. It seems like there was bad behavior on both sides. It is rude to heckle anyone performing – poor form and it is poor form for the entertainer to heckle back rudely. Now with that said, Mike is a physical comic and he may have been trying to react in a (sadly) comedic manner to this heckling, who can say? I am tired of the race card being played. Blacks call each other nigger and take pride in that. Even if a white man would call a black person nigger in good spirits, it is considerated an insult. So what is up with that? If black people think the word nigger is so disrespectful, then why do the use it all the time themselves? This issue is overblown and overplayed. People need to give it a rest. Really, are there not real problems in the world today? People have to pay attention to this crap?

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]]> By: Action http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8242 Action Wed, 22 Nov 2006 03:07:42 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8242 I agree with everyone here. And I agree that it raises an eyebrow when someone says over and over, "I'm not a racist." Thou doth protest too much! And yeah, if he's not a racist, why on earth would he first THINK these thoughts and then VOCALIZE them. No excuse for that kind of behavior. I agree with everyone here. And I agree that it raises an eyebrow when someone says over and over, “I’m not a racist.” Thou doth protest too much!

And yeah, if he’s not a racist, why on earth would he first THINK these thoughts and then VOCALIZE them.

No excuse for that kind of behavior.

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]]> By: Marines Vixen http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8219 Marines Vixen Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:11:05 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8219 No matter it was unacceptable behavior. I too took the test when I entered the Marines and was told I was a "slight" racist. Everyone has preferences of what kind of people they want around them. That is just the animal in us wanting to be with our own kind. Do most of us act upon it, no, that makes us tolerant. No matter it was unacceptable behavior. I too took the test when I entered the Marines and was told I was a “slight” racist. Everyone has preferences of what kind of people they want around them. That is just the animal in us wanting to be with our own kind. Do most of us act upon it, no, that makes us tolerant.

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]]> By: madmaxmedia http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8216 madmaxmedia Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:31:02 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8216 Obviously, his behavior was unnacceptable. And I agree that why would someone ever go there, if he's not a rascist? I am curious what happened to provoke the outburst. However, this is a comedy club! Hecklers are to be expected, and comedians have routines to shut them up. Except they're normally supposed to be funny, not scare the audience... Obviously, his behavior was unnacceptable. And I agree that why would someone ever go there, if he’s not a rascist?

I am curious what happened to provoke the outburst. However, this is a comedy club! Hecklers are to be expected, and comedians have routines to shut them up. Except they’re normally supposed to be funny, not scare the audience…

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]]> By: Flibbertygibbet http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8209 Flibbertygibbet Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:33:33 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8209 I totally agree with gigo. It is obviously not okay to call someone a n*****r, and by the same token, nor is it okay to call anybody a cracker. It's the same thing. Racism is racism. Plain and simple. You yell cracker at somebody and you've started another race fight. and vice versa. I totally agree with gigo. It is obviously not okay to call someone a n*****r, and by the same token, nor is it okay to call anybody a cracker. It’s the same thing. Racism is racism. Plain and simple. You yell cracker at somebody and you’ve started another race fight. and vice versa.

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]]> By: Gigohead http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8205 Gigohead Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:18:23 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8205 Oh..I agree about that..No one should be called the N word, nor does a white person should be called a "cracker. I'm not taking any sides since this was provoked from both ends. It was an ugly scene that's played out every where. With modern technology, it's now being taped. I don't blame Jerry for defending his friend, it's clear to me from what I've seen something is not right with Richards. He has some mental issues. Oh..I agree about that..No one should be called the N word, nor does a white person should be called a “cracker. I’m not taking any sides since this was provoked from both ends.

It was an ugly scene that’s played out every where. With modern technology, it’s now being taped.

I don’t blame Jerry for defending his friend, it’s clear to me from what I’ve seen something is not right with Richards. He has some mental issues.

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]]> By: lotus girl http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8183 lotus girl Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:45:06 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8183 ok, but gigohead, it doesn't matter if these guys were heckling or not, the point is NO ONE should be called the "N" word and NO ONE should reference lynching. hecklers are hecklers, shame on them for being obnoxious, but DO NOT ever reduce a human being to a less-than-human-being, which is what racist name calling and wish-i-could-kill-you statements do... (incidentally, i'm curious if jerry seinfeld would have come to richards' defense so quickly had he been slinging mud at jewish people- did he defend mel gibson?) ok, but gigohead, it doesn’t matter if these guys were heckling or not, the point is NO ONE should be called the “N” word and NO ONE should reference lynching. hecklers are hecklers, shame on them for being obnoxious, but DO NOT ever reduce a human being to a less-than-human-being, which is what racist name calling and wish-i-could-kill-you statements do…
(incidentally, i’m curious if jerry seinfeld would have come to richards’ defense so quickly had he been slinging mud at jewish people- did he defend mel gibson?)

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]]> By: Gigohead http://www.celebitchy.com/2206/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line/#comment-8182 Gigohead Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:38:22 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/index.php/archives/2006/11/kramer_cements_his_status_as_a_punch_line.html#comment-8182 Looks to me like it was bad from both sides. That's why I'm not siding with anyone. Had these black men been sitting in the front row, quietly enjoying the show and Richards had called them the "N" word, then it would be clear who is at fault. But the hecklers, regardless of their race, were there to make sure no one enjoyed the show. They were there to cause trouble -- just so happen that Richards was performing that night. I can't go by the video tape either. By the time the person programmed the camera to shoot video, it had seem to me that something was going down much earlier. Richards, who is most likely needs some meds to control his bipolar condition, needs to re-evaluate whether stand up is the right career venue for him. It seems to me only the strong-willed and even keeled can survive that line of work. Looks to me like it was bad from both sides. That’s why I’m not siding with anyone. Had these black men been sitting in the front row, quietly enjoying the show and Richards had called them the “N” word, then it would be clear who is at fault. But the hecklers, regardless of their race, were there to make sure no one enjoyed the show. They were there to cause trouble — just so happen that Richards was performing that night. I can’t go by the video tape either. By the time the person programmed the camera to shoot video, it had seem to me that something was going down much earlier.

Richards, who is most likely needs some meds to control his bipolar condition, needs to re-evaluate whether stand up is the right career venue for him. It seems to me only the strong-willed and even keeled can survive that line of work.

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