OK! Magazine was around and videotaping will Jill Zarin of Real Housewives of New York was getting her makeup done. (That video is here. I would embed it, but it starts automatically.) Jill was sitting back in the chair being worked on and she spent a lot of time talking smack, as one does in those type of situations. (I have told my hairdressers so much personal sh*t over the years.) The context of the video doesn’t make it clear whether Jill is aware she’s being videotaped in some kind of semi-formal interview situation, or whether she’s just speaking off the cuff and doesn’t know she’s on the record. Maybe they set it up that way so she could be extra bitchy and then claim that she didn’t know the camera was running. Anyway Jill drops some real gems here:
I think you’re supposed to be married before you get pregnant. I really like them, I’ve met some of them and on a personal note I think they’re really nice people… You know these girls have this incredible gift of power, being able to communicate with so many people.
Why can’t they teach young people the right thing to do? Why can’t they set good examples? I know it’s no one’s business what they do with their bodies or with themselves but I feel like it would be nice if they set a good example… It makes it harder for parents when their kids look up to and idolize these celebrities. It makes it harder for parents to instill values in their own children. They can say ‘Well look at Kim Kardashian.’ What are you supposed to say?
[From video posted on OK! Magazine]
There are so many things wrong with this asinine argument I don’t know where to start. Maybe it annoys me that she is claiming that women should be married before they get pregnant, because I waited until after I had a baby. So here I am defending Kim and Kourtney Kardashian on that point. Who cares if Kim is married to some other guy or ends up having a child out of wedlock? There was no cheating, she’s in a relationship and even if she wasn’t – these women are not role models! These are celebrities, celebrities should not be your children’s role models. Don’t blame some public figure for your child’s values, that’s up to you to instill in them. If they’re looking up to celebrities or sports stars, there’s something wrong.
Also, how is this woman who stars on a trashy reality show dissing a more famous family from a trashy reality show? The last time we reported on Jill Zarin, she was bragging about all the Botox and fillers she’d had – really! How is that some amazing example to set for your children? I had no idea about this, but I guess Jill has a daughter who is in college, Ally, whom Jill has been less than supportive of on the show. I don’t watch it, but Crushable claims that Jill took Ally shopping a couple of years ago and that Jill “made some harsh comments about [Ally’s] weight and figure.” So Jill is super worried about some reality star influencing her daughter’s life choices, while she denigrates her daughter in front of a camera. Pot, meet kettle.
Photo of Jill and Ally is from July, 2012. Other photos from July and October, 2012. Credit: WENN.com
She is technically married and then pregnant😂
Kim has two failed marriages and Kourtney doesn’t need to be married to Scott Disick. The Kardashian’s are not role models and no one should care that they are not married. This is the same Jill Zarin that just complimented Kim K. to the Huffington Post in an interview less than a month ago.
To be honest, from what little I have seen of the show, I think Scott and Kourtney need to either break up or quit having babies. At least until the fix whatever’s between them.
I don’t know if he’s a good father, but I do know that he is a crappy boyfriend. I don’t understand why, if she feels like he wouldn’t be the right guy to marry, why is she still having kids with him? (awkward wording)
I’m not saying we all need to be married before having kids with anyone. I just don’t understand how you can say you’re not ready for marriage, but you’ll have kids with the guy. I could see if you didn’t believe in marriage, or just didn’t feel it was necessary for a good homelife/relationship.
She has two kids with this guy, so she’s stuck with him for life, in some capacity.
Besides that, I don’t think they are good role models for anything.
@Ms. Smuf THANK YOU! Why is she still having kids with that tool when she knows she might not marry him or is just waiting for him to change. It’s not going to happen the moron will not change. I always thought having kids is a bigger deal then getting married to someone. I’m not that bothered by what Jill zarin said she actually said it somewhat nicely. She’s just explaining herself. But maybe she sounds better in text then in the video. Also sometimes moms do make comments about children being overweight. It’s not always meant to hurt yr child. I think zarin wanted her to lose weight for health reasons. You just want them to be healthy. It hurts feelings but seriously anything we do hurts feelings nowadays. Her daughter is still very pretty tho.
Lol.
+1
Pregnant before marriage? Fetch me the smelling salts, I shall swoon from the horror! Women must protect their precious virtue and honor! The Kardashians have brought shame upon their house!
The Lardassians are whores. They should just be ignored.
Let’s be mean and leave a collective, “who?”
I think I can say ‘who?’ without being mean. I live in Australia and we don’t get the real housewives shows on our regular TV. This is the first I’ve heard of her and my initial impression is: Silly cow. It’s not 1940 anymore sweetie. Plus, her daughter is cute and this woman is stupid for not seeing it.
I didn’t really think it was all that bitchy.
Really, not bitchy?
I don’t want to sound like trailer trash without even a GED (as I’m working my a$$ off right now). So, I’ll resist the urge to just say, “suck a d!ck” to Jill.
When there are children all over the world who are so desperately in need of just one person to love them, how can anyone be so rigid about a perfect, old-school family scenario for a child? Ugg.
I definitely don’t think you have to be married to have a baby. But when you are married to one man (seperated or not) and are pregnant with another man’s child… That is just trashy. I don’t care what anyone says, I will never defend Kim for getting pregnant by Kanye.
I think it’s funny because Kim used to bitch at Kourtney for not marrying Scott and claimed it was her ‘morals’ that you should be married if you have kids. She also used to talk about how important marriage was to her. So to me, it’s hilarious that she’d file for divorce after 72 and get pregnant while still married. I couldn’t care less about marriage, it means nothing to me, but if you’re going to get in your high horse like Kim, expect people to call you out.
Yep, I agree – and especially expect to be called out when you continually pimp out your personal life to the public. I’m glad you mentioned the 72 day marriage. Just goes to show how flippant Kim is about the really important things in life.
THIS! Sam you nailed it! I couldn’t have said it better myself. She is as hypocritical as they come, not to mention trashy.
If you are married your husband should be the father of your child but what does one expect when one’s claim to fame is being peed on by the sibling of a D-lister on videotape.
I think Jill Zarin should be more concerned about that horrible sex tape being acceptable in our society.
In short she is spot on about Kim Kartrashian, Kourtney Kartrashian is not living a life based on my personal morals but whatever, as long as she’s not famous for a perverted sex tape, or having a child that is not her husband’s I don’t think she should be excoriated for having a lack of brain power.
Kim Lardassian is just a piece of trash @$@#@!!!!
whatever your name is….
SIT DOWN.
Amen to this.
Well…it does seem like if you are pregnant AND married, you ought to be married to the baby’s father and not a different man….just my two cents.
YES!
Alternately: you should be divorced before you get pregnant [via a new partner].
I’m such a square.
Ugh. This bothers me because I’m pregnant and still not divorced from my ex. I don’t think I’m trashy! My ex and I were married for 4 years. We’ve been separated for 3. The divorce is taking forever and we both live with new partners. I’m not getting any younger, so… We decided to start trying and it happened pretty fast.
I’m scared to announce when the time comes. All these judgers!!!
Usually I am not that judgemental of these things but there is a huge difference between being unmarried and pregnant and being married but pregnant by another dude. Whatever the explanation the latter is just trashy. If Kim actually intends to be a good mom she should sign anullment papers and write a nice check to Kris.
She just needs to kiss his ass and do whatever it takes and that is give him an annulment, tell the truth (hard for krapTrashian I know) and do the right thing. Not too hard. And also is Kourtney married to her kids’ dad? I don’t think so. So yep one rich trash bag got it right on this one and it is not krapTrashian.
I doubt Kris H even wants a check. Just the truth. She is so afraid of the skeletons in her closet.
Mmmm hmmm! She won’t give him an annulment because she doesn’t want the world to know the worst of her worst secrets. If this goes to trial, it’ll be interesting to see what does come out. I find it telling that Kris Humphries is so willing to hand over his financial records, but Kim refuses to do so…
Littlestar, you were married for YEARS not DAYS. Real life divorces can take a long time; mine did too. Reality tv divorces also take a long time if they involve allegations of fraud, etc. Just how fast Kim K moved on to Kanye makes me think Kris H has a valid argument for annulment.
My divorce took a long time bc we waited to both be employed before filing. Wish that hadn’t taken 2 years but we wanted NSA divorce. Glad you have moved on and found happiness!
yeah, cause that’s the only thing wrong with this family…B please…
This.
I think whoever wrote this article did so just to mention she got married after having a baby.
God she looks like my husband’s crazy aunt. This woman is on TV?????
She was but she got fired from the show she was on like a year ago.
What an outdated viewpoint. NEXT.
The old ways were the best ways. They worked for millenia. I guess this makes me an old fuddy duddy.
This will not be a popular opinion because for some reason it’s no longer cool to be married to one person for life and raise a family with that person. When did this happen that to have a mother-father-kids family is outdated? I know the bashing is coming but I think the better point is that we glorify shopping, plastic surgery, 10k purses, multiple marriages, divorces, kids out of wedlock, and have disdain for the husband and wife working multiple jobs to support a family they chose to create. Shame on the men who run from kids they created and shame on the women who have kids with any Tom Dick or Harry who gets in the bed.
@happycats: “I think the better point is that we… have disdain for the husband and wife working multiple jobs to support a family they chose to create.”
What. on. earth. are you talking about? I have never, EVER heard anyone say anything disparaging about people working hard to provide for their families. (Apart from insulting the lower classes in general.) And that goes for both married and unmarried parents.
I carefully chose the words husband and wife – now you figure it out
@happycats: And I carefully chose the phrase both married and unmarried parents because I’ve never heard anyone say anything disparaging about husbands and wives doing everything they can to support their children or people that co-parent who are doing the same.
Your response does not change the fact that no one is bashing struggling husbands and wives. Could you please answer my question instead of trying to turn the argument? Who is bashing husbands and wives who do everything they can to support their children?
@happycats: I’m assuming that you’re including Kourtney Kardashian in this statement even though when you were commenting on marriage earlier this month I pointed out that my situation was similar to hers (after you insulted the Kardashians having kids out of wedlock) and you tried to pretend my situation was fine, refused to address the fact that you referenced Kourtney, and then tried to redirect the conversation to someone else:
http://www.celebitchy.com/272710/honey_boo_boos_mom_is_putting_all_the_reality_show_money_in_a_trust_surprisingly_smart_/#comment-13124667
Honestly your posts on this subject are laughable. Literally. I have no problem with you having your own opinion, but you need to learn how to defend it in a rational way and that includes actually addressing people’s comments and questions. If you did that then people wouldn’t “bash” you, they would just respectfully disagree with you like I *tried* to before.
@Sheeeeeesh: I’m pro-marriage, but that’s a horrible argument. There are plenty of cultures that “for millenia” have not had marriage or not had marriage in the way that we think of it. The walking marriages of the Mosuo would be the obvious example. Next time talk about all the positives that marriage brings instead of just blindly (and wrongly) saying that we’ve been doing it this way forever so it has to be the only way to do things properly.
YAWN;
and the little mousy woman said……….
Who the hell is she, why do I care what she says and she is totally soccer mom vanilla plain.
She looks like a rat in the pic blowing kisses….
I saw the episode Jill was getting on her daughter’s case about losing weight. Her daughter has diabetes and needs to lose weight. No hate on that from me.
As far as the marriage before babies and egads- married to one man while having another man’s baby *clutches pearls*. Both of my children were born out of wedlock and I conceived my eldest while still technically married to my first husband. The only reason he finally signed the papers was because I was pregnant and in California, the husband is automatically the father. Does it make me trashy? I guess. Do I care? No, not really. We’d been separated over a year and he was balking at signing so I moved on with my life. One of the best things that ever happened to me. 🙂
@dovie I actually am going to apologize to you for my earlier comment because your circumstance sounds far from trashy. I still think Kim who perpetrated fraud on Kris the dunce should admit her mistake and agree to an annulment for her kids sake.
Birth Control???
@dovie, if she has diabetes and needs to lose weight there are better ways to do it than call her out on tv. Try helping her learn new ways to cook. There are all types of cookbooks geared to those who are diabetic. I think it is awful to call someone out on their weight (except on those shows that are dealing with weight issues like Biggest Loser) in front of others.
In the first or second season (the only two I watched), Jill sent her daughter to a special camp/clinic for a couple of months so Allie could lose weight and improve her health. (The focus being on her health.) So she has done good things to help her daughter, that being said she also does pick on her daughter’s looks which is never okay. Just remind her that she needs to eat healthfully so she’ll feel better, not so she’ll look better.
I agree with her. I think it’s incredibly trashy to get pregnant by just a boyfriend (Kourtney and Scott) or by the dude you’re sleeping with while still technically married (Kim and Kanye). It’s 2013 and people are so hell bent on being modern and progressive, that it feels like people look down on traditional family values now. My opinion may not be popular, but I don’t care.
I’m all about traditional families,
so why doesn’t the deeply religious Humphries get out of the way and let that baby have a family?
Marriage doesn’t always equal committment, that is obvious. I just wish people would think more about children’s wellfare before having them.
I think I’m lucky. I never idolized celebrities. Sure I loved particular ones but I never wanted to be them or use them as models. My mother was who I want to be. She told me early on that these are just people. Same thing with church elders and pastors. Don’t elevate them beyond people status. They maybe more money but that’s it. My mom was so amazing. And I’ll pass that on to may own children some day. 🙂
Raising a child is rewarding and is hard work. Why not set your child up for potentially a more stable home life with 2 parents verses one parent? If One parent dies of cancer the child is essentially on their own. Yes, there may be an aunt or an uncle available to care for them but there is no substitute for a parent’s love and support.
I think a woman’s need for a child is somewhat selfish when she “intentionally” goes into parenthood without a partner. I am not referring to those women who are single parents due to deadbeat dad, divorce,death etc….
Having a kid is always selfish.
Oh I so hope you’re kidding.
I agree; the reason for having a baby us wishing for one. Not the babies wish , since they are not there yet.
Thank you! I was just having this conversation yesterday. Children are a want, not a need.
One should also be mature and responsible before taking on the most important job in the world: parenthood. It is not only selfish NOT to be, but also foolish.
The entitlement individuals feel they are owed in life is appalling. Be givers, not takers.
Honestly, does anybody care what Jill thinks. I read the New York Housewives might get cancelled, because of bad ratings.
What do you mean? Kim K IS married!!!
Jill trying to be relevant again will do or say anything to be in the media.
Get over yourself Jill…even BRAVO couldn’t stand her media whoring ways..that is pretty trashy when BRAVO cans a RealityShow Celebrity because of their conniving, media whoring, back stabbing ways..just saying. Her 15 minutes were up years ago…
Sour grapes. She’s no longer relevant. Not so sure she ever was actually. If you haven’t seen her WWHL with Andy you’ll know what I’m talking about. She should be embarrassed.
I don’t like the woman, but she’s stated what alot of us are thinking. How about not getting pregnant before divorcing your husband? The Kardashian’s are really just a trashy lot.
Who is this?
Love that she’s bothered by that, but not by a mother using her kid’s s*x tape to create a family empire and pimping out every aspect of their personal lives.
Her girl is way more beautiful than her. Georgous eyes and hair.
+1 Her daughter is very beautiful. I think Jill’s jealous of her, how sad…
I think if 2 people have a child and possess the maturity to put their child’s needs above their own, then I don’t see how the status of these parents relationship should be called into question. I will say that despite my feelings on the Kardashians being famewhores, I think Kourtney is a good mom. I think when the time comes, Khloe will be a good mom too. I’m praying that pregnancy and childbirth will be a life-altering even for Kim and she realizes it’s not always about her.
Jill Zarin is a washed up ex-housewife who is bitter. I wouldn’t take anything she says seriously.
Honestly, I wouldn’t have a kid unless I was married first to the father, but that’s my personal believe and I would not tell other women they have to do the same. Although, I do think it’s trashy to still be married to one man and now pregnant with other man’s baby. But this is Kim we are talking about, so the word “class” doesn’t apply.
“I know it’s no one’s business what they do with their bodies or with themselves ”
yeah, you said it all, so STFU lady!
The problem with sweeping statements like this is exactly that it makes you defend idiots like KK. There’s no one right formula to producing happy, well adjusted children (plenty of traditionally married people have failed at that), but it’s not terrible to suggest that people should strive to have their own lives in order, with some degree of emotional maturity, before reproducing. But, hey, plenty of kids have survived worse childhoods than this little heir is going to have.
I like how she was talking about the Kardashians, specifically, and not to the whole world.
So does the same rule apply to Monica Cruz? (Penelope’s sister) who is having a baby via sperm donor… ? Surely her situation is a little worse than Kim’s, who is having a baby with her partner… Or is it just that this woman doesn’t like Kim?
I’m not bothered by this. I’m also not bothered by Kim’s sex tape. Who cares… To each their own. If you don’t like it, don’t support it. But live & let live… I’m bothered by murderers, rapists, thieves, white collar crime… These things are much worse than Kim Kardashian having a baby out of wedlock.. or releasing a tape of her having sex. Like we all don’t have sex. So who is hurt by people viewing it? If you don’t like it, don’t view it. Simple as that…
Word.
Marriage is an outdated concept just like religion. It’s also a racket for those who profit financially from it.
Here are so many worse ” role” models than the Kardashians. Rihanna is a great example.