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		<title>By: Pandy</title>
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		<description>Right on V4Real - nothing humane about how animals are killed in the US (or anywhere really) at all.  I DARE all of you pro dead animal consumers to watch this video and then come back and argue your position about humane killing.  Even the words are an oxymoron.  Check out this link.  Then let&#039;s have a discussion:  http://www.chooseveg.com/meet-your-meat.asp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on V4Real &#8211; nothing humane about how animals are killed in the US (or anywhere really) at all.  I DARE all of you pro dead animal consumers to watch this video and then come back and argue your position about humane killing.  Even the words are an oxymoron.  Check out this link.  Then let&#8217;s have a discussion:  <a href="http://www.chooseveg.com/meet-your-meat.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.chooseveg.com/meet-your-meat.asp</a>
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		<title>By: Pandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 01:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a vegan and proud of it.  Proud PETA supporter too.  Someone has to stick up for the billions of animals slaughtered for food and held in miserable conditions for their short, sh*tty lives.  You are making a big deal about PETA because deep down, you know you are perpetuating the awful conditions of these enslaved animals.  Look deeper into the issues.  We can&#039;t &quot;go spit&quot; over everything that makes us uncomfortable.  That&#039;s just sticking your head in the sand and hoping others fix it.  Be part of the solution.  Try compassionate living. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a vegan and proud of it.  Proud PETA supporter too.  Someone has to stick up for the billions of animals slaughtered for food and held in miserable conditions for their short, sh*tty lives.  You are making a big deal about PETA because deep down, you know you are perpetuating the awful conditions of these enslaved animals.  Look deeper into the issues.  We can&#8217;t &#8220;go spit&#8221; over everything that makes us uncomfortable.  That&#8217;s just sticking your head in the sand and hoping others fix it.  Be part of the solution.  Try compassionate living. Peace.
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		<title>By: marie</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a disgusting celebrity beyonce is</description>
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		<title>By: Ranunculus</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 10:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sam
very well said!</description>
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very well said!
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		<title>By: V4Real</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 00:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Original I love how people like to throw out the word ignorant when people don&#039;t agree with them. I know just as much as you do about how that fur is harvest; I &#039;ve seen the videos as well. But don&#039;t you  try to tell me that animals killed in the US are killed in humane ways. I know for a fact it doesn&#039;t always happen like you described. Want to know how I know because I&#039;ve seen it with my own eyes. When I was down south I have seen chickens being swung around by the neck until dead and it doesn&#039;t always happen  quickly. They swing these chicks by the neck then toss the body to the ground but you know what sometimes they don&#039;t die and their bodies twitch in pain. The handler would then finish the job by putting their feet to the chick heads. When they chop of f the chicks head instead of wringing it&#039;s neck the body of that chicken gets up and flap about until finally dying. You call that humane. Before they kill hogs they have to go through what they call the faten up phase. A hog is kept in a pin or cage made out of wood no bigger than the size of an  average closet. They do this to keep the hog from being mobile so it gets no exercise that may cause it to lose weight. Oh and they stay cage for 2 month periods sometimes. Can you imagine being confined in a space the size of a closet for 2 months or longer. Now here comes the slaughter. They tie a rope around the hogs neck and while one person holds the poor thing steady another person will shoot it in the head or take the back of an ax to his head. They don&#039;t always die. But the handler likes to give it time to see if they need to do anything else. So why they wait for that hog to die the poor thing is there suffering and dying a slow painful death. If the handler feels too much time has passed they will then take a knife to its throat. There was this one farmer that already had his hog hanging in the air believing it was dead but soon as he started to gut the poor thing it squeeled out in pain scaring the crap out of the whole lot of us. But to you this is humane and ok because these animals are used to feed us. Hunting with bow and arrows are popular down south and some places up North. Let me tell you these deers, turkeys and so on don&#039;t die right away.  They suffer a slow and painful death sometimes but that&#039;s cool with you because they will be eaten so it doesn&#039;t matter how they die. But like I said I guess it would be ok if the people would eat those animals that they are killing for fur. Please don&#039;t call me ignorant on a topic I am all to familar with. BTW there have been many reports on animals that are meant for slaugher being killed in inhumane ways as well as tortured. You can&#039;t tell me much about animals being killed under duress causing undesireable flavors in meat becausr I&#039;ve seen it. They also pump these animals full of steroids. If you were a cow how would you like someone branding your butt. Excuse me for ranting but this is something that I am well adversed in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Original I love how people like to throw out the word ignorant when people don&#8217;t agree with them. I know just as much as you do about how that fur is harvest; I &#8216;ve seen the videos as well. But don&#8217;t you  try to tell me that animals killed in the US are killed in humane ways. I know for a fact it doesn&#8217;t always happen like you described. Want to know how I know because I&#8217;ve seen it with my own eyes. When I was down south I have seen chickens being swung around by the neck until dead and it doesn&#8217;t always happen  quickly. They swing these chicks by the neck then toss the body to the ground but you know what sometimes they don&#8217;t die and their bodies twitch in pain. The handler would then finish the job by putting their feet to the chick heads. When they chop of f the chicks head instead of wringing it&#8217;s neck the body of that chicken gets up and flap about until finally dying. You call that humane. Before they kill hogs they have to go through what they call the faten up phase. A hog is kept in a pin or cage made out of wood no bigger than the size of an  average closet. They do this to keep the hog from being mobile so it gets no exercise that may cause it to lose weight. Oh and they stay cage for 2 month periods sometimes. Can you imagine being confined in a space the size of a closet for 2 months or longer. Now here comes the slaughter. They tie a rope around the hogs neck and while one person holds the poor thing steady another person will shoot it in the head or take the back of an ax to his head. They don&#8217;t always die. But the handler likes to give it time to see if they need to do anything else. So why they wait for that hog to die the poor thing is there suffering and dying a slow painful death. If the handler feels too much time has passed they will then take a knife to its throat. There was this one farmer that already had his hog hanging in the air believing it was dead but soon as he started to gut the poor thing it squeeled out in pain scaring the crap out of the whole lot of us. But to you this is humane and ok because these animals are used to feed us. Hunting with bow and arrows are popular down south and some places up North. Let me tell you these deers, turkeys and so on don&#8217;t die right away.  They suffer a slow and painful death sometimes but that&#8217;s cool with you because they will be eaten so it doesn&#8217;t matter how they die. But like I said I guess it would be ok if the people would eat those animals that they are killing for fur. Please don&#8217;t call me ignorant on a topic I am all to familar with. BTW there have been many reports on animals that are meant for slaugher being killed in inhumane ways as well as tortured. You can&#8217;t tell me much about animals being killed under duress causing undesireable flavors in meat becausr I&#8217;ve seen it. They also pump these animals full of steroids. If you were a cow how would you like someone branding your butt. Excuse me for ranting but this is something that I am well adversed in.
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		<title>By: The Original Tiffany</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@V4Real, you are ignorant about the practices of the meat and fur industries. Meat is killed as humanely as possible. Animals killed under duress release adrenaline and other chemicals into their muscles. That is not desirable, it ruins the flavor of the meat. Animals that are humanely killed either by captive bolt, by beheading or getting their throat slit is being killed humanely. 
Fur is harvested without regard to meat quality, but to pelt quality alone. Electrocution, painful days in a trap, etc, that is how fur winds up as a coat and none of the animal is used, just the pelt.

There is a HUGE difference. I am no fan of PETA, but facts are facts. Beheading is extremely humane, being electrocuted through your anus? Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@V4Real, you are ignorant about the practices of the meat and fur industries. Meat is killed as humanely as possible. Animals killed under duress release adrenaline and other chemicals into their muscles. That is not desirable, it ruins the flavor of the meat. Animals that are humanely killed either by captive bolt, by beheading or getting their throat slit is being killed humanely.<br />
Fur is harvested without regard to meat quality, but to pelt quality alone. Electrocution, painful days in a trap, etc, that is how fur winds up as a coat and none of the animal is used, just the pelt.</p>
<p>There is a HUGE difference. I am no fan of PETA, but facts are facts. Beheading is extremely humane, being electrocuted through your anus? Not so much.
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		<title>By: Dahlia1947</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s sick! Go away already!</description>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 22:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear she had a middle parting for her performance. Her hairstyle looks completely different in that pic.

Iguana ? Really...C&#039;mon Bey, you&#039;re better than that.

Her outfit would have looked nice if it was all lace tbh. 

Rubin Singer has some of the tackiest sh-t I&#039;ve ever seen. I&#039;m not one to hate on new designers because it&#039;s a hard industry to break into (even with connections) and he&#039;s really sweet and humble (and very good looking in person) but his stuff is like a a Roberto Cavalli/Ed Hardy mash up sometimes. Maybe he&#039;ll get less tacky the bigger he gets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear she had a middle parting for her performance. Her hairstyle looks completely different in that pic.</p>
<p>Iguana ? Really&#8230;C&#8217;mon Bey, you&#8217;re better than that.</p>
<p>Her outfit would have looked nice if it was all lace tbh. </p>
<p>Rubin Singer has some of the tackiest sh-t I&#8217;ve ever seen. I&#8217;m not one to hate on new designers because it&#8217;s a hard industry to break into (even with connections) and he&#8217;s really sweet and humble (and very good looking in person) but his stuff is like a a Roberto Cavalli/Ed Hardy mash up sometimes. Maybe he&#8217;ll get less tacky the bigger he gets.
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lmaooo</description>
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		<title>By: V4Real</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@IOMA but didn&#039;t I already say that on this same thread where I talked about supply and demand. That&#039;s been covered.

There&#039;s supply and demand in almost every aspect of consumerism. Unfortunately this is how the system operates and probably always will. I&#039;m against any kind of animal cruelty and I have never owned fur in my life. I hate that Elephants are being slaughtered for their tusks. If I see a person abusing animals just for the hell of it I will definetely intervene, especially domestic animals. My problem is with PETA and what they stand for. 

Tell me what makes a mink life more importamt than a rabbit. Is it because humans eat rabbits and I&#039;m sure a very large percentage of us don&#039;t eat mink. Are people saying hey if you eat the mink and then harvest it&#039;s fur that would be more acceptable. If that&#039;s the case it sounds more like PETA is upset that the meat is being wasted. Rabbit coat, Mink coat what&#039;s the difference. Part of @Sam argument is  that it&#039;s more acceptable for some animals to be slaughtered because we use their body parts for nourshiment and other things but it&#039;s not fair to just kill an animal for its hide. Perhaps if we ate that animal it might make a difference. 

Native Americans use to wear clothing made from all kinds of animal hides.  I&#039;m sure if Minks were availabe to them back then, there little Squaws would be looking quite snug in their mink lioncloth while they enjoyed some mink stew.

Maybe PETA should set their sights a little lower and fight for more humane ways fo harvesting the fur or hides. I understand that they are fighting for the animals that can&#039;t fight for themselves, my problem is how they set conditions on which animals to fight for.

If PETA was to bring the case of these animals to a court of law and claim that these are God creatures who are being killed only for the consumer gains of others and nothing more, I wouldn&#039;t see the case going well. 

A simple defense would be people squash bugs for no reasons at all but for their hatred of insects.

I bet there are plenty of men who wear gator shoes but because Hollywood and PETA are so obsessed with what celeb women are wearing they miss the men. How many times have you heard someone ask a male celeb  what kind of shoes are you wearing. God forbid if he say these are my Guicci gators. I just threw that out there, I don&#039;t think Guicci actually make gator shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IOMA but didn&#8217;t I already say that on this same thread where I talked about supply and demand. That&#8217;s been covered.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s supply and demand in almost every aspect of consumerism. Unfortunately this is how the system operates and probably always will. I&#8217;m against any kind of animal cruelty and I have never owned fur in my life. I hate that Elephants are being slaughtered for their tusks. If I see a person abusing animals just for the hell of it I will definetely intervene, especially domestic animals. My problem is with PETA and what they stand for. </p>
<p>Tell me what makes a mink life more importamt than a rabbit. Is it because humans eat rabbits and I&#8217;m sure a very large percentage of us don&#8217;t eat mink. Are people saying hey if you eat the mink and then harvest it&#8217;s fur that would be more acceptable. If that&#8217;s the case it sounds more like PETA is upset that the meat is being wasted. Rabbit coat, Mink coat what&#8217;s the difference. Part of @Sam argument is  that it&#8217;s more acceptable for some animals to be slaughtered because we use their body parts for nourshiment and other things but it&#8217;s not fair to just kill an animal for its hide. Perhaps if we ate that animal it might make a difference. </p>
<p>Native Americans use to wear clothing made from all kinds of animal hides.  I&#8217;m sure if Minks were availabe to them back then, there little Squaws would be looking quite snug in their mink lioncloth while they enjoyed some mink stew.</p>
<p>Maybe PETA should set their sights a little lower and fight for more humane ways fo harvesting the fur or hides. I understand that they are fighting for the animals that can&#8217;t fight for themselves, my problem is how they set conditions on which animals to fight for.</p>
<p>If PETA was to bring the case of these animals to a court of law and claim that these are God creatures who are being killed only for the consumer gains of others and nothing more, I wouldn&#8217;t see the case going well. </p>
<p>A simple defense would be people squash bugs for no reasons at all but for their hatred of insects.</p>
<p>I bet there are plenty of men who wear gator shoes but because Hollywood and PETA are so obsessed with what celeb women are wearing they miss the men. How many times have you heard someone ask a male celeb  what kind of shoes are you wearing. God forbid if he say these are my Guicci gators. I just threw that out there, I don&#8217;t think Guicci actually make gator shoes.
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