Lindsay Lohan is a total mess just like Marilyn Monroe, says LL’s hack director

Lindsay Lohan’s 20-millionth comeback role comes out in August. I’m talking about the Canyons, that micro-financed Bret Easton Ellis-written, softcore p0rn film in which Lindsay was mostly drunk and high during filming. All you need to know about The Canyons was already said in that sad/crazy/funny New York Times behind-the-scenes piece published earlier this year. Basically, this film is a wreck and everybody is terrible (and drunk). But that hasn’t stopped the director, noted hack Paul Schrader, from trying to talk up his film by any means necessary. Even if it means playing into this ridiculous idea that Lindsay is anyway like Marilyn Monroe. We know Lindsay thinks she’s the second coming of Marilyn, so it’s extra-special when a hack director agrees with her. Schrader wrote an essay about it for Film Comment – you can read the full piece here, and here are some highlights:

While preparing and directing The Canyons I was reading James Goode’s book The Making of the Misfits, and I was struck by the similarities between Marilyn Monroe and the actress I was working with, Lindsay Lohan. (I wasn’t the only one so struck. Stephen Rodrick, a writer for The New York Times Magazine who was on set with us, titled his article about the film “The Misfits,” which appeared on the cover with the line: “This is what happens when you cast Lindsay Lohan in your movie.” Not even the Times is immune to the hurricane force of the LiLo phenomenon.)

Similarities? Tardiness, unpredictability, tantrums, absences, neediness, psychodrama—yes, all that, but something more, that thing that keeps you watching someone on screen, that thing you can’t take your eyes off of, that magic, that mystery. That thing that made John Huston say, I wonder why I put myself through all this, then I go to dailies.

Monroe and Lohan exist in the space between actors and celebrities, people whose professional and personal performances are more or less indistinguishable. Entertainers understand the distinction. To be successful, a performer controls the balance between the professional and personal, that is, he or she makes it seem like the professional is personal. It is the lack of this control that gives performers like Monroe and Lohan (and others) their unique attraction. We sense that the actress is not performing, that we are watching life itself. We call them “troubled,” “tormented,” “train wrecks”—but we can’t turn away. We can’t stop watching. They get under our skin in a way that controlled performers can’t.

I think Lohan has more natural acting talent than Monroe did, but, like Monroe, her weakness is her inability to fake it. She feels she must be experiencing an emotion in order to play it. This leads to all sorts of emotional turmoil, not to mention on-set delays and melodrama. It also leads, when the gods smile, to movie magic. Monroe had the same affliction. They live large, both in life and on screen. This is an essential part of what draws viewers to them.

Lohan has outgrown her adolescent roles. All those cute all-American girls with the all-American names (Hallie Parker, Annie James, Anna Coleman, Cady Heron, Maggie Peyton), they’re gone. And in their place is another all-American type, the tough-talking, cigarette-smoking, streetwise girl, the blowsy blonde—Gena Rowlands, Ann-Margret, Shelley Winters, Angie Dickinson. Yet shining from within remains the little girl from the Disney films—a sweetness that makes the hard shell vibrate. Just like Marilyn.

[From Film Comment]

I’m sorry, I had to cut it off there. It’s offensive enough to see the Cracken lovingly compared to Marilyn Monroe, but to then extend it and sort of compare her to Gena Rowlands? Jesus. He must have been smoking crack WITH Lindsay.

Schrader goes on to say that Marilyn and Lindsay are different because of their surroundings and because of the changes in the industry. Schrader points out that Marilyn earned her status as an actress through hard work, and she maintained her status because of the studio system which protected her. Lindsay, on the other hand, lives in a world where she was given everything when she was just a teenager, and she learned how to make a living without having to “act”. And Lindsay doesn’t have anyone “protecting” her. While I agree with the basic point, that the nature of celebrity is different today and it would difficult for someone like Marilyn to thrive as an actress, I think using Lindsay as an example is a God-awful way to make that point.

Schrader then claims that it was a “treat” to work with Lindsay because she has “charisma” and a director “can’t shoot around lack of charisma.” I disagree with the word “charisma”. She’s watchable, yes. She IS. But it’s the watchable quality of a terrible car accident. And it’s been like that for years now.

Photos courtesy of Terry Richardson, WENN.

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  1. mkyarwood says:

    And for similar reasons, but MM had talent and LL is just a lesser wannabe.

  2. ClaireB says:

    Such an insult to the greatness that was Marilyn Monroe to constantly trying to put Lindsay Lohan on the same level.

    • brin says:

      I agree….Marilyn is a legend, Lilo is a cracked out mess.

    • Nicolette says:

      Agree. Marilyn passed away 51 years ago this summer, and is still at an iconic level. I doubt anyone will be talking about LiLo 51 years from now. Sadly the only thing they will likely have in common is an early demise.

  3. Eleonor says:

    So over with the MM comparison.
    I think one of Marilyn main issue was she wanted to be an actress, while Hollywood wanted her to be “the hot blonde chick”.
    Lindsay Lohan is just an addict who once had a career as an actress.

    • greenmonster says:

      ^^THIS!

      I think you’re absolutely right. Marilyn wanted to be better, wanted to act, wanted to be more than just the blond bombshell… It migt have been difficult to work with her (someone once said, that it was horrible to shoot with her in “Some like it hot”), but when she got it right, she was on point. She was such a delight to look at, she shines in her movies… Lindsay, well… In my opinion she was never good. She always looks like someone who is trying to act, but can’t pull it off. The only thing mysterious about her is the question “why is she still around?”

    • Shannon says:

      MM had a lot of mental problems and was addicted to prescription pain meds. The book “Secret Life of Marilyn Monroe” is a very interesting read. Not saying she wasn’t a legend and a beauty, but to be compared to her I wouldn’t say is a great thing.

  4. hillbillyinthecorner says:

    Sounds very much like a fish vender standing upon his wagon in the middle of the street shouting out how wonderful and fresh his 4 day old catch of fish are..Trying to ignore the rotten smell that is surrounding his wagon……Lindsay Lohan and her acting career and a lot of rotten fish …same thing……!…..You know whats sad….there are idiots who will still buy his fish……

  5. DanaG says:

    Marilyn could really act and Lindsay was never as good as her even on her best day. Lindsay would love to have the sort of career Marilyn did but won’t. This director is delusional and how did this film get to go to Venice?

  6. Izzy says:

    So The Cracken is a hot mess. In other news, the sky is blue, water is wet and snow is cold.

  7. marie says:

    so because the comparison to Liz didn’t stick now we’re subjected to a Marilyn comparison? Huge difference, Marilyn was talented. The only thing Lindsay appears to be good at is using her nose for a straw.

  8. Mabs says:

    …that thing you can’t take your eyes off of, that magic, that mystery…

    Can I barf now? There is absolutely nothing magical or mysterious about that traveling circus act.

    I’m hoping for some rain today, (like how quick we can change subjects?).

    • Gea says:

      I will never forget sweet girl who was helping me to put clothing back on the hangers and chats we had….her cute sunny face. Her mother voice in the backround almost screaming her name, oh Dina was sooo arrogant towards me since we met.I worked on the movie set as a wordrobe stylist, crew and all actors were all annoyed buy her demanding ways, drama sarounded her at all time.We could all sense a lot of dysfunctions in petite Lindsay life, we all felt bad for her. It takes a lot to find a right way in life after having parent/s like that. I personally now that, still trying to find place of belonging. I just hope that she will turn her life around….and find great new begining.

    • wonderwoman21 says:

      Lindsay Lohan was never talented in anything I ever saw her in; her role in Mean Girls was her only likeable role EVER. She has zero watchability and was awful in all the movies I saw her in: Georgia Rules, Herbie, and I Know Who Killed Me. Her prescence and acting were awful.

      I’m hoping and waiting for rain as well.

  9. JL says:

    Are they still promoting Canyons? Yes, well get a clue and stop the “charisma”, “Marilyn” and great actress shit and go hit the reason that anyone will watch this movie….

    To see the train-wreck that is Lilo and see how horrible she is in it.

    That’s the only reason anyone pays attention to her anymore.

    She’s like an accident on the way to work, you slow down to see the mess momentarily then move on to get on with real life.

  10. Katie says:

    I am so sick and tired of people’s reverence for Marilyn Monroe. She was an alcoholic, pill-popping tramp who “committed suicide”. I’d rather Lindsay try and emulate Marilyn than tarnish the name of an actress with more class.

    • JL says:

      1) Total agreement on the Marilyn worship.

      2) Lilo at this point really can’t be compared to much of anything other than a drugged up, drunk, suicidal, whore sleeping with married men now can she?

      God knows she herself shut down the Elizabeth Taylor analogy.

    • Shannon says:

      So true. All of this. People put Marilyn on such an undeserving pedestal. The woman was a f*cking MESS.

      • B says:

        While I do have a soft spot for MM, I agree with all of you. The ongoing reverence for Marilyn is ridiculous.

        And she *was* in fact a mess-unprofessional, a drug (pill) addict and a complete tramp. She was well-acquainted with the casting couch and would sleep with anyone who would further her career. In his autobiography, Brando talked about finding her alone a party, as no one one wanted to have anything to do with her. No one respected her. As for being a “great actress”…while she aspired to transcend the breathless ditsy blonde roles, I don’t think she had the ability. If she had managed to secure the Shakespearean roles she so desired, I think the end result would have been laughable. That’s *if* she could lay off the pills long enough to actually learn her lines and show up for shooting.

      • Shannon says:

        She was definitely a ho. She slept with both JFK and his brother Bobby. Both married at the time. And she was a sad case. Addicted to pills and booze. Not to mention her mental instability she inherited from her mother. She was never taken seriously as an actress. Lets he real. She was a sex pot and that was it. I agree Lindsay is like her in many ways although Marilyn was far sexier then Lilo.

      • lisa says:

        everytime an actress or singer says their idol is MM, they have a touch of the crazy

    • choppersann 13 says:

      agreed on the MM comments… I’ve never seen whatever it was people saw in her… drugs/ booze, adultery, suicide… I’ve yet to be mesmerized by any role I’ve seen her in

      I do think LL mimics her… in many ways

  11. Cool Phosphorescent Shimmer says:

    He was struck by the similarities? I bet he was also struck by flying “water” bottles, lit cigarettes she flung at his head, and her car.

    “She feels she must be experiencing an emotion in order to play it.” Translation: she can’t act.

  12. poiup says:

    Paul Schrader has never been a hack if u look at his resume/imdb page. What’s always been the most puzzling about this is how he managed to get so down on his luck and seemingly forgotten and why he’d get involved with such a cast.

    He has either written or written and directed a certain type of movie very well – Taxi Driver, American Gigolo, Cat People, Raging Bull, The Mosquito Coast.

    • MJ says:

      I was just going to mention this. Disagreeing with his ridiculous statements is one thing, but to call him a hack is ridiculous. The man wrote several of the most iconic American films of all time.

      • ya says:

        Ya I was going to post the same thing….. and while I’m no LL fan, I also don’t think she was just handed everything as a child – child stars do work very hard, and she was no exception – she was working from a very young age.

        I agree with the posts about the amount of undeserved adulation classic stars recieve in comparison to celebs today. Both Monroe and Elizabeth Taylor were addicts and were both protected and enabled by the studio system. I actually think the Elizabeth Taylor comparison with LL is very apt – both were charismatic child stars with addictions issues.

  13. anomie says:

    Sometimes I drink, take drugs, get depressed and read Dostoyevsky, but it does not make me Marilyn

    • JL says:

      Marilyn could read at that level? Why am I thinking she was just a backwoods, uneducated bleached blonde version of Norma Jean….

      • Apsutter says:

        Marilyn was actually incredibly well read and quite smart. She played to the dumb blonde because no one believed her to be anything but dumb.

  14. grabbyhands says:

    Well, I don’t know what the rest of the movie is like, but the trailer looked the final project of a drama student in high school. In the seconds that it lasts, I’d almost swear that James Deen delivered his line better and had more screen presence.

    And I swear, If I see her do the finger(s)in the moth pose ever again, I will claw my own eyes out.

  15. some bitch says:

    The first picture says everything re: Lindsay and the Marilyn comparisons.

  16. Scarlettmoon says:

    Wait a minute, I thought she was the reincarnation of Elizabeth Taylor??? Lol

  17. Bess says:

    I just hope this movie isn’t successful in any way. If it totally bombs and Lohan’s performance is ripped apart, maybe directors will stop using her for stunt casting.

  18. Happy21 says:

    Yes, yes he must have been sharing a crack pipe with LL because he is delusional!

    I think he is saying all of this kind stuff so that people really wonder and watch his shitty movie. Yuck. No effing way am I contributing to anything that may end up putting money in that crack whore’s bra! (or I guess g-string since she doesn’t wear bras as her boobs clearly confirm)

  19. Theresa says:

    I had the misfortune of watching Labor Pains. It was an experiment, to see what had become of Lindsay the actress. This movie had her before the lip injections, before the bloat, so she looked her relatively normal self. But I was seeing it on Netflix, so her well-documented tabloid downfall was well under way.

    It was so awful. In so many ways, that I was rather awestruck. Oy, the acting was so atrocious, so painful to watch, yet I felt this was truly Lindsay, The “actress”, attempting to carry a movie. And she is not good. Not even close to good. She was pretty well doing what she has done since she got on screen; a clippy, smart-alecky form of play acting, no maturity, no authenticity, volume is how she demonstrates emotion, simply awful.

    From that movie forward, I now know the truth about Lindsay. Even if she had remained sober, she would have had no career as an adult. She is simply not a good actress. There are many examples of actors that were able to put in pretty stellar performances even though they were off their gourds on drugs, or stricken with mental health issues; Robert Downey Jr., Nick Stahl, Anne Heche, Carrie Fisher, Drew Barrymore to name a few. Hollywood is great at enabling you, if you can turn it on when the cameras are rolling. One can get sober enough to nail an audition.

    This is not Lindsay’s situation. And to continually lament her as a great actress only one successful rehab away is to set her up for further downfall. She cannot act, she does not have the gift or talent for acting, and no amount of rehabbing or redemption is going to change that fact.

    There are no oscar acceptance speeches in Lindsay’s future. There are no accolades or awards a fingertips breadth away. She’ll be lucky to get and stay sober, and to meet up with a good college guidance counselor. For Lindsay the actress is long gone, if she was ever truly here.

    • d says:

      Just read your comment and I think you’re spot on with your assessment of her abilities more than I am…I harboured the hope that if she worked on it, she could develop into a serious actress, but …I dunno, I think you’re right actually.

    • JennJ says:

      I wish that Lindsay Lohan could read your words and do some serious thinking about the meaning of her life. That is such a good point about meeting up with a college guidance counsellor. She is only 27, has charisma and seems fairly bright — there is a whole world full of meaningful things that she could do that have nothing to do with the entertainment industry that is so toxic for her. With a good education she could have an entirely different, substantive and happy life.
      Of course, I have not idea if she has it in her, and I do wish that for so many troubled actors, but wouldn’t it be great if she did.

    • Bridget says:

      There’s this myth out there that underneath the attitude, the entitlement, the drugs, and the general assholery, that Lilo has talent. She’s a child actress, and what was cute and precocious in a 12 year old is wooden and forced (and overacted) in an adult. All of her adult roles (even in Mean Girls, which was supposedly the pinnacle of her career) she is Not Good. She could get clean and sober, but it’s still not going to make her a good actress.

      • Kate says:

        I agree 100%. She’s just not good. When she was little (in Parent Trap), she had talent, but being good as a kid doesn’t translate to being good as an adult. And she was so wooden in Mean Girls. I can’t believe it when people act like she was Daniel Day-Lewis once upon a time.

    • the original bellaluna says:

      I think you’re right, and your observations astute.

      Had she not gone down the path she chose, she could have furthered her acting skills by taking classes and such, and she would likely be in a much different place right now.

      (I had the misfortune of happening upon I Know Who Killed Me one hot, lazy weekend, when I came across it. I made an attempt at watching it, but, like Liz & Dick, had to change the channel in under 15 minutes.)

  20. d says:

    The statement about how Lindsey got everything early in life and then went on with her life as she did is really true, imo. It makes sense. She WAS really good as a young actress (Parent Trap days) but because she was using the techniques he described. But because she was terribly, terribly managed by her mother, Lindsey never continued developing her acting skills or professional skills or probably any other skills. She’s the epitome of the person who stops developing when they become famous. It’s also sad because she started out well and had potential, but now it seems like she’ll never turn it around. Years of mismanagement, poor development, personal growth and training, too much self-indulgence, and so on….it’s going to take a lot more than 3 months in rehab. And who’s she going straight back to when she gets out? Her mother. I’m sorry, but Lindsey is doomed. She will never get better unless she cuts off her parents entirely and starts over in a normal boring environment, far from Hollywood. If she wants to be a real actress, she’s going to have to learn about life. Right now, she can only play histrionic because that’s all she knows. Lindsey’s a mess, but I think her mother and her dad are worse by far. Because they’ve inflicted misery on their own daughter to achieve their own ends. Lindsey’s range and depth as an actress right now is severely limited…I just don’t see her doing what it would take to develop. It’s sad, really.

  21. Bread and Circuses says:

    This movie would have died and been forgotten about so long ago if Lindsay Lohan hadn’t been stunt-casted in it.

    So maybe it was worth it. The movie is dead, but they can keep its corpse twitching in the media by talking about Cracken-antics.

  22. Apsutter says:

    Love how they try and talk Lindsay up like she has some great talent that’s just hidden by her being a c*nt. She is NOT Marilyn or Liz or Audrey. She has no ineffable quality that makes her electric to watch. I never find that I “can’t take my eyes off of her.” She’s completely mediocre person who people mistake as being a hidden talent.

  23. Idreaminprincess says:

    Actually, I totally understand what he is saying and it makes sense. Could Marilyn have survived in this day and age? I think she would have died faster and in real time, play by play of her spiral downwards.

  24. taxi says:

    Marilyn would have been much better off in today’s movie world. She was contractually bound to 20th C Fox who wanted her dumb & sexy, would not release or lend her to other studios, & paid her far less than other actresses were paid. She was much more intelligent & better read than most people know. She was a savvy businesswoman as well as a prolific memoirist & poet. She was kind, loyal to friends, financially generous, deeply insecure, emotionally needy and susceptible to long bouts of depression. Her backstory is a sad one, as was much of her life, but Marilyn & Lindsay shouldn’t ever be compared.