This is a catchall post for residual Jennifer Lawrence stories for the week. Yes JLaw is a bit overexposed right now, but Lionsgate would have it no other way for their leading lady. In that spirit, here’s some photos of Jen yesterday making final NYC publicity rounds for Catching Fire. She stopped by GMA and was wearing an excellent Burberry Prorsum coat with the slightest of peplums. Once she hit the GMA soundstage, JLaw revealed a very breezy Thakoon white silk shirt and white-and-grey striped skirt. She told Robin Roberts that she nearly turned down the Katniss role. There might have been another starlet annoying you right now in place of JLaw! Here’s some excerpts (with one that alludes to Jen’s criticism of The Fashion Police calling people fat), and I will discuss after the clip:
Why she talks about body image: “It’s kind of become funny to make fun of each other, and I also don’t like other women slaughtering women. And all of us are just being so mean. We’re so responsible for this younger generation, and media, it’s what kids are watching. It’s teaching people how to talk to each other and relate to each other. I don’t like it. Why can’t we just be nice? It’s like we grow up and then get right back into high school.”
She was terrified of her LA premire look: “I think any time a girl has to show her thighs it’s never going to be her favorite look. I loved it, I loved the dress — if someone else wore it. It’s hard for any woman to look at a picture of herself and [like it].”
[From GMA]
Jennifer makes a good point about being girl-on-girl hate. Notice that she’s not erroneously espousing the definition of feminism like Selena Gomez, Courtney Stodden, or Miley Cyrus have done. She’s not saying women all have to support every other woman no matter what. JLaw is merely saying we need to stop tearing each other down for sport.
Which brings me to my point. In response to yesterday’s post about Jennifer’s Letterman speech about sh-tting her pants, I’m puzzled at how some of you commented that JLaw must get her roles by getting on her knees for Harvey Weinstein. Seriously. Harvey is slimy, but do we have to imply that women can only be successful if they’re sleeping their way to the top? What’s even grosser that these comments are coming from people who called me sexist for admitting I’m tired of seeing a naked Miley Cyrus. Yes, I read you.
All seriousness aside, I have to wonder what Dior thought about JLaw’s little pooping story. They had to know what they were getting into with Little Miss Fart Jokes. She’s never made a secret of her love of bodily functions. I think that might be the reason why I adore JLaw so much. We both shamelessly love fart jokes. My poor daughter is just mortified at her own mother’s immaturity when one of our dogs fart. Instant hilarity! There’s so much to frown about in life, so what’s wrong with lightening the mood with fart jokes? Honest question.
Anyway, the poop story was only part of the full Letterman interview (which is very endearing if you have to patience to watch 20 minutes of Dave and Jlaw bouncing off each other). At one point during the discussion, Jennifer insisted, “for every person who likes me, there are a lot of people who don’t.” That’s not the first time she’s acknowledged the hate.
A few more loose ends with bullet points:
* Liam Hemsworth talked to E! Online and said when it comes to being sexy, “I’d say just do what Jen does.” When asked about JLaw’s recent comments about Miley (“Sex sells, and for some disgusting reason young sex sells even more.“), Liam responded, “I agree with her. I would say exactly that.”
* This week’s issue of Star says Jennifer is tired of worrying about who doesn’t like her: “Jen’s not at all concerned that Miley, Kelly [Osbourne] and Joan [Rivers] are offended by things she’s said. They aren’t the kind of people she’s trying to earn respect from.”
* American Hustle is coming. Here’s a really cute clip of Jennifer blowing up a toaster oven and getting in Christian Bale’s face in the aftermath. The language is NSFW:
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & WENN
Just wanted to say her hair looks super cute here and I love/want/need that coat!
seriously, that coat is fabulous!
She does look fabulous. And yes. I want that coat too!
I so love that coat. I wish I looked good in camel. I think it’s so elegant, but unfortunately I looked jaundiced when I wear it. She looks great.
Yup. Came here to say the exact same thing. WANT THAT COAT!
she looks great and I’m in the Team Coat club too
me too! And she looks amazing in it!
Geez, someone has to ID that coat because I need it in my life.
And her hair looks great here. I go back and forth on it.
OMG. That coat made me swoon.
Seriously, owning a Burberry coat of some kind is on my bucket list. Call me shallow, but damn. …they are beautiful and classic.
Swooning is the perfect word for how that coat makes me feel! Wow, it beautiful!
I normally loathe Burberry’s stuff but yeah, I would kill for that coat. Nothing beats a classic camel coat.
I can’t help but laugh… I read through the story, then saw the coat in one of the last pictures & thought “Whoa, that is a gorgeous coat. SO want,” which I intended to comment about… only to find that tons of people already beat me to it. xD Great minds (& taste), ladies >=)
I love her! She is funny and cute and a very good actress. Can’t wait for American Hustle.
she’s genuine and smart
Smart, but very unpolished. She should rethink of her comment about not going back to school ever.
well, no one s perfect)
I love her too. I don’t get the backlash she gets. Sure, she’s controversial and up in our faces because of the promotion tour, but some people just criticize crazy things about her.
I too am a lover of good fart jokes, my brother is the king of them. *shrugs* that part of her doesn’t really bother me. I don’t really disagree with anything that she says here. I can see why folks don’t like her but for me, I do. Different strokes for different folks.
I really want that coat!
P.S. I want that awesome coat!
I so agree. I need that coat in my life! At first, I thought, “Oh, that’s a cute, flattering coat. Looks very tailored.” And then I clicked on the rest of the photos and realized that it has a peplum! I unashamedly, without apologies LOVE peplums. Some people can wear them. (I don’t know if I’m one of those people, to be honest, but I wear them, anyway. I would wear bangs, too, if I could, but I have a terrible cowlick right on the front of my head that makes them impossible. Bangs and peplums forever!!!!)
I love her.
I have seen another comment from you here and am dying to know what your name is short for. I grew up never knowing anyone with the same name as me!! Also, how is it pronounced? Usually when I meet another “evie” they pronounce it with a short “e” but mine is long “e”.
Sorry for the off-track comment, just had to ask!!
I know it’s not directed at me, but I grew up with a girl whose nickname was Evie (ee-vee). I think her name was Evelyn. All the kids (and even adults) just called her Evie, like she asked
cloud&feather, my proper name is Evelynn! Most of the other “evie”s I know are short for Evangeline or Yvonne and have the short “e” pronunciation. Thank you for your response! 🙂
She’s so neat.
Good gawd, this hair ages her so much here – it’s hard to believe we’re the same age.
And is it just me or is Hemsworth-lite into Jen? That comment about how she does sexy right and there was another interview where he recently said that being around Jen has made him live in the moment more. I might be reaching but you never know..
I kinda thought the same thing. But then I thought maybe they’re just good and supportive friends/co-workers who’ve got each other’s backs.
She’s so right about this. Women are women’s worse enemy. Women hold back other women. Women are catty and gossipy and cruel to one another. There was an article in the New York Times recently about a study that found that women are intensely competitive and are aggressively critical of more attractive women who make them feel insecure or inferior. I think that explains a lot of online bullying, and as a woman I’m sure I’ve been guilty of it myself. I hate it, and so I’m personally going to try to be more aware of it in my own behavior. For that reason, I’ll refrain from griping yet again about her haircut …
@kate…I 100% agree with you. Women don’t have to support other women in everything. But, it is frustrating when women go out of their way to trash a woman for something they constantly give a man a pass for. The same ppl clutching their pearls at a naked MC or any other females who show tits & ass are the very ones swooning over John Hamm when he steps out in no underwear for the sole purpose if showing off his penis. Nobody has endless, mind numbing debates when a man is posing in his boxers/briefs with his shirt off. Women need to seriously give it a rest already.
“The same ppl clutching their pearls at a naked MC or any other females who show tits & ass are the very ones swooning over John Hamm when he steps out in no underwear for the sole purpose if showing off his penis. Nobody has endless, mind numbing debates when a man is posing in his boxers/briefs with his shirt off.
AMEN!!! There is definitely a double standard among the commenters on this site when it comes to male-skin-baring v.s. Female skin-bearing. When the guys want to go topless, nude, or in their underwear, or take on some sexual role on film, it’s “O.M.G. he is like so effin’ HAWT! He can Channing on my Tatum any time!” But when it’s Miley Cyrus or Rihanna or some other female the other women here are like, “Ew. What an exploited little whore and bad role model with no self-respect.” Why does sexuality not make males exploited little whores who are bad role models with no self-respect? We actually had a post a few months ago where a whole bunch of Nice Girls ™ were defending calling women sluts and whores, and two weeks ago we had a whole bunch of ‘feminists’ erroneously claiming that no woman who dresses immodestly or embraces overt sexuality can be a feminist.
If people are anti-nudity and pro-modesty, that’s fine. But you have to stick to it. You can’t say it’s ok for some celebrities to do nudity but not ok for others to do it based on gender or whether or not you like them.
Agree. Women are just flat out bitches to each other, and many really seem to enjoy striking at another woman’s heart. If we have an argument with each other, a lot of times forgiveness doesn’t come easily and often the friendship is ended. But men are different. I’ve seen it time and time again where they may be arguing, cursing and sometimes close to brawling and in the blink of an eye they are okay again. There’s a camaraderie among them that doesn’t seem to exist with us. With women it seems like more of a competition on many levels.
Men are often horrible to other men. They beat, rob and kill other men on a much higher rate than women commit violence to other women.
Saying women are nasty to other women and acting like everything is all lovey dovey and civil in men’s world is even more harmful than women being catty to each other. You are doing exactly what you say you despise.
I am guilty of this behavior which was why I decided to stop commenting on Kim, Kristen and Miley posts. I didn’t want to add to the negativity, especially when I have made plenty of mistakes in my life. I’ve just been lucky enough that no one was interested in reading about my mistakes.
By no means does this mean I’m a fan of any of the above but I also don’t want to contribute to the hypercritical atmosphere when I have nothing too positive to say.
ITA, like I said yesterday, how are men supposed to respect us when we don’t respect each other? You know, being positive doesn’t mean you are ignorant to all the negative aspects of people and life, you’re just not blinded by them in ignorance. The world is full of many different personalities and there will be Mileys and Kims, so accept that they’re different than you (or maybe not so much) and respect their accomplishments, if you feel sorry for them, good for you, what does that matter? I feel sorry for Leann sometimes, but when we compare our lives, she’d probably feel sorry for me too. This hate is dragging us down, and I or one refuse to participate.
@LB: At least you learned from it. You deserve applause for that (if only I could think of an emoticon that symbolizes that!) 😀
But that’s part of the reason why I avoid Kim K posts most of the time too, even though I’m sometimes tempted to discuss whatever ridiculous thing she and her people are up to. On the one hand I dislike that group, but I’m against body-shaming and slut-shaming no matter who we’re talking about, so I try to stay away from Kim K posts because I don’t like feeling compelled to defend this annoying, fame-leech person who I don’t even like and who nobody else likes either. I know that’s cowardly, but I already talk about these subjects enough. Sometimes I dread even seeing that there are posts about her because I just know all the awful, problematic stuff that will be there.
Kcaia, we still respect men, despite all the wars, gang violence and beat downs they start with each other.
Let’s not sweep that under the table as we nag on women for not liking each other’s dresses
@Veggie: Except it’s not just women “not liking each other’s dresses.” It’s women perpetuating bigotry against their own sex.
@Leila.
Some women (but by no means all) hurt each other badly with their cattiness, yes. But it is ridiculous to sweep under the table all the horrible stuff that men do to each other and act like we’re so much worse. That is a form of bigotry to our own sex if ever I saw one.
There may be a evolutionary reason that make women behave that way, Huffpo was reporting on a study on this subject recently
“The rumor spreading, shunning and backstabbing of “mean girls” may be a relatively accurate picture of women’s social interactions, one researcher says.
Though both men and women use such indirect aggression in relationships, women use backbiting to demoralize competition and take sexual rivals out of the picture, one researcher argues in a review article detailed today (Oct. 27) in the journal Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society B….”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/28/women-evolved-indirect-aggression-compete_n_4169651.html
Jezebel has a minor take down of this “research”. The author even admitted that “There is virtually no sex difference in indirect aggression. By the time you get to adulthood, particularly in work situations, men use this too.” And a fellow psychologist points out that “No empirical data are ever presented that are relevant to the central claim.”
http://jezebel.com/scientific-review-says-women-have-evolved-to-be-mean-gi-1453563492
Personally I think the hypothesis is bull. But then I think the vast majority of evolutionary psychology is bull! Plus there is plenty of feminist discourse out there that highlights the social conditioning and purpose of passive aggression amongst women and how it is a product of patriarchal social structures, not innate to “female psychology”.
+1, Gretchen
I’m defo of the belief that evolutionary psychology can be used so easily to perpetuate what are simply deeply-held mythologies about gender. Funny how often these findings point towards maintaining patriarchal social structures.
Like the whole “Women like pink because of berries” stuff, despite the fact that in the Victorian era, pink was a male colour (and blue was a female colour).
Also, consider what else we as human beings are genitically prescribed to do, but don’t, because of social conditioning. And as someone (I forget who) said, genetics loads the gun but lifestyle pulls the trigger.
I was watching Real Housewives of Beverly Hills the other day. A table full of rich, attractive, and even successful women sat around subtly, and not so subtly, tearing each other to pieces. Then the nastiest one of all says – You know women could rule the world if we would build each other up instead of tearing each other down. They all sat there nodding their heads – with absolutely no irony. It’s easy to speak this mantra, but a lot harder to live it.
I’m not sure I want to use the Real Housewives as a baseline for how women behave in general. I think you get what you expect to get. I have lots of wonderful female friends and I don’t find them to be backbiting at all. In fact, they are quite the opposite. Women who are gossipy or backbiting I simply distance myself from. I have also watched men have ridiculous pissing contests over the silliest of things and get very bitchy. It really is a matter of perspective more than anything.
Well said, Lucinda.
I totally agree. Women often help out other women. Men often harm (even physically, but also passive-aggresively) other men. Yet somehow women get the reputation for being the nasty sex.
But if we’re gonna act as if stereotypes are true, I’d like to say this:
I’d rather get laughed at behind my back for wearing last season’s dress, than shot because I enter a gang’s territory without permission.
Yeah, reality TV isn’t the best example because it’s heavily edited. However, it’s interesting to note exactly how these shows are edited – which is to perpetuate the idea that women are generally always vile to each other and that’s the only way we can be. That’s not to say that we’re not (we are), but in a show like Real Housewifes, it’s edited to heavily emphasis that.
That coat is the business and that is all.
I want that coat. I think her hairs better now that it’s kind of ‘settled in’.
And I agree with what she said.
Except skinny women in her case or women who exercise or women who eat right. Those are the women who deserve mean comments against those dirty scarecrow looking females.
It’s always confused me though why women feel the need to rip each other apart for silly reasons.
People rip people apart ‘for silly reasons. It’s not just women. Men do it to. It’s life.
Not to the degree that women do it
@Mark congratulations on knowing every man and woman on the planet 🙂
I have to agree with mark, though I wish I didn’t, that in general women are worse than men. That definitely doesn’t mean all women and there are PLENTY of hateful, spiteful men, but they still tend not to revel in bitterness towards each other to the degree many women do, and the ones that do are usually the ones considered to have more feminine qualities. So tear me apart if you want, that’s my opinion and experience, so whatever
I wanted to add on to my comment but it wouldn’t let me, but what sucks about it is, women can carry a bond and connect with each other, even as strangers, in a way men are just beginning to accept (men as a whole, ie bromance), and if we were only capable and worthy of each others’ trust, nothing could stop us.
It’s true. Guys definitely contribute to this culture of shallow and sexist bullying too. But I think women and girls have more to lose by reinforcing all of that in how they treat and view each other than guys do.
Elaine Benes sums it up nicely:
“Why do they call it a wedgie?”
“Because the underwear is pulled up from the back until… it wedges in.”
“Boys are sick.”
“What do girls do?”
“We just tease someone until they develop an eating disorder.”
Mark, women don’t kill other women to the degree that men kill other men.
But somehow that hardly gets talked about. While women being catty is brought up constantly, even as proof that women are worse than men.
As long as violence is not being talked out as a problem that is far more predominant with omen, it is silly to talk about a more minor offense (being catty) as being more of problem for women.
Exactly. And she says that because we all know skinny women are not women. Women who exercise are not women. Women who eat healthy are not women. And teenagers who have EDs are not teenagers. *rolls eyes*
We got it you’re skinny and get shit for it, let it go. Damn….
@marie: She said NOTHING of the sort.
People rip each other apart. It’s life. Deal with it. It’s not like we live in some fairytale land. Develop a thin skin and f***king deal with it.
*thick
Bubbles, we don’t have to be rude just because the worldaround us is. Reality is what you make out of it.
Bubbles, it all depends on what kind of society we want to contribute to. Do we want to add to this hateful, mean girl, teen suicide culture or do we want to fight it? Do we want the world to be more sexist and shallow, or less?
Kcaia, I have to say that I like you. I’ve been paying attention to your comments. You’re a very positive person. 🙂
You know, that’s exactly what Jen said it makes her sick last week, people being all like “welcome to the Real World”. That shouldn’t be the “Real World”, but it will continue being so if WE keep it that way. It’s not about living in some fairy-tale land as you put it, but about all of us taking a step back and start changing our attitude.
The world doesn’t have to be an ugly place. It doesn’t have to be a cruel place. Humans make it that way.
I don’t partake in the ugly/fat/slut comments, but I think there is nothing wrong with critiquing clothing and behavior for both genders of public personas. They are putting it out there, the designers want it seen. They can’t expect for everyone to zip it unless they like it. Further, as to some of the behaviors, they happen in public purview, are instigated by PR teams, or play out on TV (as in the reality genre). If you give interviews on opinions on topics outside of acting, then people will chime in, either agreeing or disagreeing.
@Kiddo: I agree that there’s nothing wrong with critiquing clothing and public figures. Those critiques just shouldn’t stray into bigotry or imposing traditional values.
Thanks, Leila! I know you on here too, and I like your name, there’s a lot of clever names here, but I’m one of those people that can never think of a good one
Maybe there would be less of a mean girl problem if America did not have a school system where cheerleaders channel their energy into looking pretty and cheering on boys as they play sports. Not to mention things like proms, where people get humiliated if they don’t have a date. Also, the election of homecoming queens adds even more to a school-culture that aggresively encourages popularity contests and appreciation based on beauty and superficial grace.
No, I’m not an American-hater or anti-sports person, but that stuff just baffles me about the way kids get raised in your country.
I love how she sounds like a thoughtful and mature adult here and not an eleven year old junior high school bully like the women of the Fashion Police. And as for tripping on her own arrogance: The very definition of arrogance is thinking you are so far above everyone else that you should get to say whatever you want and no one should dare talk back to you. I believe that defines Joan Rivers and not Jennifer Lawrence.
First off, I find her so much m ore interesting looking with her pixie cut, love it.
Second , dont take me the wrong way but…..does she have to be “I am woman hear me roar” every interview?
We get it, you’re an empowered woman. Now talk about how your co star eats whiskey in his cereal or something. Maybe Im just crabby this morning but Im kinda tired of the crusade.
If she’s talking about empowerment and “I woman hear me roar” in every interview, it’s probably because that’s what every interviewer asks her about. It self-perpetuates. It seems to have started just because she’s athletic rather than waif-like, the press and blogosphere started making a Thing about it, about this new Strong Woman that she represents; she gets asked about it, she talks about it, so it becomes one of the issues you have to ask Jennifer Lawrence about…For all we know, she’s never once raised the subject herself.
It’s partly because she was lofted those questions by Robin Roberts. And she did actually do a long bit about she and the guys playing some weird finger game that had various rules which usually ended up with one person punching the other.
I don’t understand how can some people seriously claim she’s getting roles by sleeping with Harvey. She was already an Oscar nominee and had two franchises by the time she got the Silver Linings Playbook which is the only movie she’s ever done for Weinstein. THR has ranked her the most in demand young actress alongside Anne Hathaway and she came third in the most recent Vulture top 100 ranking. The recent Hollywood Reporter’s producers’ roundtable had one of the top producers mentioning that Jennifer Lawrence gets pretty much every script in Hollywood. That girl does not have to sleep with gross old men for roles.
While Kristen Stewart had an affair with her director and it was wrong considering they were both in a relationship, she didn’t do it for the role either since she was the famous and more powerful one.
As a female it’s pretty frustrating how often in real life too you hear comments in the business world on how a successful woman must have slept her way to the top or that they got promoted due to some affirmative action to be the token woman on board. It’s like some people refuse to give any credit for women to being successful due to jealousy from other women or since it’s a some kind of threat to men and their ideas of male superiority.
My kids and I went to see Catching Fire last night, and there is no question in my mind that Lawrence gets work because of her talent. She was amazing, and only getting better as an actress as she goes along.
Plus, everyone who works with her just genuinely seems to LIKE her. That goes a long way.
I was glad that this point about Harvey and the bj was raised by Bedhead, and I think it fits in perfectly with what Jennifer was saying. Why are we so mean to each other? You don’t have to support every action every other woman takes, but we could stop tearing each other down in these vile ways that have been used to keep us “in our place” for centuries.
ITA. I was really surprised by all the hate J Law got yesterday. I’m not sure where it came from. I think she is a pretty refreshing change from some of the other actresses around, and I think she is beautiful and so talented!
Yes! This ^^ 100% – funny, talented, intelligent, beautiful, engaging. I really like her!
I liked her before, she annoys me now, but she is funny and talented. When did she show she was intelligent? I don’t mean anything bad, I just can’t remember an interview in which she said something very smart.
Great post. I think she is a very talented actress, it’s pretty gross of people to assume she’s had success for any reason other than that.
I can understand why people are getting a little tired of her but that comment was completely unwarranted, the person who said that just wanted to be as mean as possible.
I think all the hate she got is a perfect representation of exactly what she’s talking about. She is very talented and I love her openness. She is a breath of fresh air and I just appreciate that about her so much.
Totally agree!
Harvey has nothing to do with her getting roles but he does have to do with her getting an Oscar. Period. Nobody can deny that. She is good, sure, but she was not Oscar worthy in SLP.
However, I do believe that the whole industry is pushing her very hard to become a big movie star. The industry is changing a lot. Movie stars are few and getting older fast. People are not interested in names anymore but superheroes/heroines so the actors who play them become famous very fast. This is going to change sooner or later when there are no superheroes left and I believe movie stars will come back full force. But it will be interesting to see if she can maintain this level of fame when her franchise ends.
THG is the franchise of the moment for teens so it’s easier to like her and support her because she’s at her peak. But once the press doesn’t give her this much support, and the industry realizes she doesn’t matter if she’s not Katniss, then she will come back to indies (I assume) and her star power will decline.
I know you don’t like Jennifer for shit and it always amazes me how much thought you’ve put into her as a person and actress. I don’t get it when people in here, because they don’t like a celebrity, start saying stuff about how their careers will decline. Have you been to the future?
@marie Amen
@Dani2 Why is so hard to understand that many people are not crazy about J Law? Is just an opinion, dont take it as a personal insult.
I disagree, Marie. I think you are over estimating the power of the franchise she is in. Because she was Oscar nominated BEFORE the franchise, I don’t think most industry people associate her with it too much, they don’t see it as the core of her skills. She has been Oscar nominated twice, which is a reflection of how she has built a rep as being consistantly strong as an actress. Consistency is key, actors who are hot and cold are considered more risky by directors and producers. She has struck a unique balance of indie/blockbuster cred that means she can fit into most any project.
The Hollywood Reporter had an issue about the A-list, and they said that Jen is THE most sought after actress for ANY role. That isn’t because of her franchise, it is because she has shown she can do well in both big and small projects. I don’t think the industry considers Hunger Games as Jen’s peak…IMO winning an Oscar is a far greater accomplishment.
This statement suprises me, “the industry realizes she doesn’t matter if she’s not Katniss”
She was nominated for two Oscars, both of the roles were not Katniss. Clearly Katniss is not the sole reason for her to “matter”.
@Dani2 I have not insulted her. I don’t put that much thought about her but my comment was a reflexion on the industry’s time. The same applies to every other franchise actor right now.
@Tiffany:) I thought about this but SLP although it made it to $100 M was not a big blockbuster. It was a very well marketed indie movie that somehow made it into the awards circuit and so benefitted from all the free publicity and award frenzy which translated into a longer theatre run.
What I mean with that comment is that the industry has been nominated young actresses for the last decade or so, launching careers and then trying to make them into big stars and see what happen with them. They give them that “push”. She clearly got THG because she had the advantage of being an AA nominated actress by the time the role was being cast. It happens to a lot of actors. It happened to Leo too with Titanic. There is nothing wrong with that but you gotta admit that nobody knew who JLaw was until THG publicity started last year. Not even X-Men brought her that much attention.
The thing with JLaw is that she could be like Julia Roberts or Sandra Bullock in the sense that they are America’s sweethearts and leading ladies but both actresses have iconic roles/movies under her belt in which they did NOT play a book character and it completely relied on their charisma. You can argue that JLaw has beloved characters in Katniss and her SLP role but honestly, SLP is an okay but forgettable movie and THG doesn’t have HP’s following. People were meant to like JLaw because she is Katniss just like people like Emma Watson because she is Hermione.
@Marie I disagree with the majority of your analysis of Jen’s future career and I don’t care enough to go into detail as to why. Tiffany’s analysis is more logical overall (and less assumption-based). And lol don’t act like you’re indifferent to her, you’re always in her posts and you definitely feel that she gets a pass on a lot of things (which is true) and for a number of other reasons, she’s not your cup of tea at all. It’s your opinion though, you’re entitled to it and who knows? Things just may happen that way. However though, just like everything in life, there is no way of knowing what tomorrow will bring. Your dislike for her influences your analysis (I’m not even judging, my liking her means that I think positively of her in general), so yeah, that’s all I’ve got. I’m about to go have dinner so you go ahead and enjoy the rest of your day honey 🙂
Marie,
I am not quite following. There seems to be a bit of circular logic going on. You say that being acclaimed for her acting helped her get Hunger Games, but you also say that no one knew who she was before Hunger Games. I disagree. One of your points cancels out the other. She wouldn’t be acclaimed if no one knew who she was.
I don’t understand how you can suggest that Jlaw’s success is built on playing a character from a book when the roles she has been nominated for, the role that introduced her to America, did not come from a book. Emma Watson has never been nominated for an Oscar. She hasn’t won. She wasn’t known to American audiences before Harry Potter. Jlaw is an indie actor stepping out into a blockbuster, not a blockbuster actress dabbling in indies.
Also,…I don’t think there will be anymore Sandra Bullocks or Julia Roberts in the traditional sense because the rom-com has died. Movies that made Julia’s career aren’t being made as much anymore because women aren’t going to see them. When they are made, they tend to fail. I think the industry sees Jen and her career in a very different light than how you see her. You are totally welcome to your own perspective, I’m not trying to shut you down, but I don’t think her career will have the tragectory that you suggest.
Marie, Maybe you did not see Winter’s Bone (for which she was nominated for an Academy Award? THAT is the movie that but her on the map. In 2010, two years before the Hunger Games franchise.
I felt her award for SLP was the Academy’s way of saying, We are sorry we didn’t give it to you for Winter’s Bone.
I think her work is more widely respected than you think.
Marie, I understand for you that Lawrence isn’t Oscar worthy for SLP, but the reality is the performance was critically acclaimed since the premiere in TIFF. Lawrence detractors forget that the performance was a favorite by many critics -Among them, David Eldenstein, Emmanuel Levy, Lisa Schwarzbaum, Kenneth Turan, Mahnola Dargis and Joe Morgenstern. Part of the creme of the critics-. Did Harvey made campaign in favor of Lawrence? Yes, but denying the critical acclaim is only for the blind people.
Also, along the awards season, Lawrence won the majority of the Best Actress awards -Even including Chastain, Riva and Cotillard- including Los Angeles Film Critics Circle -One of the big awards and part of the trifecta of elite alongside New York and NSFC- being the first American actress winner since 2005 and being the first runner-up of the prestigious National Society of Film Critics (NSFC) losing the award with only 8 votes.
I know latter people will say “Oh, but the critics blah blah blah”.
No one with a modicum of self respect would sleep with a dirty old creep like Harvey for a job. They may have to associate with him for business and kiss his ass in public, like Meryl Streep and many others have, but that doesn’t mean they have to do it in private as well.
@Laura where in my comment did I imply that it’s a personal insult? I think some of the criticisms aimed at Jen are valid and she’s a big girl, I’m sure she’s aware at that not every celebitchy commenter likes her. What I questioned was that logic where just because you don’t like a star, you start saying their time in Hollywood is limited, just cuz you don’t like someone doesn’t mean they’re going away. I don’t like Eminem but he has one of the best selling albums of the year. A lot of people on here don’t like Robert Pattinson and always say his career is a flop yet he has about six or seven movies lined up. That’s what I was referring to – Jen is and was before the hunger games, a well-known actress with potential, so she will obviously continue to gain acclaim after the Hunger Games. The Raven Baxters of celebitchy shouldn’t hold their breath about her fading from the spotlight.
Jennifer Lawrence shut up ! We all can’t be Steford Wifes.
So being a nice person is being a stepford wife?
Unfortunately, it is for some people. There are and always will be people who thrive on the negative.
I don’t understand why anyone would have a problem with JLaw. I just think she is adorable. Also, I need that coat in my life.
This exactly. ^^
Liam is such a snoozefest. say something interesting, dude.
Jennifer is right and i like that she talks about things like that. a woman in her position can only lose and fall down so everyone in that position is very careful. she says some stupid stuff but dont we all? i like that she uses her exposure for something like that.
He IS dull. This is why I need for ppl to stop trying to make him happen. I find it hilarious how ppl stay on this site trying to gas him up just because they hate Miley. He is boring and from the movies I have seen him in, he isn’t very talented.
I can’t believe people are now complaining about what she says here…lol
Girlfriend can’t win, can she? I look at these photos and I’m exhausted for her. It’s one thing to love acting and to be in a major Hollywood flick but I think all that promoting and yakking with reporters and mustering up the energy to act like you’re excited to be there has got to be grueling and dreadful at times.
I would not be able to deal, no matter how much they paid me…smh..
I don’t know, I like her, and I think her hair is perfect! But this tearing down other women because that is what they do thing just reminds me of a few women I now who are all: I don’t have women friends because all they do is gossip and talk mean about each other.
It irks me because I see men tearing down women waaaaaayyy more than women tearing down other women. It just seems a tad hypocritical to accuse women of tearing down each other while tearing down women. Which she is doing by perpetuating the myth that women are each other’s worst enemies.
Whereas in my life experience, women have always been supportive and loving and complimentary. Men, on the other hand, always have something to say about my hair, my weight, what I wear, where I work, what I spend my money on….to infinity. Men are the loudest voices in regards to Jennifer’s new haircut. Not women, most women are supportive of it and her weight and not slaughtering her for it. That’s the men out there who believe that she needs to meet their expectations. Women are mostly cool with each other and don’t “slaughter” each other.
Sure, on this site we may gossip a bit, and I do see extreme cruelty towards certain movie stars, but this is what this site is, a gossip site. Not real life.
Really? I rarely RARELY see men tearing down women the way women do. I work in a male dominated IT office, and I think I’ve heard like one guy rip on a woman whether it was one who worked here, or a woman they knew outside of work. The women in the office tend to be the ones fighting amongst themselves.
Same when I lived in a co-ed dorm where our section was heavily women dominant. It was never the guys complaining about the ladies. I also lived in a section that was 90% men, and the same thing happened there.
And have you read some of the comments on here? It’s mainly women posting, and so many are ripping JLaw apart. Whether it’s about her hair, complaining that she talks about her weight, saying that she’s not talented etc etc. Not just JLaw either – go read some comments on a Kim K post, or a housewives one.
I know it’s not ‘real life’ and just a gossip site, but what makes it okay to be so viscous here? How many of these commenters speak about other women that they DO know in the same kind of manner?
Yes Erinn. You are probably so used to the subtle comments that men make about women that you are now immune to it. You may look as other women in your age range as competition, so you automatically attribute negative stereotypes to them. I work in an office with about an equal ratio to men and women, and there is no cat-fighting between the women period. Your IT co-workers are most likely on reddit redpill and ripping apart women.
90% of the comments on this thread are praising Jennifer Lawrence. Go to a men’s site and peruse comments on Jennifer and 90% of the comments will be how they won’t fuck her because of her haircut or some other reason.
What disturbs me is that a lot of women on this thread are agreeing when in reality, I can almost guarantee that is not the case. My life experience is much different than apparently most womens commenting here.
You are already buying into the crap that women hate each other, when in reality that is just not true.
I’m not buying into it YuYa, it’s what I’m seeing; and have seen since grade school. They guys that I spend time with aren’t like that. I don’t see the women I’m around as competition. I’m actually in a higher position than all of the other women on my team. Most of us get along, but there have been a lot of women driven out of this company by the bullying of other women. It’s a very large office, with more than 300 employees. I personally know a few women who have been in tears at their desk because of this kind of situation.
In another place that I worked, I had a woman purposely bully me because I had casually said I would have to ask the boss about a scheduling conflict. She was not the boss, but had apparently made the schedule, and confronted me in a threatening manner complaining that I dared have an issue with her schedule. I had barely said a word to this woman before, and had never said a single negative thing about her, but she came up to me as if she wanted to attack me. Over a scheduling conflict!
I’m sure SOME of the men are on reddit complaining about women- though most of the ones I work with are not that kind of person, and I have known them for many years. These are good guys; easy going, and a lot of them are happily married and praise their wives up and down.
It’s great that you have had such good experiences with women in your workplace, but that doesn’t seem to be the norm. This is the first JLaw thread in ages that I have seen an overwhelming kindness and agreement towards her.
The worst offenders of tearing down women are other women. Do guys judge women on their “fuckability?” Yes. But women judge other women for pretty much everything else.
Do we live on the same planet here? It’s not men tearing up JL, Natalie, Angelina OR Jen Aniston, etc. etc. etc. They may do it in the media, behind office doors, in their heads, and rude, young boys may scream it on twitter but that is because we allow it and buy it. Because I really don’t think men are even discussing JLaws new haircut in the first place to begin with, but women tear her down for every word that comes out of her mouth, bc they “just don’t like her.” There are millions of excuses why it’s okay not to like people but the proof is in the pudding. These media articles slamming women aren’t marketed to men.
No it isn’t only women. Some of the comments I have seen/heard from men about any woman who dares to show skin or overt sexiness would make you shake your head in disbelief. I always hear comments from men about how ugly JL hair is bc they don’t like short cuts on women. Really? As if every woman should make herself into what men deem attractive. But, I don’t care about what men think about me or any other woman. Especially when their opinion is based on some patriarchal idea that women are only here to look good for them.
But, women are unnecessarily mean, catty and bitchy towards any woman who looks better than them or make them feel less than. If a man came out in public making a comment like the one I stated above about JL hair, they would have a fit. Yet, it is these very women who say Liam had a right to cheat on miley bc she cut her hair. This type of backwards, hypocritical thinking needs to be discussed. Instead of harping on and on about women showing skin, perhaps more time should be spent on talking about this.
I am a very attractive woman and I have never had another woman be a bitch to me because I was better looking than how she perceived herself to be. I also know, that there is always going to be someone more beautiful, more something than me. Doesn’t bother me at all. It just is. That’s the way the world works.
I think a lot of women on this thread just haven’t had enough life experience to know that women are not each other’s worst enemies. It really makes me sad to see so many people agreeing when in reality, in my world, (and I deal with 100’s of women a month within my workplace…all different, from different backgrounds and ethnic backgrounds) this is just not the case. I have maybe one or two completely backstabbing and catty women in my life in the last 20 years.
It just seems so odd to me to discount how men have shaped women’s view of each other.
Thats silly, so men are evil if they don’t like her haircut? Have you never found a man unattractive because of his haircut or his clothes or just because of the way he looks? All of your problems aren’t around because of the patriarchal system you are currently living in. So the women on this post need to stop acting like men get together and make plans on how to keep women fighting, accept some responsibility for your bitching.
Where did I say men are evil? I don’t have any problems Mark.
I have seen your postings in the past and yes, you are part of the problem. But let’s just blame it on wimmens! Because only wimmen can be bitchy!
YuYa, I don’t lack ANY life experience. I am a fully functioning adult professional woman in the medical/mental health field. I’ve seen a lot in my life. Don’t discount someone’s life experience because they have seen something different than you have. I
Yuya: You’re ONE woman. Just because you’ve never been through such situations, doesn’t mean they don’t happen at all. And how do know if any of the women who are nice to your face haven’t snarked you behind your back? That being said, I don’t think what Jen meant that women are the only ones who do that. I’m sure she’s well aware of how awful men can be in that aspect, actually. I think that in this case she just addressed women as a young woman herself. And she’s right. The point is, people shouldn’t tear other people down. Regardless of their gender.
I don’t CARE if they’ve snarked behind my back. I really, truly do not care.
Jennifer clearly stated, all women are mean to each other. It is brushing every woman out there…50% of the world’s population as monsters essentially, men were not included. And men are the ones disparaging her new look more than anything. Even when I was her age, I never would have said something like that. I actually feel bad for her that she isn’t surrounded by supportive females.
Do you not have women friends either? This is astounding to me that we beat each other up so much when in reality, that one bad egg you might have encountered is your benchmark for how women are.
But, if they ARE talking about you behind your back, it’s just furthering this point -whether or not it bothers you or not.
I don’t understand why you assume other posters lack life experience or female friends when their experience differs from yours. I can listen to your testimony and to the testimonies of others with an equal interest. Also, you said you are an attractive woman, and yet men have been making comments about your hair, weight, etc. I’m attractive too (and embarrassed to write this down), and I have never had this experience, men have always been amiable towards me, to the point of silliness sometimes.
I get tired of men and women tearing each other down and making negative personal remarks and assumptions for no good reason, but generally speaking I agree with your comments about men being more guilty of this kind of behaviour, or at least they’re less discrete about it in my experience. But I’m glad this issue is finally being addressed, even if I don’t wholly agree with the women vs. women premise.
This is a gossip site, but the tag line is “escapism can be smart.” But I’ve never found anything particularly smart about some of the negative assumptions heaped on successul young women simply because people think they get too much attention compared to actresses they like more, or because a creep like Weinstein likes them.
It’s simplistic and lazy thinking at best, and one reason why I put a strict limit on the time I spend reading gossip sites, even the ones that strive to be a cut above the dross. I figure reading that kind of stuff day in, day out can’t be good for me.
Even some of comments like “Jennifer would never do that because she is legitimately talented” smack of the implication that the less talented are fair game for these kinds of assumptions and accusations. What about ‘Jennifer seems like a decent person’ as a reason? Why must the worst always be assumed about some attractive, popular young women?
I find it somewhat ironic that one young actress who did have a relationship with a married director (KStew) was never suspected or accused of that kind of behaviour prior. The comments against her were mostly for her perceived bad attitude and surly demeanor. Well surprise, surprise she wasn’t surly with everyone.
I also don’t think Blake Lively, Mira Sorvino, Jennifer, or Gwyneth had anything untoward with Harvey. I think he’s a creep and I think he “fixes” awards but I don’t buy that he sleeps with every blonde in town. Jennifer is a talented girl who is charming and had a good “campaign” to win the Oscar..that was it…
However, I don’t get the need to get in a dig at KStew at the end when you are saying we need to stop making these accusations about women in the first place…kind of hypocritical. The dude was a first time director and had little power; she was (at the time) one of the main stars of a billion dollar grossing franchise with a fair amount power. She gained nothing by hooking up with him, and they were caught after the film premiered and the assumption was they hooked up during the promotions before the premiere. Common sense and the timeline indicates she didn’t bang Rupert Sanders for any favors.
Well, great for you if you don’t care! Seriously. For many people (myself included, and I think the same goes for Jen) it’s hard not to care, and I admire those who don’t let others’s opinions get to them. But it’s still something that happens. And you don’t know what she could have been through that makes her think like that.
Videli: How old re you? I am guessing early to mid 20’s.
If they’re talking about me behind my back, how would I even know about it?
Look, everyone isn’t going to like everyone, ever. It’s just not going to happen, ever. You have to know that no matter how nice, or personable you are to someone, that person can choose not to like you, and there is nothing you can do about it. You could drive yourself insane by thinking about it, or trying to make that random person who doesn’t like you, like you. For their own personal reasons, that probably really have nothing to do with you, they just do not like you.
Just the way it is. It’s happened to me with men more than women. Women and I usually get along really well. A lot of men don’t like my out-spokeness and decide to not like me. Men either love a strong woman or look to reduce her. Women who don’t like other women do the same thing.
No skin off my nose. I am comfortable with myself, and I take criticism well. After all, we are all here on this big blue marble to learn. I love men, just don’t ever want to live with one again within a romantic relationship. Nope.
Yuya: I’m 31. Does knowing my age improve your argument?
Mind you, my experience with women mirrors yours, most women I’ve known have been friendly at best and neutral at worst, I mostly got support from them and only rarely hostility.
Yuya, I have your back girl! In my lifetime I have heard men and women gossip, etc, because, guess what… It’s human nature! Honestly, while small work conflicts will always happen, I’ve been lucky enough to have great interactions with female co workers, and have many great friends that are women. I feel like so much is made of the gender divide when we are simply all just human; men and women are not different species, so I just hate this ” women are tearing each other down thing”. Anyone who has spent enough time with men know that they do it too.
Videli: At 31 men were still falling all over themselves to talk to me. Most attractive women in their youth have the same experience. Once you hit a certain milestone, you may still be beautiful, but you are also invisible. Sure, you have some attention, but the gobs of it are gone. So, one day, you too will get the wise man advice about growing your hair long, losing 10 pounds, wearing high heels and so on and so forth…it’s tiring. And at that point, you just don’t care anymore.
Look at how men are reacting to Pamela Anderson and her pixie cut. Me personally? I think it’s the best she’s looked in a decade. Most men? It’s all about how they don’t want to fuck her anymore…at least without a long haired wig on.
Women are objects in today’s society. And have been for forever. Still chattels. And we look at each other with contempt apparently. I am not jealous of a 21 year old beauty…been there done that. It was annoying more than anything else. I am not really jealous of anyone. I have a great life. A great career, had the wedding, had the divorce and I feel very content in my life.
I was just asking because, as someone older than you, I have lived it and can tell you, it will end. Men will no longer “stupidly” want your attention. And then all of the sudden, you either become the enemy because you now see it, or you just do not exist.
Assuming that those of us that think women are too harsh to each other don’t have a lot of female friends or don’t have enough experience, is just kind of what we’re talking about, women brushing each others opinions off, and I know you don’t mean it that way, but on the next level it becomes harsh critiques of each other, not about style and insight but putting down each others personalities and appearance, and on the next level it’s straight up hate and revenge. And I have many great male and female friends, I love people in general, but we don’t have enough strong female role models because we tear them down at every opportunity and error. And men follow suit. But as women, we have the power to teach and show the following generations of women not to be self conscious, not to feel as if their bodies are the way to attract men, that they are capable of anything and they are special and beautiful and unique, like we tell our own daughters, if we critique each other with such contempt and/or lack of relevance?
Btw, in my experience, and I try to stay away from bad men and women but sometimes at best good people down bad things, men and women can both be judgmental and harsh but women in general, hold on to the anger and resentments and judgements towards each other much longer and act out on it more frequently then men do. I mean, look art what sells, to women vs. men. And it seems to me many people, especially women, tend to get more bitter with age. I know life is hard but it doesn’t improve the situation.
“It just seems a tad hypocritical to accuse women of tearing down each other while tearing down women.”
I think that a lot of your points really make sense. I really dislike it when women say that they have no women friends, but all because of other women. I’m sorry to tell, but no, that’s all because of you. And that’s OK! People are different and like or feel comfortable with different things. But shaming the other people (in this case women) because of our personal taste and personality is completely nonsense.
Yuya: To add to your experience, I work in this moment only with men-coworkers ( it used to have more women than men, but not anymore) and in the beginning I also thought “ok, this might be easier now, since men are usually less complicated”. This is far from the truth. We all have this general idea about men, but actually they can be really bitchy! Add to that sexism and a crude/raw attitude and it’s really not a funny spectacle to watch. So maybe there is a tendency for guys to be less sensitive to a lot of social conventions, what might be helpful in a work environment, but I don’t think they are less bitchy than woman, I think we usually (as a woman) just don’t have access to it (they keep it better to themselves maybe, I’m sure that none of the women they talk about have a slightly idea about what they think). Maybe women will be fast on judging some things and men others, but is the same in the end. I learned this last year that is a lot more personality than gender that dictates how bitchy people decide to be to each others.
I have amazing women and men friends and I really think people are missing a lot if they make a friendship decision based in gender.
I agree with you. However, and maybe it is just my female friends, but I have noticed more men bashing someone they don’t find pleasing than women. I think that women have been judged so much and for so long about how they look, that it ends up that women who have had some life experience either keep it to themselves or don’t judge at all.
My male 40’s coworker, he always has something to say about how someone doesn’t “fit” in in some way. And I do confront him about his asshole observations. He will look at me and say, :They can’t hear me. And I will say: It doesn’t matter that they can or cannot hear you, that you are even verbalizing it is a problem for me. I do not want to hear it.
I just get so so aggravated by it. Who here hasn’t been at one time in their life a victim of some tool be it male or female loudly talking about you? I have. I am sure most people have. It’s something I am sure everyone has in common. But yet, all women are bad. Time to stop woman bashing. It’s not only women, but men as well. The bashing might seem different, but it is the same.
I agree with you, YuYa.
Men often feel far more entitled to question our choices than we feel entitled to question theirs. Sometimes they do not even notice it themselves how nasty they are, because many of them are utterly convinced that their opinion matters more than ours.
I’ve seen several of her interviews this week (Letterman, Daily Show, etc). and I’ve enjoyed them all. She’s funny, quick witted, engaged, a little loopy and not above any of it.
There are so many times I watch other actors/celebrities (many times of lesser talent) who just seem reluctant, put off and too up their own asses in interviews.
She’s right. That’s why I have no women friends. I have my man and my therapist and that’s about the extent of my support system. She’s beautiful, genuine, and looks amazing in that coat. .
Wow, you think that an entire gender isn’t worth getting to know. You might be part of the problem.
I agree, it’s definitely true that women can be excessively bitchy towards each other but to say that ALL women are that way is just not true. I think that the people who say stuff like that need to expand their social circle a little more, I’ve got some amazing female friends that don’t tear each other down and why be friends with ONLY men? Women have a lot to offer in the way of camaraderie and really intimate relationships where you really get each other. You’re missing out honey.
Examples on how i’m adding to the high rates of bitchy women? I’ve never called anybody ugly, fat or slutty on this site? If the stuff i write is bad then so are most of the people on this site.
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Mark, let it go. You have.
Boy are you missing out a wonderful part of life. I don’t know what I’d do without my galpals, some I’ve known for almost 50 years. Men have come and gone in our lives but we’ve always been there for each other. Bless them all!
I love and adore my female friends. I also love and adore my male friends.
What I took her to mean was that women get torn down enough without having to do it to on another as well.
I think all people have the potential to be kind or awful. Gender doesn’t chose your persona for you, we chose for ourselves.
I have had some really incredible friendships with both women and men, and honestly…my heart aches at the thought of you missing out on that. True kindred spirits are hard to find, but they are worth the search. Keep looking, Blackrose. I have an amazing friendship with my sister, and I think that informed my approach to my friendships with women. To have a friend, be a friend.
“I’m different from other women”
Yeah, but the amount of women saying this is rather high. So they are actually the same as a rather large group of women.
Befriending each other might be a good idea. But only if they genuinely believe what they say and not just say this because they think it helps them score points with men.
She is (and looks) awesome. And those who accused her of sleeping with her directors need to get over the fact that she has actual talent and STFU.
I KNOW I will get flamed for this comment, but I’m going to put it out there and say it anyway: I am not thin AT ALL, but I used to be. I got all kinds of catty, snide comments from overweight girls. I learned to stay away from them. Even now, if a woman is really large, that is a red flag to me. Especially if she’s been obese her whole life, because there are a host of psychological issues that go along with that. Your body size is your own business, but when I see resentment, jealousy, spitefulness……..I want nothing to do with you anymore. What people need to understand, is that thin women don’t necessarily have easy lives or get all the men.
So…..its a beautiful, crisp fall day and I’m going to enjoy the nice weather in the park with my daughter. I won’t be coming back here to read the flames. Happy holidays everyone!
I’ve been overweight from the age of 10 to the age of 20. My best friend is the skinniest person I know. We looked like Stanlio and Olio, lol. But we never teared eachother apart for it. And in my experience, overweight people tend to be very kind when it comes to other people’s looks, because they know how it feels to be uncomfortable in your own skin. However, there were times when I was completely shocked that my friend got offended when someone told her she was skinny, because, being fat, I couldn’t understand how that was offensive.
+1 For the most part, I’ve found people who have faced discrimination themselves to be more sensitive to the plights of others. There will always be those who (consciously or unconsciously) emulate negative behaviour they’e experienced, but I think their ranks dwindle with age and maturity.
I wasn’t discriminated against all that much. I was teased in elementary school, but people in my high school were great and never mentioned my weight. There were nasty comments here and there, but very rarely. But I just felt so uncomfortable in my body, and was incredibly insecure, so I would never say something that would make another person feel the same.
I just realised that Stanlio and Olio is the Croatian translation for Laurel and Hardy.
My BFF is very, very thin and tiny. She’s about 5’1″ and is very petite. Sometimes she has to buy in the kids’ section and she’s 25 years old. When people tell her she’s skinny, they always sound snide and sarcastic, like my BFF has an eating disorder or bad eating habits. Sometimes she’d get the casual “Eat more, girl! Gain weight!” comments. It’s ridiculous, all the more so because she has had a very busy schedule since University and not once had she fallen ill because of poor health. She is thin and has always been thin. Never affects her overall well-being.
I think in some instances, getting called thin/skinny implies one has an eating disorder, which is a mental illness and not a simple issue of not eating/eating too much. In my experience, I’ve never had people be offended when they hear, “Someone feed her a cheeseburger!” referring to a thin person.
Or the one comment I really despise: “Real women have curves.”
Some people would say that an overweight person probably has some medical condition they can’t help and that contributes to their weight gain. But a thin person must not have any health problem with weight, so the main reason why he/she is very thin is that it’s of his/her own doing ie. starving themselves or binging on food, eating too little, exercising too much, etc.
Either way, skinny or “fat” comments, it’s all hurtful.
Spooks, I knew you meant Stanley and Ollie. And it was cute. 😉
I have always been thin and have had and currently have friends who are overweight. Two of the girls I’m friends with (who are overweight) are the friendliest people on planet Earth. And the other (who is equally overweight) is one of the surliest people on planet Earth.
My surly friend is just unhappy. Period. And hates skinny girls because they are skinny. My two other friends I think may be a little envious of skinnier girls, but they’ve never hated on the skinny girls for being thin. And they are two of the happiest people around.
The difference? Self-esteem. Perhaps you just keep encountering people who don’t have any.
Some women are just miserable, jealous, crazy people. And some women aren’t. It doesn’t have too much to do with size. It has to do with loving yourself, liking who you are, and being proud of who you are regardless of what you look like. Some people can be happy. Others can’t. It’s a shame.
I feel sorry for miserable, jealous, crazy women (and men too). Seriously – these people need to get a life.
I don’t think you need to be flamed for this, but if you already know that a lot of people will think you are wrong maybe you should give it a thought. There’s not much to say. To generalize a couple of people you met to the all the population in the world is a bit out of line. I was super skinny when I was younger and I had a lot of overweighted friends…they were great people, as my skinny friends and normal sized ones were…ye, that’s the story.
Well, Kortnee certainly points something out. Jennifer could have been a lot crueler and said – it’s all the fat girls that are mean.
Love her!
No need to say that I love, love, love her – seems I say it every time there is a story about her.
I read the comments Joan Rivers made about Jennifer and they infuriated me. My thoughts were “the old hag can dish it out but she sure can’t take it”. She had the nerve to call Jennifer “arrogant” because she dared to criticize that train wreck of a show “Fashion Police”.
People never fail to amaze me. Joan can and does ridicule anyone and everyone: then she has the audacity to gripe when someone has a negative comment about her show. Unbelievable.
Totally agree – Joan Rivers and her ilk are horrible the way they rip apart people for their looks. They do it in such an insulting, crude way – I think Joan must be suffering from some sort of dementia that affects the part of her brain governing niceness. The sooner they get that show off the air, the better for the rest of society.
” I think Joan must be suffering from some sort of dementia that affects the part of her brain governing niceness.”
Harsh but I legit laughed out loud.
Joan Rivers looks like a dangerous alien from the planet zog and is in no position to comment on how anybody looks, she’s just an appalling old bully and it’s time to switch her off…
It seems the new haircut changed her whole attitude. Like she’s fuller of energy and smillier
Nah, she can call me mean too, I’m fine with it. I really don’t like her. I don’t think she’s a great actress at all and her “adorable” personality seems like an act to me.
I love her, and I love her penchant for fart jokes and good humor. I think there are far more annoying celebrities who are overexposed right now. I don’t get the hate for JLaw.
First and foremost- love the coat! She should have worn that to the premier instead of the see through number.
I have been really entertained here by some of the witty comments over some fashion disaster or another. Like one actress said one time- it’s only clothes.
Re Joan Rivers- watch “A Piece of Work”- she has had to fight long and hard to get where she is. She can be vulgar, sure, but how is that that much different than talking about your BM issues on David Letterman?
I love Joan. She is vulgar and horrible sometimes, but that’s her comedy style.
Joan can be extremely mean but that kind of…er, sassiness, has always been at the core of her comedy.
I’m always torn with her- at times, I find her to be really mean-spirited at the expense of others, but it’s hard for me to be mad at her when she’s making me laugh my ass off.
Also, it’s important to note that her humor can be quite self-deprecating, which doesn’t bother me as much as comedians who can only make fun of other people, and not themselves.
I wish that she would stop talking about her weight. She brought up her thighs on Letterman, when he was just complimenting her dress. I used to like her, but now she’s just fishing for compliments about her body by talking so much about how she won’t conform to Hollywood size standards. I realize that she’s not actress-anorexic, but she’s had a ton of positive attention, gets great jobs, and is obviously seen as a sex symbol. She’s very fit and wears tiny skirts and tight dresses. She knows she looks great and is coming off as insincere on that matter. Rather than making her relate-able, I think it has the opposite effect on women who have more average builds… or those of us who are also fit, and don’t feel the need to pretend that we’re overweight.
What did she say on Letterman?
He showed a picture of her in a see-through dress and said that she looked great. She cringed and said something like, “Ugh, my thighs!” I mean, she chose to wear the dress, and she looked amazing in it. And, on Letterman, she was wearing a very short skirt that showed off her enviable legs.
Break, I kind of got the feeling that she didn’t chose the dress, but was forced due to her deal with Dior. I could be wrong, though!
Right after JL talks about how women are mean to one another, she then goes on to be mean to herself about her thighs. She shouldn’t put herself down publically like this – it is an unhealthy mental habit. Also, people can be a’holes and people can be angels, regardless of gender.
I think women do this a lot. I always see people commenting on so and so looks good in a dress – they will say….. She looks good. If I had that body, I’d wear it, but I would look terrible in it because I’m a size whatever. We often compliment someone by putting ourselves down. But if you notice, we also compliment others by tearing another down. For example, any JA hater will drag in AJ, and vice versa.
It is too bad that women get so hung up on weight issues that it destroys their self from inside and also puts a damper on friendships – and that clothing is not made in more varieties, because there are so many varieties of shapes in humans. It is ridiculous that fashion can be so limiting because the designers and manufacturers aren’t more versatile and creative. As a designer I’d want everyone to be able to wear my clothes.
This is probably the best outfit that she wore in the Catching Fire promotions. Anyway, I cant stand this woman. I hope she takes a really long vacation after American Hustle.
I don’t see the point in complaining about something that’s never going to change. Chris Rock put it best: “Women, y’all could rule the world. But you don’t because, why? Because women hate women.” Hating and slaughtering each other is encoded in our DNA.
J-Law’s a little overexposed right now (and I’m tired of hearing/reading about her), and that haircut ages her like crazy, but I still like her.
And that coat is fabulous.
Slaughtering and wars are generally at the discretion of men.
Exactly.
It suits men to portray us as catty and horrible, while they, as a gender, do far more horrible things. Has Chris Rock ever made a comment about that fact?
Geemonkey played right in the hands of men, who like to rag on women for being catty, but never question why men commit far more violence than women.
I disagree that it’s in our DNA. But I think that a society that has so many stifling ‘rules’ about how women are supposed to look, dress, and present themselves, and expectations about what we’re supposed to do to keep a man , will naturally promote bitchiness, bullying, and superficiality among women and girls. I think that in a society that was a whole lot less sexist (in more ways than one) wouldn’t have all these problems.
I don’t mind anyone disagreeing with me on the “encoding of hate in our DNA”. My female co-worker disagrees with me on that all of the time.
I have never hated a woman based on what anyone (the media, the internet, etc.) has said. I try my best to judge people on their character and how they treat others.
I just think that women are fickle and our mood changes often. And we just don’t like other women just because. Not because we are bad, but I think that it’s just in our wiring. Do I think that we should all be better? Of course. But no matter how you spin it, or persist that women should get along, most of us never will. Some of us have low self-esteem, have been through crap or are just down right nasty (for various reasons), and that all shapes how we treat each other.
I honestly think if all women banded together, we would rule the world. But so many of us are so different, that that’s never going to happen.
Oh, and we are insanely competitive, especially with each other. That’s probably another reason why we’ll never come together either.
It’s not just women who hate women, of course. I don’t think she was necessarily just talking about women hating on women. I’ve seen more dudes say nasty things about her body than women. I’ve come to think that most of the people in this world, male and female alike, are misogynists. Woman-on-Woman hate seems to get more attention because it seems stranger than men hating women.
The problem is that everyone just wants to go to extremes. Either they hate on girls non-stop or think women should always just go along with whatever a woman does without any criticism whatsoever. Here’s an idea everyone: let’s just treat ourselves as people. Valuable, flawed, unique, weird, normal, competent, imperfect, freakish people. You know. Like Men.
Isn’t it just another form of bashing women by saying that *all* women slaughter other women?
Plenty of men bash other men and they may do the same to women and vice versa.
You get it.
Jennifer Lawrence needs to fall back. She is always so nasty about skinny women, now she wants to preach kindness? It’s not anyone’s fault she’s not naturally skinny. It is very stupid of her to act as if all skinny people are starving.
You do know that she works in Hollywood? Come on, she’s surrounded by women who starve to get a role or stay relevant. I totally understand that she complains about it and don’t think she’s talking about women who are naturally thin in general.
God the hair still. I shudder every time I see it, hoping I’ll hate it less the more I see it. No luck so far.
Ohh, she’s definitely right.
I am a little snarky and pessimistic naturally, but I’m a lot more bold when I don’t have to say it to someone’s face i.e. on this site–and I was a little (a lot) bitchy on this site a few years ago, but I’m trying to be a lot nicer to the celebs that I don’t like so much–not sure if it’s working though, I still rag on people pretty hard.
No matter if you think she is right or wrong on the issue of how women treat each other, whether men treat women just as poorly etc…
What if we all try to treat each other better, even if the stereotype of mean girls isn’t true? Can’t hurt, right? 😀
Kumbaya, ladies!
Word Jennifer, word.
This site gives a good example of what she’s saying. We tear into female celebrities while the men (Alec Baldwin anyone) barely get anything. I’m guilty of being mean but I like to think I’m mean about everyone. Hahaha
If we could just get her to shut up and go away for a while she would do women a great service.
Not me, I like her.
Im totaly in love with her !!!
It wasn’t me. I would never imply that Jennifer Lawrence or anyone else had sex to get her success and I’m very leary of applying the old ‘sexually exploited’ stereotype to any woman.
The thing about the nudity/skin-baring double standard, the thing about Selena’s and Miley’s (and others) views on feminism, and Jennifer Lawrence’s comments here, remind me of an e-card that I saw on the internet yesterday. I don’t want to save the picture, and it won’t let me copy and paste the words here, so I’ll just type it here. It said:
“Feminism: My body, my choice! Unless it’s the wrong body or wrong choice, then f- you, traitor.”
I’ve seen this sort of ‘feminist’ attitude not just in comments here, but in the writings of others as well. It really doesn’t make sense to talk about freedom and equality and choice, how awful things like eating disorders and Hollywood beauty standards are, teen suicides and bullying, and “Gee, how come female celebrities aren’t calling themselves feminists?” one minute, and then go slut-shaming and body-shaming (or justifying those things) the next, taking freedoms away when it comes to clothing, and saying that certain women can’t be feminists just because you disapprove of things they’ve done with their own physical appearances and bodies.
Feminism doesn’t mean blindly approving of whatever someone does by virtue of the fact that she has a vagina, but it also definitely doesn’t mean tearing down other women in conservative misogynistic ways just because you, your mom, and your grandpa disapprove of those women and want them to be ‘modest ladies.’
There’s a lot of truth in what Jennifer Lawrence’s message. Guys contribute to the mean culture to. But I think fighting it starts with us because we’re at more of a disadvantage when it comes to the ‘mean girl’ thing than they are. They’re not the ones being told that they have to be thin and sexually modest, and they’re not the ones reinforcing that bigotry with each other.
The biggest bitch I’ve ever met is the man I work with every day. He’s so jealous! He’s technically my boss but I’m more educated and experienced than he is and it fries his sorry ass. I do however think that men are more apt to let things role off their back while women hang onto crap.
I don’t understand the hype around her
The last pic looks like she has a man hand. I can’t decide if I want to make a Seinfeld or Foo Fighters’ joke.
Ever since Jennifer won her Best Actress Oscar, some people on this site have had all kinds of theories about how she earned it, each more disgusting than the next. I am glad Bedhead raised yesterday’s comments – I found the insinuations that this young, very talented and wholly deserving girl only got nominated/won because she gave oral sex to her boss despicable. Is it so unlikely that her talent and compelling performance in SLP garnered the recognition of the Academy and her peers due to her own merits?
It reminded me of a Kristen Stewart post not long ago on this site where two posters were were stating that they hoped Kristen would go and drown. Physically DROWN. That level of vitriol made me so uncomfortable, I don’t click on her posts anymore.
Jennifer is 100% correct in her statements on women slaughtering other women for sport. And for those who are saying “Grow up Jennifer, this is real world, get a thick skin, etc.,” I wholeheartedly disagree with you. This may be OCCURRING in the real world, but it doesn’t HAVE to. We are all responsible for doing our part to support our fellow women. When you take things to a nasty, hatred-fueled level – you are doing so by your own choice.
I agree that the theories about how she earned Oscar went too far. I don’t think there’s anything fishy happened between her and Harvey. Her Oscar win is a result of good campaigning and Harvey knows how to play his game with Oscar voters. But when it comes to the performance’s quality, her win is just head-scratching to me, especially other performances are really better than hers.
Considering that what Roman Polanski did was just another everyday activities in Hollywood, I wouldn’t say nothing fishy happened.
Why do women hate on other women? Why does anyone hate on anyone? Hate means extreme dislike, meaning hate has a lot of passion which dislike doesn’t have. So I understand why someone would hate something its because they have a passionate disdain for it, like I hate people who abuse animals, always have always will, that is my extreme dislike, I hate, abhor, loathe animal abusers with every inch of my body. So these haters don’t hate just dislike someone or something, which frankly sound exhausting. I’m quite a lazy person so using up my energy to just dislike someone feels like a lot of effort. Effort I would rather use to talk to someone I like and feel happy, rather then use to make a catty remark and leave a bitter taste in my mouth. Maybe someone could explain it too mean but in the mean time I’m just going to act indifferent to people I don’t like 🙂
I’m glad you addressed the disgusting handful of comments, although I wish you had addressed it in the past in reference to Gwyneth Paltrow and such in relation to Harvey. People cross the lines on here sometime with the vitriol and it’s disgusting and so OTT, and be it Kim K or everyone’s favorite Jennifer it needs to be reined it at times.
This may be pragmatic and cold, but this is my opinion on Harvey. Anyone who thinks he is screwing all these actresses who are in his movies when he can get some random mistress with his money or hire a thousand dollar an hour escort are not thinking in terms of business. Harvey lives for his movies and his Oscars, he’s not going to screw up his chances of racking up more awards by casting some blonde girl because she slept with him and then have it backfire on him on the awards circuit. I think he’s a gross, sloppy sexist pig but I also think for BUSINESS reasons he would never be sloppy enough to cross his work with his pleasure. I think he screwed up & had an “affair” (not a casting couch) with Gretchen Mol, and that’s what started all this crap…..
Also, give MORE credit to the women involved in his movies. Gwyneth, Mira, Jennifer, and others earned their Oscars because they gave great performances and (some believe) because the Oscars are a popularity contest and Harvey’s the head cheerleader who wanted more awards for himself and his company. NOT because of some nefarious sexual thing.
Think from a different perspective. Maybe sex is strictly a business transaction tool in Hollywood. I suspect that they do have a completely different set of social norm from the general population. Maybe I am being very misanthropic, but Social Exchange Theory is thriving i n Tinseltown. In primates, exchanging sexual favor for food is a very common phenomenon.
Jennifer looks cute here & did a fantastic job in Catching Fire. She’s very charming, but I do think there is kind of an “overload” right now with her and it can be a bit much. She reminds me of those people you know who are super charming and fun at a party but if you had to be around them 24/7 you’d want a break. I’m afraid the over-exposure is going to continue for a bit though, because she has a very good shot at a best supporting nom for American Hustle. I do wonder about her schedule…Girl is working like crazy and never seems to have a break. She seems to go from movie set, to movie set. I wonder if she would be better off dropping one of her many projects to avoid the over-exposure and get kind of a personal break? She’s only 23, after all.
She’s holding a box of cheez it. That is all.
time the promo tour for this teenie hunger games-stuff ends
There is a lack of LOYALTY all around. Especially on here….
I just came here to say that I watched “Catching Fire” this morning and I’m more in love with JLaw than ever. Look, it bugs me a little that Katniss towers over Peeta (why can’t he wear lifts or something??) but she does such justice to the role. In fact, the entire cast was amazing. And even though I absolutely love the book (have read through the series several times), the screenwriter needs to win some award for truly the best adaptation ever. If anything, it went more in depth into the complex “cat and mouse” game than the book did and really developed Plutarch as a character. That’s all.
Bedhead, you’re the bomb.com. As for someone disliking Jennifer Lawrence, this coming from someone who has trust issues with humans in general as a natural instinct? If you don’t like a person like Jennifer, it may be because you’re uncomfortable with yourself. Sorry, but I go with my gut and that girl is phenomenal. I gravitate towards people like her. I’m grateful for that.
I like her but i think her comment about what kids watch is interesting. I personally feel that the Hunger Games book and movie are not appropriate for children/tweens/teens and that’s who the books were originally written for.
I’m not attacking the quality or anything like that but do young people really need to be reading books and watching films about a dystopian future where children are selected to fight to the death for the entertainment of the rich and punishment of the poor?
I say that having read things like Goosebumps and Fear Street as a child (as well as good old The babysitters club) which are “scary” but at least they aren’t about children killing each other for sport
While the subject matter may be controversial, the book series doesn’t glamorize the premise but uses it as a platform to discuss issues in our post-911 world. What I especially like is that it fosters conversation about the dangers of becoming like our enemy, when we start using their methods. Instead of the usual love triangle, the book uses the two men in Katniss’ lives to represent both sides of the argument.