Many divorced people hate their exes. Some wish death on them, even if they have kids with that person. Most people know not to do this on social media, not to mention in any kind of public forum. Not Jon Gosselin. He’s on VH1’s Couple’s Therapy with such reality show luminaries as Taylor Armstrong and Farrah Abraham. After a particularly difficult phone conversation with Kate, Jon went off on camera about his ex, saying that his ex was a “f’ing piece of sh*t” and that she could “f’ing die,.” Jon was especially angry about a lawsuit Kate had filed against him, suing him for stealing her hard drive and giving her personal diaries to an author who proceeded to write a book trashing Kate. (The lawsuit has since been dropped and Kate’s lawyers have succeeded in getting the book blocked.) Jon also explained, on camera, that he’d written his own book but that his lawyers had warned him against publishing it.
Jon Gosselin tears apart his ex-wife Kate Gosselin in the Thursday, Feb. 27 episode of VH1’s Couples Therapy, in which he says, “She can go and f—ing die.”
It begins with Gosselin revealing to his housemates that he’s written a book about his life, “but I’m just afraid to publish it,” he says. “It took me two years — everything that happened, my side, my emotions,” he continues…
The former TLC reality star, who stars in Season 4 of Couples Therapy with girlfriend of two years, Liz Jannetta, is later seen in the clip finishing a heated phone conversation with his ex-wife. “You don’t value me as a human or man,” Gosselin says in his confessional directly to Kate.
Unable to hold back, Gosselin unleashes an F-bomb filled rant about his “narcissistic” ex-wife, who can “go out and talk about the kids anytime she wants . . .She can go and f—ing die,” he says at one point. “There’s your honest depiction of Kate Gosselin. So f— it. Piece of f—ing s–t. What a sh—y human being,” he furiously adds of his ex-wife.
What kind of chance do those kids have with such a whiny toolbox for a dad and a harpy control freak for a mom? Jon talks a good game about living a quiet life out of the spotlight, but then he proceeds to take a gig on a reality show where he bitches and moans about his ex. Jon threatens, on camera, to go for full custody of his kids, after admitting that he hasn’t spoken to them for two weeks. (Which may not be his fault, but still.) He complains about Kate exploiting the kids to the media, but then he trashes their mother horribly on television. Neither of these people has the moral high ground.
Here’s the video clip. See how long you can listen to Jon’s whining.
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Poor kids.
+1 Ugh. Those two are disgusting.
Exactly. +1000. No matter what I think of Kate, that’s STILL his kids’ mother he’s talking about. What a walking, talking bucket of elephant #$%.
PS – my apologies to elephants.
Awful people, both of them. Poor children don’t stand much of a chance at happiness, do they?
Well, as a divorced parent I can certainly sympathize. That being said, he of all people should know when the cameras are rolling & what he does in a public format may be used against him. Whether it be in court or public opinion.
I’m going to do the unthinkable here, I am going to defend Jon. This woman is a stain on the American face. She birthed eight children and used them for fame, profit, and vanity. She belittled her husband on and off television, in front of her children and in front of the world. She cheated on him, publicly, showed zero remorse for it, and then, after beating her husband into damn near oblivion where he sank into the couch next to her almost like a placeholder rather than a father and partner, she divorced him, took his children, and further slandered his name. Wanting her to die may seem harsh, but if you took my children away from me, used them for profit, and didn’t allow me to see them for weeks at a time, I might do a lot worse than WISH you dead. I can’t imagine that those eight angels deserve to be with that horrible excuse for a parent. Perhaps he is too angry and says inappropriate things when cameras are around, but I still would venture a guess that his children would have a better chance at a “normal” life under his care.
Yes, and maybe he’s provoked to say things about her by those tv show producers. Who knows, it can happen. Ratings and selling advertisement spaces is everything to them.
I’m with you. Kate has said plenty about him over the years, although she’s much more passive aggressive about it. I didn’t realize she won’t even let him go to the door to pick up the kids. She makes him buzz at the gate and wait to see which children will come see him. Disgusting.
I agree, Bluebear. I think going on a verbal tantrum isn’t really that big of a deal and it is kind of expected with how she treats him. While he isn’t my favorite person, I do think she is not just unlikeable, she is a destructive and dangerous person. I sincerely worry for the kids under her care.
Not unthinkable at all. He certainly is the lesser of the two evils, even spewing what he did in this clip in his anger over her presumably interminable obstructionist & ball busting behaviors. I don’t doubt that she maligns him in front of their kids any chance she gets, and has no clue how damaging that is to them. Those poor kids. I kind of hope he does get custody of some/all of the children. It would probably be healthier for them than living with that horrible harpy shrew.
People have gotten more than enough exposure to this woman’s true colors. Public sympathy is turning to Jon, I think. He needs to get his shit together for them. I believe his assessment of her vitriol toward him being greater than her love for the kids is 100% accurate.
I absolutely cannot stand that horrible excuse for a mother, Kate. I only caught a clip or two back when their show was on the air and I felt just awful for Jon. Then there have been the recordings/clips of how Kate talks to her kids. Wolves raise their children better. If I had been married to a human being like her, I might be a total whack job at this point. But just wait. Those kids will have their own tell-alls in the coming years. Those kids will get their evens back from Kate one day. Here’s hoping that they stay sane on the way up until they can get away from her.
I also watched the show. Kate treated Jon
so terrible. He should be in therapy
just to get past the anger. I actually
feel bad for him. Kate is the most vile
woman. Looking forward to the first of many
“Mommy Dearest” books written by
the kids.
I agree with you. I watched the show.
I have never ever seen a woman who
was meaner than Kate. I will always
defend Jon when it comes to Kate.
Jon made his choices too, nobody forced him to marry Kate and produce 8 kids. The only reason he’s on TV having a tantrum is because he got x’d out of the story line. I don’t like Kate, but Jon is no saint and I have no sympathy for him. He has eight children with her, how do you think those eight kids feel about their father wishing she was dead on camera for all the world to hear? He needs to grow up, man up and stop being a whiny little bitch. Boo-hoo, Kate is SOOOO mean. Grow up you disgusting little man-boy.
Plus Khate just finished a run of public talk shows and magazines running down the father of her children. She did this while including some of the kids in the interview as well. I remember reading the article on People that she mentioned the bad effects from Jon and she had her twins interviewed in the same article. She is vile. And didn’t People Magazine just come out with their policy on children? I would definitely consider what Khate was/is doing to her kids exploitation.
This is completely inappropriate and uncalled for, no matter what his feelings about her are. These two a-holes should start thinking about the well-being of their children, and not attention from the media.
^Exactly. His need to say this to the press (not to mention appearing on a reality show) reveals a lot of narcissism on his part, too.
The better part of humility is keeping your mouth shut.
As much as I dislike Kate, Jon has no room to talk. He doesn’t even support those EIGHT kids. At least she provides for them! He needs to STFU.
Agreed. I never watched the show, but I’ve read enough about what has happened since then to know he doesn’t pay support and isn’t a real part of the kids’ lives. It doesn’t matter how much she my make or how little he makes, he has a legally and ethical obligation to those children. This has nothing to do with Kate.
It is always odd to me how he gets such a pass by so many on here.
agreed- picking between these two i think i have to go with kate? when the show was still pretty sweet and they still seemed to be a couple in love, you could understand the control freak tendencies – she has 8 kids. she better be organized and on top of everything! at this point though… woof. she is simply the lesser of two evils.
also – i do hate to say i’m on her side about one thing – making an income. she wouldn’t make enough to support a family going back to work as a nurse, and with 8 kids it seems reasonable to have a large house with a lot of land if you can afford it. if she makes her money by selling cookbooks or going on dancing with the stars… sure, go ahead. i think she should have learned her lesson, though, and keep her kids off of tv and stop trying to get another reality show.
Yes. This. Exactly.
But if you think it is ok for Kate to go on DWTS etc. to support the kid, surely you can’t knock Jon for going on a reality show as well to earn money.
@Tiffany I genuinely don’t know – does she speak this horribly about their father on her shows? I think they both sound horrible, and users, but to know one of your parents has gone on national television and talked about the other this way… no kid should have to handle that.
Jon’s money from the show went into a trust that was used to pay the exorbitant child support required because Kate wanted to live in a mansion. He also contributed from his post-show income. They have joint custody, and he has to duplicate everything they have at his place because Kate won’t let the kids take anything when with him. He put the money from this latest reality gig into a house close to Kate’s so the kids are within a ten minute drive. He and Kate decided eventually that his paying her child support was not necessary under the joint custody conditions, since he pays for everything on his watch. in California, the judge would be telling her to pay child support to him in order to equalize lifestyles with both parents for the kids.
I don’t see how this sums up as not supporting the kids or not being a part of their lives.
These two are so horrible, they deserve each other.
People have horrible divorces and that’s hard enough on kids, but putting all this out there publicly is just gross.
Yes she is all those things and more, no doubt. But, she is still the mother of your children. So, you gotta suffer in silence dude.
I hope she brings this up the next time he talks about wanting custody of only the sextuples and not the twins.
Of course, he will want custod of those six util they realize (as the twins) did that he is a man-child who has yet to grow up and is still trying to punish Kate (who is not a saint obviously) for her trying to make him be a man.
Sorry, Kate may be a bitchy harpy, but she is with those kids every single day while he waits tables, dates Kate look-a-likes and spends hours on TV telling people how he wants to be off TV.
This is what happens when you have too many expenses and lack the means to meet them. Both Jon and Kate have a shaky house of cards when it comes to lifestyle demands, including their desires for their kids’ futures, and are resorting to the freak show pay check of exploitive TV. I bet Jon is now in nothing-to-lose survival mode. He doesn’t have a reputation to salvage or any dignity that he hasn’t thrown in the trash, but he is forgetting about his kids. They will see this, horribly sooner rather than later. How short sighted of him to not want his children’s respect over his own bruised ego. If any book needs to be written it is by respected and knowledgeable psychologists and experts about the perils of putting your life under a microscope and the damage it does to young children. THAT would be the only valuable thing worth remembering about the fiasco that was Jon and Kate Plus Eight!
Both Jon and Kate made enough money from their show that had they not be narcissistic and greedy, buying ridiculous things for themselves, wasting that money, they both could have purchased nice homes outright, paid off their debts and had money in the bank, not to mention have trust funds for each child. Instead they squandered money on expensive apartments, buying cars for girlfriends and trips (Jon) and expensive personal grooming and staff and huge homes and private schools (Kate), and who knows what else! They dug their own graves with their bad behaviour, each showing the worst behaviour possible and losing any positive feelings that public had towards them. Instead of recognizing that, they continue to badmouth each other …particularly Jon, who doesn’t give a single thought to how his children might feel hearing him say such things about their mother.
Both are famewhores, no matter what they say, and are desperate to remain relevant and try to get any kind of tv or other media appearances they can for money. Both of them disgust me and I feel very badly for their children.
Money Kate made on their TV program, went into trust funds for the children. She just stated that on the Katie Couric show. Jon gave up full custody of the children so he would not have to pay child support. That shows you a lot. He has weekly visitation with the children. Those who want to go, go. Those that don’t, don’t. The twins I think finally realized what their father is. For someone who doesn’t want to be in the public eye, it appears he is constantly going to the press, doing couples therapy, threatening to write a book, and I understand he has approached producers for his own TV show. What a loser!
There are laws in place to protect children from having their parents waste the money they earn on TV. There is no way TLC or whatever station they were on would not have arranged the contracts to legally protect the children’s earnings. It’s standard practice today, thank goodness, due to the horror stories of the past exploitation of child stars.
This. I am watching Couples Therapy and him and his girlfriend creep me out to no end. She is maybe as abusive as Kate and he has no backbone or common sense. Also, I read somewhere that they’d only been dating for a few months, not a few years. Not sure which is the truth, but they won’t last long. He needs to enroll in a Maturity 101 Class.
Tips that start halfway down the nailbed look pornstar and cheap, Kate.
At least Kate is trying to provide a life for her kids. This a-hole is on a reality tv show cursing out the mother of his children because he can’t even keep a damn job. What a huge loser.
What he said is completely uncalled for, but most people that has ever dealt with a person like Kate (and survived it) can understand exactly why…Until Jon learns how to not to react to Kate, not to let her push his buttons, he will fall into her trap ever time. He will look like the bad guy, not saying some of it is not his to own. She is a narcissist and probably some other disorder personality type, God help the Gosselin children. Jon ought to stay away from women and read about parental alienation. That’s what she is doing to him and when you lie down with dogs—you pick up their fleas. (types of behavior)
Look, I can’t stand my ex-husband but NO MATTER WHAT, I NEVER, EVER say anything negative about him in front of our child because he is their father. Period.
I’ll take it a step further . . . I actually COMPLEMENT and STICK UP for my ex to my kids when they are complaining about him. Why? Because its the right thing to do. Kids will try to pit one parent against the other to try to get their way. I’m not going to let that happen and my kids know it. Even though we could not make our marriage work, we try really, really hard to co-parent.
Exactly. I tell them that their father loves him very, very much and misses him (he RARELY sees him and makes no effort to.) Badmouthing only hurts the child. 🙁
Jon makes Kate look good. Kate might be hungry for fame and wealth to maintain her lavish lifestyle, but he is a deadbeat who cares more about continuing this public feud with Kate than the wellbeing of his children. At least she is a full-time parent and lives with those kids. He lives on the other side of the country and has very little interaction with them. I’ve met fathers who blame not getting along with the mother of their children as an excuse not to pay child support or be active in their lives. It isn’t an excuse. He really needs to STFU. He calls her a fame whore, but he is looking to make more money by publishing books that would further tarnish the reputation of the mother of his children. He’s pathetic.
I agree with you. As I said upthread, I don’t get why so many give him a pass on these issues. He’s lucky he hasn’t been thrown in jail like other people who haven’t paid support.
He lives four miles away from her, he was only in L.A. for two weeks to film this show. Moreover, he is not a deadbeat, the court (NOT Kate) relieved him of child support because Kate is supporting those kids on their OWN money (the “trust funds” that were supposed to be in reserve for college). I am in complete agreement that what he said about her shouldn’t have been put into the public domain for people’s entertainment. That said, though, I think if you saw how Kate trotted out her teen twins on Today and The View a few weeks ago, and tried to prompt them to trash their dad for the cameras, you might begin to understand just how insidious and destructive a narcissist she is.
Yes he does make her look good.
I would add, it would have been a good idea if he just went to therapy – individual, professional confidential, and saw a life coach, and build up some self-esteem. It looks like he needs it. I know it sounds like I am defending him, and I am, in a way. I can’t help it though, I remember the way she treating him when they had the show. That said I don’t like either of them.
Absolutely, this. I can’t defend him but he desperately needs training to learn how to be a standup man. Also, his current girlfriend is making him worse.
Oh my, I forgot about them.
In my opinion it would be great if both Kate and Jon were banned from tv – I know it sounds bad, freedom of speech and all – but this would be beneficial for the children. I don’t care what Kate and Jon do to each other, they are adults, but the children will suffer to consequences. Don’t give those two totally unresponsible adults a public arena – television is big and it generates cash – as we can see. And I don’t want to see Kate + or – the children either. She is not a nice person and she is not entertaining.
This story gets MAJORLY under my skin, as do any others that pertain to these 2 people. Kate Gosselin = Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Having just come out of a horrific NPD relationship with my Husband and suffered damage to your soul brought on by years of verbal and
emotional abuse., that I can only relate to as PTSD. I KNOW for a fact that Kate is NPD, and although Jon has been a major tool bag at times,
he is Psych 101 in the symptoms he is displaying after his continued abuse (and years before that). These people have stripped you of your soul, bit by bit, for years (if you were married to them or long term) and by the end you have nothing left. No self worth, no voice. And then the anger takes over, and it can take years to recover. Look back at their episodes from their show, it is 100% why Jon is acting out. It is a very serious Personality Disorder that people do not understand unless they have been on the receiving end. The children can end up paying the ultimate price, as I have a Son I am ultimately trying to protect. But the sad part is that NPD’s never recover, they can’t be helped, so Jon needs to start relating to her in a different way, as they feed off the drama. The who things makes me beyond sad. Other celebrity narcissists would be Alec Baldwin and Charlie Sheen just to give examples.
Jon needs to do two things, in my opinion: 1. go into therapy (private therapy, NOT a televised reality show therapy) where he can learn to undo the damage Kate did, find out why he got involved with a woman like Kate and stayed with her for as long as he did, and learn how to deal with her from now on and 2. not become involved with anyone until he has completed 1. Has anyone noticed that his new girlfriend, Liz, is treating him just the way Kate did, and just like he did in his marriage, he doesn’t stand up for himself? He has got to learn to break that pattern, otherwise he’ll find himself in another abusive marriage.
Those poor kids. How do they come out of this ok with parents like Kate and John? I hope some money was set aside for their education so they can escape these two eventually.
It was. Their college educations have been paid for by the State of PA.
I don’t think that’s true. The accounts were set up but I don’t think the state paid in to them. I can hear the furor from here from PA if people thought that the state paid for these children’s accounts and not others?
The state of PA opens a college education fund for each child of the state. They start it with $5. It is up to the parents to continue it after that. It was brought up in the first Kate/TLC versus Jon court case. It was TLC’s lawyers that stated this, because Jon was accusing Kate of spending all the kid’s money. They also said 15% of each show’s payday was split between the kid’s accounts.
I’ve heard that PA has a program where you can buy college credits at current tuition rates & your kids can use them when they’re ready for college as long as they go to a state school. Maybe they did that?
i hope the fact they have 8 kids, 6 of which are the same exact age and 2 aren’t that much older, will allow them to support each other in response to their parents behavior. I didn’t have a sister until I was 10, but I can imagine that having siblings in a home where your parents are more childish than you are, is better than being an only child in the middle of two adults fighting.
hopefully they can stick together and help each other grow up and deal with the drama they have been forced into to become ‘normal’ members of society who take their parents behavior as an example of how not to behave.
Ugh, these people. And yeah, while Kate IS terrible, she’s definitely the lesser of two evils here. Jon seems like he wouldn’t even be capable of keeping the kids alive on his own. One of my friends has an ex like that–he’s a completely incompetent, irresponsible man-baby, but every so often he raises a stink about wanting more visitation time with their son, even though he constantly cancels on the weekends he does get and just ignores the kid when he is with him. He doesn’t actually care about being with his child, he just wants to “win.” It’s disgusting. (And yeah, she was really young and naive when they got together, and fortunately is an amazing mom and much wiser person now.)
I will give jon some credit based on the fact that at least on their tv show he was much more attentive and affectionate towards the kids than Kate was. Children need love and attention as well, not just food and a roof over their heads. I oversimplify here, there are other factors to be considered, but still. And maybe they wouldn’t be so isolated if Jon spent more with them. They could see their other relatives, socialize more.
I feel so sorry for those kids, omg. They MADE that show. Not Kate and Jon. And boy they squandered money big time.
Really? Every time I watched, he acted like it was a chore to have to spend time with them. If they were doing something fun that he liked, he was fine, but whenever they did something he obviously found boring, he checked out. Granted, I stopped watching the show really early on, so maybe I just didn’t see it.
He looks…different. Like he’s messing with his eyes. My cousin got this “un-Asian” eye surgery to make herself look more caucasian, and his eyes look like that now.
They are both so despicable and over-exposed I’ve run out of words for their characters.
Ouch. that hurts. Seeing your parents turn on each other like that is very painful from a child’s point of view. They may have been both a**es, but they should never ever backlash their spouse in public. Especially not in front of their children. the kids will feel pressured and guilty for having to side with one of them. That’s the problem I see nowadays. Parents try to turn their kids into their allies. They try to turn their kids against the other. Children should be supported by both parents, not fighting to stay in the favor of one. Whatever bullcrap you two guys have, leave the kids out of it. They know nothing about it and they do not deserve to be dragged in the mudslinging. This has got to be hard on the children, as they’re still very young. Heck, I’m 24 years old and remembering how my parents beat each other up and separated 4 months ago makes me cry up to this day. :-/
She’s everything he said she is, and he IS/WAS the good parent, but I can’t endorse that language in a public venue. He lost credibility by being vulgar, as well as my support.
She, on the other hand, is a COMPLETE FRAUD…didn’t write her books and didn’t give credit to the ghostwriter and has been sleeping with the bodyguard for years…she caused the divorce, not Jon. He simply reacted to all the abuse and humiliation and started acting out on his own.
Still, Jon lowered himself to the bottom of the totem pole with his crudeness.
So I thought that about my ex for years and then I healed and realized that he didn’t give two snaps what I thought about him and that our relationship turned into a business one because of our son and not anything more. As it turns out I was just a blimp on his life’s course as he was in mine. Like it or not that’s hard to think of when you are still hurting from the relationship. Kate was horrid to Jon for many years and then just dumped him when she THOUGHT she had found something better. If Kate is ever lucky enough to snare another man she will do the same to him as she has to every other guy whose been in her life. She is just a vile selfish person. That will not change.
She’s the vile selfish person? She’s not the one saying she hopes the father of her children will “fking die” on national television on a trashy reality show for all the world to see.
The amount of vitriol in here is gross.
Yes she is. Where were you when she took two children on talk shows and wanted them to trash their dad? She’s smart enough not to do it herself, but her kids wouldn’t do it.
It is actually misogyny – coming from other women.
I never buy that excuse, no matter how difficult your ex is if you don’t see or talk to your kids that’s on you. My ex and his family made life miserable but I love my kids. I notice it’s mostly men who pull that crap and it just shows how easily they disconnect from their kids.
I’m not crazy about Kate but for all his whining about reality shows now he is on one and going to tabloids just to trash his kids mom. I doubt he is putting money aside from this circus for them because he is so selfish. I think maybe she had to become relentless and insane to keep eight kids afloat considering the dormant apathetic slug they had for a dad.
Is chivalry dead?
Its not polite, gentlemanly or upper class for a man to talk this way about his wife, ex-wife, or any other woman.
I think it’s only fair. She seems to trash him as well. They both just need to STFU, and do wha’t right for their children. That’s all!
Upper class? Seriously? It’s OK to trash your ex if you’re middle or lower class? LOL!!!
No, its not okay….talk about twisting my words. Good grief.
They are both pieces of sh*t!!!
It’s ridiculous for him to call her narcissistic and then talk about how he’s spent 2 years writing a book about his emotions. Who thinks the world wants to pay them money to talk all about their feelings? A narcissist. Yeesh.
These people have zero self respect. Jon’s such an idiot that he doesnt even see how the media manipulates him into making negative stories about himself.
Team Kate. Not saying she is perfect but Jon is the biggest idiot ever. He is throwing a temper tantrum like a child, on national tv. And what does he expect? He sold Kate out for cash, resorting to dumpster diving in her trash can, selling her garbage, and selling personal information off her hard drive? OF course she sued you, you idiot!
Can’t get much lower than that.
Vindictive baby he is. God can you imagine if he got togther with the SWF queen Leann Rimes??? Oh the vindictive crap they would conjure up together would be amazing!
Ooooo… I’d pay to see a Leanne-Kate showdown. Well, maybe not pay. But that would be epic.
I’d put my money on Kate, she’s (functionally) a single mother to 8 kids. I bet she is indestructible at this point. The wild card in that battle would be Leann’s crazy! We all know Leann has been holding back on her crazy (which is a scary thought considering how utterly insane that SWF hoe is)
Comments like that, about an Ex, only show people how much you are NOT over the situation and have not moved on.
I’m sure Kate does play passive-aggressive games and does what she can to get Jon’s goat. That being said, apparently Kate has primary custody and Jon doesn’t pay child support, but he does get visitation. IMO, he’s lucky to get to see the kids but instead of doing that he’s off filming this embarrassing reality show, while publicly trash talking his kid’s mother. I wonder, will the kids see a dime of the money Jon makes from this show? Doubt it.
I realize that people don’t like Kate, I don’t find her appealing, she seems like a real piece of work. But, I can not see how Jon is any better than Kate when he doesn’t even support his own kids he purposely had with this woman. There is nothing stopping this guy from going back to school, as he does not have primary custody, getting a degree and getting a steady job… other than not wanting to provide better support for his kids. JMO.
Ugh! These people!! My ex and I have had many differences but NEVER in front of our son. He is always first. I would never trash my ex in such a way that my son would hear about it or read it for goodness sake. Those poor poor children.
Those poor kids have literally nowhere to turn. I feel so sorry for them. John is a tacky, self-serving, hypocritical excuse for a man, and Kate can best be summed up by pointing out her unpleasant, shrewish face: She is a perfect exemplar of the old adage, “By 40 everyone has the face they deserve,” only she’d settled into that mean-looking face long before forty. I truly feel sorry and concerned for those eight kids, who are at the mercy of two apparently merciless parents.
He’s pretty much saying what most of us are thinking, but why are we still paying attention to them? 2009 is over.
He never should have said it, but I really can understand the outburst. Kate is a raging pathological and abusive narcissist and he still bears the scars of living with her. He can’t get away from her because he’s trying to protect his kids as best he knows how. She is doing her best to block his access to his children and to brainwash or bribe or scare them into going along with her. She really is evil. Many men would have just given up by now. I think Jon is out of his depth trying to deal with her, it must be so frustrating. I hope he gets the help he needs to maintain his sanity and be as effective as possible in the struggle. Which starts with keeping his mouth shut even while exploding on the inside…
Judging from the comment, most people here are more upset that a man would say such horrible things to a woman, not that he was driven to say such things by years of abuse, and I think had the roles been reversed and Kate had been driven to a breakdown by an emotionally abusive husband who stole her kids and continued to parade them on TV like some sort of trained pets, most of you on here would be leaping to defend her, harsh words or not.
But we live in a society where only men are recognized as abusers.
Because that’s what Kate is. An abusive spouse. Granted it’s emotional abuse, (Although I’d be willing to bet that off camera she threw things at him and hit him) but abuse is what it is, and she’s an abusive person.
You all just can’t relate because Jon’s a man and men are the abusers in our society and aren’t recognized as battered spouses, even though they are the abused in almost 50 percent of the time.
So he cursed out his wife on a shitty cable TV program. Who cares! He wasn’t in front of them, or his wife. The issue is not what he said, but why he was driven to say it.
The kids are all under ten, no? Did they even see the show? I doubt it, that is until Kate probably showed it to them with her crocodile tears, crying “look at how horrible your father is.”
Wow that’s the way to be. Wishing another human death. He obviously has never experienced the loss of someone that is irreplaceable. Which they would both be to their children. What a fkn idiot. Anything she may be, he is worse. If they do not get their shit together, their children will write BOTH of them off in the future. Good luck to them both.
From what I understand, he exploded because his ex-wife is trying to block his access to his kids – refusing to let him talk to them on the phone, refusing to let him go to the door to pick them up for visits (he has to wait at the end of a long driveway which they have to walk down to meet him), constantly bad-mouthing him to the kids, and so on. While I don’t think he should have said anything in front of cameras, I understand his frustration.
Someone here wrote “If you don’t see your kids, that’s on you…”. Wrong. Sure, there are some fathers who walk away from their kids, but there are also custodial parents (usually mothers) who do everything they can to alienate the kids from their father. I have been practising family law for over twenty years and I have, sadly, met more than my share of parental alienators. Everybody talks about deadbeat dads; nobody talks about the mother who refuses to answer the door or the phone when her ex tries to exercise his visiting and access right, or, more commonly, brainwashes the kids against their father in a hundred ways, both overt and subtle.
Sure, the father can go back to court, but it’s difficult to win against alienators, partly because they’re devious (“The kids decided, on their own, that they didn’t want anything to do with their dad – I never said anything to them!”) and partly because courts do not, in my opinion, take this issue seriously enough. Every time the father returns to court, it costs him thousands of dollars in legal fees – unless he is rich, his savings and credit get depleted very quickly.
Now she doesn’t need to fking die, we know he was just frustrated with her when he said that but I’m suuuure she’s is a piece of shiiet!