It’s good to parcel out the Angelina Jolie. Maybe we can get a week’s worth of stories from Angelina’s ELLE cover interview. I covered the first excerpt and some photos yesterday – Angelina talking about her “misinterpreted” (I would say willfully misinterpreted) early 20s. The Hedi Slimane photos are so badass – ELLE released a few more, and I think I’m in love with the full-body shot of Angelina laughing. Anyway, as I said, ELLE has released more from the cover story. Here you go:
On what she used to think her life would be like…
“I never thought I’d have children, I never thought I’d be in love, I never thought I’d meet the right person,” Jolie says. “Having come from a broken home—you kind of accept that certain things feel like a fairy tale, and you just don’t look for them.”On how her relationship with Pitt has evolved over the past eight years…
“You get together and you’re two individuals and you feel inspired by each other, you challenge each other, you complement each other, drive each other beautifully crazy. After all these years, we have history—and when you have history with somebody, you’re friends in such a very real, deep way that there’s such a comfort, and an ease, and a deep love that comes from having been through quite a lot together.”On casting her daughter Vivienne in Maleficent…
For young Aurora, they needed a child who wouldn’t be fazed by the Mistress of All Evil hissing “I don’t like children” in her face. “And my little Vivienne—we call her my shadow, because there’s nothing I can do to shake her. I can be tired, I can be grumpy, I can be in a terrible mood, and she doesn’t care. It’s ‘Mommy, Mommy,’ and she’ll cling to me,” Jolie says. “We knew that she would still do that thing, she’d still smile at me and insist that I pick her up. So we couldn’t really cast anybody else.”How she and Pitt feel about the kids getting into show business…
Pax and nine-year-old Zahara (or ZZ, as Jolie calls her) also appear in the film, in cameos in the christening/cussing scene. (No Shiloh, however. “I asked Shiloh about being Aurora, and she laughed in my face,” Jolie says, with evident pride. “She said she’d be a horned creature.”) But don’t expect a repeat engagement. “Brad and I made the decision that we wouldn’t keep them from sets and the fun of making movies, but we wouldn’t [glorify it either]—we wouldn’t make it a good thing or a bad thing. But I would really prefer they do something else,” she says. Anyway, “after two days of it, Brad and I were so stressed we never wanted to do it again.”
This is a full meal of Brangeloonie revelations, isn’t it? First, the p0rn: she and Brad are in love, it’s a fairy tale (although she would never have looked for it), they drive each other crazy, but their love is deep, profound and a love with a shared history. Unf.
Then all of the stuff with the kids… I’m dying!! Zahara is “ZZ”? Vivienne is My Shadow? Adorable. And Shiloh would never want to be a princess, she would only want to play a horned creature. So much of Shiloh’s ‘tude reminds me of Angelina’s youth too. I think Shiloh is going to have some difficult years (the teens and early 20s), but she’ll come out of it very strong, like Angie. And just the idea of Viv clinging to her mom… Brangeloonie Heaven!
Photos courtesy of Hedi Slimane for ELLE.
Yes. True Brangeloonie heaven, thank you ever so much, Kaiser!!
I love this!
She’s so marvelous.
Happy Thursday, everyone, and Kaiser–do keep the Angie stories coming!
🙂
I have never been a Brangeloonie. Ever. But I really think I am becoming one. I feel like Angie has opened up over the last year or so Nd dammit, I really like her.
I have never been an Angie fan or one of Pitt fans either.
But again, I can relate to her so much now (not in the showbiz part of course…) that I am becoming a fan 🙂
And the ‘laughing’ pic is awesome!
I second it all! I am a bit of a Brangeloonie 🙂
Just stopped by to say all this, Frida, Kimmy and DrM ^^. Thanks, Kaiser.
said it before and I’ll say it again.
Shiloh sounds like a HOOT. a “horned creature”? just awesome.
Do you watch Fargo? (Is that where the ‘hoot’ came from?)
nope… actually, I should say “nope, not YET” because I plan to catch up via OnDemand.
Don’t know where I picked it up, but it was a LONG time ago…I remember saying it about one of my nieces who was a handful as a toddler, and she’s driving now. (yikes.)
You should watch. I’m just getting into it, but Billy Bob is a consummate villain. He is quietly composed evil incarnate.
You can get past his hair and face? (Billy Bob effed up the thing he had going for him)
The look works for the character. He’s the type of person, in the role, who makes your skin crawl.
I think Shiloh embodies all of Angie’s headstrong individualism, and is like the karmic payback for her own days as a young hellion.
I love that it says Ang is obviously proud of Shiloh’s badass attitude. Love this family!
I just finished reading the Willow Smith article and was thinking the same thing! I get the feeling these guys have more common sense though … I’m hoping they will create some limits despite (or perhaps because of) their wealth & priviledge
It’s so apparent that Angie is present in her children’s lives. Wonderful insights – she knows her children. Sincere kudos to her.
+1 That’s the impression I get as well.
It’s interesting that she says she never thought she’d have kids and now has 6. This makes me happy for some reason. She seems like she is really settled and loves being a mother.
Great cover on Elle.
I honestly never thought I’d marry or have kiss either. I saw a lot of bad relationships and never thought I’d get something different.
But I’ve been married for 4 years now and we have a gorgeous one year old. I couldn’t be happier
Aww that’s nice to read from the both of you! I like these type of experiences.
Those photos, she’s gorgeous.
And I love the stories about her kids, so cute.
God she is so beautiful!! I really love these photos especially the top one. She looks even more beautiful laughing.
I completely get what she means & Joe she describes what she and Brad have.. Other than the kids (we have none).. But 19 years with my hubby, I never thought I’d be married, yet alone have something so real and profound with another person.
Those kids are adorable! I could listen to Angelina (or read) stories They share about their kids..
She really is lovely. Now I hesitate to add this ………………..her thighs are photoshopped, right? Please tell me they are photo shopped because the alternative prospect (that her legs are really that stick thin) worries me abit.
Actually they’re probably photo shopped to look BIGGER. (because the idea of photoshopping is to make something look better). That’s what has always struck me about Jolie since her early days – not that she’s so “beautiful” but her weird-looking body takes so much away from that.
P.S. So that is P0rn to you, what she said about Brad? It is so generic and boring. If anyone else said the same thing about their S.O. you would have yawned, or said how vanilla. Doesn’t sound “deep or profound” at all.
The Jolie is breathtaking. Gorgeous. So beautiful, I just…can’t. Gahhh!
I always wonder when i see people laughing in such shoots,like did they make themselves laugh or someone cracked a joke. lol
I always wonder the same thing. Do they laugh by themselves or does someone crack a joke.
She looks amazing in that first picture.
I agree about being with someone for a long time, you have history and it’s a special thing to stick with the same person even when things aren’t that great.
I need to go buy this. Dang. I read she says Shiloh “has a half pipe,” and I’m thinking her own halfpipe? Whoa. I bet they can get Tony Hawk or Shaun White to just come over and give lessons anytime. Lol lucky kid
Skateboarding is kind of becoming a thing again–at least where I live. No one really did it when I was a kid, but now I see teenage boys riding their skateboards at my local middle school.
Still can’t get over how awesome this shoot is, I haven’t bought Elle magazine since 2008, I’m definitely getting this one.
And her relationship with Vivienne is too cute.
Face is glorious as usual. Also she’s made for pencil skirts and skinny jeans. This pics are stunning but then what do you have to do really? She’s point, shoot and click ready.
So true, she looks amazing. Love the pics.
I don’t care what some people say – I love this woman and the way she lives her life.
Angelina is a prime example of how people evolve in their lives – during her teens and 20s she experimented and tried to find out who she really is. End of 20s she found out who she is and has since then achieved great things in life – encouraging, supporting and loving partner, 6 happy children with different personalities, award winning career, universally praised for her humanitarian work and for the way she has made the world acknowledge wartime rapes as war crimes, loyal and true friendships with women and men who are equally strong.
What I like and admire most about Angelina is the fact that she never responds to haters in any way and just lives her life the way she wants to. She never bitches about other females and just tries to help others who need it. She doesn’t claim that she is a girl’s girl and judges someone for the friendships they supposedly have.
PS: I cannot wait for Maleficent to come out. Angelina has always played strong female characters and this character seems to be the same way. I predict this movie will pass the 1 billion mark globally and my Brangeloonie flag will wave is pride then.
I just ignore them these days Sal – they are all hypocrites that it is not even funny anymore. They critize us for arguing against them but then they themselves have no problem is attacking us and calling us with names.
I read some of their comments yesterday and about how I am not here that much anymore etc. As I said I just ignore them and skip their posts. Since my mother passed away a month ago I simply don’t care about people attacking me or talking bad about me. They are simply not worth the time.
These days I am just reading the articles, leaving my comments and just ignore those I don’t like.
@Maya …
I don’t know how I missed this post. I’m so sorry for your loss. My mother passed away in 2011 and I’m still feeling the loss. You are in my thoughts and prayers, sweetheart.
Maya, sorry about your mother.
@Maya (waves at Sal), who wrote: “I just ignore them these days Sal – they are all hypocrites that it is not even funny anymore. They critize us for arguing against them but then they themselves have no problem is attacking us and calling us with names. ”
They’re just ‘Bitter Barbs’ … a wonderful term coined by Aurora on the first “Elle/Angie” post here yesterday. She said it in response to someone carping about Angie ‘hopping from man to man,’ and suggested people saying such things needed to update their ‘bitter barbs. ‘ I think it’s a great ‘double entendre’ in that it can mean both what they say and ‘why’ they say it. 🙂
@Ferris & Sal: Thank you for your condolences.
Maya cosign! Angie is authentic. Besides all the things you said, I love her perfect (queen-like) posture…chin up. Its like she has her professional armour on. Girl crush!
She is so phony. She wants everyone to believe she’s got a perfect life and I just don’t buy it. Brad always looks miserable and she Clearly has an eating disorder. I guarentee all those pap pics of her and the kids are staged.
All what pap pics with the kids? We barely see the kids or Angelina.
There were ALL kinds of staged pap pictures from Australia to show with her “big directing gig” it didn’t get in the way of being a big mama. This being the Brangeloonie channel website you must surely have seen some of them.
Whoa Big Hairy Balls. I don’t know about an eating disorder but she’s the size of what some models used to look like. Her legs looks the same size as Cara Delevingne. I know AJ used to not always be this skinny and I think that’s why some people are assuming she has an eating disorder.
Look at Nicole Ritchie her body wasn’t meant to be that small and that’s why she looks off. Now if you look at someone like Zoe Saldana who is also very slim it looks ok because she is naturally that size.
I think the only reason she looks heavier in her early years was baby fat on her cheeks. The rest of her body was always really skinny. I remember reading how hard it was for her to put on weight and muscle for tomb raider…. It was months of training plus a lot of protein. I really think this is her natural state.
I agree that her face defintely got thinner but so did her body, though not by much. Angie today is smaller than she was when she was a teen. Look at her in the skirt from yesterday’s post, there is a small difference in the size of her thighs. There is a difference between being skinny and looking frail. I do however, think she looks better recently than she did awhile ago. She got her gorgeous back.
http://www.celebitchy.com/364655/angelina_jolie_covers_elle_discusses_the_misinterpreted_tumult_of_her_early_20s/
Now look at this much younger pic of her.
http://www.grated.com/20-pics-of-angelina-jolie-like-you-havent-seen-her-in-forever/9/
Compare this one to the above pic, there is a difference. IMO she did lose a bit of body weight as well.
http://www.grated.com/20-pics-of-angelina-jolie-like-you-havent-seen-her-in-forever/10/
Okay, nowhere does she say she’s got a perfect life. I remember when I first became an Angie fan in 2005, I would read such comments or worse and would doubt my love for her. Almost 10 years later, such comments just make me laugh. It seems even funnier that 10 years from now the naysayers will be spouting the same things. Damn, that will be 20 years of saying the same things or for the FF crowd excessively hating a stranger.
IA, Jess. The BIs about her have mostly subsided, but she was apparently an addict for a loooong time after becoming a mother and there is no way she maintains that extreme level of skinniness without “help.”
She always talked about adoption. So yes I see what she means. I think they are very connected and happy together. It is a wonderful thing to find that other person that you feel you belong with.
Loonie flag waving very proudly..
Hope to see them at the London Premier. They work a carpet like no one else.
She’s the best… and I sometimes I wonder if I’ll ever have children, too. We’ll see!
Soo we are Changing the banners and T-shirts to #QueenZZRulerOfTheUniverse Or Nah??
I know what she means with that whole when your stuff is unstable and you havent seen good modeled, you think is not for you cause that is kinda how I feel about kids and marriage, Both cause im super lazy and lone wolfy but also cause : no Thanks, Ive seen it and IT sucks
@QQ, who wrote: “Soo we are Changing the banners and T-shirts to #QueenZZRulerOfTheUniverse Or Nah??”
I vote for the t-shirts ‘and’ #QueenZZRulerOfTheUniverse!
And she never thought she’s hook up with a married man
BALLS coming your way!
i stand by my comment , she is a home wrecker and she should have been smarter about it because a man that cheats with you will eventually cheat on you .
Well, seeing as how there are such examples as Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson who are still together after over 20 years, I think Brad and Angie can make it work. After all, Tom left his wife for Rita. Oh yeah, there was also Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward before that and they were together till he died. I’m sure there are other examples and non-HW ones too. Life is not black and white.
Tom H. was linked with Amanda Seyfried on the DL btw.
Twice!
yep
Pls pls pls,don’t turn this beautiful and interesting thread into that triangle mess.If you love the triangle so much,give it a few weeks you’ll be talking about it soon.I think she said something about screaming in the ocean in this interview, that’s bound to give star mag at least 50 headlines, of which Kaiser will be covering 3.
Just be patient.
Too late for that Kay AJ’s publicist already has.
Oh please, as if Sal is the one who brought it up. Funny how you seem to excuse yourself from contributing to the conversation.
@Mr and Mrs Smith, who wrote: “Oh please, as if Sal is the one who brought it up. Funny how you seem to excuse yourself from contributing to the conversation. ”
I agree with you. It’s called ‘instigation’ via Bitter Barbs.
Bitter BALLS!!!!!!
you really believe that Sal ? they both admitted to their affaire during the shooting of MAMS
Sorry ‘Jonb’ that’s bull. The shooting of MAMS went on for more than a year, with both Angie and Brad stopping to promote other films and even shoot scenes for them, they reconvened in late winter. The director on one of the dvds said they were still shooting some scenes (therapist’s office) in may and described his rushing film “wet” to the premiere which was held on june 4th 2005. What does that mean? It’s obvious: anuston and Pitt were rumored to be over as far back as fall of 2004 they officially split in Jan 2005 with a combined press statement, MAMS would still be shooting 5 months later. So yes they probably were together when still shooting Mams- most people say they got together spring of 2005. Point is aniston and Pitt had been thru by that time…and Brad was moving on.
Go Sal. I like how you don’t back down from stating your views.
Wow … there certainly are a lot of Bitter Barbs flying here today.
I prefer the word Jenhens or Henettes. … Women cackling about Jolie, too lazy to check their facts, transparent women always projecting their insecurities onto the Brad and Angie coupledom, a relationship that obviously took a lot of hard work , trust and respect to make it this far.
A family of eight is NEVER easy.
Oh who cares?! Why is everyone so judgmental. The word “homewrecker” seems so outdated and sort of sexist to me. Brad obviously wanted out of his marriage and made his own decisions. People’s lives (both celeb and non-celeb) are not always picture-perfect and sometimes relationships are messy and complicated. It’s life. I’m not even a huge fan of Brad and Angelina (sort of neutral on them), but the fact that they’ve been together 8 years and are happy with 6 kids says it all to me. The circumstances that started their relationship is water under the bridge at this point.
wow this woman is stunning… and her interviews are interesting to read! Pff.. I’m jelly 🙂
Read the whole interview and it was good. I liked what she said about living a full life.
Those SHOES.
I want.
And I know what she means about her shadow–when my nephew was a toddler, he used to follow my sister around ALL THE TIME–no matter what. Babies don’t want their mother when she’s in a good mood; they want her all the time.
got a very similar pair, but the platform part in front isn’t quite as much…maybe 2/3 or 1/2.
and they’re awesome – I feel so tall when I wear them and they’re actually a LOT easier to walk in than they look.
of course, my legs will NEVER look like hers but the shoes help…lol
Mine won’t either, I’m short, but I do look a lot better in them.
IM GOING TO BE SWOONING FOR MANY MANY MONTHS
Whoa! She looks badass! This suit was tailor made for her! Angie is a gorgeous woman. What an interesting read.
She is so beautiful. I love that she has found happiness. Now, bring on the wedding. 🙂
NOpe. They won’t ever be getting married. That was for publicity for some movie or another.
“I asked Shiloh about being Aurora, and she laughed in my face,” – Shiloh really is the coolest kid!
I know I will catch hell for this buuuttt……I did feel the magazine spread as a married couple with kids (was it W) ??? that they did RIGHT AFTER the news of them together- idk that seemed insensitive. I just know as a woman I wouldn’t have done that. And then the pics of them on the beach with her son soon followed…. I still say they hooked up (and got pregnant) when he was still “involved” with ending his marriage. Grant it his marriage was over but it would have crushed me on some level. I just feel that she is so adamant about hating her father for what he did to her mother and that (in some way) she repeated his behavior. I do love her and think they are well matched. Just initially I thought how they both behaved was wrong.
What Sal said–basically the photoshoot was supposed to be an entirely different initial concept i.e. not take place in the sixties, but Brad P. hated it, and so he changed it to the Sixties–when families on the outside looked perfect–you had the young, good looking husband who made a ton of money, the hot, thin wife (after four kids), they believed in God, they had a nice house, four kids–their life looked perfect. Until you saw that the wife was always drinking, and the husband was abusive–when they were alone.
I thought the photoshoot was very beautiful and very well done–very interesting. I can see how it would be insensitive to JA, but it’s not like they chose to do the photoshoot–it was to promote MAMS–a study of marriage. And AJ got pregnant in like September or October 2005….months after they separated.
Oh I STILL have the magazine. LOL!! I loved the pictures and the theory behind the work. I was just thinking about it/comparing it to this story. 🙂
I’m not comparing her to anyone (Aniston) just an observation. And she did the same to Laura Dern. I mean that was just completely insensitive. Let’s be real. It’s just interesting to me because she’s very vocal about what her father did to her mother. No hate. Just my opinion. 🙂
@pnichols
I hadn’t heard this before, so I was pretty curious. I googled, and this is what I came up with–first off, BBT and Angelina got married May 22, 2000. They were a couple by April, with Billy Bob going straight from Laura Dern to Angelina–at least officially. They confirmed their breakup April 6 (so I’m going to say they had broken up a few months before that, bc breakups, celeb-wise or otherwise, aren’t just sudden), and by the 7th Angelina had that God awful tattoo of BBT’s name on her arm. Maybe they announced because she had that stupid tattoo, it’s a possibility.
Also–while they were filming Pushing Tin, Angelina was apparently with Timothy Hutton (no clue who he is), and then got with BBT–while also separated from Johnny Lee. Apparently she pushed her divorce forward quicker so she and BBT could get married.
Oh grasshopper, I had to chuckle at your Timothy Hutton comment. Back in the days of films like “The Falcon and the Snowman” and “Turk 182!”, and “Iceman”, Hutton was quite something, and for a while after that as well. He’s not a bad actor, imo and I enjoyed his movies. Dunno what he’s like in reality. Anyway, just my two cents after drop down the rabbit hole of 80s films…
@pnichols, who wrote: “I still say they hooked up (and got pregnant) when he was still “involved” with ending his marriage.”
Shiloh Jolie-Pitt was born on May 27, 2006 … one or one week before her delivery date (in the first week of June) by cesarean section. The indisputable math surrounding Shiloh’s birth disproves the common notion that Angie got pregnant ‘before’ Jennifer Aniston filed for divorce, thereby ensnaring Brad (who desperately wanted kids) and ‘forcing’ Jen to file while she and Brad were trying to work things out, ruining Jen’s life and happiness in the process.
Jennifer filed for divorce in March 2005. Any discussion, decisions, or attempts to ‘save’ the Aniston-Pitt marriage were over by then (because she filed). Doing the math, the earliest Angie could have conceived Shiloh is early September 2005, six (6) months after Jen filed for divorce. I hope this helps.
Again @pnichols, who wrote: “Grant it his marriage was over but it would have crushed me on some level. ”
I would have been crushed by news of a pregnancy with my ex-husband and his new squeeze if I had desperately wanted kids and he’d put it off with one excuse after another during our marriage. But honestly, that didn’t really seem to be the case with Jennifer and Brad. He was always gushing about having kids–a family–to any Media source who’d listen. She reluctantly told Diane Sawyer (who knew about Brad’s enthusiastic desire for kids) that she could see them having a child, and maybe another one to keep ‘it’ company. How crushed could she have been?
Again @pnichols, who wrote: “And she did the same to Laura Dern. I mean that was just completely insensitive. Let’s be real.”
Okay, let’s ‘be’ real. Laura Dern went after Billy Bob Thornton while he was still married, and broke up his marriage. Billy Bob has stated that he and Dern weren’t together ‘or’ engaged when he and Angie hooked up. And then Laura Dern proceeded to get involved with her (now ex) husband, who was still married. In fact, his wife and Dern were pregnant at the same time, and his wife ‘still’ hadn’t filed for divorce.
And there is a difference between ‘attacking’ someone and providing information. I’m not mad or foaming at the mouth … just passing long information.
I appreciate the information. I’ve always been a fan of hers before they (she and Brad) got together. I guess I just know that I myself would have been sad ya know. LOL. I’m just a baby. 🙂 hahaha!!
Boy you sure do acrobatic back flips to make bad behavior seem OK, don’t you, Emma? Anybody that gets pregnant while newly dating someone who is separated is jumping the gun a bit, doncha think? It’s just a bad idea to do it that fast ( 6 months into a relationship)
@Lena, who wrote: “Boy you sure do acrobatic back flips to make bad behavior seem OK, don’t you, Emma? Anybody that gets pregnant while newly dating someone who is separated is jumping the gun a bit, doncha think? It’s just a bad idea to do it that fast ( 6 months into a relationship)”
Am I missing something here? A married couple are ‘still’ only considered ‘separated’ until one of them files for divorce and the other one doesn’t contest it, right? Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt were only separated from January 7, 2005 until March 25, 2005 when Jennifer Aniston filed for divorce. If they were ‘merely separated’ after Jen filed for divorce in March 2005, how do you explain her relationship with Vince Vaughn, which began in July 2005?
Thank you for being sane in your criticism. A few facts. The W shoot was supposed to be Jolie only, Pitt wanted in and had some artistic ideas. That’s why aniston weighed in in her sobbing vanity fair tell all that he was missing a sensitivity chip. But then she added he probably thought it was for arts sake not doing it to hurt her. Why I don’t appreciate aniston is that she’s a phony. Thats some bullshite right there. Why would the photo shoot hurt her when pitt had already said its best they go on and separate like they planned because he had feelings for angelina. She’s told the world by this point their marriage was over, that it wasn’t due to a third party, that they were ending things anyway regardless and that they were friends with love in their hearts blah blah…she said all this despite hearing from Brad that he had become enamored of angelina. Both she and Brad say the whole ‘split because she didn’t want kids’ was malarkey too. So IF all that’s true…she’s essentially saying she didn’t want brad and angie doing press and photo shoots together because of how it would be perceived. She didn’t want to look bad. Pitt was in a film about a married couple on the outs, the film shoot mirrored the same thing, it was an unfortunate circumstance that instead of officially splitting earlier than Jan 2005, they waited and the movie and their split seemed to go together…the truth is brad was being put on the defensive for saying they might not make it before he even met angie, on Oprah while promoting Troy.
I like Angelina but what is this I never thought I would fall in in love BS. She was in love with her first two husbands. Go back and read interviews when she was married to BBT she did love him. I know that she loves Brad now and he is the love of her life. But lets not rewrite history.
I don’t think she’s rewriting history–I think she’s talking about the period in her life, after her second marriage to Billy Bob ended, AFTER she adopted Maddox. Maybe she was worried about finding someone (eventually), who would love her AND her child(ren) equally. I know I’d be worried (and wary) about dating people, especially after being married twice by 25, AND having a kid in the mix.
Also–she might care and (platonically) love Billy Bob and Johnny Lee now, but they were divorced. She was alone. They weren’t together anymore.
Where did you get that from? She said she would never find love because she came from a broken home. She did love though. I’m just saying her quotes here are kind of weird.
eta: ““I never thought I’d have children, I never thought I’d be in love, I never thought I’d meet the right person,” Jolie says. “Having come from a broken home—you kind of accept that certain things feel like a fairy tale, and you just don’t look for them.”
Then maybe she’s saying that she settled with Johnny Lee and Billy Bob. I’m looking at her comments as someone looking back at her entire life, and stopping right when she became a single mother, and wondering where would she go from there. Because none of her relationships/marriages lasted more than two or three years up until she got with Brad…….so I can see her thinking that she would never find longevity, as well as love.
After her divorce with BBT, she turned to JLM for comfort and support (her own admission). She was also spotted kissing him and cuddling him in 2004 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ToN0kuDJUs which probably means he was one of her ‘lovers’ back then but the fact that she said that divorcing him was the dumbest thing she ever did + the reconciliation rumours indicates there was something more.
@Artemis
I knew they were still boning after she left BBT. I guess they didn’t want the same things (he doesn’t have six kids), and they were smart enough to stay friends (with benefits), than to try and make things work–knowing that they didn’t want the same things. But I do know that they’ve always been really good friends. I remember right after she got with Brad (bc of the date it was in late 2005/early 2006) that she did some charity thing with him–it was his charity, but she was helping him out–I just saw a video and he asked her if the camera could still be on and she said it was fine, and they kissed cheeks.
I like when people are grown up enough to still be friends after you break up. Obviously there are some exceptions, but I like that some people can do that. I would hope I could do the same.
Well Pitt and Jolie wanted a football team and they don’t have it. Some things aren’t realistic. They had 6 kids in 6 years, for people who travel all the time, I can see how some people don’t find that to be very realistic considering their jobs can keep them apart. Tbh, I would find it a bit nuts if a man said he wanted to have a football team and travel the world. Regardless of money.
Yeah, they have ‘worked together’ since she got with Brad. I still he and Jolie were the best 🙂
@Artemis
I never took the football team of kids seriously–I thought it was euphemism for a ton of kids. But I do remember an interview where she said they wanted between seven and fourteen kids–right after they brought Pax home, I think. But I also read something where they had their hands full with six and weren’t going to have more…which I think if they were going to have more, they would’ve by now.
And yes–Johnny Lee is hot.
My 6 in 6 quote was wrong btw, I don’t know what I was thinking. Tired as f-ck…
They did want more than 6 but then the twins came and they didn’t expect the twins to be twins so I think that factored in them maybe not wanting more kids. They’re still young though so who knows.
JLM is FINE….mmm 😀
I do not think she is contradicting herself. Shre probably did think that real love was not for her. I bet that wneh she married she thought it was for real, as many have done, but as a child of divorce, there is always doubts and insecurities.
The JLM and the BBT marriages, while in love, she was most probably looking for family stability, which has to come from self confidence. With BBT she was the rockstar wife pleasing her husband, as she said, she was not comfortable with somethings, she did to please him.
She found her inner peace I think more when she became a mom, and from then on, her happiness derived from a more mature point of view.
If Brad’s marriage was in the gutter, and he was leaving anyway, why not wait and see if they were fit to form a family with children with AJ? He was probably very sure of what he wanted, he himself said that he chose the best mother he could for his children. Some people should be happy for JA, she was not in a happy relationship anymore.
Sh*t happens and I am glad that such a beautiful family came out of that.
JA has had plenty of opportunities to rebuild her life, she lives in the land of handsome millionaires ,she moves in good circles, but she has chosen bad specimens (Mayer, anyone) for years, or she plainly does not want a long term relationship. Good that she is with the tiny hipster, whichever way she got him.
@MsMercury, who wrote: “I like Angelina but what is this I never thought I would fall in in love BS. She was in love with her first two husbands.”
She’s not rewriting history, she’s talking about the affect her childhood, coming from a broken home, had on her. When she was ‘young’ (before any of her lovers/husbands) she never thought she would fall in love because of what she’d witnessed between her mother and father. When she was ‘young’ she decided she didn’t want to have children because of what she’d witnessed between her mother and father. But it’s surprising how finding the right person can change your life. 🙂
She may a loved her first two husbands, but I think she meant that never thought she woud meet the love of her life, her soulmate, and be together as a family. Ten years together is like 25 in Hollywood, and obviously she feels like her love with Brad is real and forever…
I don’t know if I consider it contradicting herself, but I did find it confusing. I think Angelina is the type of person who’s always fallen in love. She had a boyfriend living in her bedroom at the age of fourteen or fifteen because her mom supported that relationship.
She doesn’t say, “After my high school boyfriend, I never thought I would fall in love”, or “After my first divorce, I didn’t think I would fall in love”, or “After my second divorce, I didn’t think I would fall in love”. The quote implies that she had never fallen in love or even believed she could before Brad. I’m going with the quote being out of context. I’ll even buy that she feels love is even deeper when you parent with the man you love. That’s not what this quote is implying.
Angelina also was cutting herself around that time (14/15 yr old bf) because she said she was having sex and didn’t feel anything or what she was supposed to feel emotionally and cutting made her feel things and feel more alive. Yet you’re citing this as Angelina having fallen in love at 14? Yeah ok. Lolol its not so hard to figure out, she had a young mom who she adored who got thrown over and abandoned….she figured if she cant find love how will i? I think that scared her so much she tried to MAKE it happen, hence the early marriages, and bloodletting symbolism. Like the cutting, blood was deep and proof she thought that the connection was intense and real. She found out later it wasn’t. She had just wanted to make it so – thought she could create it. She’s an honest woman who speaks of her life honestly – it’s all there. So it’s weird some women are getting bent out of shape because she says what anuston could not, that Brad Pitt is the love of her life. Sad to see the team Aniston freaks still aren’t over it. Lol
Does anyone know if there is a website that will release all of her covers. Or will it be these photos and they are using them for the international issues.
Russia and The Netherlands issues have covers from this shoot. The Netherlands issue has teh same picture from the US with the title TEAM JOLIE lol
The Russia cover has another picture
http://www.elle.nl/var/ellenl/storage/images/lifestyle/lifestylenieuws/exclusief-in-elle-angelina-jolie-doet-een-boekje-open/3956633-2-eng-GB/Exclusief-in-ELLE-Angelina-Jolie-doet-een-boekje-open_home_focus.jpg
http://n1s2.hsmedia.ru/36/50/e3/3650e3c9bf96437530856451d8556615/690x879_1_759f3c3503080f86a4c5de60b5b9ec3d@1270x1618_0xd42ee42a_7452481071399482755.jpeg
I like her, but these over-gushing perfect little life interviews annoy me. With any celenrity.
Plus, people who worship her make her threads really hard to read.
This is exactly how I feel. In the abstract, I like Angie. But whenever I read one of these threads where her superfans salivate about how she’s OMG THE MOST PERFECT CREATURE TO EVER LIVE, I end up liking her less. It’s obviously not her fault she has such rabid fans, but there you go — it’s the same reason people got irritated with JLaw or Hiddleston or whoever else.
Esti, you and I together. Angelina has everything that is supposed to make me like her a lot (beauty, compassion, intelligence). A few of her rabid fans (not only here but on another site as well) just prevent that. I still have respect, but not more than other accomplished people (including some other actors).
My feelings exactly.
The reasons why she has super fans is because she has super haters.
The viciousness of the attacks on this women has been something to behold, not just on blogs but in the main stream media as well.
The main stream media salivated for years about her&Brad breaking up, so much so that they fell for the ‘News of the World'(british newspaper) lie that they were divorcing when they were not even married.Shows how stupid the media is.
Where is the ‘News of the World’ now.
On 60minutes she talked about drug use, on Celebitchy where the bloggers constantly wrote that she was a heroin addict, suddenly they were screaming ‘how dare she say she took drugs, she merely dabbled, she didn’t really take drugs.
Never mind all the people who wanted her to miscarry her first biological child, or for her children to die in plane crashes, or Brad to leave and only take the biological children, because of course Brad Pitt having black/asian children was so problematic for them.
(@Artemis, who wrote) but it’s interesting how AJ can get away with it without gossip that her and Pitt aren’t doing fine. Most celebs who start to talk like this are accused of bragging or lying to cover up the fact that it’s not going well at all.
Is this the same Brad&Angelina that your talking about that the media have said that ever since they got together, that they are breaking up and that Brad has stalked out, Angie has stalked out and some commenters on here say they have an open relationship and are only together for the kids.
They problem with those who criticise her is that they want to stick the knife in again and again, but don’t want anyone to crticise them or try to put the record straight.
The internet is the worse place to try and stand up for anything, but when you witness the vitriol meeted out to this woman, no wonder she has superfans.
I dont care if I’m seen as a superfan, the super haters had their day, the tide is turning at long last against them.
@Gennline:
There are always break-up rumours about celebs. But when you have A-listers like AJ and BP, it’s more of a big deal. It sells. When celebs openly come out and gush about their relationship there is a skepticism that it’s not going well because why are they selling their personal lives? It’s not going to change anybody’s opinion who didn’t believe the relationship in the first place and the fans will always believe in the positive. It’s like when celebs renew their vows, same skepticism.
For instance, during her BBT years she pretended to be so happy. After the divorce she admitted that she had everything you’re supposed to have and she still wasn’t happy. Yet she sold a different picture to the outside world. She was a drug user but no pictures or stories of her acting up on set or in public. She can keep a pretty tight lid on her life for somebody who was always quite controversial.
Everybody has ‘haters’ and ‘fans’. I don’t know why you think the JPs are an exception to this rule.
I dont care if I’m seen as a superfan, the super haters had their day, the tide is turning at long last against them.
Saying I don’t care means you care. That and replying to the ‘haters’. And how is the tide turning against ‘them’ when the JP’s position is no different than other years?
That’s odd. What freaks on the Web say for her or against her aren’t going to affect how I feel. That’s one thing I don’t get when I hear it from some kooks..”yeah Jolie does a lot of good in the world and is kinda inspiring but I hate the fans that stand up for her in the face of her vicious haters, so I’m going to not like her.” Really? Are we 6 ys old? GMAFB That’s just bizarre.
It doesn’t annoy me, I mean it’s great for gossip (= non-factual analysis) but it’s interesting how AJ can get away with it without gossip that her and Pitt aren’t doing fine. Most celebs who start to talk like this are accused of bragging or lying to cover up the fact that it’s not going well at all.
I made this exact point on a different thread regarding an interview where Jolie was talking about how involved Pitt is with their kids and how much support/help she gets from him.
I thought what she said was nice because it wasn’t the “OMG OUR LIFE/MARRIAGE IS SO PERFECT AND WE NEVER FIGHT!”, but I also made the point that, if it were another part of a couple saying the same thing, the reactions wouldn’t have been so positive/glowing.
which is pretty much dead on the reason WHY some folks are fed up with the superfans…there is apparently NO criticism allowed of this couple, no matter how small or innocuous it might be. it might not even BE a criticism, but is read as such. and there are really only a few of those types here, but they make such a racket about it that they’re hard to ignore.
oh, and BALLS. 🙂
@Artemis who said
“It doesn’t annoy me, I mean it’s great for gossip (= non-factual analysis) but it’s interesting how AJ can get away with it without gossip that her and Pitt aren’t doing fine. Most celebs who start to talk like this are accused of bragging or lying to cover up the fact that it’s not going well at all. ”
A big balls up to you for that. You are definetely on point.
@doofus
Absolutely; the superfans come out in droves if someone is critical of AJ/BP. You can say what you want about any other celeb and not a peep. I think they have AJ on Google alert and stroll through her posts looking for any neagativity aimed at their idol, it’s sickening. They know this woman better than she knows herself. One of them even said they only come here to correct lies about AJ. I laughed at that. AJ has a publicist and don’t know it. Angie would run in fear if she ever came face to face with any of them.
Crazy Balls.
There are four types of people on here. The ones that just read gossip blogs, the rabid fans, the people that only spew hate, and the people that seem to think they have to defend people that spew hate. It’s entertaining.
That’s a broad generalization. I think what typically happens in Hollywood and elsewhere, is that most couples say they’re doing great until they aren’t, period. See Aniston and anybody. The public chooses to believe some couples and not others due to obvious and not so obvious signs. For instance the constant distance between aniston and tiny hipster living lives on different coasts, her not being there for him when his friend died, his missing a milestone birthday..and overall just being scarce. People see brad and Angelina and we believe their love..it seems authentic, beautiful, and constant – a no brainer.
After reading the entire interview, clearly the time apart when she filmed in AUS and Brad filmed in the UK was less than “perfect” as she mentioned in her interview. In fact, I imagine it was rather stressful since that was the first time the family had been separated by such a distance for such an extended period.
Also there is a tidbit about she and Brad having to do all sorts of silly things just to get Viv to perform on her first day because she didn’t want to cooperate.
Certainly not massive problems of the average person but that would hardly be expected for a celebrity. They are not exactly like the rest of us.
They state that Angie did not want to talk about her health concerns (and wisely so) so the interview focused on her upcoming films – Maleficient and Unbroken – and her family.
What exactly were you expecting? Her to talk about the loads of laundry, clutter and the alleged Cheetos-stained walls?
As for the fawning, well, to each their own. When anyone else is promoting they have their fawning fan bases as well.
I like the Julie Bowen aproach when talking about personal life, it seems more honest.
“As for the fawning, well, to each their own. When anyone else is promoting they have their fawning fan bases as well.” – this is sooo not true. There are many many celebrities without a fanbase, and I can hardly think of any with such rabid fans like Angelina.
I can. There are those people who bought and believed the countless tabloids about Angelina, people who still happily hate on her. There are sites devoted to hating her and it all started with the triangle. I really would have never becomes a fan if it wasn’t for all the online bullying that I read.
My background would have make me “Team aniston”, really, but the hate was awful, and really made me interested on the people receiving it… like why???
I did not find anything really worthy of such vitriol, instead I found something worthy of support.
@V4Real
They also ignore facts. Now, I hope that I am fair and balanced in my criticisms of a certain ‘Friend’. I criticize the fact that her and her fiance make zero effort to go and see each other, when one isn’t working and the other is (mostly Jennifer)—even though they have plenty of time to do so–like when Jennifer spent most of summer and fall last year (when she wasn’t filming) in LA, while Justin was filming his tv show, and HE only went down to LA when he had a break from filming his tv show. Not the other way around. Especially when it’s only a couple of hours for plane rides, and they have the $$$$$$ for it.
So I hope that that is a somewhat reasonable criticism–not even a criticism really, but wondering how their relationship is solidis when one-half won’t compromise, and they’re always apart. I can’t imagine that–that’s how I’d do him if I was only in it for the $$$$$$$$$$.
But when Angelina and Brad were 14 hours apart, both filming at the same time, the criticisms came—even after a poster provided a link that said that Universal pushed up the filming schedule of ‘Unbroken’ to coincide with the filming of ‘Fury’ because of Louis Zamperini’s health (and if that hadn’t been the case, I would’ve thought something was going on). But on all the posts after that—there was always someone saying that they weren’t together anymore because they were filming at the same time…and this was the first time that they did so.
That kind of thing bothers me–I don’t care if you don’t like them. But hate on them for a real reason–or just say that you just don’t like them. But don’t try to half ass the logic behind it.
The “hatred” towards Angelina (and Brad) only seems big in the internet. When it comes to mainstream media – try the Obamas. I don’t even think tabloids (as in printed tabloids) sell that many featuring articles about them. Yes, I don’t have the statistics, but please prove me wrong if you have numbers to counter my suggestion. And as I am saying this, I’ll happily pick the balls shot at me – pass them over to other people 😀
She was married twice before she even met brad so what’s with the I never thought I’d find love? Presumably she was in love with her ex husbands too?
I wonder if her ex’s take offense. Is she saying that she was never in love with them? Maybe she, as a young woman, was just one of those people that fall in & out of love easily.
I think she was talking about finding Love which is quite diferent from being in love with someone.
there is a big diference between being in love and love someone.
From what I can understand is that Angelina was talking about her feelings when she was in her teens and early 20s. That she never thought she will find love or have children. She doesn’t talk about only finding love with Brad nor does she say that she wasn’t in love with both of her ex-husbands.
At least she is not saying that her husband was not the love of her life like someone else we know said more than a decade ago while being married to that same husband.
@Sarah, who wrote: “She was married twice before she even met brad so what’s with the I never thought I’d find love? Presumably she was in love with her ex husbands too?”
She’s talking about how she felt when she was young, after witnessing the angst/crazy between her mother and father. She is the product of a broken home. After seeing first hand how love doesn’t work out, she never thought she’d ever be in love or want to have children. She felt this way before the lovers/husbands … you know, probably during those angsty preteen/early teen years when life, and everything in your life, is shite … double shite if your parents are divorced.
She is speaking in general terms as a child of divorce.She is not talking about Brad.She never thought she would have kids when she was young, yet she had a kid, Maddox, years before she met Brad.
She was. She always talked about them with great love and admiration during and after (well with BBT it took her a while after the divorce). You don’t marry when you think you’re not in love, especially not a woman like AJ who wouldn’t settle. Like god, can you imagine her settling with a man she wasn’t in love with? She felt married at age 16 with her first bf too. Her problem was that she was too much sometimes (the blood bonds/pacts with BOTH husbands just to prove it’s real love!) always wanting more aaaaand then she bailed because she gets bored and it wasn’t what she was looking for. Rinse and repeat.
Also, during her first marriage she sabotaged herself by losing herself in her roles and having an affair with J. Shimizu.
She was also depressed so I guess that influenced her life too but that does not negate her feeling and being in love with the men she was with. This what not a woman who wasn’t passionate about her relationships or who avoided male attention and companionship. She herself said she doesn’t walk away from things, that indicates a belief in love. She didn’t know her and Pitt would last yet they got serious pretty fast.
As for having children, she talked about adoption since she was young, before her marriages so maybe she didn’t feel good enough to become a mom but she knew she had options for sure.
@Artemis, who wrote: ” She felt married at age 16 with her first bf too. Her problem was that she was too much sometimes (the blood bonds/pacts with BOTH husbands just to prove it’s real love!) always wanting more aaaaand then she bailed because she gets bored and it wasn’t what she was looking for. Rinse and repeat.”
Billy Bob has admitted to sabotaging his marriage to Angie. In reading between the lines, it seems Angie had really started to change, especially after adopting Maddox, and sounded to me like Billy Bob kind of resented that. I think Billy Bob, like many people here, wanted Angie to remain the ‘wild child’ dangerous rebel … but she had grown up.
I know but before the adoption became official, they were growing apart. She was away for months filming and he visited her on the set just a few times. They had been effectively separated for months in a row and when she came back, it was with Maddox. I’m sure that contributed to him feeling weird about it because he didn’t fully witness her growth and Maddox probably bonded with Jolie already since he only had her as a parent. She seems like the person who can change in a heartbeat while the older BBT clearly was who he was. He also had to go on the road and spend time away from home and Jolie didn’t stop working either after Maddox. They kept going and went in different directions. I think it’s a combination of age + work commitments that kept them apart + change that did them in, not just Maddox.
@Artemis
I think it was both things that you and Emma said—not only were they apart for long periods (her working and him touring/filming), she also wasn’t just going to be his arm candy/make out partner on the rc anymore–especially now that she was with the UN and had to act more mature than that. I kind of cringe when I hear people say they want the ‘old’ Angelina back–girl, if she had acted the same way now, as she did back then, people would be calling her sad, insecure, and desperate–and I would agree.
But I really do think that Billy Bob didn’t want her to grow. She did get a lot more famous than him during that period, and she matured. She didn’t want to do the make out sessions, the groping….I think that’s what he wanted her for–in part. I’m sure they both loved each other, but I don’t think he ever really saw much past how beautiful she was–I think that’s what most of her value, as his wife, was to him. At least that’s how I see it.
Oops! just read the first part of your comment–I agree.
I really don’t want to rag on BBT only (he did his part too of course!) for the Jolie make-out sessions. Jolie was always far more into your face with her sexuality (in interviews and public) before BBT. BBT didn’t do all those things with Dern and other women he was with. BBT sure loved it (which man wouldn’t?) but Jolie was more naturally affectionate with people she loved. Her brother was hurt by the incest accusations but she didn’t care so much. He distanced himself from appearing in public with her and that’s what hurt her.
She also had shoots with JLM where they would also be draped all over each other but nobody rags on JLM for that. And the video I provided upthread also shows JLM and AJ engaging in what I feel is OTT PDA for two adults. There’s a video of a pregnant Jolie during a festival where she is often caressing BP in the restaurant.
I don’t think any man can tell Jolie to kiss him in public. I don’t think she felt it was a necessary thing to do that to keep a man. There is an interview with them (BBT & AJ) and it’s all very cringe-worthy in my eyes how they talk about sex sex sex. http://www.angelfire.com/dc/lia/ajus.html In candids it was often AJ kissing him or hugging him.
Jolie is just very in tune and out there with her emotions. She’s just less OTT with them nowadays. She used to talk about a lotion trance and tasting people, I mean… When that one piece came out about BP and AJ it mentioned Zahara saying something about mommy and daddy kissing all the time, it should say enough. She’s just loving.
She married as a teen and then again at 22 to a guy like 30 Yrs older than her, she says she was lost, and didn’t really know what she was about – (most sane people would agree she prob didnt) the brevity and immaturity of the marriages bear her out…and yet you’re disputing her account and trying to say the 10 yr relationship (full of support, accomplishments, children and sacrifice) that she has now with Brad Pitt, isn’t her great love? Oh, okay Jen. That’ll be all. Lolol
Why people pressume that Shiloh with be wild like Angelina when she was young. She seems to be a very happy young girl , and unlike Angie she has a loving a carring father who lives with her.
Jolie was happy too until her teens. She said so herself. She also said that she was lucky that her mother was so loving and caring. And she had her brother too. She comes from a broken home but there was plenty of love.
The first picture is EVERYTHING. Great interview, too.
I love the part about Viv being her shadow. You can definetly tell that whenever we see pictures of the family. Viv is always hanging onto Angie. So sweet!
Love Angie to the max! She is so amazing! Can’t wait to see maleficent.
The way she speaks about Pitt here is interesting. I highly doubt they’ll get married.
Angelina mentioned that they are engaged and the wedding is planned, and they are getting married. She also mentioned she have not told the children the date. Children will talk so she is keeping the a secret from the children. Angie also mentioned that the children believed that they were getting married last year but it did not worked out. I’m guessing because of her health the wedding was postponed.
I’m curious. Why do you think they wouldn’t? Just asking.
To be honest, I would actually described my relationship with my hubby like that, too. We both love each other, trust and understand each other, been through a lot for years, but we also drives each other crazy at some point ( example : me with my peculiar way on doing things and him with his easy going attitude)–just like any other relationship. 🙂
If they wouldn’t get married, my guess would be because they both feel like married already and don’t see any point to legalize it by law.
I know this isn’t directed to me but the reason why I don’t think they’ll marry is the way Pitt skirted around the subject during the 12 Years A Slave promotion. In my opinion this interview makes it sound as if they are more like friends than lovers. Honestly, I doubt they’d still be together had they not had kids.
I’ve never been much of a Pitt fan. From observing him over the years, he comes off as someone who lacks a sense of self. There’s something off about him lately too, as if he’s checked out.
One thing I’ve learned about Angie after being a fan for many years is when she says she’s going to do something, she’ll do it. So yes, I believe her and Brad will get married.
Nice pics but I feel the interview to be rather contrived. I’m on the fence with this chick. Something always seems off to me….always.
BALLS!
LMAO
Maggie on the fence about Angie yeah like Limbaugh is on the fence about Obama.
GMAB
Maggie, I agree with you completely. I’ve never bought it from her, and I never will.
balls.
Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks. 🙂 If we all liked the same things/people etc it would be a very boring world.
I like her.
paranormal girl, just have to say–I love your name!!! I hate my name–I might change it, I just picked my favorite shakespeare play….
How do you change it?
Thanks. I’m actually a bit old to still be a paranormalgirl, but paranormalwoman sounds dumb. I picked it because I study the paranormal in my spare time AND because I AM beyond normal!
I admire and adore Angelina Jolie. She runs herself ragged for everyone. For goodness sake, would some take care of her? She needs to have a steak every now and then.
Brad?
She’s runs herself ragged for herself. It’s all about her.
You are allowed to fall in love more than once in your life before you find THE LOVE. Perhaps it is even healthy to do so. I think that is what Angie meant and her mindset was in her youth…how she’s changed over the years. Angelina progresses, never regresses…this woman sets goals. I just admire her and the Jolie-Pitt kids are so cute. I like Brad too, seems like destiny was meant to happen. I sure don’t see Pitt floundering on a couch anymore or ever going back to Cabo. Progressive.
I have fallen in love three times and this time it’s different than the others. This time it feels like it was meant to be. It feels real and solid and forever. So yeah, I can see what she means.
I can too.
I thought I was in love once (we even got engaged), but the love I have for my now husband is definitely different to my past relationship/s.
I love her. She is so fierce and always has been. What a bad ass woman.
I’m going to say this and let it go. It is amazingly interesting to me that all of a sudden people are attacking the JP fan base. Accusing that fan base of not being able to handle negative comments about Brad or Angie. I guess some of you are new to this site. Because you may want to take a trip through the archives and read the comments going back to 2005. This site has not always been a positive place regarding Angelina. I have been posting her for quite a few years. And I and a few of the other fans have been the only positive comments about her. In a sea of negative. Not just negative but vile and things posted so nasty and ugly that I had to stay away for some time. It has only been in the last 3 or so years that there has been a turn. The thing that I find strange is that where were all these comment sensitive people when the comments about her were not mostly positive. Nobody ever had any problem with the over the top negative comments. NO BALLS were flying then. It is always fine to shade Brad or Angie on other celebrity thread.. I remember when she was attacked when filming The Tourist. She was going to try and take Johnny. Johnny was so perfect. Brad so terrible. Johnny keeps his family out of the spot light; Brad and Angie parade theirs all over.. then WHAT? oh Johnny’s family was not in Italy when he was filming. But that truth was after the attacks.
Brad and Angie had YEARS of nasty tabloid stories about their relationship, children. People here calling Shiloh horrible names; the ugly comments about Zee’s hair.. I don’t remember the BALLS flying to stop that.
Now that there are more positive than negative comments the fans are or over the top in supporting them. The fans are crazy. But where were you all when those negative things were being said. Not just once a week. But pretty much daily for years.. 6-7 years of nasty stories..
Yeah.. but see the thing is the fans remember. We were here and on other site trying to counter the nasty with something more positive. So we know when Shade is thrown or when someone posts some supposedly “innocent’ remark.
I’m a fan and will always be so. You can call me crazy or whatever. But some of you all over their fanbase need to step back and remember that Angie and Brad have been attacked for years. And while it is 2014; some people are still living in 2005 and act like their opinions are more important than others.
PERFECT POST @lisa2. 100% AGREE.
+1000
Right on, Lisa.
You said it. I was here lurking and I remember.
I’ll also say this — I didn’t use to be an Angie fan at all. Her style and antics never appealed to me, but she’s grown into a beautiful and classy woman, and the humanitarian work she’s done is nothing short of inspiring. I really admire her, and want nothing but the best for her and her family.
Lisa2, first, I have to admit I am a little confused by your comments. Are you upset that current commentors didnt’ step up to defend AJ 9 years ago? To be realistic, it is most likely due to the fact that a lot of people haven’t been coming to this site since 2005. When you write “where were you…6-7 years of nasty stories”, it seems as if you are making CURRENT commentors responsible for PAST commentor’s actions.
The Balls thing is just trying to defuse the INCREDIBLE negativity that is directed at Angie, Brad, and Jennifer Aniston in equal measure. Your comment seems to read as if you think the Balls group is attacking the AJ fan base, when that isn’t the case. They are pointing out how crazy it is to go over the top with hatred of AJ, as it is to go over the top with hatred of JA. It is a very moderate, middle of the road, non-offensive positon that is played for levity.
You say that you left for a few years because it was so negative. That is what the Balls are trying to end by injecting some silly.
““I never thought I’d have children, I never thought I’d be in love, I never thought I’d meet the right person,” Jolie says. ” Totally understand where she is coming from…
@Artemis says:
May 8, 2014 at 4:14 pm @Gennline:
If I say I don’t care it means just that, as you don’t know me, you can’t speak for me.
The tide has turned against the super haters, there was so much vitriol that people took up for Angelina and began to fight back, so yes people have got in the habit of replying to the criticism.
She thought she was happy, she had all the things that the world says should make you happy,love,marriage,money. But like many people before her she found out that having everything that you think you want does not necessarily make you happy.
Possibly she had not found her true self and true place in the world at that time.
As to drugs maybe as she says she just tried certain drugs but was never an addict therefore her work and life never suffered.
Maybe the haters who say she is a functioning heroin addict are wrong. Wow! could that be.
Maybe Angelina was never controversial but just a young girl from a broken home,that struggled with life in her early teens&twenties.
Maybe having been brought up to speak her mind she saw nothing wrong with telling the truth about herself.
Maybe the mainstream media and now the internet can’t cope with young women who look different and act differently from the standard girl next door.
Maybe people think that due to the anonimity of the internet they can spew venom against certain women and no one will stand up for that person.
Again, people who don’t care just say their piece and move on. You’re aware of the label ‘superfan’ and you mention it. You can just ignore it instead of pretending it doesn’t bother you. You refer to ‘them’ as in a battle between you and haters, like how is that not caring?
Jolie always received criticism from either media or people who don’t like her. She still has so nothing is changing. Not everybody will love or even like her. It is what it is. On this site there were always 3 stans replying back. Nothing has changed.
My point was that during that time, she was selling a happy image. An image of sex, love, freedom and rock and roll and then turned around a few years later and admitted it wasn’t like that at all. I’m sure she knew that during her marriage but you wouldn’t have known back then. Some things she keeps to herself which is her prerogative but it shows that the public doesn’t know every detail of her life.
That’s interesting because she said she was lucky that she didn’t die young in that 60 minutes interview. She dabbled in drugs and alcohol and she self-harmed.
I find it funny that some of you actually think you’re better than the super fans meanwhile you’re all the same;a bunch of people who never left high school.I always thought I was immature for my age (18) but that was until I met you guys.
lol,@Lisa you shouldn’t let petty things like these bother you,at the end of the day no one here has met her and hopefully never will.
I’ll tell you something, I’m a huge fan of Angelina’s, I’ve all her movies in DVD but before August last year I didn’t know anything about her personal life.So when I started reading about her I wondered why people said really ugly things like she hurt them or why her fans felt the need to defend her(I’m a firm believer of Angelina can take care of her self),so I decided to read old stories about her- because the fans in the then present threads were annoying-and believe me that was one of the biggest mistakes I ever made.So as much as some fans annoy me I kinda get where they’re coming from.If you really think about it there are not more than 3 fanatics on this site but it seems those 3 are used to judge all of us.
As for that nonsense about her fans making people hate her,yeah right keep telling yourselves that.No one can make you hate someone they can only serve as catalyst,you hate someone because you want to hate them.
@Lisa,like you,this is the last time I’ll be talking about this.I could promise to stop reading about her but that would be a lie as some people are just too interesting. SO I’ll just do what my gossip mentors(Eve,qq, Frida,geemoney, Jana and many others)do;come in,read the article,make a comment if necessary and leave.
HAPPY WEEKEND EVERYBODY!!!
I’ve been lurking this site off and on for years. I don’t know if people realize this but all the people coming done on the rabid fans really need to stop. People that write vile comments don’t need to be defended. It’s like high school all over again and to believe it’s “grown women” posting here.
I don’t know if Brad cheated with her and honestly, I don’t mind at all: she gave a very good interview and I don’t know which part I loved the most. The way she speaks about her kids is awesome, she pays attention on each one of them, it is so damn important for a self-esteem that’s still in formation. Also, loved when she said she won’t keep them away from sets, but won’t glorify the profession either. She is, indeed, aging very well.
Brad and Ange remind me of Tiger Woods pre scandal. Too good to be true.
you really believe that Sal ? they both admitted to their affaire during the shooting of MAMS
Tall.
I have no idea why people “care” so much about other people’s lives.
Brad and Angie are married with kids, the circumstances of how that occurred has really reached it’s expiration date. The fact the some are STILL harping on it makes me wonder why it is so important to them.
I really don’t understand why people feel the need to spew vitriol at people they don’t know, never will know, who have no effect on their lives and the vitriol will very rarely be read by the subject of said vitriol.
Yes, I know it’s a gossip site, a little gossip is one thing but the mean spirited sewage spewed by some is chilling.