Gwyneth Paltrow: Internet comments are ‘like war… bloody, dehumanizing’

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Gwyneth Paltrow made an appearance at this year’s Code Conference, which is basically what you think it is. Lots of tech people, lots of geeks. I guess Gwyneth made an appearance on behalf of Goop.com and her efforts to launch the site as a major international brand. Perhaps she could start by paying a little bit more for servers that don’t crash whenever she posts “Conscious Uncoupling” statements. I’m no techie, but even I know that one. Anyway, she gave a speech about the future of the internet, trolls and how she feels like she’s in a bloody war. Because she gets made fun of for being pretentious. Gwyneth the soldier!

Gwyneth Paltrow, the actress and founder of online lifestyle brand Goop, thinks that nasty, anonymous online commenters should take a look at themselves first before they post.

“The Internet is an amazing opportunity, socially. We have this opportunity to mature and learn, which is the essence of being on earth — to being the closest person we can be to our actual, real, truest self,” she said ahead of her surprise appearance at the Code Conference today. “But the Internet also allows us the opportunity to project outward our hatred, our jealousy. It’s culturally acceptable to be an anonymous commenter. It’s culturally acceptable to say, ‘I’m just going to take all of my internal pain and externalize it anonymously.’”

“It’s taken me a long time to get to the point where I can see these things and not take it as a personal affront and a hurt. I see myself as a chalkboard or a whiteboard or a screen, and someone is just putting up their own projection on it,” she said. “It has nothing to do with me. They have an internal object, and they’re putting it on me. I kind of look at it as, ‘Wow this is an interesting social experiment.’ You’re talking about a blind stranger having feelings about you. It can only be projection.”

“Our culture is trying to wrestle with the idea that everybody has a voice, and how it’s unimportant and really important at the same time,” said Paltrow. “We’re in this very adolescent phase. It’s dangerous, [because] we lack the capacity to say, ‘Why does this matter to me, and who am I in this?’ ‘Why am I having opinions about Angelina Jolie’s operation?’ ‘What is unhealed in me?’ ‘Why am I using the Internet to do this?’”

“You come across [online comments] about yourself and about your friends, and it’s a very dehumanizing thing. It’s almost like how, in war, you go through this bloody, dehumanizing thing, and then something is defined out of it,” she said. “My hope is, as we get out of it, we’ll reach the next level of conscience.”

This year may be a tipping point for Internet trolls, she hopes: “It’s almost like we’re being given this test: Can you regulate yourself? Can you grow from this? Can you learn? You can make it as bloody as you want to, but is that the point?”

[From Recode]

She goes on and on about how Goop is profitable and how she has “big goals” for Goop and she’s finding the “self-confidence” to see her plans through. She also says that she has never taken any venture capital for Goop and she’s produced it through her “blood, sweat and tears.” Gurl, you do one post a week and take August off!

So, what are your thoughts on Gwyneth comparing internet trolling to actual warfare? I mean… I don’t want to claim that trolls are all harmless. There are “trolls” who venture into some truly terrifying territories, issuing threats of physical bodily harm and dropping casual hate speech on a daily basis. Real people get bullied, harassed, threatened and stalked online and that’s a real problem. But my problem is that Gwyneth conflates that real concern with “people found out about my affair with ~~~ because someone on my team is leaking.” She conflates it with “people think I’m a pretentious a—hole because they read my words in context in an interview.” That’s not warfare. That’s just Gwyneth being pissed off that some people criticize her (for valid reasons).

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  1. Izzy says:

    Someone REALLY needs to sit her malnourished super-skinny ass down and explain to her that the more she goes on like this, the more people think she’s a pretentious a-hole (because she is), and the best thing she can do right now is STFU. Seriously, how hard can this be? It’s PR 101. Either she has the worst handlers, or her ego has grown so overly huge that she won’t even listen to them anymore.

    • kri says:

      First we have the comments concerning how being an actress with kids is more difficult than having a 9-5 job, making LOTS less money. With no “help”. Now we have someone who lives their life not just as a H’wood actress, but also as in INTERNET brand. So guess what, you pretentious, boring tw*t-you are fair game. Also, when you are so unlikeable, holier-than-thou, and controlling, people may not always worship at your shrine. I would say “get over yourself’ but why waste the oxygen. Enjoy your burgers and fries, Chris Martin. You’ve earned it.

    • mollination says:

      I’d actually be more okay if she really were conflating internet comments “because she’s a pretentious a hole” but she isn’t! She keeps saying, “if you look a certain way, or if you have a lot of money, or if you’re the grand poppy in your field that rises above everyone else,” THEN you get attacked. She thinks we’re all jealous of her looks and money and “projecting” our “high school insecurities” on her, and she’s just the tireless martyr willing to stand in for all of our bitterness. GIRL. It’s because you SAY STUFF LIKE THAT. It’s because you are so removed from reality. It’s because you’re transparent. Go eat a bowl of unfiltered Kaolin clay and get a clue.

  2. Kiddo says:

    Goop, thinks that nasty, anonymous online commenters should take a look at themselves first before they post.

    Ditto, back-atcha, goops. (I forgot how to strike line through.)

  3. Pam says:

    Trolls and peasants we are outside the wall

  4. blue marie says:

    I’m pretty sure me disliking Gwynnie, has everything to do with the crap that spews from her lips and nothing else.

    • Miffy says:

      No, no, it’s something wrong with you. You are ‘unhealed’, Blue Marie. Sort it out so you can stop projecting your peasanty awfulness onto Gwyneth’s brilliance.

      (My eyes are rolling so hard right now I think it possibly classifies as a seizure in some countries)

    • phlyfiremama says:

      Yep, she is a delusional narcissist at best~every time she opens her mouth, she proves it. “Like being in a war”~as a Veteran, this comment offends me so utterly deeply I can not even BEGIN to express how much contempt I have for her.

      • nan says:

        Yes! ^^ This!
        Comparing Internet comments to war and calling it bloody, just shows what an insufferably privileged & ignorant mind Gwyneth has. We don’t have to know you, Gwyneth, your absurdly hyberbolic & insulting commentary tells us all we need to know about you!

      • Dinah says:

        Yes, yes, yes. Did you notice how she also distilled all the blowback as due to jealousy people feel toward her? Omg, I snorted at that one. Poor, poor, delusional Gwynnie. When you don’t realize the extent of your own assholery, life is difficult, to be sure. More power to Chris for escaping the PR horizon event she has become.

        I wouldn’t trade my life for hers for a nanosecond. Seriously.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        Dinah, ITA. Her terminal self absorption will never allow her any introspection or empathy.

        Gwyneth Paltrow is the classic example of when you have everything and yet you have nothing.

        “I’ve learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel.”
        ― Maya Angelou

  5. Sabrine says:

    Ignore the comments then. Nobody is twisting her arm to go and read all the nasty comments about herself. She will feel a lot better if she learns to stay away from Internet troll comments.

  6. Hannah says:

    War, huh?
    Yeah.
    What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.

  7. Sixer says:

    From where I’m sitting, there’s a mishmash of nail-on-the-head and self-centred nonsense. The internet probably is in its adolescent phase and it’s all bit nutsoid out here at times, isn’t it? But then Goopie just goes adolescent herself and starts equating criticism with hate and/or war (war? FFS, woman). Someone who dislikes you and says so is not automatically a bully. Gwynnie explains that the internet needs to grow up by demonstrating that she needs to grow up. Ha. Love it.

  8. maria says:

    I think she should send her son to war. Let’s see how she feels about being called out for her bs then. Probably not like it’s “war”

    STOP TALKING WOMAN!

  9. Hannah says:

    I think she has a point but reading her comments… I don’t know if she wrote that speech or spoke off the cuff but it’s really rather ineloquent. There’s too many words there…
    Proof once again that most actors are no good when they have to write their own material.

  10. Dani2 says:

    She’s definitely one of those stars that looks themselves up on the internet a hell of a lot (I think the majority of stars do this but I am absolutely positive now that Gwynnie does this).

    • Christin says:

      Agree. Funny how some of them only complain when the vast majority of comments are negative. They see it. Maybe not every day, but I think they look more than most will admit.

      • Dani2 says:

        Haha yes, for me, when stars complain about negative reactions from the public, it’s more ego than anything, performers are love-hungry, they wanna be adored and they’re not used to not being liked. Of course everyone wants to be liked but with them it’s amplified.

      • Renee says:

        @Dani2 – do you remember that song by the Stone Roses, I Wanna Be Adored?? It’s a good one and while the lyrics apply to most celebrities they really apply to Kris Kardashian:

        I don’t have to sell my soul
        He’s already in me
        I don’t need to sell my soul
        He’s already in me
        I wanna be adored

  11. Mindy says:

    Smart woman. As she makes millions and analyzes social media. Other like us sit and send out hate. Kind of makes us look stupid.

  12. mia girl says:

    “It has nothing to do with me”

    Oh Señorita Goop, it has EVERYTHING to do with you.

    What twisted, convoluted, highfalutin logic she uses to deflect off herself and any sense of self-reflection. Yes, the problem is everyone else and their lesser selves.

    FFS she might as well just saved us all this fancy, verbose Goop talk and simply said…
    “I am rubber, you are glue…”

  13. Maria says:

    Ugh, this hurts my soul to say, but she’s right TO SOME EXTENT.

    We’ve all said some foul ish online about completely random strangers who we don’t know–I can totally see how it feels dehumanizing on her end or any other celebrity, to be judged for half truths or have words taken out of context, especially if you’re someone who takes it personally.

    That being said (I’m about to do some serious projection I suppose), not all criticism is systemic from an internal fault or sense of inadequacy–the comparison of it being like war (I don’t believe she’s being literal or equating the two, simply drawing a poor ass parallel) is faulty.

    Half of what’s thrown her way CAN be cruel, however, the other half is a legitimate critique of how far up her own ass her head is.

    She is someone who never takes accountability for the sweeping generalization she makes about every day people (the whole mommy wars story comes to mind) YET expects others to simply nod in agreement to her own bs.

    Is it too early to say BALLS ?

  14. Pam says:

    Does Mindy work for Gwennie?

  15. jammypants says:

    I think what she says is fine. But it’s coming from her which has me scratching my head.

  16. nadia says:

    Attack of the interwebz! Seriously, STFU and STFD Goop. If she’s not intentionally stirring the pot to get more attention, then she must be more up her own ass than I thought possible.

  17. Teresa says:

    Gwyneth is completely missing another reality about the internet and the anonymous feedback she receives. Many of her points are valid; when there is no accountability, responders are free to slide into their base selves and respond, comment, even pose, with a childlike (or childish) mud slinging. However, Gwyneth is completely missing the flip side fact that these masses of anonymous commenters are also a mirror to what she, herself puts out there.

    There are definite themes to the vitriol being spewed her way. What is it about her that strikes so many as insufferably pretentious? So condescending? Sophomoric delivery aside, thousands and thousands of people have chosen to hate on her. If she could stop trying to show us all how smart she is by deflecting the hate back onto the haters and instead take on some of the feedback and bother to do some of the ‘internal work’ she urges her haters to do, she would see that something about her demeanor, and probably about how she sees herself, offends. Rather a lot. And often. And very consistently.

    Whenever someone like Ann Hathaway is so vilified online, there are two reactions. The first is to Gywneth’s point– boy, people can be mean sods when there is no accountability for there nasty remarks. But also…and perhaps more meaningful here…what is it about Ann that so many find just cloyingly manipulative, narcissistic, attention seeking and begging for adoration? Heck, she’s probably a perfectly nice person, but has chosen to portray herself, to pose, and to create a character to the public that many find just inauthentic.

    Gywneth, I bet you’re a perfectly nice person, too. But honey, there’s almost nothing about you that rings true in the public persona you put out there. And that, my dear, is why the less calculating (Jennifer Lawrence and many others) do not suffer from the masses’ crude checks and balances as you do.

    Take you own advice, and start with yourself first.

    • Birdix says:

      This is all on point, and elegantly stated. But I wonder if she realizes that she’s a lightning rod and that’s what keeps her relevant. If everyone thought she was nice, non-controversial, no one would be talking about her or paying much attention. Or is that too meta?

      • JenniferJustice says:

        Although I agree with almost everything you’ve both written, I do not think she would be disliked for being boring or “normal.” She doesn’t spew rhetoric for negative attention. She spews because she beleives she is an intellectual. We react negatively because we find her to be ridiculously self-absorbed and narrow-minded. There are many celebs who are neither self-absorbed nor narrow-minded that have a huge fan-base for being ‘real’ and ‘down-to-earth.’ Hence, the loyal following of Jennifer Lawrence, Cate Blanchett, Tilda Swinton, etc. They do nothing to garner attention and yet they are relevant because they are good actresses, nice people (seemingly) and not preachy.

      • Hmmm says:

        I think part of her success (one of the speakers was the Google founder btw, so this conference was not some low brow event) is stirring the pot. She is constantly in the news, which she needs to be for people to go to her web side and buy her books. For every 20 people who love to hate her there are 1 or 2 people who check out her stuff. Her game is not a stupid, clueless one, I am sure. The gossip world may hate her but that’s not the only world out there.

    • lucy2 says:

      Nicely put.

      I’d also like to point out that Gwenyth, through her own doing with her website, books, etc, is putting it out there – it’s her tastes, her choices, her diets, her work out routines. She puts it all out there with the undertone of “look at this, look at me, buy stuff I like, be like me.” Anne Hathaway got a little carried away with her public hunger for an Oscar. Gwenyth is trying to sell us her entire lifestyle. You can’t do that, especially as a famous person, and not expect a response. If it’s important to you, ignore the non-constructive negative and keep going.

      I don’t disagree that there are some horribly unhappy people out there who get some sort of satisfaction saying terrible stuff online. It’s like a kid being abused at home who then turns around and bullies his classmates, it’s coming from something internal. But there’s also a lot of people out there who simply want to express their opinion on the barrage of stuff presented to us each day, and Gwenyth has chosen to make herself and her stuff part of that. I find it interesting how people in her position – those with a higher profile who have always been able to have their voice heard, always seem a bit taken aback when, as she herself says, EVERYONE now has a voice.

      • JJ says:

        I actually like that everybody has a voice now, It’s definitely better than what people in China have. Opinions over there are regulated and only official opinions get broadcasted. It’s also important, I think, to point out that if you go to other messageboards opinions on certain celebs are completely different. So I guess people choose to go where their opinions are shared. Most of my friends don’t care about internet opinions at all and they all know Goop just from the movies or from seeing her books in book stores.

  18. Elisabeth says:

    and she’s reading every bloody word. Stop already Gwynnie
    stop with your condescending comments like you are so far above us ‘boat rowers’ while you drop some truth on us cave people. you have to sit to poop Gwynnie, just like the rest of us.

  19. Miffy says:

    Yes, indeed, dear little turtle dove, Gwyneth. Your job is significantly harder than any 9-5er struggling out there and OBVIOUSLY people disliking you online is exactly like war. Just like. Many’s the occupant of the front line has commented as such. ‘Hey, isn’t this just like Gwyneth Paltrow on the internet?’ ‘They’re shooting at us again.’ ‘Shutup, Bill, we’re discussing REAL issues here! Poor Gwynnie.’

    It is all so obvious now where the obsession with a good cleanse diet stems from. Who wouldn’t want a squeaky clean colon when your head is so firmly wedged up there 24/7?

  20. lily says:

    If the comments were 90% positive she would listen. I am Canadian but I will say – Gwyneth people don’t like you because you are a bloody wanker – so I can feel a tiny bit superior.

  21. Green Is Good says:

    Then stop giving us so much ammo, Goopy.

  22. Amulla says:

    A few months ago, Goop said she “didn’t really read anything” that was written about herself by internet trolls. Now she admits that she does read stuff. Which makes her an internet troll, too. Just like all us commoners……imagine that.

  23. Shelby says:

    ” I see myself as a chalkboard or a whiteboard or a screen, and someone is just putting up their own projection on it,” she said. “It has nothing to do with me. They have an internal object, and they’re putting it on me.”
    Poor, poor Gwynie….you’re such a pretentious tool

    • mia girl says:

      “I see myself as a sponge and some bacteria is just putting up its own projection into me. It has nothing to do with me. The bacteria have an internal odor and their putting it on me”

      Goop, on why her sh*t doesn’t stink.

  24. shannon says:

    As much as Goop is not my kinda chick, not by a long shot, I do see what she’s saying. I enjoy this site and other celebrity gossip sites, but sometimes I am surprised at the extreme reactions some people have toward celebrities. I mean, I get the Lindsay Lohan stuff, the Charlie Sheen stuff, some just show how awful they are. But the anger expressed toward Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Gwyneth Paltrow, Beyoncé, even the Kardashians, kinda shocks me at times. I mean, to me it’s one thing to say, “Yup, I don’t really get that person, I don’t think I’d want to be friends with that person, I’m not a fan, I disagree with what he/she said and here’s why, etc” but the outright vitriol expressed by some is unwarranted IMO. Seriously, when people post hateful things, I just think, “what exactly did this person do to you? Nothing? Than take a seat and get your blood pressure checked”

    • scylla74 says:

      This… I also like reading some gossip and then some comments. But I also feel that some people put too much into stories that are GOSSIP and not gospel. Of people that we do NOT know.
      Also always the judging… as if every person has the exact same values as the poster. I think a little bit more of a distance would be healthy for some of the commenters. It is just gossip!

    • Just Me says:

      Yup. Take away the fact that Gwyneth is the person who said it and it’s an incredibly valid and we’ll stated point. I completely agree with what she’s saying.

  25. Pumpkin Pie says:

    She makes me laugh so hard.

  26. Tiffany says:

    Maya Angelou has passed. Sad.

  27. kimber says:

    It got to the point to where I LOVE reading her ignorant comments now. I’m really glad she has embraced her ignorance and continues to talk crap about people who she deems is below her because a class system in place. It’s really inspiring. In my next life I demand that the vagina I’m pushed out of be attached to a rich actress and placed into it by a millionaire daddy.

  28. Patty Cake says:

    I get what she’s saying. Her infidelities are her own and a lot of times people do project their own hatred on celebs. Even Tom Hiddleston has learned as much , hence, he doesn’t post as often as he used to on twitter. However, when the whole Goop line started, she should have said my cook books, clothing line, etc., is a bit pricey and may not be for everyone. Not, the I’m rich and not going to pretend that I live on the cheap when approached about the cost of the ingredients in her cook books.

  29. Remember The '80s says:

    I think she makes some very valid points about the nastiness of Internet culture, but the first rule of defeating the Troll is “Do not acknowledge the Troll.” So, in essence, she’s giving in to the very thing that she’s fighting against, because to allow the public to know she’s hurt by the comments is to simultaneously foster more of it.

    But then to try and interject some kind of overly optimistic “let’s all hold hands and make it go away” platitude is unrealistic. It’s all going to get much worse, not better. Best thing you can do is learn how the rules of this war are played and beat them at their own game.

  30. GirlyGIrl says:

    Yeah Gwynnie, and the comments get worse shortly after one of your ill-concieved noise-hole rants.

    You suck, Goop sucks, you’re as bad an actor as your Mother, nobody likes you, nobody thinks you’re smart, urbane or witty, we all just find you self-serving and infantile.

    I hope one of your handlers has the balls/ovaries to read this to you.

  31. paranormalgirl says:

    It’s not always projection. I wish Ms Paltrow would refrain from using words and concepts she does not understand. Projection is a defense mechanism in which one ascribes their own insecurities or unacceptable qualities to others. If people do not like her because they find her to be insufferable and pretentious, it does not necessarily mean that THEY are insufferable and pretentious and ascribing those qualities to her. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, Gwyneth, and sometimes a pretentious and insufferable brat is just a pretentious and insufferable brat.

  32. ViktoryGin says:

    This woman doesn’t possess an ounce of self-awareness or personal accountability, does she?

    Either she has no perception of the obnoxious figure that cuts or that her character is so far above reproach that any detraction MUST be the onus of others.

    It couldn’t possibly be her bourgeois smugness nor the platform that she has created, dedicated to proselytizing to those that don’t actually seek her advice.

    Nope. Not at all.

    • JenniferJustice says:

      No. None whatsoever and she never will. That’s what happens when you have “yes” men rather than real honest friends. Sometimes we need the reality checks we get from our friends and co-workers rather than the humoring and faux praise from people afraid of social fall-out, career blackballing, or just plain getting fired if they dare to be honest.

    • Ice says:

      +1
      She just refuses to see that she participated in it. All her self-help philosophy has made her realise that people are simply ‘projecting’ their own problems on to her. She can’t possibly be even a little responsible for people disliking her.

  33. The Original Original says:

    She has dehumanized herself

  34. Lionbdadddy says:

    I just can’t with gywn. I do agree to some extent with the online abuse and how people take it too far, but she irks me to no end. What people say about gwyn is the truth, its not hateful but the truth and 99% of it is negative because of what she put’s out there. She’s a negative person with everything she has and still complaining about having to live her very different life from us mere pheasants. Take a step back and look at yourself. Extremely unlikable woman waffling on and projecting to the world she’s a victim. Go away. Crazy that Chris, laid back, down to earth guy who is likable ended up with her.

  35. JenniferJustice says:

    I couldn’t even get past the first paragraph of her interview. Is she kidding? Again with the humble bragging – people’s hatred and jealousy? Nobody is jealous Dear. We just can’t stand your bony high-horse arse. And again with the “internal pain being cast outwardly” or whatever. I refuse to read it again to get the quote right. Nobody is in pain. Nobody has mental issues or repressed agression. We simply don’t like you, don’t like your attitude and don’t like your elitist entitlement. When I get irked with her ridiculous theories and say so on-line, it is not because I have displaced anger. My anger is rightly placed – with the person who irked me. I’m over her pretentiousness. Aren’t we all? Now I’m just fed up with her belief that she is so much more enlightened than the rest of us. She thinks she is an intellectual, but she really just has her head up her own butt and surrounds herself with people who praise her silly thoughts and applaud every idea she comes up with. Heaven forbid she accept that perhaps the masses see something in her that she herself is blind to. Of course not. We’re all just mental.

  36. MSat says:

    At this point, it probably doesn’t matter what she does or says. People have made up their minds about her. It was probably tough to get up there and admit that all of these internet comments have indeed gotten to her. But the thing with internet haters is, the moment they smell blood in the water, they’ll go in for the kill. I’ve done it myself. I do think it’s a fair point that commenters on sites do tend to de-humanize not only the celebs they’re ripping apart, but other commenters, too. Maybe not so much at this site but some of the more lowbrow ones. TMZ for example.

  37. CeltLady says:

    Goop~

    STFU. Please.

    Signed,

    Wife of a War Disabled Veteran

  38. irishserra says:

    Just what will happen when/if she is ever forced into experiencing real life hardship or even tragedy? I don’t wish it on her or anyone, but I am dying to know if she will ever have the ability to face it? I can’t think of another celebrity (yeah, I know, I know) who is so insulated inside a bubble; one of privilege and affluence, quadruple lined with ignorance, fantasy and delusion. It’s one thing to be a self – serving arrogant twit with no idea of how the world works but it’s quite another to float through life in that little bubble showering everyone with your self inflated opinions and nonsensical ideas for how society can progress and grow a la Goop. “Dehumanizing” “self projection” and reaching our “next level of of consciousness”? Honey, why don’t you sit back down and try developing consciousness of what’s really going on around you. Please. If my posted opinions regarding your lack of character and substance are your version of bloody combat, you’re in for a real treat should you be forced to face reality some day.

  39. Sighs says:

    Caveat – I agree that a lot of anonymous commenters go for the jugular. They say things to people they would never say to their face.
    That said, the thing that bothered me most was her talking about everyone being able to be their “actual, real, truest self” (on the internet). I would counter with, are YOU being your actual, real self when you present yourself on the internet, in interviews, and magazines, Goop? With your perfect marriage, perfect children, perfect diet? You can’t expect honesty and deference when you offer a facade.
    Really this is just an appeal for everyone to be nice to her. Quid pro quo…..

  40. LaurieH says:

    As pretentious as she is – having lived a priveleged life since birth – I can’t disagree with what she said here (and those who do ironically seem to making her point). We have unlimited opinions about 1) people we don’t know and 2) things we know little about. Having grown up in the pre-internet age, I can definitely see the destructive side of it. When we say things to peoples’ faces, there are personal consequences. Often painful ones. When we hide behind the anonymity of the internet and say things, there are rarely personal consequences. The thing is this: it used to be that sticks and stone can break our bones but names can never harm us. That was true in a world with nothing but face-to-face communication. But more and more people – particularly younger people – are living cyber lives, where the only thing that exists is words. As such, those words DO hurt. And as people become more detached from the natiral world, their mental health deterioriates. Numerous clinical studies have correlated depression, anxiety and other mental health issues to internet use. We’ve got kids committing suicide over internet bullying. All this will lead to is censorship; where a platform designed to facilitate the free exchange of ideas is no longer free simply because people lacked maturity and respect for it and instead used it as a cloak underneath which to abuse others and spew hate all in an effort to make themselves feel better and more important in a world in which they are increasingly withdrawn from.

    • frisbeejada says:

      I can see what you are saying and certainly agree with some of the fears you express over the use of the internet. There is a but (you can hear it coming I know). But I don’t see how one can extrapolate from Goop to school/high school children who take their own lives due to internet bullying.
      Goop is not being randomly bullied she is reaping the consequences of her unthinking statements and judgments. As you rightly point out, commentators do not know the people they comment on personally. Instead we comment on their comments, interviews and general BS put out by their PR. They are always trying to sell us something, an image, a fantasy and in the internet age that’s getting harder and harder to do (because of sites like this). It’s also worth remembering that celebrities like Goop do not know the commentators either. Despite that she is assuming that the reason she gets such negative comments is a result of our problems and our anger, thus demonstrating clearly that she cannot be held responsible for anything. Her rationalisation is that it’s always someone else’s problem, nothing is her fault. I think she angers people because of that refusal to accept the inevitable consequences of her own behaviour. She is the epitome of the spoilt brat and a long, long way away from a child who lives their lives through the internet in their bedroom. Those children are not imposing themselves on the world in a constant pursuit of acclaim, approval – which is exactly what Goop does and then complains bitterly when she doesn’t get it. Bullied children are vulnerable, powerless, Goop is a rich, pampered celebrity. There is a huge difference and while we need to look carefully at protecting kids from the ravages of the internet the likes of Goop need no such protection. If she had any sense she would put up and shut up, but that, as she demonstrates regularly is a vain hope…instead she actively engages with her critics and bats it all back. There is a word for it, stupid…

    • Just Me (and my Bobby McGee) says:

      God.YES, LaurieH. Love your comment and want to marry it.

    • Jayna says:

      I think it can be very destructive for our youth, no question, and I find it ugly and disturbing the bullying.

      But she is lumping herself in there and where this all stems from first, about Gwynnie. She is a 40-year-old pampered celebrity and I get being turned off by the vitriol written, but some of her statements are again a turn off. She has been protected all of her life by wealth and privilege and beauty (at one time). She is the one giving a million interviews about how we are all supposed to eat and live and be a mom, but she’s out of touch. If she came out and it was all about the youth and the internet and the ugly side, that’s a great thing, but it all stems from her first, about her. Using the war analogy in this day and age is insensitive and out of touch. She just has no clue. She needs to get outside of herself and start looking at what Angelina Jolie does with her free time and not free time, and maybe she wouldn’t have time to be so focused on “me.”

      • Just Me (and my Bobby McGee) says:

        You’re right. Gwyneth probably needs to do all of those things; however, the point is, this problem is bigger than Gwyneth. I don’t read her statement and see this as being about her. I read this statement and see the much bigger problem that affects all of us and she makes very good points. This anonymous culture of ripping people to shreds online is exactly why (or atleast one of the big reasons) I won’t let my teenage daughter have internet accounts.

        What’s sad is that a lot of it is fueled by grown adults. And if the adults in the home are doing it, what kind of example does that set for the children in the house – who are very much aware of what Mommy and/or Daddy have on the computer screen? You may not think they are – but they certainly are.

        I think many of the comments right here on this blog entry validate Gwyneth’s point. Sometimes I cringe reading some of the things people say about others, particularly when in reality, they really don’t know anything about the person. I think it says more about us than the person we mean to insult.

  41. Pam says:

    This site is called CELEBITCHY people! It’s supposed to be negative But it’s also not serious, comments are just a joking thing. If you want to keep it real read cnn or BBC silly!

  42. Irishserra says:

    When it comes to trolling, it isn’t the trolls that are the problem; it’s the people who address them; who respond to them. End the response; end the trolls.

  43. attention is oxygen says:

    No, Goopy can’t be quiet- she MUST have attention and it seems the only type of attention she can get is negative attention. Attention addicts like her pay MILLIONS a year to PR to get buzz- in her world, it is far better to get attention than to be ignored. She has the same PR as Aniston (in fact Goopy had him first) and it totally shows.

  44. Irishserra says:

    And I find it interesting and annoying that she tried to pull Angelina into the issue as some sort of comrade. The difference between GP and AJ is night and day. While Gwyneth is calling everyone jealous and spiteful over her “blood, sweat and tears” in-between telling them how they should live their lives; Angelina is quietly and often discreetly getting down and dirty with the lowly and broken, actively working to make their lives better. AJ, if she is even aware of it, in all likelihood doesn’t care if people question her surgeries or anything else for that matter because she is too busy being productive and making a difference in the world!

  45. Jazzjazz says:

    Of all the pretentious comments I have ever read, this takes the cake. She literally is on another planet. She has always had an easy life, won an Oscar when it should have gone to Cate Blanchett, married a musician who is extremely talented and makes oodles of money. Was born into a theatrical family who helped to make it very easy for her to become an actress and get parts. Maybe she should be forced to live on a average person’s salary, live in an average home, drive an average car, wear average clothes and have to get up at 6:00 a.m. to get her children ready for school and make them breakfast and pack lunches all without the help of nannies or maids and then go to a real job and work 9:00-5:00 and then come home and cook dinner, help with homework and maybe get her children into bed at 9:00 so she could have a few minutes alone with her husband and then go to bed so she could start the whole thing all over again the next day. Don’t even get me started on vacations.

    • Ice says:

      That’s the thing. There are many people who are just as or even more privileged than she is (materially speaking; and her parents were not THAT well off compared to someone like Ivanka Trump). But she’s so vulgar and poorly brought up that she thought it was okay to make a public display of her sense of entitlement and success (and self-perceived talent). I think she’s a good actor but all the other stuff she’s done has made her a public pariah. It’s true the Internet has magnified everything but her advisors should have known better and advised her about it; she probably fired all the ‘no’ people and kept the ‘yes’ people, as the latter obviously didn’t have projection problems unlike the former.

  46. frivolity says:

    Yes, the Internet can be very destructive. I think it has been more destructive to society as a whole – particularly the social media platforms that feed and cultivate narcissism., which is exactly what show business tends to do.

    But as for what the Internet has done to Goop personally, she is just receiving what she puts out there. She is so self-involved, so self-centered, so lacking in self-awareness and empathy that I am starting to think she may be more of a sociopath than just a plain narcissist.

  47. Lark says:

    Bangs head on desk. Oh Goopy. Look, I think the internet comments can be kind of crazy. Stars can make some off hand comment, and then they are condemned as having said something terrible and it can all be a bit melodramatic and insane. However, comparing it to warfare? She’s 40, not 20, and she just comes off as ridiculous.

  48. candy corn says:

    Goopies needs a new PR team STAT. But I guess that wouldn’t make a difference since she has her head so far up her own a** she wouldn’t be able to hear publicist’s advice anyways.

    • Ice says:

      Exactly. She’s also going with the ‘projection’ explanation because she feels highly embarrassed in a professional sense. She went from Oscar-winning actress who dated a bunch of A-listers (during the nascent-Internet period) to the single most hated celebrity on the planet (fuelled by accessibility of the Internet). Long way to fall and a big wake-up call.

  49. ickythump says:

    Ive heard people in Syria lie awake at night and worry about Goops feelings being hurt .

  50. Miss Jupitero says:

    Amanda Palmer is worse. She compared her being made fun of on the inter webs with a girl who was driven to suicides by the hate of her classmates in a now famous blogpost. It was worse than her poem about the Boston Marathon bomber.

    Someone needs to hand out the celebrity ball gags.

  51. Matty says:

    This woman is unbelievable.

  52. d b says:

    She needs to lighten up — Celebrities reading mean tweets about themselves, for instance, is perfect because not only is it funny, it shows the celebs can take a joke. While I’m sure most of them are faking it (side eye to Julia Roberts), it makes them look good. Try it sometime Gooperina.

  53. Ice says:

    ‘I’m just going to take all of my internal pain and externalize it anonymously.’
    - As always, she’s abdicating any responsibility for her inane comments; unapologetic sense of entitlement; boring, tacky lifestyle that she thinks is so elegant and elite; and complete lack of public approval. Stop reading so much self-help, Goop! I’m sure there are irrational haters out there but hey, even the journalists (who post their real names) agree that you’re not the most sympathetic public persona. It’s like she asks for people to attack her online. I think of her as a public relations train wreck.

  54. AskDesCamp says:

    I am rolling on the floor laughing right now…wondering how much money Gwyn pays to her “therapist” to lie to her and sell her this BS about projection and the “unhealed” commenters on the Internet. You know that guy is just rolling his eyes and biting his tongue every time he has to heal her poor, fragile ego and give her some meaningless explanation for why people think they hate her (but don’t – they actually hate themselves – how awesome!).

    The ONLY thing I can agree with is I think anonymous commenting is pretty cowardly unless you have a very good reason to want to protect your identity…for example you are commenting on an article about rape and relating your own experience with that horrific crime. When it comes to commenting on news stories and utter BS like this GP noise, I think we have more credibility when we don’t hide behind a fake screen name.

    HOWEVER, every other word she vomited was absolute denial: denial about how she is viewed by the public through her ridiculous antics, how much she is resented not for HAVING wealth but for FLAGRANTLY FLAUNTING it (sorry to yell), how her casual display of obscene and tone-deaf pretentiousness generates internet ire towards her, and how much working women like me find her whining about her career and kid responsibilities nauseatingly repulsive and offensive. Also, she pays other people to write for her, and that just pisses me off.

    She “writes” one entry a week? I have to do 5 or 6, plus all the other stuff I do to generate the minimal amount of attention I get for my blog. Blood, sweat and tears? WTF, Gwyn? Do you even know what hard work feels like?

    And finally, how perfect that THIS comment came on the heels of Memorial Day: “It’s almost like how, in war, you go through this bloody, dehumanizing thing, and then something is defined out of it.” I mean, I can’t even be bothered to attack her for this. That fruit just hangs too damn low.

    You know what I do with nasty commenters? I dedicate my blog to answering their criticisms every Friday. She is just a simpering coward who would rather whine to whoever will listen that mean people are being mean to her and that’s just mean.

    Oh, GP, just DIAF already, would you please? Also, please send a note of congratulations to Chris for losing approximately 109 pounds of GAH.

    -Your friend,
    Robin C. DesCamp of Portland, Oregon

  55. Hot Farts says:

    Try not to over analyze it Goopster. It is simple. You are not likeable. The ‘true friends’ you did have, like Madonna, no longer like you because you tried to or did sleep with their husbands/men. That is no projection. Sounds like you need to wake up and deal with some serious denial. Treat people like human beings with feelings and you will receive the same treatment in return. Apologize when you are wrong, and people will not resent you. Sheesh! Full of excuses this one

  56. Makeupheaven says:

    I just love how she specifically has to mention Angelina Jolie in her comments. (Btw, Angie’s operation is motivating and it gives hope to people like me) Anyway, I wonder if Gwyneth read what Angie said about privileged moms and their complaining. LoL Can someone ask Angelina what she thinks about privileged actresses complaining about internet “trolls”? LoL Gwen should know by now this is all part of a business that nobody forced her to be a part of. If she doesn’t like it then she should bloody go away. Blessed day. ;)

    • Bobbiesue says:

      That was retaliation for AJ’s thinly veiled dig at her previous unthinking, crass comments. She’s still the mean girl at Spence.

      • Kayla says:

        Yeah but she’s actually too stupid to have come up with that (or the speech, most likely ghost written) on her own. I smell her pr flack (who she shares with pr bestie Handler and Aniston) behind it..it’s predictable huvane style pr coattailing 101. ..when in doubt, and need your clients name in the press ans for people to pay attention…name drop or infer things about Angelina Jolie, especially when she’s blowing up some big blockbuster. Crumbs for actresses like goop who can’t get arrested.

  57. Vera says:

    Just when I think she cannot get more insufferable, she ups the ante.

  58. Pepsi Presents...Coke says:

    Looks like someone is having a real hard candy Christmas over here, huh?

  59. Bobbiesue says:

    Well, Chris thinks she’s a sky full of stars, whatever that means. Poor Gwynny, I beg you to go back to delivering lines other people wrote, while in costume; period or otherwise, preferably concealing your real hair and identity. See; Shakespeare in Love, Shallow Hal. Or, just lying down sweating and moaning, see: Contagion

  60. Ravensdaughter says:

    If you’re going to put yourself out there on the web with your crazy comments, better get a thicker skin, Gwynnie. GF deserves the blowback!

  61. Douglas Sydney Australia says:

    Grossly offensive comparison to every reasonably minded person. Does nothing to drive blonde jokes underground.

    What next, Gwyneth the despot running some third world country? It seems lack of opportunity is the only thing preventing this.

  62. dorothy says:

    Stop posting stupid things and no one will de-humanize you!

  63. lily says:

    I think her line of BS worked on Chris Martin so she is going to try to give it a go to the masses. I can’t remember the exact quote but CM said something along the lines of you can be with a perfectly wonderful person but if you are not willing to put yourself out there you cant make it work. He also said he needed to work on himself. I truly think than man was mindf–ked. I thought at first he was being a gentleman but as of today I have changed my mind.

  64. CJ Berk says:

    What an awful woman. Self-involved, delusional, and insufferable. We express our opinions about her ideas because she verbalizes them and they are truly idiotic. Nasty internet comments compared to being in a war?? What is wrong with her? She is the object of venom because she makes herself the object-saying ridiculous thoughtless things. G-d I can’t stand her. You’d have to pay me to see her in a movie and you can keep Goop -it offers nothing except ridiculous pretentious items to purchase and even more ridiculous preachy ideas. Go away Gwyneth.

  65. Evi says:

    I want her to go on the Jimmy Kimmel show and read a meantweet about herself. I’m sure she has plenty to choose from, entire congressional library equivalents of mean tweets directed at her…

  66. ickythump says:

    Does the UN have an ambassador for pretentious prats with too much money who need a feckin reality check? I have th perfect candidate.

  67. Sam says:

    Gwyneth cut the sanctimonious act. Stop dumping your goop everywhere because people can see that you’re a pretentious fraud.

  68. MourningTheDeathOfMusic says:

    Boohoo?

  69. Mabs says:

    I can’t believe she spoke at a code conference. The balls on this human are ginormous. I have no doubt any audience member having to endure her ‘expertise’ on all things Internet felt as though they were drowning in a sea of eye rolls and laughter. Seriously? Did she honestly think she taught them something? Genius words strung together in ways never considered? My gawd she sends me up the nearest wall.

    • Ice says:

      What’s surprising is that the organisers probably thought it’d give their conference some exposure, by having her there. Sorry, as usual it’s just mud and overly ripe fruit being cast their way, and all the negative attention is on Goop. No one remembers the name of the conference.

  70. GIRLFACE says:

    I read her cookbook. It was embarrassing. Recipes called for the 10$ Per 3 oz bottle organic non GMO sriracha. Regular sriracha was not on the menu. Anyway! What is she talking about?

  71. Arhodo says:

    Goopy, do yourself a favor and stop talking!

  72. Lily says:

    War? Seriously? It’s kinda overexagerating, don’t ya think? Well, in a way I can understand what she means. Sometimes haters can be well… Very harsh. But if she could just keep her opinion for herself, then she wouldn’t be hated that much… In other word, shut up. I don’t really mind her but this speech is kinda hilarious in a way.
    But, it’s too late, to the point at she is. There’s nothing she can do to change people’s opinion about her. And responding to the “haters” won’t certainly help. So the only she had to do is to go away. In conclusion, she’s hopeless.

  73. Jayna says:

    Cindy McCain just went after Gwinnie and her “war” remarks. She has a husband who was a POW and two sons or maybe stepsons in the military. She has a right to diss-tweet Goopy about her even mentioning war in the same thought process as being trolled on the internet as a celebrity.

    One of the things she said was, “Gwyneth Paltrow is a joke.”

    • Maverick says:

      Cindy McCain grew up in extremely privileged circumstances, exceeding GOOP’s. She seems extremely angry at Paltrow and went on some TV show to further elaborate on her tweets.

    • Just Me (and my Bobby McGee) says:

      Here’s where I get upset with all the moral outraged comments on behalf of the troops. If folks are truly so morally outraged, then why are there currently defense budget cuts so deep that soldiers who spent the past 10+ years in war now coming home to find themselves without a job? Why are soldiers being denied treatment at the VA? Why do we have so many homeless Vets on the street? In the grand scheme of things, who gives a shit if Gwyneth Paltrow made a piss poor choice of metaphor? The troops have much bigger problems right now, that could use all of that misguided anger directed towards helping them. Our troops are tough. Sticks and stones might break their bones, but words can never hurt them. Unless, of course, those words are put into legistlation…..Put that anger where it counts!

      BTW, my anger is directed towards the shitty way we’re treating our troops right now. Not at any poster.

  74. TherapyCranes says:

    I’ve had an online stalker for over 3 years. He will try to contact me on any site he can find me and make harassing and insane comments until I block him. He will then make a new account and continue on the obsessive bullying until I remove myself from the situation either by deleting said account or making it private. I wish I could have the freedom to have my twitter public and not have the paranoia and stress of “will he have found me today? what will he have said? should i even bother checking my updates?”. It’s been annoying. That said I would never compare his e-stalking and harassment to war. He’s just an online bully. I can make myself private and unreachable and just go outside. You can’t take yourself out of war times and the emotional and physical damages are obviously much more severe.