Shailene Woodley: ‘Feminist is a word that discriminates & I’m not into that’

Shailene Woodley

Shailene Woodley covers the new issue of NYMag alongside Brie Larson. The two were co-stars in last year’s The Spectacular Now. The cover says the ladies are “out to conquer Hollywood — and fix it.” Shailene and Brie talk how they’ve tried to transform the acting industry through their own choices of roles. They both seem a little convinced by delusions of grandeur, but at least they’re thinking outside the Hollywood box. Larson says stuff like “Girls in this industry sabotage one another. We will never do that.

One huge chunk of the NYMag interview talks about Shailene’s March visit to Jimmy Fallon (she brought him a phallic horseradish root) that went over like a springwater-soaked blanket. A great deal of the interview was edited out of the show. Jimmy had asked Shailene what it was like to be compared to Jennifer Lawrence. Shailene began, “comparisons lead to despair.” The audience booed, and Shailene went on to discuss her gender politics. She asked if Jimmy only compared her to JLaw because they both have short hair and vaginas. Dustin Rowles at Pajiba elaborates on the issue, and his take is worth a read. Here some other assorted excerpts from NYMag:

She doesn’t like social media: “My favorite thing in the world is writing a letter and sending it snail mail. I write letters every day.”

Why she hugs everyone: “I started hugging people because I was tired of fake interactions. You have only 30 seconds with a new person. I will give you a hug so you know I’m real, and then you’re real too. It helps to cut the bullshit and say, ‘Now–what do you really want to talk about?’ But we’re born into a fear-based society that prefers to label things, and now I’m labeled ‘Shai, the hugger.’ Everyone went crazy when I said that I liked to get sunshine on my vagina. But why not? It’s f—ing great! You should try it! I wasn’t hurting anyone, but still people cautioned me not to say things like that. After The Descendants, I was afraid, but I’m not anymore. There’s really nothing to lose. And I might even give someone else the courage to speak up.”

She likes mushroom powder in mint tea: “It tastes like dirt. But I like the taste of dirt.”

Shailene’s upcoming White Bird sex scenes: “It was so much fun. Everyone was freaked out because I’m nude, but in real life, when I have sex, I’m naked. I don’t have a bra on, and I don’t usually have panties on. So let’s make a real movie! Let’s bring truth to the scene! I didn’t want to be exploited, but this girl–like most girls when they first have sex–doesn’t know what she’s doing. I wanted their first kiss to be sloppy, teenagerish making out. When you’re younger, you think you know what to do, but you really don’t.”

[From Vulture]

I had to laugh at Shailene’s exhilaration at appearing nude with a “let’s make a real movie!” I’m glad she enjoyed herself. Really. It’s always a good day when you get paid to do something you love.

Shailene also sat down with the Daily Beast to discuss her recent Time interview where she said she wasn’t a feminist because, “I’m very in touch with my masculine side.” Shailene said she loved men, and feminism meant putting women in total power. Most of you rolled your eyes in the comments because Shailene has no idea what “feminism” means.

Shailene “clarified” her thoughts on feminism. She laughed when her publicist called because “I don’t read anything about me or go on the Internet ever, because it’s such a dangerous hole to get yourself into.” She went on: “The word ‘feminist’ is a word that discriminates, and I’m not into that. Labels are for other people to understand us, so for me, I know how I feel and I don’t need to call myself a ‘feminist’ or ‘not a feminist’ because I know what my truth is.” Shailene thought the journo was trying to “burn” her but doesn’t claim to have been misquoted. My favorite part is where Shailene adds, “I know where my cayenne sits in my spice cabinet.” That’s gotta be a euphemism for sunshine vadge, right?

Here’s some photos from last night’s premiere of The Fault in Our Stars. Shailene is wearing a yellow Ralph Lauren dress. It’s a very mature look, which she seems to favor on the red carpet. I could do without the cake-icing peplum.

Shailene Woodley

Shailene Woodley

Shailene Woodley

Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & NYMag

 

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  1. Greenie says:

    OMGLOLSTFU…stupid girl

  2. Snazzy says:

    I am so tired of reading about this idiotic child (yes, I know, my fault for opening the article …. bad Snazzy!!) … stupid stupid uneducated idiot, trying to sound like she has intelligence by using big words. She needs to STFU now

  3. Narak says:

    Her “truth” is that she doesn’t understand the concept of feminism. Go to school. Learn something. Stop sounding so pompously uninformed.
    That’s all.

    • Ag says:

      that always amazes me – that people who are uneducated and uninformed feel like they should share their ill-informed opinions with everyone. STFU. have some humility and read up on $hit that you know nothing about or don’t understand. but i guess her job puts her in the public eye and gives her a platform to say stupid $hit. it’s probably our fault for paying attention. sigh.

    • LadyMTL says:

      This + infinity. She really ought to pick up a freaking dictionary and look up feminism before she says such idiotic things.

    • Khadija says:

      These fools just dont get that their lifestyle was earned through the blood, sweat and tears of feminists of yore. If it werent for them this idiot would be branded a prostitute just for being in the acting profession. She would be “unmarriegeable” and would be forced to spend her life hopping from wealthy lover to the next because a woman without a male benefactor (read husband or lover) was just totally screwed.

      • Beth says:

        There are so many reasons why she’d be unmarriageable. She can thank feminists for making sex outside of marriage okay for women. And she can thank them for keeping birth control legal and available. She’d either be a teen mom or dead from a back alley abortion without the feminists she’s too good to associate herself with.

        This girl’s idiocy is astonishing.

      • Meredith says:

        Having grown up when a woman hired for a “man’s” job would be asked to get coffee for everyone, I am appalled at the lack of gratitude from some young women today. I wanted to take “shop” class in middle school but girls were forced to take home economics and learn to sew whether we wanted to or not. I was barred from taking “shop” class because of my gender. In my grade school, girls were thrown off of a baseball field (even though they were there 1st) because some boys wanted it instead. The male gender trumped everything else. Stupid little girl who thinks feminism is discriminatory while she wallows in the priviledge that other women obtained for her and others!

    • lucy2 says:

      THIS.
      She doesn’t understand it, so therefore it’s wrong and she’s above it.
      That’s the attitude she seems to be taking, rather that educating herself, or admitting she’s young and doesn’t know everything yet.
      I just watched her interview with Craig Ferguson – I don’t think she’s stupid. She was engaging, interesting, and seems to have an adventurous and inquisitive nature about many things besides just acting – which is great! But she is, as Khadija stated, blissfully unaware that all of her opportunity and success is largely due to the women who fought for those rights before her.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “Her “truth” is that she doesn’t understand the concept of feminism.”

      Exactly! Her “I don’t go on the internet” is starting to sound a lot like “I only listen to my own opinion”. That is a prescription for ignorance.

      • Dee says:

        I don’t and never will understand people who say things like “I don’t go on the internet” as if it’s a badge showing their superiority above all others. Umm…part of being an intelligent self-aware human is the ability and willingness to expand beyond your horizons and explore the world around you and in this day and age the best way of doing that is through a global interconnected internet. How else can you achieve any kind of enlightenment with such a narrow and self-secluding point of view? That’s not a badge you should wear proudly

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      Thanks to people like Rush Limbaugh deliberately misleading the public as to what feminism really means, feminism has become a dirty word. I believe Shailene prefers the label ‘humanist’ because she doesn’t want to label herself as a needlessly polarizing term. (She makes her feminist beliefs crystal clear for anyone willing to listen and not accept her heavily filtered views presented by the Corporate Media.) – http://www.vulture.com/2014/05/shailene-woodley-brie-larson-women-in-hollywood.html

      Terms like liberal or conservative, and yes sadly now feminism, are conversation stoppers in many quarters. Myself, I proudly identify as a feminist, but I understand where Shai is coming from.

      Lastly, run, don’t walk, to rent ‘The Spectacular Now’. Featuring the luminous Brie Larson, Miles Teller’s muscularity of a young Marlon Brando, and the breakthrough bravura performance of an indelible Shailene Woodly, both they and the movie are amazing. If there were any justice in the world and the awards weren’t rigged, Shai should have won an Oscar for Best Actress. – http://www.examiner.com/list/the-unforgivable-snubs-of-the-2014-oscar-nominations-1/the-spectacular-now

      • Lucinda says:

        Is this link your example of her views not being filtered? I tried to read it but the narrative is so fawning, I couldn’t get through it. I’ve tried to like this girl but I just can’t. She is so pleased with herself that it is nauseating. I get being young and idealist. This goes a bit beyond that. She is trying too hard. I am going to write it off to her youth and desperately hope she outgrows it. But she is not ground-breaking or amazing. She is a talented young actress who lives an privileged life.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        I take your point about the fawning, Lucinda. It’s Ok you don’t like her, but have you seen ‘The Spectacular Now’?

        Shailene is an outstanding actor, and I don’t see anything wrong with being an enthusiast at any age. It’s not ‘trying too hard’ to be excited about life or to put yourself out there.

        Circumspect vs. effusive is simple a matter of differing personality.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        Lucinda, here’s another quote that caught my eye.

        In my book, Woodley’s reaction to another actress beating her out on a highly coveted lead part is telling. – “I just wanted the movie to be made,” Woodley continued as she shot down my doubts. “And I know Brie will be brilliant. She can use this film as a platform to say something important about women and hostility and the courage it takes to speak your mind.” Woodley paused. “Oblivion is inevitable,” she continued. “Making Fault, which is about the constant presence of death, has taught me that. As long as we tell the truth, nothing else matters. And that’s what Brie will do. Hopefully, she’ll change the world.”

      • SpookySpooks says:

        I have seen the Spectacular Now and she was okay. Nothing more.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “Thanks to people like Rush Limbaugh deliberately misleading the public as to what feminism really means, feminism has become a dirty word. ”

        Just think, next time you write that you can put “Thanks to people like Rush Limbaugh and Shailene Woodley deliberately (or ignorantly) misleading the public as to what feminsim really means, feminism has become a dirty word”.

      • NEHA says:

        The thing is EVERY politician lies and exaggerates and manipulates. If you are an educated person, you will do your own research and make up your own decisions. If Shailene refuses to open up a freaking dictionary, that’s on HER, not Rush Limbaugh.

        For the record, The Spectacular Now was pretty mediocre. And, Miles Teller was the performance to watch out for, not Shailene.

      • Ange says:

        I can’t stand the wishy washy cop out of ‘humanist.’ We should ALL be humanists but we should also be trying to redress the power imbalances of society by being feminists. I can stand up for women’s rights and still care for all my fellow men.

  4. Erinn says:

    I keep trying to like her, but she makes it hard sometimes, you know?

    We went to see Blended the other night (super corny, as expected. Need for a simple, cute movie fulfilled) and the ad for Fault in Our Stars came on, and I was SOBBING. From what I could tell, she did a good job in it. It FELT real, and it felt legitimate. I was not expecting to be crying during previews. Same thing happened when the Chloe Moretz ad came on – apparently I was an emotional wreck the other night.

  5. SpookySpooks says:

    I don’t even know what to say now. She’s not so bright but thinks she is.

    Could Emma Stone please give another interview? I need a young starlet I like ASAP.

    If someone I just met hugged me it would freak me out. Who hugs strangers?

    • Locke says:

      Where is Emma when she’s needed?

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        God forbid, a Tonight Show viewer stop beaming for a moment to consider something beyond a celebrity’s lip-syncing skills.

        I mean, what’s wrong with Shailene pushing back against comparisons that put all female actresses into the same box by virtue of having a vagina?

        Ms. Woodley brought up something that made them uncomfortable and people really hate it when women make them feel uncomfortable. We’re supposed to “be nice” and “not rock the boat” and “smile” and make everyone feel better. This is a large-scale version of what is said or done to women every day, over and over again, in overt or inadvertent ways.

        Woodley is a self-described humanist, interested in connecting with as many people as possible, and I say “Bully for her!”

      • SpookySpooks says:

        She is talking about things she doesn’t know about. Wheter it’s feminism, or vitamin D or “isotopes”.

      • Elle Kaye says:

        Sloane, she is misinformed. She speaks of women’s issues but then states she is not a feminist because she likes men? Honestly? That is the inexperience of youth talking. She thinks she is the first to experience everything she is doing and the first to say it…yet, she is not. Enjoying nature may be novel for her, but for those who grew up outside the city, it is a way of life. I’m happy she appreciates stars and dirt and whole foods, but she is starting to sound daft the way she goes on about it as if these are new inventions.

        Hopefully she grows out of her, “I know better than the rest of you”, phase. And hopefully she picks up a book to educate herself.

    • Erinn says:

      Yes, please. I don’t want Emma overload because I’m scared I’ll not like her as much. But whenever someone gives an especially bad interview, I think we should reserve the right to wheel Emma in and distract us.

    • Dani2 says:

      “You have only 30 seconds with a new person. I will give you a hug so you know I’m real, and then you’re real too. It helps to cut the bullshit”

      Urm, it cuts the BS? Nope, it’s awkward and in order for the person to not offend you, they have to fake hug you so the BS is still very much present.
      I just think she needs to stop talking about it, it’s pretty obvious that she doesn’t know what she’s talking about.

      • Tiffany :) says:

        “in order for the person to not offend you, they have to fake hug you so the BS is still very much present.”

        Exactly. To hug a person you don’t know is to pretend to have emotional intimacy with them. Going through the physical motions doesn’t give you a short cut to actually being emotionally or intellectually connected to a person.

      • Dani2 says:

        @Tiffany Yeah, I don’t know why she thinks that a hug = real emotional connection. Sometimes, she really sounds like she’s thirteen, I can’t believe she’s my age.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        I disagree about the Hugging. What Shailene did not say is that you can tell a LOT about someone even when they do a fake hug.

        Again, these types of stories are SO out of context. Here’s the straight up “Hugging 101″ tutorial – http://www.mtv.com/news/1833435/shailene-woodley-hug/

        No actor in the business today dispenses hugs to fans, friends, and journalists alike like Shailene. I like her.

      • Lucinda says:

        Beyond uncomfortable, it is offensive and a violation of another person’s personal space. It doesn’t cut the BS. It shows how out of touch with reality you are. How about starting with “I’m a hugger. May I hug you?” That’s real and respectful all at the same time.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        Lucinda, I’m not sure which ‘you’ you meant when you wrote “It shows how out of touch with reality you are.” Did you mean me or Woodley? Either way, that’s not exactly ‘respectful’.

        Also, I never got the impression, or proof for that matter, that Shai hugs everyone. As much as I love dogs and people, I don’t hug or pet them all!

  6. Ollyholly says:

    She is such a moron.

    And yeah, JLAW is far from perfect, but this idiot will never be Jlaw.

  7. Merritt says:

    She needs to stop talking about feminism, because she sounds like a moron each time she does. She was on the cover of Bust not long ago, it is a feminist magazine. She is so uneducated.

    • SpookySpooks says:

      She sounds like a moron whenever she talks. About anything.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      Exactly. The topic of feminism should be entirely off-limit to idiots and morons.

      “When you’re younger, you think you know what to do, but you really don’t.”

      This is coming from what, a 20-year-old? LOLOLOL

      • Tiffany :) says:

        Can she apply that theory to herself now? Please! You think you know what you are talking about Shai, but you REALLY don’t!

      • Meredith says:

        I once had a ten year old give me instructions on using in-line skates. She started telling me that she had the same newbie problems “when she was a kid” last year. It was so cute. This Shailene girl is not cute. Ignorant, yes. Cute, no.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        I don’t believe feminism should be off limits for anyone to discuss. It opens dialogue, and we need that more than saying “Discussing Topic A is only allowed to whom we deem, and not for the likes of you.”

      • TheOriginalKitten says:

        Where is the “open dialogue”?
        Point it out to me because I see no open dialogue here. In fact, the format of an interview isn’t conducive to open dialogue at all because it’s a series of questions that need to be asked, answered, often-edited, and often screened beforehand by the interviewee. An interview is not a free-flowing dialogue in any way, shape, or form.

        Shailene is perpetuating stereotypes and misinformation about something she knows NOTHING about and I don’t see her listening and modifying her opinion. In fact, she seems pretty dead-set on her ignorant viewpoint. If only Shailene cared about “open dialogue” then maybe she would be willing to learn a little about what feminism means.

        I get that you’re a fan, Sloan, but take the blinders off–this girl is not an intelligent young woman.

      • Sloane Wyatt says:

        Hi Kitten, I said “opens”, meaning start or instigate.

        Shailene is a young woman with a platform because of her celebrity, so when she talks about feminism, people listen. That in turn “opens” or begins the conversation. Hearts and minds cannot be changed in the absence of new discussion. As many young people today seem to buy into the belief that women have ‘won’ and the feminist struggle is ‘over’, even getting the topic of feminism into public awareness is ‘distressing’ to our entrenched patriarchy.

        Yes, it’s true, I’m a fan of Woodley’s work, but I’ve also read her entire interviews and watched her speak. So while she may not be a Rhodes Scholar, she is eloquent without peppering her speech with the ‘uhms’ and ‘like’s that’s so prevalent today and has an awareness I find refreshing. – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nrKUVKiR0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nrKUVKiR0

      • Elle Kaye says:

        Sloane, it doesn’t matter if she injects “uhm”, into her speech…it is what is contained within, and it is nonsense.

        Perhaps you are young and don’t fully understand why women are offended by her remarks. Do you know about the struggle for women’s rights? That we had to fight for the right to vote? For the right to be treated equally in our own home so that women weren’t legally a punching bag? For protections against discrimination? for the right to do with our bodies as we choose? The list goes on. And what is this all called? Well, it’s feminism.

        It isn’t a bad word or an ugly word. It doesn’t mean you hate men. But there ARE people who want you to believe that. They are people who believe a woman’s place is in the home, doing as the head of the house states. Or they choose to be oblivious. If that is how they choose to live, fine. But women have worked hard to get where they are, and we intend to keep our rights. No matter what the uninformed think or say. Ms Woodley included. So if she continues her ignorant rants, she can expect backlash. Women have had far more formidable foes than a foolish little girl who likes the taste of dirt and prefers not to wash.

  8. flavia_deluce says:

    Awwww… yeah, I defended her last time, but this is pretty dopey.

  9. Hannah says:

    People complaining about labels is one of my favorite things. Horrible, horrible labels! They serve a purpose, you know. If somebody removed all the labels from items in the supermarket, you’d all look really stupid (Shailene doesn’t shop in supermarkets though, I would imagine). Of course you don’t want people to be defined by one word or another but labels aren’t the devil’s work, you know.

    • Artemis says:

      She’s dumb. She doesn’t like labels yet she labeled herself ‘not feminist’. She thinks feminism means ‘men haters’ yet she is a ‘man lover’ (another label) so obviously not feminist.

      She is really really dumb, for real…

    • Sloane Wyatt says:

      We are not grocery items, Hannah. I am in favor of transcending divisive partisan labels.

    • Isadora says:

      I hope that the topic of feminism is more complex than rice or apples. And even then you’ll probably LOOK at the apples in the supermarket and not blindly buy a bag of bananas just because the label says “apples”.

      So I actually think it is problematic to wildly use lables to express certain ideas, opinions, morals etc. because different lables might mean very different things to some people. I don’t understand why so many people and especially journalists feel the need to put certain labels on other people – if you want to know someone’s opinion, just ask them for it! The journalist could have asked for example: “Do you think that women nowadays still have to struggle to be regarded as equals by men for example in their jobs?” or something similar instead of simply asking “You played some women in movies. Are you a feminist?”

      She might be dumb, but the question was dumb too, sorry.

  10. bobslaw says:

    In that first photo of her in the yellow dress, I thought for a second it was Natalie Portman.

  11. Felice says:

    Really? After the uproar, no one told her what it means? Did they not tell her because they wanted her to continue to say stupid things?

  12. Mia4S says:

    Oh do shut up you annoying little twit. The realities of the world would terrify this child.

    I think I will go home and eat a nice juicy steak and a dessert with lots of refined sugar and artificial coloring in her honor! ;-)

  13. videli says:

    What a self-indulgent dunce.

  14. Kat says:

    I’m very rarely personally offended by things celebs say, but this hurt me. Feminism, the movement that made it possible for me to go to school (I’m around shaielene’s age) and be anything I want to be. The movement that allows her to make the films that she does, is discriminatory? She truly has no idea what feminism means and what is so obnoxious and frustrating is her refusal to learn. If you can go to a mountain and get your special water, you can google the definition of feminism and read a few article about the movement that allows us all to live our lives the way we do. F her man.

  15. LAK says:

    Bless. She’s learnt some big words that she knows cause a reaction so she’s going to wilfully thow then out there for as long as they cause a reaction……..

  16. magpie says:

    She is so full of herself. Coat it as hippy dippy or whatever, boil it down and she’s still just plain ignorant. And I hate having to hug everyone. It’s so phony and leads to those “side hugs” and “space apart patting back” hugs. Fake intimacy.

  17. raindrop says:

    Good lord. Someone needs to host a seminar on feminism for the benefit of the undereducated twats of Hollywood.

  18. TheOneandOnlyOnly says:

    THis is the problem with today’s celebutards, especially the young ones – it’s tiresome after about two interviews to hear them talk about themselves and their “craft”; but when they attempt to discuss anything complex – global warming, immigration, feminism,etc. – they simply are unaware of how much has been written about these subjects already and the history of the subjects, and they simply display their utter ignorance. Get thee to a library and read up on this stuff before you start brainlessly emoting. NYmag is generally lib – I subscribe to it – but she just is silly, and they won’t call her out. Do any of these people even read books on any, any subject to become at least a little informed?
    Her comments on feminism are incoherent. What is she talking about?

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      +1

      “I don’t like labels.”

      HOW ABOUT BOOKS, SHAILENE, DO YOU LIKE THOSE?

      Gah! She makes me so stabby.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “Her comments on feminism are incoherent. What is she talking about? ”

      Exactly! WHAT is she talking about, because it sure as f-ck isn’t feminism! To say she is wrong is such an understatement. I like your use of “incoherent” because it acknowledges just how far off her comments are.

    • Beth says:

      I wonder if she’s been listening to right wing media… you know, those guys who whine about the oppression of men and rant about “those man-hating feminists.” She’s easily twice the fool it takes to believe that rubbish propaganda.

      • TheOneandOnlyOnly says:

        I seriously doubt she listens or reads anything, period, I had a friend that was on a Hollywood softball team in the 90s (a journalist, not a movie star), and he said most of the celebs he came in contact with were mostly interested in themselves and their “careers.” Given the internet and social media world of today, I’m sure it’s gotten worse.

  19. whatsmyname? says:

    “Lately, I’ve been getting too much attention with the Met Gala and work going so well that I try to find rejection in my day. I’ll seek out someone on the street or at the farmers’ market and ask for something where I know they’ll say no. No one likes rejection, but it’s real. And I don’t want to lose that feeling.” – Brie Larson

    This whole interview is a pretentious MESS from both girls.

    • Londerland says:

      Oh my god. Loved that moment on ANTM, love that gif. Perfect.

      Far be it from me to wish ill upon anyone but I sincerely hope that Shailene and her omigosh-I’m-different, yet wacky and unthreatening to menz, super special snowflake sunshine vagina clay-munching bullsh*t just dry up ASAP and disappear to wherever it is that starlets go, wherever all the next-big-things go to when they don’t stick the landing. Lifetime movies and guest shots on Two And A Half Men and DWTS…

      Or maybe she could go to college and learn something.

      • Dani2 says:

        Aha, yes, the first three seasons of ANTM were so great, I can still see myself enjoying them.

        I just can’t remember disliking any of the young starlets this quickly, it took me a few years to start disliking K-Stew, and it took like two years for me to really see the annoying side of Jen (even though I’m still a huge fan), but with Shailene, I’ve only really been aware of her for a few months and I wouldn’t miss her at all if she decided to just disappear into the forest and retire.

  20. ~Z~ says:

    Her FAVORITE THING in the WHOLE WORLD is to write a paper letter and send it in the mail……
    Well, I just can’t wait to hear about the next thing she says is her favorite thing….
    POOPING in an outhouse?
    Churning her own butter?
    Oh wait! I’ve got it! Using rags for that time of the month instead of the modern day stuff we all use….

  21. stellalovejoydiver says:

    Ugh, can’t wait for the day when Hollywood stops to try to make budget pseudo hippie version of Jlaw happen.

  22. Laura says:

    So annoyingly pretentious. I really wish anyone, from twitter to this airhead, knew the definition of feminism. It doesn’t mean you hate men. It means you think everyone is an equal human being.

  23. M.A.F. says:

    What is with the 20 somethings in Hollywood trying to change the definition of feminism?! It’s her, it’s Taylor Swift, Lena Dunham (and I’m sure there are more). These girls need to go to college with other 20 years, grow and learn, and get some life experience outside of Hollywood. But then on the other side you got the 40 years old in Hollywood trying to recapture their 20s by talking about their vaginas and how everyone is attracted to the same sex. SHUT UP!!

  24. jammypants says:

    I don’t normally have a reaction to actresses like her, but this girl is painfully annoying.

  25. Catherine says:

    Would this little twit just shut up already?!?

  26. TheOriginalKitten says:

    Oh my god, please P-SS OFF, you rhizome-loving, dirt-eating, dumbass.

    The stoner community has spoken and we all want you to STFU.
    Go eat clay and dirt and play in the f*cking forest and leave the important topics like feminism to those of us who know what it means.

  27. L.E. says:

    Well, it looks like she is not going to read a book. Why can’t she just look up the word feminism is a dictionary or google it? The feminist concept isn’t extremely difficult to understand. Shailene is trying to be the hippie stereotype. Does she not know that the two are linked? It is like she hasn’t ever taken a basic history class.

  28. MissMary says:

    *bangs head on desk*

    Is this the new “manic pixie dream girl”? Instead of omgsparklesandperfectandwinonaryderinthe90′s, it’s “Oh, I don’t believe in feminism because I love men, tee hee! And I eat clay and don’t wear panties and I don’t think we should judge other women, but omg I couldn’t stand being fat! I’m so fat and I’m a size four!” type b.s.?

    She needs to educate herself and stfu about things she doesn’t understand.

  29. “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

  30. Dawn says:

    She is still such a little girl and using the word feminist as if she knows what it means. I think she totally has missed the boat on that (as have a ton of other girls her age). I don’t think she wants to be dumb on purpose but before you speak know what you are speaking of. I think she needs to get some books about the sixties and read what women were doing, not because they hated men but because they hated the way women were being treated. Feminism has somehow gotten mixed up with sex and really to me, at least, it is about being equal and having an equal playing field. She should reach out to Gloria Steinem and see if they can have coffee and talk about this issue.

  31. Patty Cake says:

    I think a lot of folks don’t really know what words like Feminist mean. A lot of folks haven’t been educated on the social justices that have been been won through sweat and determination by groups like these. My fear is that folks will not take the time to understand the definition and ful embodiment of the cause and just claim it in order to be associated with something, hence, giving others who are ignorant of its meaning, the wrong idea. I won’t call Shailene stupid, I just think she is a person with a platform, who is ignorant of the word. Hopefully her publicist will educate her though.

  32. Wallamalooo says:

    Oh dear lord SHUT UP! I really hope she’s not going to ruin TFIOS for me :(

  33. paranormalgirl says:

    I have no more can’ts with this girl. I liked her at first, I hoped for her. She disappointed me. And now… grrr.

  34. Hannah says:

    As a proud feminist since age 13, I really wish I could jump on the pitchfork bandwagon and I REALLY don’t judge anyone who is (Moon Child of the Immaculate Hearth has annoyed me enough without adding *uneducated* to the list), but repeatedly asking questions like this ONLY in interviews with women is unfair. If you say, “Yes, I am a feminist,” you’re a radical hairy-legged man hater; if you say, “No, I am not a feminist,” you are a traitor to all womankind. Instead of asking a bunch of twitterpated starlets the same question, why don’t we challenge the boys a little bit? Josh Hutcherson or Liam Hemsworth should be asked the same question that The Moon Child was and see how they deal with it. Feminism is not and should not be something only WOMEN need to have strong opinions about, positive or negative. Sorry for the longish spiel and while I think The Moon Child’s comments are stupid and ill-informed, it’s still questionable to address questions about feminism only towards women, in the same way that asking only women questions about “balancing family and work” or age is harmful.

    • TheOriginalKitten says:

      SO Agree with you about asking men if they’re a feminist! Great idea.

      “If you say, “Yes, I am a feminist,” you’re a radical hairy-legged man hater; if you say, “No, I am not a feminist,” you are a traitor to all womankind. ”

      I mean…yes and no. I think that if more women in pop culture proudly proclaimed themselves as feminists, then we could change the perception that some people have of feminism equaling “man-hating”.
      And I don’t think she has to be labeled as a “traitor to all womankind” but I do think that if she’s going to speak about feminism, she has an obligation to be informed of what the basic definition of the word is.

      I could accept her saying that she doesn’t want the feminist label because she doesn’t think men and women are equal, because at least that would show an understanding of what the word means.
      But her consistent ignorance really works against feminism in that she is continually perpetuating misinformation and stereotypes.

  35. Juniper says:

    She needs to sit down and shut up because she is completely uneducated. Think I’ll skip her movie now.

  36. Jaded says:

    She’s a bad combination of “know-it-all” and “totally uninformed opinions”.

    Speaking as someone who lived through the 50s and 60s and saw what women went through to just get paid a fare wage and get access to birth control and get educated, she insults me and she really does need to pick up a few books on feminism and get her history right before she continues spouting such inanities.

    • Dumbo says:

      We still often aren’t paid the same as men. And sexism is alive and well in corporate America! I wasn’t allowed to have an opinion about the projects and clients that I did all the work on. And don’t get me started on the porn at work. Plus, ageism is worse for women. All of this is in Western culture. What about how women are subjugated all over the world in less-developed nations. At the mercy of their husbands and other men who take out their frustrations on them in the form of physical and emotional abuse. The only inroads women have made is because women have united WITH EACH OTHER in the name of feminism. She knows nothing of the world.

  37. decorative item says:

    Oh, just piss the hell off would you!

  38. Ice Queen says:

    She seems obnoxious and a type of person I would not have a patience to be around.

  39. Izzy says:

    The only thing I can say is, try and hug me, b!tch. I do NOT like strangers running up and hugging me. THAT is weird.

    Everything else I was going to say about this hot mess of verbal fuggery, has already been said better by you all. I bow down with respect to my fellow Celebitches, for today you win the Internet…

  40. Pumpkin Pie says:

    She sounds SO STUPID (my reaction to her saying that feminism discriminates)

  41. Feebee says:

    LOL

    She said she doesn’t read anything about herself or go on the internet ever.

    Oh honey, you just sound like you don’t read anything full stop. The internet, like any tool, can be equally useful and dangerous. Instead of pressing our buttons, try pressing a few on the computer and learning something.

  42. bettyrose says:

    I skipped the article because I’m boycotting her. I’m only here to enjoy the awesome comments. Never disappointed! :-)

  43. Mixtape says:

    JLaw’s looking pretty good now by comparison, amiright?

  44. Patty Cake says:

    I think what saddened me more on the comments of Feminism is when Courtney Stodden said she was a Feminist. She too like Shailene Woodley have very skewed ideas of what Feminism is. It’s so sad because I now believe that Shailene parents allowed a “rushed job” when it came down to this young girls education. Lots of stars and sports players are half educated because their parents are more concerned about the possibilities of a huge celebrity career than equipping them with the primary knowledge, that is to say a full K-12 grade education, so they can be properly prepared in life for trivial things like giving interviews. It definitely saddens me that someone of her stature that has been given a public platform of sorts would reduce the Feminist movement to being an act done of discrimination or rebellion towards the human male species. I truly feel sorry for her. Her parents, her mom in particular, must be so proud.

  45. poorimmigrant says:

    Maybe she’s MRA but she doesn’t know yet:P. maybe that’s her “truth”?

  46. andypandy says:

    She needs to stop talking pronto ! This further proves that Hollywood Bigwigs for the most part are completely detached from the reality of the movie going audiences on the ground .They often decide that person X is the next ‘It Girl and relentlessly proceed to push them down our throats
    It the same thinking that has Zoe Saldana cast in almost everything that requires a black actress when a Lot of Black people really don’t like her

  47. Norman says:

    That sounds like something right out of Phyllis Schlafly, CWA, or Eagle Forum in the late 70s, 80s, 90s, with bra burning, male hating, ugly broads who can’t get laid and and that all important canard, broken families. No dummy, its about equal pay for the same work, fighting gender based discrimination, health, not being fired for being pregnant / maternity leave, preventing domestic violence and being rightfully assertive. I don’t know if Shailene comes to this conclusion by not being read or informed on this information or by ideological means but it comes across as ignorant no matter how its said.

  48. Damaris says:

    On today’s episode of “Female Celebrities Who Think They Know What Feminism Is” …

  49. Kels says:

    Her stupidity is staggering. Someone on her team please explain “feminism” to her. Also her face is pretty unattractive.

  50. hmmm says:

    Her “truth” is ignorance. With a massive dash of smug arrogance. Next.

  51. yogamuse says:

    Long time lurker first time commenter… I just wanted to thank this community for being populated with women who actually understand what feminism means. Aside from Dlisted, this community is the only one that seems to get it. Reading all these comments from these young starlets has my blood boiling, and it breaks my heart for future generations. I’m glad to know that I’m not alone in these thoughts.

  52. Revy says:

    Ok….the only thing that was concerning to me other than her blatant ignorance and utter stupidity, was that she did a sex scene…naked.

    Doesn’t she NOT use soaps or deodorants??? Who on earth would want to be near someone naked who doesn’t really bathe??? o.o

  53. Abbicci says:

    Can we start a kickstarter to fund getting this idiot a dictionary?

  54. Carrie says:

    This girl is insufferable, does she mill the paper for her letters herself too? And she still doesn’t get what feminism is.

  55. carrie says:

    In addition to Shailene’s stupidity, I was cringing over the interviewer working so hard to excuse her. Yes, it was all the Time Magazine reporter’s fault. How dare they try to “trap” Shailene!?

    It’s because of excuses and justifications like that that we end up with celebrities who think they can do no wrong, who think they have it tough, who then go on to whine about how their hardships are comparable to rape or war. The distancing from reality and consequences starts EARLY.

  56. Jayna says:

    And I don’t want to be hugged by every person I meet.

  57. AskDesCamp says:

    Dear moron who barely graduated high school:

    Feminism:
    a collection of movements and philosophies aimed at defining, establishing and defending EQAUL (emphasis mine) political, economic, cultural and social rights.

    In other words, feminism gave you the rights to: vote, own property, make your own decisions about when and whether to have kids or whom to marry, have a career outside the home (thank goddess you are an actress and haven’t thrown yourself into anything significant which could do damage to our society), etc. etc. etc.

    Please stop speaking unless you are reading lines someone else wrote for you. Thanks!

  58. Suze says:

    Her words! Her words, they jump and scatter out of her mouth and on to the page, but they do not come together to form a cohesive thought, not one.

    Shailene, help us, please. Do not ever pontificate on feminism again. In fact if you could never pontificate on anything again, that would be super great.

  59. fany says:

    Growp up girl. Feminism is about EQUALITY and JUSTICE. It is not discriminatory. It is about making things the way they should be. No honor killings, no rape culture, no 100 cents on the dollar for the same job. In this day and age, there are places women cannot go to school, drive, or even be in public alone. You tell a 12 year old child bride that it’s ok, because you don’t want to upset the status quo. You tell a rape victim it’s ok because you don’t think men need less power and influence. You tell the single mom of 4 that she doesn’t need equal pay because she doesn’t have a d&ck.Educate youself please

  60. maichan says:

    I do wish this girl would buy herself a thesaurus so she can finally look up the word “feminism”. Oh, heck, she’s got money, get TWO. Arrogance and stupidity are just not attractive. In men AND women. No matter how much sunshine you’ ve managed to obtain on your private parts.

  61. Amulla says:

    I think she is just saying that she doesn’t like being labeled something.

    • Monica says:

      Well, aside from that, she’s saying that the word “feminism” discriminates. She doesn’t know the definition, she only heard what some political movements, here and there, throughout the years, tried to do with that word. But the definition is short and sweat and stands clearly AGAINST discrimination.

  62. St says:

    There is something about her that just annoys me. And I can’t help it. I just don’t like her. I’m sure she is good person. But it annoys me when she is in our faces all the time.

  63. Ginger says:

    I do apologize if I sound ageist but she’s so young and so idealistic it’s sweet. I want to pat her on the head and give her a puppy. If these ladies want to change Hollywood I say go ahead and try. You never know what might happen. I’m trying not to be cynical.

  64. Monica says:

    So when her publicist called her to talk about the feminism quote, she or he couldn’t read the definition of “feminism” to that child? I mean, how bloody difficult it is to open a dictionary? This is the second time that she clearly shows she DOES.NOT.KNOW. the definition of this very simple word.

  65. Marianne says:

    I wish she would just shut up and go away.

  66. Kenny Boy says:

    I didn’t care at all that she didn’t identify as a feminist. I love feminism, but lots of people don’t, for lots of good reasons, and I hate how that has become a constant question of young female celebrities. That’s their own business and they shouldn’t feel forced to identify with something they don’t care for. And if she were saying that she’s not a feminist because feminism has a history of discriminating against transgender women or women of color, I’d be fine with it, because that is accurate. But it seems like she’s saying feminism discriminates against men, which is…. not true, and missing the point big time. She really needs to shut her mouth about the whole thing because she is coming off ignorant.

  67. K says:

    God love her, as they say in Yorkshire. (I believe it’s “bless her heart” in the American South.)

  68. Abbott says:

    If a stranger tried to hug me, I’d probably punch them in the throat.

  69. LaurieH says:

    Aww c’mon…cut the kid some slack. At age 50, I pretty much look at most women younger than me and think they are stupid. Not uneducated-stupid, but lack-of-experience stupid. And they are. I thought I knew everything at 20 until I turned 30. Then I laughed at my 20 yr old self thinking I knew it all now. Until I turned 40 and looked back at 30. Now that I am 50, it’s finally dawning on me that truth is a rather relative, fluid thing. As one gains more life experience, you gain more perspective about the world and – most importantly – yourself. Self-realization is a process and one that will vastly out-live you. So yeah – she has a perspective and thoughts and wisdom – but only 23 year’s worth; and in the scheme of life, that ain’t much. So I am not inclined to bust her chops for knowing what she knows and thinking what she thinks because I know – from experience – it will continue to evolve, change, expand, contract, conform, contradict and whatever else she wants it to do. And that’s totally okay.

  70. Kate2 says:

    She just seems exhausting.

  71. Rebecca Olson says:

    That poor, uneducated girl has a long road ahead of her.

  72. Amy says:

    I think it is sweet she hugs. It is a little weird but I remember one of my best friends in college greeted me the same way when we first met. I was a little put off at first because cynical me couldn’t believe someone could be so sweet and genuine. But no she really was like that and we became very close friends about a year later. And I agree that the word feminist these days has a very negative connotation. It’s not the younger generation being ungrateful for what our ancestors put up with. Nobody wants to be labeled one because of the way the media portrays feminists: as obnoxious bra-burning men-hating women who cannot be reasoned with. It’s sad that that is what that word conjures but that’s the truth. I work in a male dominated industry and the way the men bristle whenever a debate concerning how women are portrayed comes up is very alarming. The word feminist is often used as an insult, not a compliment. The debate often turns very nasty. I walk around the word feminist with a 10 foot pole. Sad, but true.

  73. Nighty says:

    Ok, for someone who doesn’t like social media, having a twitter account is kindda weird… whatever, guess she also doesn’t know what social media are …

  74. Giselle says:

    Funny how everyone tells this girl she’s dumb for not knowing what a feminist is, but everyone’s opinion on what a feminist is, is different.
    If she doesn’t believe in the word “feminist”, that’s her choice. But, is it really worth it to call her every name in the book because of it?

    • Nighty says:

      No, of course not, we shouldn’t call her names … but she could just not talk about it… usually what I don’t know, i don’t talk about, just listen and do research first….

    • Ange says:

      Thing is the meaning of ‘feminist’ is pretty much set. It is what it is. She’s the one trying to make it into something it’s not, she’s ignorant and flat out wrong and needs to be told so.

      • Giselle says:

        Maybe I’m in the minority. But we cannot force someone to believe what we believe to be “right” or “smart”. I keep seeing people say, “go to college and learn”. What does college have to do with anything? Especially being a “feminist”? If the word is set, a simple Google search should be sufficient. Going to college doesn’t make someone smarter, or better than others. We can’t slam someone for not being about equality, since that’s what feminist support, and then slam those who haven’t gone to college. It’s hypocrisy.

        If she doesn’t believe in the word, she doesn’t. And as adults, we learn to agree to disagree. I’m sure when someone in public says something you don’t agree with you don’t go calling them names.

      • Nighty says:

        But I don’t want her to believe in feminism, I just want her to stop sying idiocies about it: last time it was I’m not a feminist because I love men….
        That’s the problem, she can believe whatever she wants, but she needs to stop saying wrong things about feminism and thus spreading more misconceptions…

      • SweetJeopardy says:

        @Nighty: 100% on board with you. In all good conscience I wouldn’t be able to “call her a name” if she had stated that she’s not a feminist because she believes that women are inferior to men. She has a right to be respected for that belief…and that right ends when she chooses to (stubbornly) endorse and spread ignorance, like she has.

    • BestJess says:

      Sorry but feminism is the radical idea that women are equal. There are different strains within feminism in the same way that within Christianity there are sects and even within those sects there is a vast array of opinion but there are some basic fundamentals they all agree on. Same with feminism. To believe that it discriminates against anyone is just ignorant. If someone makes an ignorant statement then it’s perfectly OK to call them ignorant.

      If I said I’m not a Christian because I don’t believe that Mohammed was a prophet then it would be accurate to label me stupid.

  75. moon says:

    I love her for being so un-PR and saying what she wants. I don’t think she’s GOOPy, GOOP is entitled, Shailene is just…a space cadet.

  76. Gobo says:

    Fool. Being a feminist is standing against discrimination. Saying you don’t discriminate is a different issue. It’s like saying “I’m not against racism because I’m not a racist”.

  77. Zombiepeep says:

    She needs to go away now.

    Frighteningly dense.

  78. Remember The '80s says:

    Oh my God, who is this ridiculous little fool? Stupidest thing I’ve heard on the “definition” of feminism yet. Can’t wait to read what Allison on dlisted is going to say about this dirt-munching, tree-hugging druid.

  79. magpie says:

    She’s having a good run right now but I don’t see her lasting. She does not appeal to men, and she is obviously not doing much to appeal to women.

  80. Mhmm says:

    THAT IS NOT WHAT FEMINISM MEANS
    THAT IS NOT WHAT FEMINISM MEANS
    THAT IS NOT WHAT FEMINISM MEANS

    Educate yourself. You’re in a position where a lot of young impressionable girls are listening to your voice.

  81. Flounder says:

    Yikes I feel like everyone is being harsh. She’s advocating self love. I would take that any day over the garbage behavior of the kardashians, Rihanna, etc

  82. Dany says:

    somehow i missed the point where she says that feminism discriminates?! Often on this side people see only the word “feminist” in the headline and the hunt begins :(

    “The word ‘feminist’ is a word that discriminates, and I’m not into that. (…)”
    She says not that feminism discriminates, just the “word/label” and she is such a good girl and loves everyone and would never label someone and bla. Huggy McHippie

    Girl is just terrible and unlikeable in interviews. When you have to give interviews you shouldn´t fabricate such ambiguous half-sentences.

  83. GirlyGirl says:

    Shailene seems to be (oh what’s the word I’m looking for…) an idiot.

    I think she’s mostly harmless tho. Divergent tanked and I’m sure anyone this dumb will destroy her own career soon enough through bad job choices etc.