Joan Rivers trashes most people. Nearly everyone. It ebbs and flows with some celebrities though – I remember when Joan used to go hard on Angelina Jolie all the time, but nowadays, Joan is actually rather respectful and complimentary of Angelina. Anyway, Joan has a new book called Diary of a Mad Diva. She’s been shilling it for weeks, and there are excerpts floating around of some of the notable sh-t talking and general calling out of various celebrities. I didn’t cover it because… well, Joan was on the hustle and I guess I didn’t really care. One of those excerpts was this, about Kristen Stewart:
“Many stars only do one thing well. The best one-trick-pony is Kristen Stewart, who got a whole career by being able to juggle a director’s balls.”
Obviously a reference to Kristen and Rupert Sanders and the Mini Cooper. Of which there was photo evidence, a public apology and an acknowledgement that yes, Kristen cheated on Robert Pattinson with a married director (and father of two young children). I mean, that’s all in the public sphere. And since it’s a book written by Joan Rivers, I think we can safely assume the book is classified as “humor” and “satire.” But Kristen still got mad. And she had her lawyers threaten to sue Joan.
We’ve learned Kristen’s lawyer contacted Joan’s people and threatened to sue for defamation, unless Joan 86’d the slutty references. Joan’s people tell us … the prologue of the book — due out early next month — makes it clear it’s all for laughs. A source close to Joan tells us … they THINK Kristen’s lawyer may have backed down, because it’s been radio silent since the threat was delivered.
Joan has made it clear … she doesn’t care how Kristen feels about the book. The passage stays in.
Joan’s spokeswoman also confirmed the story to Page Six, saying that Kristen’s lawyer contacted them. So, it’s not like this is a confirmation from Kristen’s people that yes, they’re threatening Joan Rivers with some kind of legal action. This could all be some kind of stunt queen move from Joan. But it could also be that Kristen or her team thought they could threaten Joan Rivers and that it would never get out, and now that it has gotten out, they’re like, “Oh crap, nevermind.”
Just taking this claim at face value… how in the world would Joan’s joke be found in any way libelous in a legal proceeding? Kristen had an affair with a married director. There’s evidence of that, including her own public apology. Even if the legal parameters of “satire” don’t apply (and they would), it’s not libel.
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Seems stunt-queen-ish.
The fact that it came out is definitely stunt-queenish. However, whatever you may think or say of Joan Rivers, she is unlikely to have made this up. Anyone who successfully (and she has way more money than us from her work) makes their living in comedy/satire about celebrities probably has a better grasp of the legal definitions of libel, slander and defamation than a room full of Harvard lawyers. And let’s face it, KS isn’t really known for her sense of humor. Personally, I would pay to see Joan and KS go up against each other in a courtroom. That would be some serious comedy.
Who In the HELL is Kristen Stewart’s make up artist and why hasn’t she been fired yet?! This girl has had the same dark purple bags under her eyes since she was 16. She allergic to concealer? That would be my #1 interview question. “about the 7 year old bags under your eyes”
It is a mystery to me why people find Joan Rivers funny. I don’t have a problem with insult comedy but I fail to see the comedy in her act.
i agree. from the few times i have seen bits of the fashion critique show she does on E, she seems to be all about being incredibly mean. and, let’s face it, she should not throw stones when it comes to fashion choices or looks. but re that “joke” – good luck with trying to sue, kstew, it’s not going to go far.
She was a lot funnier back in the day…she was even in the running to be Johnny Carson’s replacement on the Tonight Show. (Seriously, go and watch some of her old comedy routines, she really was good).
I don’t know if it’s because of her age or whatnot but these days most of her shtick is based on insulting people and yeah, it’s not that funny. I mean, that statement about KStew was in no way libelous but it ain’t hilarious either.
She is mean, most of the time I find–and just looking at the other commentators–Guilian, et al…I don’t think they find it as funny as Joan. They always seem to laugh kind of uncomfortably. Like when your boss tells a racist joke, and looks at you when you don’t laugh, so you kind of force out a little giggle to placate the
But I was watching Fashion Police on youtube, and I saw the one about Angelina @ the Maleficent premier (where she wore the shiny gown and spiked jewlery) and she had the BEST ‘Angelina is a homewrecker’ joke I’ve ever heard.
She said (about Angelina in her black, spikey gown) that that was what the death of a marriage looked like to Jennifer Aniston.
I swear to you all, I DIED laughing (I’m giggling about it now).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJCB-4Edgk4
I think she can be really funny, even when mean. Sometimes she is hilarious, but less now than in the past. The joke about Stewart wasn’t even that funny, the way it was worded. There was no nuance, no set-up, no pay-off in the end, no real punch-line.
She’s no meaner than David Letterman. Plus she is a lot funnier and she’s willing to make fun of herself. The funniest jokes about Joan Rivers’ plastic surgery have come from Joan herself.
That’s true! Every time she makes a comment about someone’s surgery etc she always adds a line in about herself and how plastic she is. I can’t help but laugh
I don’t really like Joan, but I do like that she can laugh at herself. She knows she’s a target and kind of embraces it instead of getting defensive.
I am torn on Joan. Sometime her self depreciation is endearing…but at the same time, she is always fat shaming women, making ageist jokes, etc. I think she feels if she does it to herself that it makes it ok to do it to everyone, but I don’t agree with that.
Especially with her history, how (admittedly) her poor self esteem resulted in misguided plastic surgery….I just don’t see how she can attack other women in the same way that she was attacked early in her career.
Anyone wondering about the career of Joan Rivers should watch ‘A Piece of Work’ the documentary about her which should have at least been nominated but wasn’t because of a technicality (but really because the Academy hates her). It’s really a great movie.
She may no longer be relevant or very funny and she crosses the line with a lot of the things she says (though I don’t think with this joke) but the woman is a hustler and if you see that movie you will respect what she does and how hard she works.
K-Stew is an idiot for trying to intimidate her.
I saw it, and yes she has a very strong work ethic and never seems to slow down. At 81 I think it helps keep her going, and I admire her for that. But I also find that there are increasingly cringe worthy comments coming form her mouth on Fashion Police. Yes she’s built a career on being crude rather than warm and fuzzy, but some things she says really are not funny and go over the line. Her joke about Kristen really was tame compared to a lot of her other schtick.
I enjoy her from time to time because no one is too precious to avoid her attack. But I think that as the world has gotten bolder (think reality stars willing to do anything for fame – ANYTHING), I think she has been forced into cruder and cruder remarks, about 80% of which I don’t care for.
I worked in “retail”, meaning I was a sale’s person in a clothing store for many years. I think the humor came from blowing off abuse steam. People can be so rude to sales’ people, hence the cattiness becomes a defense, the humor the laughing, its’ a way to find identity and tune back into humanity. That said, Fashion Police is like a giant back room conversation after dealing with wealthy insensitive clients. I find the whole show hilarious and reminiscent of catty retail humor. As the most senior shop gal, I got away with the bawdiest most shocking jokes, so I well relate to Joan. I love it, it’s really the only show I secretly watch, although I now make a living as a meditation teacher.
I don’t think she’s suing over the affair but about the claim she has a career for sleeping with Rupert.
Precisely. She is implying Kristen fcked to get Twilight or other big roles. Her affair happened after she had the role.
Yes. The Sanders story was the first and only to make mainstream press but there were stories long before him.
But let me temper that statement. Kristen isn’t the first to do so, and certainly not the last. In that respect, it’s maybe not entirely fair to give her a hard time about it.
“Kristen once said something VERY weird about how directors have seen more of her or know things about her that she doesn’t want out.”
Directors work with actors emotional vulnerabilities to get the best work from them. Biggest fear/worst heartbreak/hopes, etc. I wouldn’t read too much into it.
It is insulting–especially since it isn’t true. I don’t think Kristen can act, but she got this role (and every other role she’s had) fair and square–based on HER body of work. Not because she slept with the right person–and God knows that wouldn’t be Rupert.
As an OT, I find it funny that a ton of people were saying that Rupert was the only one not affected by the affair, that it wasn’t fair that Kristen didn’t work for a year or so—has anyone checked out dude’s IMDB page lately? He JUST got a job. I looked at it a few months ago, and he had absolutely NOTHING on the horizon for work. I think he lost a whole lot more than Kristen ever will–and I think Kristen’s attitude during the whole thing was terrible.
Since she was a child actor, I agree that she wasn’t sleeping around to get those first jobs. But since then, who really knows. There are so many gross stories out there, even from women who are established and popular. But honestly, I don’t get wanting to sleep with her – she seems like she would be a cold fish to me!
I agree Rupert was hit harder professionally but he’s worked since the fiasco. He went back to commercials for a bit. He’s been quiet, somewhat intentionally, but still busy.
She had no attitude afterwards. She did her job promoting Breaking Dawn 2 and On the Road. What else was she supposed to do? After she wrote of a letter of apology, as any other actor or actress done that, she never mentioned it again. She apologized to the people she owed an apology to then went on with her life. As for Sanders, it was his first movie and he not Kristen was lucky. He was the one desperate for work not Kristen.
+10000000
Right. It is still stupid to reply to a joke in a book, but it is obviously not true either.
Absolutely what I got from this too!
How is there a market for a book by Joan rivers? Who reads this crap?
Me! I do love Joan for her acerbic humor. Plus she is huge in the gay community bc bitchy humor runs well in it. We worked briefly with her for her screening of her film, “A Piece of Work”, and she is actually a delightful person, but very professional. Her face is a amazingly nuts to look at, but she knows she looks like Madame and is the first to skewer herself about all the work done. She’s lasted this long in show business, I totally respect her – she’s had to run twice as fast as the boys. As far as Stewart, she is a public figure- had she not had an affair with a married man, people wouldn’t be making jokes about it.
Me too! I love her on Fashion Police too. She says some of the things I wish others would say. Instead we get people oohing and ahhing over the most hideous creations. And for the record, what Joan does is all an act. Most people know this. In her private life she’s the opposite of the Queen of Mean. Her documentary was awe-inspiring and heart breaking. She didn’t pull any punches on herself. I kept thinking to myself that as long as the Academy knows how much she wants it, they’ll never give it to her; which is a pity. I also cried when Joan went to that woman’s house who had (brain poot on her disease). She was on her way to becoming famous and got ill.
Team Joan here also. She is doing her schtick and has writers for the Fashion Police Show. I saw the documentary and loved it. I also have seen her perform live. One of the greats.
Before he killed himself, Joan cheated on her husband three times.
Go Joan!!
Kristen played right into Joan’s game. Joan gets all this press and Rupergate is once again front and center for Stewart. Kristen – get a new PR team. SMH.
Kristen shouldn’t think she’s above being made fun of. Not when she walks the red carpet with a scowl on her face. She should know that everyone is going to have a field day.
It’s a joke, it’s what Joan does. Kristen should have ignored it instead of bringing attention to it. Plus, like Kaiser said, I don’t think you can sue if it’s true.
If she even acknowledged this, she is an idiot. Joan Rivers busts on everyone and anyone, and then she moves on. KS just handed her extra ammo. And why would you draw attention to your own gross and stupid behavior? People were starting to let it be in the past, and now it’s front and center again. Dumbass.
I agree, Joan is being Joan. Did you see the documentary on her from a few years back? I really liked it. There were some really poignant moments. She might mouth off a lot but she isn’t the first, and there are male “comedians” out there doing the same thing and worse. For an 81 year old woman, she still works her ass off and I give her credit for that. If people don’t like her, don’t listen. I don’t know why Lenny Bruce just came to mind…. he used to get arrested for obscenity.
She was a tough bird, that’s for sure, and I admire her tenacity and her early career. But I do think she’s gone downhill a bit – not everything has to be so crass and gross.
@Josephine – was my grandmother’s name!! Love it!!
God, this girl is so obnoxious. She is incapable of ever laughing at herself. I’ve never seen her do it. Not once. She takes herself so seriously she cannot see the possible harm in taking on Joan Rivers when Joan Rivers has a book to promote. You can’t win this one, Kristen. Why stir it all up again?
I have doubts that this actually happened. In order for Kristen’s “team” to bother her about it, it would have had to have some serious weight to it. The more likely scenario, IMO, is that her people reached out on their own to see the detail about what was written and might have been a bit discouraging. I HIGHLY doubt that her lawyers threatened a lawsuit. KS probably doesn’t have a fool for a head lawyer.
I have no use for Joan Rivers, but I don’t see how it’s defamation for making fun of a deliberately public person that deliberately had sex in public with her married director. If that doesn’t open you up for ridicule, what does?
This is what lainey said yesterday and I agree with her completely!
“Think of it this way – for all the times that Chelsea Handler has ever gone on stage and called Angelina Jolie a c-nt and more, has the Jolie ever, ever, ever acknowledged? Radio silence. Chelsea doesn’t exist in heaven. That’s how it’s done”.
Exactly! I doubt anyone would have paid attention to this one line about a mediocre (at best) actress. Now, everyone will be talking about it, and it’ll be in the context of how it might or might not be true, and Kristen Stewart and her team obviously don’t understand the concept of parody, blah blah blah. What a stupid PR move!
Kristen and others need to learn the art of IGNORE. Because when you respond to silliness like this you have now created a new story on top of the old. You gave the story a new way to go. Her team or whatever you call them needs to learn how to deal with tiny fires. Nobody was talking about Joan and her book. Now more people know about the book and may be curious as to who else is she going to jab. I think there was some mention of her saying something about a few celebs but it went nowhere because they didn’t acknowledge it or Joan.
I use to watch the Fashion Police. I don’t anymore. Joan’s Jokes have crossed so many lines. You know things are bad when the panel look uncomfortable. She is getting very vile.. racist.. homophobic.. the list goes on and on.. I know she thinks it is just comedy; but the line is crossed too often for it to be funny. I thought E would stop it; but they are so in the toilet now so nothing will be done.
That’s what I don’t get either. I don’t understand why you would respond to it, publicly. Because there is a big difference between Kristen reading/hearing about something like that, and bitching about it to her friends/family (like we all do), and having her pr people draft a statement against it, and then releasing that statement. That takes time and dedication. It’s deliberate.
What does she think she’s going to achieve by responding? More people are going to hear it. I didn’t hear it until I clicked on CB this morning.
Agree 100%. She’s giving Joan legitimacy and publicity for free by responding. Would most of us even have known Joan had a book coming out, much less discussed it, if not for this?
KS’s team hasn’t responded publicly, though. We only heard from JOAN that they reached out. And yes, funny how no one heard of the book before this.
From my perspective, this is simply Joan’s PR work. Nothing more.
I like Joan, but that joke isn’t funny.
Well maybe Kristen could argue her ability to juggle a director’s balls lost her her career?
She had a better one before that happened.
If only she stayed quiet no one would have cared about the passage or read the book.
Honestly, her Adele comments pissed me off more.
What did she say about Adele?
That she was fat basically. I know that’s not uncommon for Joan but Adele doesn’t deserve that crap.
I like Adele somewhat, but she is a large woman and embraces it. She’s ok with her weight and she’s a public figure. She knows what that means.
I stopped being a fan girl when she came off as a needy woman that got pregnant very quickly with a married man. At this point Adele has good PR and that’s why she isn’t as disliked as any other woman who’s done that.
@FLORC
The way I heard it, the guy she’s with has been separated for a few years….is that not true?
@FLORC
Adeles bf wasn’t married he had been divorced for a couple of years already when they got together.
It was a ham handed move. Did she really think she could take on the queen of mean? Kristen had a “career” before she juggled any directorial balls, so I can see why she would be offended. Especially since she seems to lack a sense of humor. But threatening a lawsuit just brings new attention to an old story that she was desperate to bury.
It’s stunning that she has learned absolutely nothing, and continues to be so tone deaf with her PR. Of course Saint Joan was going to milk this one for all it’s worth. That letter was probably like an early Hanukkah for her.
I used to sort of find Rivers amusing but now I find her extremely desperate for attention, unfunny and nasty.
I understand she makes her living at the expense of others BUT her recent comments about those poor women held captive and raped for years by that monster, just shows the type of woman Rivers really is.
Although not a Stewart fan, she has had a successful and busy career since she was a child. I doubt she wss doing the casting couch at 12.
What’s interesting about her is that I think when her career was getting started, she would make more feminist comments during stand up. Idk if she just got old or if she felt she would make more of a career out of being mean.
I think she is now just trying to keep up with the younger people in her profession and desperate to be seen as cool and relevant.
I saw some ad for her reality show with her daughter and there was a “scene” of her cursing and trying pot for the first time. I knew then Joan was at desperation levels for attention.
Given how tone-deaf KS’ team has been in the past, I can totally believe they thought this was a good idea. And what did they think would happen- Joan Rivers would stick in apology note in the books? She really needs new PR/management or something. Of course, there’s always the possibility someone(s) tried to talk her out of it, and she decided to take this course of action despite advice to the contrary.
Agree Tig. On both points – Kristen may be “going rogue” again.
All Kristen has done is given Joan more material, more press for her book – it’s a win-win for Joan. Kristen should have taken a lesson from the Joan Rivers/Elizabeth Taylor book. Joan went on SNL and parodied Taylor mercilessly, and what did Taylor do? When Edgar Rosenberg committed suicide, Elizabeth sent Joan a sincere condolence letter and bouquet of flowers.
Either Kristen’s team is incapable of handling their talent, or they’re incompetent –
If Joan had just made a comment about Rupert and Kristen, I don’t think Kristen would have a leg to stand on but Joan’s comment sounds like she is claiming Kristen owes her career to screwing directors. Since Kristen was hired for the majority of her pre swath roles before she turned 18 (twilight, ITTW, the runaways, welcome to the Riley’s, adventureland otr etc) Joan’s comments imply those directors were having sex with an underage female which is worse for the directors image than it is for the underage actress.
I am sure Joan is loving the press and I am not surprised she is the one talking about it. Has Kristen’s side issued any statement or is this all coming from Joan?
@An
Walter Salles directed On the Road. Are you implying that Kristen might have slept with him for the part? Even though OTR was filmed when Kristen was over 18, if I’m not mistaken, she was only 17 when he hired her for it. If what you’re saying is true, then that would make Salles a pedophile and a law breaker.
Sorry, not buying the idea that Kristen sleeps with directors in exchange for roles in their films. She got caught kissing her Snow White director after the film was released…not before or even during filming. She made a terrible choice at age 21 which resulted in a divorce for Sanders and her own break up with Rob.
Joan Rivers knows who and what will give her attention so it’s no surprise she’s making jokes about Kristen and sadly, those three young kidnapped women who were kept as sex slaves for years until their escape. She’s an 81 yr old once relevant entertainer who is struggling to maintain relevancy in a youth-oriented and obsessed society and she has a book to sell. I stopped watching her Fashion Police show years ago when it became uncomfortable watching not only her scary, plastic surgery ruined face but also her co-hosts providing polite laughs and undeserving applause for her feeble attempts at unfunny, sarcastic humor. Majorly disappointed that Kristen’s handlers have given Rivers book and Rivers herself more attention than she deserves.
You guys are pretty naive about Hollywood. This happens MOST if not ALL of the time, not “some” of the time. Chances are more that she HAS than she hasn’t.
Most people didn’t even know about the book but now they do. Well played, Joan Rivers. I’m sure she knew Kristen would walk right into it.
And the congregation says, “amen!”
I love love Joan Rivers! Can’t say the same for K Stew.
Amen!
And did K-Stew learn nothing from Tom Cruise? You do not want to sit for a deposition because it will leak and we will get to know even more sordid details and the whole thing will have been rehashed.
My objection is just that the joke isn’t funny. It’s not libelous ENOUGH. Because if it’s about Rupert Sanders, (a) juggling his balls hurt Kristen’s career; and (b) that whole incident was famous for him going down on her, right? Was anyone paying attention to her hands?!
Unless there’s some other piece of Hollywood gossip that Joan Rivers knows, and Kristen Stewart wants to keep out of the spotlight. But then again, Stewart got her first big break at age 11, so…EW.
Joan Rivers was such a comedy goddess in the 80s and 90s. I loved her. I feel like staying with E! all these years has brought her down. But I feel the same way about Letterman, too. I think Seinfeld might be right — there’s a danger for comedians when they stick to one thing for too long.
Joan looks like the skin would melt right off her face if she was in the sun for too long.
Kristen should have left this alone. All it did is resurrect the cheating scandal. Even if she went to court, KRISTEN would have to prove that it’s not true. That means getting on the stand and testifying under oath IN DETAIL about her affair with Rupert. Rivers’ lawyers would come after Stewart in cross examination about Mini-Cooper-gate and the other cheating allegations that plagued her career; namely, her allegedly cheating on her first boyfriend Michael Arangano with Robert Pattinson. Can you imagine the Twilight cast and crew being subpoenaed to testify? I believe tabloids have alleged Kristen fooled around with another director on her film project before Rupert . That can be brought in at trial too. Bottom line – because it’s a civil proceeding the bar is lower regarding what is allowed in as evidence, and Kristen has opened herself up to have her career permanently damaged if she goes forward with the lawsuit.
@aquarius64
I love how Rob Pattinson always gets off the hook by some for aggressively and very openly pursuing Kristen during the first Twilight movie even though he knew she had a serious boyfriend. He even joked about it publicly by admitting he did not care about Kristen’s then boyfriend when an interviewer, who happened to be a close friend of his, pointed out that Kristen was very much attached and unavailable. It’s always Kristen being the guilty one of cheating on her then boyfriend to be with Rob and never any mention of Rob’s possible role in breaking up her relationship. Sure there could have been overlap from when they officially broke up and when her and Rob started their serious relationship but no concrete proof. And all this took place with Kristen not even out of her teens! I am a fan of both Kristen and Rob but I don’t like seeing one being singled out for criticism especially since there is no physical proof of actual cheating going on between Kristen, Michael and Rob.
But Kristen can be questioned about it at trial. So could Pattinson and Arangano if they’re subpoenaed. Other witnesses may know the truth and testify. This is about KRISTEN foolishly opening up a can of worms and potentially dragging other people in. That’s why she should have left it alone. Kristen’s fans STILL want to use her age as her get-out-of-jail-free card for her poor life choices. Because of that line of defense, people are going to push back . Until she woman-up and goes beyond that lame “momentary indiscretion” statement (or don’t have her team respond to bad and crass jokes) Kristen will keep that “trampire” stamp on her.
@aquarius64
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Why would her teenaged relationship with fellow actor Michael Arangano, who was/is NOT a director, be brought up in trial IF it goes to court? Kristen was 14 or 15 when she met and starred in Speak with Arangano. Are you implying she slept with the director of Speak at age of 14 for the role? Kristen was 17 when she was hired for Twilight by director Catherine Hardwicke. Are you also implying she slept with Hardwicke as an underaged teen for the role of Bella and Rob would be called to testify about it in court? Rob didn’t meet Kristen until AFTER Kristen was already cast as Bella. I’m not a lawyer but I seriously doubt Rob or Michael would be dragged into Kristen’s legal battle (if it even happens!) with Rivers.
well if you do the director you will have to live with such jokes. those are the oldest jokes and stories about hollywood, it is THE classic in Tinseltown.
satire works with overdramatizing, but i think its ok. its only normal that people question how she got roles. she brought this on herself.
i doubt the story is true, if her team and she has half a brain cell they know this would only backfire and result in way more damage a one liner in a book from a has been will ever do.
Rivers used to be good, way before most of us here were born. nowadays its basically only “what everybody else thinks, but is to afraid to say”. alright, be the fool who says those things in front of the king, but it does not take great comedy skill to write something like that. its very obvious.
Kristen needs to own what happened ….
The girl could REALLY use a humor chip; shes too young to be so damn pissy
I’m a journalist so we’re taught libel and slander laws. In order to prove libel (defamation is one requirement defense has to prove) the statement has to be false. And the person writing it knew it was false, or was being negligent in their reporting. Good luck K-Stew
Well if she DIDNT do anything (regardless of the timeline) it wouldn’t be a joke. Lesson learned Kristen.
So her and Chelsey Handler are the same?
if this went to court the public would hear all the details of her and Rupert. she acts so dumb many times. now her cheating scandal is back in the press.
And that’s why I don’t understand Universal going forward with Kristen in SWATH 2. The media will definitely resurrect it.
“The best one-trick-pony is Kristen Stewart, who got a whole career by being able to juggle a director’s balls.” Obviously a reference to Kristen and Rupert Sanders and the Mini Cooper….”
I disagree, this girl had a career long before. She was what 16? when she filmed Twilight and became a star. That Sanders-thing was years later and almost ended her career.
So Joan Rivers says Stewart slept with directors when she was a teenie?! In Stewart´s case i would be angry too. Yes, her PR team should better ignore it, but i can understand why they think they have to do something against it. There are always people sho believe such stuff. River´s comments are often more than just bitching. I call it defamation.
I saw ‘Adventureland’ for the first time a few days ago and I was shocked how much this one sucked the soul and cuteness out of a charming script with an otherwise fun cast and rollicking vibe to it. Her character was morose, mean even, incomprehensible, moody and witless. She really can’t act. It’s unfortunate. I liked her in The Runaways but then again she didn’t say much and portraying Joan Jett as a pissy bitch seems easy. I wouldn’t rule out her getting roles this way, there are SO many gross stories out there about all kinds of actors.
I agree on all points. She is just the SAME in everything (but was fairly okay in Runaways). She dresses the same, acts the same, all of it. It’s so boring. There was a tiny glimmer of something in her performance in Snow White & TH, but she won’t be reprising her role in the sequel, I’m guessing. Or Rupert won’t direct. One of the two…
I will stand by this til the day I die – Twilight was ONLY popular because of the MAD love for the books. Period. It had ZERO ZERO to do with the script, the actors, the films’ end product etc. The fans loved the actors because they were cast in the roles of their favorite characters, not because they were GOOD actors in a good movie. The movies were terrible. I STILL watch them whenever I feel like it, even though they’re bad and it makes me sad to see what a mess they are. They had a lot of potential and I pray I get a remake before I die. Anyhoo.
Cali – what’s the point of a remake if Stephenie Meyer still has control over her material? Which she does.
Oh I’m fine with them sticking to the material, just with better actors and director. There’s more raw emotion and humor and just everything in one episode of the Vampire Diaries than there is in the entire five Twilight films.
Stephenie just wanted to make sure it stayed true to the books, which it did for the most part. She was just protective over certain things – like when MTV initially wanted to buy the rights and planned to make Bella a track star. haha.
I saw Adventureland and thought she did a great job, but it was the only thing I had seen her in.
“Her character was morose, mean even, incomprehensible, moody and witless. ”
…isn’t that because her character WAS those things, dealing with her family challenges and being the older guy’s mistress? I thought she really let the underlying steam build up until the wig was snatched from her stepmom’s head. Her performance made emotional sense to me.
It would have been a much better movie if she had added a touch of humor. She really slowed down the pacing for me and threw the film. The part where she confronts her stepmom felt bracingly cruel and melodramatic, where it could have been funny and generated compassion for her character. She should have played the morose thing with more clever quirk a la Paul Dano in Little Miss Sunshine-fantastic example of how to deliver dead pan black comedy and still preserve a dramatic element. But Paul Dano is a great actor… And She just isn’t, IMO. She totally Bella Swan’d the shit out of Adventureland and Snow White. Idk how she gets roles because her cold readings must suck ass if her delivery is so bad after months of time to prepare. Bella Swan is like her Blue Steel or something.
Joan knows that defamation is difficult to prove in a court of law. Thats why she does what she does. I’m willing to bet people are aware that Kristen got her start at a young age. Let’s not play dumb, Kristen isn’t trying to refute that she cheated, but to say her whole career was based off of sleeping with directors sounds like defamation.
I for one can’t stand Joan and as of late she uses other celebrities to stay relevant. And its not just celebrities, but those women in Cleveland who were kidnaped or “jokes” about the Holocaust its deplorable in my book. Which is sad because in her early career she didn’t have to use such low level comedy for attention and success.
It doesn’t surprise me that Joan is the only one talking. E!Online ran another story and Joan’s tone completely changed. According to the E!Online story and Joan’s reps, Kristen didn’t threaten to sue, but her lawyer called Joan’s lawyer regarding the content of the book. Then Joan goes on to call Kristen adorable and an A-lister. It seems like Joan wanted publicity for her book that wasn’t getting much attention and extrapolated a phone call into threatening to sue.
@Sky_O
That’s interesting about E!Online’s recent story which clarifies that Kristen’s lawyers did not threaten Joan with a lawsuit and Joan even calling Kristen “adorable” and an “A-lister” after the fact. I agree, it sounds more like Joan wanting desperately to give her book some much needed attention. To be perfectly honest, I had no idea Joan had a new book out. Unfortunately, I do now.
@mimi – the alleged cheating with Rob on Michael’s watch could be brought in by lawyers to call Kristen’s character into question: that she’s a serial cheater and she brings scandal to the job. It paints her as selfish and unprofessional. A judge could allow it because Kristen wouldn’t get a pass for what she did due to her age at the time. The point is – why open yourself up to more scrutiny to your personal life where every aspect will be examined more than it has before? There’s a chance things that didn’t make it to the gossip media will come out; or worse, things would come out that would confirm what the tabs previously wrote. It’s lose-lose for Kristen, and she needs to drop it.
The only people who try to paint Kristen as a serial cheater are Rob’s fans who have no idea when her relationship with Michael ended and completely disregard the fact that Rob was pining for Kristen. And he was going after her hard and made it public. She actually handled that situation fine. Rob on the other had was not so professional.
I not inclined to believe that there is a lawsuit or going to be one. Just Joan talking to the press.
Bottom line – it can be dragged out, under oath. @tracy – going after a taken woman came back on Rob with a vengeance four years later. @sky – It still doesn’t exonerate Kristen, unless you’re claiming Rob forced her. Kristen fans need to stop making her 100% blameless for her wrong choices. Whitewashing her decisions on the fans’ part does not help her.
Wouldn’t that Rob a cheater? If Kristen was with Michael, should Rob have respected that relationship? I guess that was Rob’s karma.
How will they be able to prove a thing like this ? More importantly it is all besides the point. The question for the court will be whether Joan’s statement is true, whether she made a career out of sleeping with the directors. Not even Joan or her lawyers think the statement is true as they have already clarified that it was a joke.
The question for the court is can KRISTEN prove it’s not true, which is the criterion in a US court for libel and defamation. Kristen will have to get on the stand and explain her behavior to a judge and maybe a jury; she can’t hide behind a PR team like she did in the Mini-Cooper Mess. You bet TMZ will report the gory details; it got the information on the Liberty Ross/Rupert Sanders divorce:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/05/30/liberty-ross-rupert-sanders-divorce-kristin-stewart-money-house/
Does Kristen want Liberty and Rupert subpoenaed and testify what the “guilt money” covered specifically? Go into details of the affair? They won’t be able to play the protect-the-kids card because TMZ has made everything public.
@aquarius64
In this country, a person is innocent until proven guilty…not the other way around as you seem to indicate. IF, and that’s a very big IF, it does go to court, Joan’s team would have the burden to prove that Kristen’s acting career was established through actual sex encounters with directors in exchange for movie roles as Joan “joked” about in her new book. Since Kristen started acting at age 9, those are very serious allegations being made against every director Kristen has worked with since her childhood.
As someone mentioned earlier, it appears E!Online and Joan seem to be backing off now. No surprise, really.
Does anyone care about Joan? I doubt that Kristen cares. Joan just wants publicity for her book.
Kristen obviously cares otherwise her lawyer wouldn’t have threatened.
It has merit, though little, in the legal spectrum. It can be cause for suit due to defamation; the inference is that her career as an actress is solely the result of her *ahem sexual performance with superiors so to speak. That is a strong statement even if it is indirect. I doubt anything will come of this, however, since I doubt it would be found in Kirsten’s favor.
Joan “joked” that Jennifer Lawrence “f*cked her way to an Oscar,” implying that she slept with David O. Russell and/or Harvey Weinstein for it. Jen ignored it. It went away.
Joan is an idiot but Kristen is a bigger dolt for sicking her lawyers on her and showing her that she cared.
I did not think Jennifer Lawrence deserved the Oscar at all, on a side note.*