As you know, Rosie O’Donnell is returning to The View a full seven years after she left following a heated political argument with her co-panelist, Elisabeth Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck remained on the talkshow until last year, when she left to take her rightful place on Fox and Friends. In light of the news that Rosie was returning to The View, Hasselbeck spouted a bunch of sour grapes about how Rosie had “spit in the face of our military,” “insinuated that our own troops in Iraq were terrorists,” and was coming back to The View to control. Hasselbeck made incendiary, knee-jerk remarks about a stale argument from seven years ago, which is what she’s been trained to do on Fox.
Joy Behar, who was on The View from 1997 up until last year, was there to witness the original argument. She has some thoughts on why Rosie was re-hired, and on Elisabeth’s remarks about Rosie.
On Rosie coming back
She’ll probably bring ratings. She’s very edgy. Certain amount of danger to Rosie. I think that they’re looking to really soup up the show.On Elisabeth’s comments on Rosie
I thought that that was really kind of below the belt, to say that she spits in the face of the military. I’d like Elisabeth to explain herself, really. What does she mean by that? And isn’t it kind of a nasty thing to say about somebody who basically is a good person?Say what you want about Rosie O’Donnell, she’s a very generous person, she has a million kids, she’s always rescuing kids. She has more kids than Mrs. Duggar at this point.
Her son is at the Citadel. What more does Elisabeth want? To say ‘she spits in the face of the military’ that’s a dangerous thing to say about somebody. First of all it’s not true, I would like her to prove it… Everything’s fiction on Fox anyway. What am I talking about?
I would like her to explain it because it’s a hateful remark.
[From CNN video via The Wrap]
I agree with Joy that it was a dangerous, untrue thing to say but I don’t want Elisabeth to explain herself further because that would mean that she would continue talking.
In response to this controversy, Elisabeth (whom I assume is still on her vacation from Fox and Friends), tweeted a pink piece of paper with a frou-frou handwritten font on it. She cited Rosie’s original quote and wrote that “I don’t hate Rosie. I actually called to talk to her 7 years ago. She did not want to speak to me. I am happy to have a #momversation about why I would never defend her 2007 comments.”
A momversation? I’ve never heard that ridiculous term before.
Meanwhile, Whoopi addressed Elisabeth’s claim that she would have drama with Rosie. She said, on air, that “We are not little kids, we are grown ass women… I don’t fight with people, that’s not my way. Quit trying to make me into something I’m not. I’m not a little girl with cat claws. I am not a cat, I am a human being. I am a girl with a fist… The View is going to evolve as it always has. Quit trying to make something happen and let whatever’s going to happen, happen, and we hope you will join us when we come back.”
Jenny McCarthy, who was fired from The View last month along with Sherri Shepherd, had to chime in too. She said that she’s excited to see Rosie on the show and will “be there with my beer and popcorn at eleven in the morning.” McCarthy also claims that she’s going to make a big announcement today, presumably about her career. She teased “Everyone should do something they love doing but that shows off their strengths and have fun while doing it.” I bet McCarthy’s career move involves some kind of ‘health’ show on one of the lower rated cable networks.
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Elisabeth Hasselbeck is a former reality show participant, of course she has no class. I think anyone who is willing to put that much of themselves on national television for the sake of a prize or infamy or god know’s what is damaged goods. I exclude the people who appear on the skill based shows, but let’s face it, some of them are nuts too.
In fairness, Elizabeth was on the first season of Survivor, was she not? That is WAY before reality famewhores really got going. I’m not an Elizabeth fan but hey – she’s been smarter than everyone for a long time. Took a middling place finish on a reality show and turned it into a career. She says something dumb and we are talking about it a week later. So….who is REALLY nuts? LOL!
She was on the second season in the Outback, after “Survivor” had become a runaway hit. She knew what she was getting into (ie famewhore). She lasted as long as she did because she wasn’t a threat in any way.to the other contestants.
I’m pretty sure most of us do not aspire to be made fun of on a national level, and she may have parlayed her reality show exposure into a career but that does not mean she has any kind of credibility.
Rosie O’Donnel made comments suggesting that 9/11 was a hoax and that our very own governmen brought down those buildings. She has made comments suggesting that the military is not educated, is made up of felons, and that because we were in Iraq under false pretenses (9/11 hoax), our troops were in essense, the real terrorists.
She is an extremist. There should be no place for them on television. Fox, MSNBC, the lot of them, should go.
Let’s learn a little something about debate. When you put your opposition (Rosie) in the role of a caricature (extremist) you lose all credibility. You may have a legitimate complaint to be made but the vast majority of people will write you and your silly comments off immediately. This is a fundamental flaw of Faux news, they just can’t resist making clowns out of their opponents and all their arguments fall apart under the weight of all that venom. Pandering to people, telling them what they want to hear, is not news. Yes, divisive talk divides people but does it solve problems for any of us? NO.
pfft all these bitter and talentless people need to go away
Yep. This fake ‘controversy’ isn’t generating interest, it’s high school level bickering. I’m bored out of my gourd.
Gotta agree with you 110%, Kiddo. Boring and juvenile. Am surprised The View is even on the air anymore. They seem to want controversy only for the sake of controversy. Hardly entertaining much less interesting.
I just came here to say that I’ve never once seen The View and I hope I never do, because I can’t imagine that anyone of these women have anything even remotely interesting to say. Except maybe Whoopie, like 20 years ago.
I’ll burn a copy and ship it pronto, for you. Expect the drone delivery. (and by ‘drone’, I don’t mean the small aircraft)
I’m scared. Can you ship a flat screen TV and a box of donuts too? Thanks Kiddo, you da best. 😍
The ‘drone’ is this sound of these women conversing. Much more deadly than the Amazon delivery option, you might enter into a spontaneous coma from lack of brain activity.
Oh, and I’ve got about 5000 plastic necklaces I’ll send back, in case you need to pearl clutch.
A momversation? Oh, I get it. They have something in common, because they’re both mothers. So they share things that only mothers can understand. Like war is bad and animals. Because the rest of us are inferior human beings as we did not give birth. Uh oh, I see some of my own issues creeping into my comment. But still – gag me.
Exactly.
We’re all just….donut eaters. Literal donut-eaters.
I don’t know why I had my plain organic oatmeal with a touch of organic butter on top this morning. I really need to take myself and my cold, empty womb–let’s not forget the defining characteristic of my being, the cold, empty womb–and go to Dunkin Donuts.
If only I could be like Stacey Keibler! You, too, Good Names!
Sorry Frida_K, I’m too busy starting a war. Because my cold, empty womb prevents me from realizing that death is uncool. Witterawy. Sorry, had a donut in my mouth.
Hey, that was my donut. I’m ready to go to war over that donut! I can’t have kids so I might as well start wars since I can’t have conversations with Rosie and Elizabeth about kids.
Jeez, its not that you cold, empty womb-ers can’t understand that war is bad. It’s just that with the shared experience of creating and nurturing life, Elizabeth and Rosie must really better understand the world’s problems. They really FEEL things, duh, and can’t possibly make bad decisions because they make decisions For The Children.
It’s just a stupid, stupid thing to say. I’m actually surprised the second half of her sentence didn’t bug you – “I would defend blah blah blah”. As though Rosie O’Donnell needs Elizabeth Hasselbeck to defend her viewpoints to make them valid. What a moron.
Just because you have a cold empty womb does not mean it’s time to have an excuse to literally stuff your face with donuts. Jeez.
+a billion to this whole thread. Brilliant.
It’s so nice to know that it is still 100% socially acceptable to pretend parenthood magically endows people with super-specialness that the rest of us can never attain. Once we all join that exclusive club, every thing is peaches and cream. All the problems of the world must surely come from us “non-moms” who can’t have “momversations”.
I can finally see the family resemblance between Jenny and Melissa McCarthy with this pic.
I still find it hilarious that they hired Jenny McCarthy and fired her that quick. I mean, honestly–what were they expecting from her? They knew what they were getting.
I think they thought Jenny would bring a new audience. She used to be on MTV and her son is autistic. She also wrote several books that did really well. I think Barbara Walters assumed she would bring in the Gen X people who watched her on MTV and mothers with special needs children. They probably thought she had a built in audience.
She’d only bring in a male audience. I have yet to hear, see, read of any female on the planet who is interested in McCarthy’s political views. Frankly, it seems pretty stupid to think bringing in a pair of giant fake tata’s would increase ratings of a female audience. duuurp!
If they had done it 8-10 years ago, it may have had a chance. I mean, people did buy enough of her first book to warrant more books to be written. I think it’s more the fact that the people that make The View (and honestly, most network television in general) are just sadly behind the times. If you think about it that way, of course it makes sense that they’d hire an aging sex symbol that has alienated most of her fan base.
I think they seriously miscalculated not only that Jenny McCarthy would not bring in viewers, that she would actually repel them – I don’t think anyone, woman or man, wants to hear her views on anything. She’s just not very smart or interesting.
Yayyyy Joy!!! wish she would come back too…her own talk show was amazing too.
OT, but have you ever tried her lasagne recipe? It’s really good.
She has a lasagna recipe? Do you have a link?
I’m sorry I’m too stupid to link, but you can just Google “Joy Behar’s Lasagne” and you’ll hit it.
GoodNames: “I’m sorry I’m too stupid to link, but you can just Google “Joy Behar’s Lasagne” and you’ll hit it.”
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This made me laugh out loud, and mostly because I can totally relate.
JudyK, it was embarrassing, but sort of hard to deny. Lol get off my lawn!
I still just can’t believe that she actually called in that mess from her vacation. Seriously? I could’ve seen her commenting if she had been on air (or whatever it is that she does now–Fox and Friends sounds like a cartoon for little kids), but not even in the country? At least leave with SOME dignity. Don’t let the entire world know that you’re the smaller person.
How nice and mature would it have been for Elizabeth to say that she’s happy to see another woman in a position to espouse her opinions–whether or not they agree with each other or not?
You catch more flies with honey than vinegar, Elizabeth.
She works for Fox. Her dignity was done away with some time ago.
“Don’t let the entire world know that you’re the smaller person.”
we already knew.
You can catch more with a huge pile of crap. Just sayin. LOL
I just think it would’ve been really mature if she had said something along the lines of ‘I wish Rosie the best in her career.’ DONE.
Of course, I am still remembering GoodNames’ (I think) story about how she had two jobs, quit one of them to go full time at a job that said they could take her for two years, and then fired her two weeks later…..and then she didn’t freak out or cuss them all out (like I would’ve wanted to), but acted professionally. Elizabeth may not EVER be going back to The View, but if she ever gets kicked off that stupid Fox and Friends show (seriously–it sounds like a cartoon), and I was a tv exec, I wouldn’t want to hire her.
Can we just put them all in a boxing ring and let them have at one another? My money is on Whoopi.
Me too. Don’t mess with Whoopi.
“Momversation” doesn’t even work as a pun.
Poor, stupid woman!
“We are not little kids, we are grown ass women… I don’t fight with people, that’s not my way. Quit trying to make me into something I’m not. I’m not a little girl with cat claws. I am not a cat, I am a human being. I am a girl with a fist… The View is going to evolve as it always has. Quit trying to make something happen and let whatever’s going to happen, happen, and we hope you will join us when we come back.”
And ‘this’ is why I like Whoopi Goldberg. She and Rosie ‘earned’ their celebrity with years of hard work and actual talent. They’ve both worked their way up through the ranks by paying their dues in small clubs and enduring a few harsh financial years and the beginning.
Whoopi has a low ‘bull shite’ threshold and Rosie isn’t shy about confronting issues and people who do stupid things. I think they’ll make a wonderful team and will work together better than people think. 🙂
Actually, I believe Elizabeth Hasselbeck is the only one Barbara hired who was there for her ‘sensationalism’ rather than talent. As far as I know the only thing on her resume was being a contestant on “Survivor.” Even Star Jones brought something to the show … she has a law degree and spent years as a NYC Prosecutor.
Whoopi has said some truly dumb-ass things. Rape-rape, anyone? People in Canada don’t know the negative connotation of the N word, anyone?
I have to ask – what does Canada have to do with it?
Look back at Bieber and his tapes. Whoopi was doing mental gymnastics trying to come up with an excuse for why Bieber’s use of the N word was benign. She is an apologist for many bad acts, provided they are committed by big celebrities.
https://www.tmz.com/2014/06/04/justin-bieber-singing-one-less-lonely-n-word-video-girl/
Yes, Whoopi in the past has said some really dumb and hurtful things. That doesn’t take away from the fact that her comments on this situation are the most level headed and right of everyone involved.
if I recall correctly, she also defended Mel Gibson.
I was responding to this quote, “Whoopi has a low ‘bull shite’ threshold”, in general, to which I say, um, NO. Her threshold for manufacturing BS is pretty damn high.
Agree, Kiddo. I used to like her, but I’ve been astounded by the total insensitivity and stupidity of many of her comments.
@Kiddo, who wrote: “I was responding to this quote, “Whoopi has a low ‘bull shite’ threshold”, in general, to which I say, um, NO. Her threshold for manufacturing BS is pretty damn high.”
Sorry, I didn’t realize you were talking to me. I Googled it so I could get Whoopi’s ‘Justin Bieber’ quote right … and here it is (from an “E!Online” article):
“He’s issued an apology saying he was too young to understand and he’s Canadian. There’s a reason I say this,” Goldberg said. “You know, Canadian words — I’m going to say the word so get ready to beep me. N—-r doesn’t mean anything in Canada.”
“I don’t mean to say Canadians have been throwing it around,” she added. “I don’t think, that when they hear the songs everyone is playing, and every other word is n—-r…What I’m saying is that, when you are 15 and you’re someplace where that’s not a word that you have associated with people of color, they weren’t calling them that.”
I’m not a fan of Justin Bieber, but I don’t have a problem with him saying the ‘N’ word either in the context he did when he ‘was’ 15-years-old. I don’t understand why anyone was surprised by his use of the word. The boy has been imitating the style/and lifestyle of black rappers for a few years now. He apologized and he is from London, Ontario. The City is midway between Detroit and Toronto, but that doesn’t mean he visited either before being discovered. Is London, Ontario a culturally/racially diverse city like Detroit and Toronto? If not, if it’s a fairly homogenized city then Whoopi has a point.
Whoopi is right in saying that popular rap songs have the ‘N’ word every other sentence. Moreover, Whoopi and I are the same age. I’ve seen and learned enough about her over the years to have formed an opinion on who she is and what she stands for. I certainly won’t dismiss everything she is and has done based upon a comment in defense of a kid still trying to discover his path and belief system. I also don’t understand Whoopi’s adamant parsing of the legal words used in Roman Polanski’s legal case. It sounded like she was trying to explain her opinion that rape is different from ‘sex with a minor.’ Perhaps this stems from the fact that Whoopi was 17-years-old when she gave birth to her daughter, and that her daughter got pregnant when she was 15-years-old (making Whoopi a grandmother when she was 34-years-old).
And yes, Whoopi has proven to ‘me’ over the years that she does indeed have a low tolerance for bull shite.
Polanski supposedly drugged and then sexually assaulted a minor. The girl didn’t intend to have sex with Polanski. Whoopie’s parsing of the situation, in my opinion, was grasping at any excuse to mitigate a terrible act. But everyone is entitled to admire or like whoever they wish. I still stand by my assertion that she minimizes things that relate to bad celebrity behavior. We will have to agree to disagree on her “threshold”.
@Emma
Your justifications of her justifications of abhorrent behavior are completely baffling to me. People in Canada don’t know that the N word is derogatory because it’s in rap songs, and they have no other frame of reference, such as history, movies, conversations, newspapers? And rape of a minor isn’t “rape-rape” because Whoopi had sex at a young age? Wow.
to GoodNamesAllTaken (I won’t call you GNAT!):
When Whoopi first mounted that “defense” of bieber, a WHOLE LOTTA Canadians basically said the same thing that you just did.
as in, the idea that Canadians wouldn’t know that that word is offensive, or that the word “doesn’t mean anything” in Canada is a TOTAL CROCK.
and that was just on this site…I imagine Canadians all over the world took offense to her “defense”.
I have to jump in because I’m from that area. He’s from Stratford, ON, which is home to the Stratford Festival (a several months long theatre season with special emphasis on Shakespeare), and is the living embodiment of Star’s Hollow for any Gilmore Girls fans. I don’t live there have been there a million times for as many reasons and I enjoy their pastries and stained glass. It’s a really big tourist attraction, so people of all sorts flood in and out for about five months a year. Stratford is not the sticks and it isn’t as though Ontario runs on the Pony Express, so there’s a huge amount of familiarity in that area. That’s how people here know that Avril Lavigne was something of a brat.
The city also has a pretty prominent white supremacist following. So whether it’s diverse or not, the racists know who they hate and how to identify them. Funny story, I was chased by by a skinhead there.
London isn’t anywhere near Detroit, is it possible that you’re thinking of Windsor? London really isn’t that far from Toronto, anyone can hop on Greyhound many times a day and drive the distance in about three hours. And that Greyhound speed, so you it’s adjusted for time. Stratford is much closer to Toronto than it is to London but I can assure you that in that town and any town in the whole of the country, people know EXACTLY what the n-word means and they know it well before the age of 15– many just don’t care. Don’t be fooled, Canada is frequently a really racist country, just ask the First Nations.
Everyone from that area has been to Toronto because it’s an hour away from Stratford. You want to a sporting event or a big concert or some lame work event, go shopping, or go on a school field trip, you go to Toronto. He’d likely have been to London, which has some native diversity and a big diverse university, but there is an element of patrician snobbery that at times makes it unpleasant for minorities.
Canada had slavery, too. There’s never context for that language. He knew, he was just trying to be ‘street’ and thought he’d been given a ‘hood pass’. Noooooope. This was one time where there wasn’t a black kid to take the fall for him. I think he sees Black people as authenticity signifiers and fashion accessories and shortcuts to coolness that can be mined before they become trends. I think he thought he had the inside track that gave him to privilege of not having to check his privilege. So, more than I think that he’s an active racist I think he is powerfully, profoundly, preposterously, stoooopid and lacks the humility, self-awareness and doggedly attached to his entitlement and lack of want of acquiring self-awareness to be introspective and slough off the obvious ignorance of his early life.
As for Whoopi, to make a comparison, it would be like her saying, that Polanski couldn’t have raped that girl because they don’t have any context for the concept of sexual assault in Europe and no one told him that adults shouldn’t make advances on children–which makes no sense. I don’t understand the teen pregnancy bit.
There is a tendency to fashion Canada into what supports the argument: one day it’s corny old America Jr. who only wants to be as cool as the guys down below (‘America’s Hat’), the next day it’s a snow-capped netherworld completely cut off from the ‘real world’ and the streets are clean, we all have the same ‘blunt force trauma to the head’ accent and nothing is as it seems– but everyone is nice and ‘hockey very much’ and we close down at 7:00: so quaint. The next day, it’s a socialist paradise or hellscape, depending on your political affiliations.
In this instance, it’s clearly the ‘What the Canada?’ mould. I don’t know what the purpose of the constant re-characterisation is, but here we are.
Okay … here’s a joint response to all of you.
I ‘know’ where London, Ontario is because I Google mapped it. My father lived in Detroit and I have visited the city (and Windsor) so I know where Windsor is in relation to Detroit. If you’ll carefully read my post you’ll see that I said London, Ontario is situation ‘mid-way’ between Detroit and Toronto … and if you look at a map of the area, it does. It’s nearly an equal distance and I didn’t say he couldn’t have gone to either city, just that none of us ‘know’ that he did.
There are white supremacists in pockets of Canada (as there are all over America)? Do you think I don’t know that? Do you think Whoopi Goldberg doesn’t know that? Are you all saying that it ‘not’ what Justin Bieber hinted at in his apology? Hence her point (and mine), not ‘justification.’ If Bieber grew up in an atmosphere where people of color were demeaned and hated, and (more importantly) not associated with, how could he know that people of color aren’t really different from him and that what he said was wrong? Now he knows. He apologized and said he’d spoken out of ignorance because of where he came where.
There is no justification here, just tolerance and giving this dumb kid the benefit of doubt. Do you think Miley Cyrus didn’t grow up in a similar environment? Like Justin Bieber, Miley is also allowing herself to experience all the colors, flavor, sight and sounds of the human rainbow. We must allow youngsters a chance to grow.
Canadians are offended at Whoopi for referencing Canada as a possible reason for Bieber’s ignorance in using the ‘N’ word? Why? There are pockets of white supremacists in every Red and Blue State in the U.S. If we know they’re there, why would we be offended by people in other Nations saying so?
Roman Polanski? I think I said I don’t understand her defense of him and gave reasons as to ‘why’ she may feel the way she does about the difference between the act of rape and having sex with a minor. No where did I say that ‘I’ don’t have a problem with what Roman Polanski is accused of, just that Whoopi may have gotten caught up in the parsing of his charges do to her own family history.
Again, none of this affects my opinion of Whoopi Goldberg … like it or not; that’s your prerogative.
I’m with Kiddo. Whoopie’s got a few too many sunbeams in her attic to take seriously. Some of her comments are heinously ignorant.
I kinda wish they would bring Star back! I know I’m probably the only one who ever liked her, but back when I would occasionally watch the View, I really enjoyed Star.
You’re not alone. 🙂
Take it from this Canadian–we know *exactly* how awful a certain racial epithet is and white Canadians who use it are considered scum of the earth here. Trust. Beiber’s excuse is high-octane BS.
if my note came off as too standoffish I sincerely apologize, I didn’t mean for it to be so. Whoopi is still full of it on this one.
Whoopi is the only one that bought that ‘I am a foreigner’ malarkey’. A country can’t know everything about another country but Canada is a bit like the next door neighbour to a house part: you’re not necessarily there but you’re very aware of a lot of what’s happening. So, even if it weren’t a thing (which it is, like in tons of places) something would’ve come down the pipeline. I think she’s sometimes on the mark but I also think she has bestowed upon herself the position an elder statesman of the show because she’s the least shrill. That can be a blessing, but it can also be exhausting.
Nothing about her reasoning on this one makes sense. He knows about the KKK, he knows about lynching and all of that, so he understands the context of the word enough to make jokes about it. He seems to know a decent amount about the history and trappings of n-word but he doesn’t understand the n-word itself? That’s weird. He’s laughing at all of the ‘right parts’, so don’t think that he doesn’t understand as is just parroting. I guess he’s not going to know why he can’t wear a war bonnet next. There are people telling him to put the kibosh on the joke when he uses the word, but he still ‘goes for it’.
And to blame the music industry–yes, I’d be happier if Black artists didn’t use the n-word, but at this point and for a long time, that argument has been a cop out of feigned ignorance. At any rate, he is the music industry, and we’re to believe that someone who lives in that world and has been around so many Black people for almost half of his life hasn’t been told about ‘The Difference’ based on who is saying it? I don’t buy it. I think he was bloviating to his posse think he was all cool and was put in his place. I hadn’t met all that many gay people when I was 15, but the f-word was out of bounds. It reminds me of the Dave Chappelle bit, ‘How old is 15, really?’.
He can be as ignorant as he wants but he shouldn’t spread misinformation and blame the nation for being so cut off from history, especially since a lot of history and history is also our own in order to soften the fall.
I can’t stand any of these people! They are all nuts! However, after Rosie said she believed that the US govt. was really the ones that blew up the World Trade Center, I feel that she is an extra special NUT! I hope no one watches and the View just goes away!
Whoopi’s a Truther? Who knew.
Rosie is a truther, sort of. She says no way the 3rd world trade center building comes down without some sort of “special” intervention, meaning the force of the other two buildings coming down was not enough to bring the 3rd down. So, not full blown truther, i.e, US and Israel are behind the attacks themselves, but sort of a truther. I’m not aware of the bashing of the military comments other than she has said that the US and, therefore, by extension, its military, are terrorists (as related to the Iraq war). Which, eh, not quite the same as saying the men in uniform suck, but some can spin it that way.
Rosie is a complete nut job as is Whoopie as is every human they’ve ever had hosting that stupid show. Whatever. Never watched it, never will.
I am with MrsBPitt n this one. I marvel at how every woman who has ever been on The View has managed to be c*nty in her own special way. That show has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
They are all nuts. Truth.
Yeah, this. Rosie is crazy in a bad way. And Whoopie just wants money, she doesn’t even have a real opinion anymore.
These women were hired to be opinionated, which gets them ratings…I just hate the way they are used by both “sides” as examples of what a democrat/republican women in America think. The hyperbole is exactly what producers probably want them to do, but I think it is kind of harmful to national dialogue about political issues.
I want to punch most of these women in the face, and it makes me mad that I have hair envy from that picture of Jenny McCarthy.
My thoughts as well. 🙁
I loved Joy’s HLN show — I wish it had lasted. Still perplexed why it was canceled.
She was a terrible interviewer, she didn’t bring out the best in guests. She had Amy Sedaris on, who is delightfully whimsical, but Behar managed to make the entire thing fall flat by not playing along or saying something funny, for example. She always seemed to dominate, but didn’t have the charisma to pull it off. The best show was her last show, when her guests took over.
Kiddo – I agree! I watched Joy’s HLN show a few times and she was a terrible interviewer. Sometimes there were awkward pauses between her and the guest. Sometimes they would all talk at the same time…really bad interview skills!
Yes, it was BAD.
“I’m happy to have a #momversation about why I would never defend her 2007 comments”
Yeesh. A #momversation? As though their viewpoints and arguments will automatically be equal because they both have children? And I don’t think Rosie O’Donnell needs anyone to defend her, much less Hasselbeck.
Hasselbeck literally 🙂 makes me sick to my stomach. There is a valid conservative viewpoint, I guess, but she never presented it. She screeched, and irrationally babbled, and then cried. OMG.
And the rest of those idiots screeched and screamed over each other…Hasselbeck was awful, but so were the others….they give conservatives AND liberals a bad name!!!!
WHY would Rosie even want to be on the View?
This sounds like a stupid family fight except it it’s not your family and you don’t have to show up or watch or care. Hasselbeck is just trying to up her FOX bone fides by poking the bear again. Or, maybe the whole thing is a PR trick. Anyway. Will not be watching.
The View has always been a joke to me. I don’t like the way women come out looking. Rosie may be a good person, but she’s offensive and crass and I wouldn’t want to watch her. That being said, people like Hasselbeck are far worse, IMO.
I hate the View. The women are so rude and they yell over each other. No one has any respect for each other. It should have been cancelled long ago.
Could not agree more!
I didn’t realize Rosie had a son in the military. That makes Elisabeth’s comments especially gross. I can’t believe she’s STILL talking about comments literally made in 2007. That’s getting close to a decade ago. Very small of her.
I don’t believe he is in the military, but goes to a military school…(although, I’m not sure, does that make him in the military???)
Looks like it’s all military training, but does not equal enlistment in the military itself. Though I’d imagine many who graduate from there enlist or find work in a related field.
The Citadel is mostly cadets but they have civilian students as well.
Do some research on Rosie’s comments back in 2007…then you will know why
FFS just cancel the show already
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The Citadel is a military college, and graduates enter the Army as butter-bar lieutenants. Her son went to Valley Forge Military for his high school. He plans to be a military officer.
So, Elisabeth, how is Rosie possibly sacrificing the life of her eldest son in service to his country “spitting in the face” of our military? Rosie is anti-war, so her support for her son is even more impressive.
Joy Behar for president! 🙂
Elizabeth has always reminded me of Sarah Palin– they’re both dumb as stumps. However, when you’re having a bad day Youtube Elizabeth talking about pretty much anything– it’s a real pick-me-up, always good for a laugh.
“I just want to say something. 655,000 Iraqi civilians are dead. Who are the terrorists?” An appalled co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck demanded: “Wait, who are you calling terrorists now? Americans?” O’Donnell stood her ground: “I’m saying if you were in Iraq, and the other country, the United States, the richest in the world, invaded your country and killed 655,000 of your citizens, what would you call us?”
So what exactly did Rosie mean? I don’t know how to take it other than implying that our troops are terrorists? I don’t have a dog in this fight; I am pretty certain that they are both obnoxious idiots. However, I’m not sure how else one can take Rosie’ s comment.
Really? You don’t see any reason to reflect on the that fact? You think that suggesting that someone consider that level casualty from the another point of view implies that American troops are terrorists? I’m not accepting Hasselbeck’s oversimplification.
She said, “who are the terrorists?” What else could she have meant?
Thank you! Rosie never clarified those statements. She went on to say that our government brought down the World Trade Centers. O’Donnell also said on the View she “feels bad for Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (alleged mastermind of 9/11 attacks), because being called a “terrorist” robs him of his humanity. All things she said in 2007.
She still believes that Al Queda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks, that we did it ourselves. That jet fule, fire, and airplanes cannot bring down a building.
There is something mentally wrong with her, without question.
Seriously, she thinks that? I had no idea. Good Lord.
I used to watch it back then. I forgot about all that, but I do remember that fight and the general lunacy. Now that you mention it, though, I remember. LITERALLY SMH.
She’s a truther? Oy.
Thank you! She’s a typical Hollywood Liberal hypocrite. Killing a hammerhead shark but pro PETA. Pro gun control but has armed bodyguard(s). She couldn’t even hack it on a flailing network like OWN. Don’t even get me started on Elizabeth Hassel-bot’s regurgitated right wing nonsense.
While I don’t know about her statements regarding the buildings on 9/11, IMO, in the comments you posted she is talking about perspective. The United States military did kill a lot of people in the Iraq war, hundreds of thousands of them were civilians. I think she was saying that going to war creates a consequence that you cannot deny: Innocent people die and this will impact innocent Iraqi peoples’ views of the US.
I think it is an ENTIRELY different thing to say that she is implying that the “troops” are terrorists, and not that the US MILITARY made a poor decision to go to war. Whenever someone disagrees with the choice of war, it is a right-wing tactic to imply that the comments were personal about “troops”, when many times it is a critique of the military industrial complex. The war machine, not the troops themselves. It is possible to fully support the troops, and at the same time disagree in the way that their sacrifice is used by the US military.
Okay, that I can understand. Thank you.
Our country is responsible for a lot of death in the Middle East, you may not like it but it’s a hard fact. I understand why people want this to be an argument about supporting the troops and calling people terrorists because none of us want to admit our part in that nasty mess. We all have a lot of blood on our hands and some of our troops did some awful stuff over there, lying about it isn’t going to change it. Scapegoating Rosie isn’t going to change it either.
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I know it’s the next day, but I hope you get this just so I can clarify. I was not commenting on the accuracy of her statement. I was just saying that to me she was saying that we were terrorist. I can completely understand how people in Iraq or Afghanistan could feel that way. When I watched it on the split screen years ago I understood what she was saying. What I didn’t understand was how she was saying that Elizabeth should’ve stood up for her when to me it was clear that she was implying that the perspective that they have is that we are Terrorists. At that point in time and perhaps still now of course they felt that way.
The first word that comes to mind re: EH is JEALOUS.
Being that freaked out that Rosie got a job makes no sense unless she’s jealous. Or dying for attention. Which relates to the jealousy.
“Hasselbeck made incendiary, knee-jerk remarks about a stale argument from seven years ago, which is what she’s been trained to do on Fox.”….. Trained? Animals are trained, not human beings! Pitiful comment.
Guess you’ve never heard of potty-training? Must be rough.
#momversation?
Sit down, you twit.
I have to say that I (mostly) like Joy Behar when she was on The View – from day 1.
But given her apparent support for Rosie, I only have one thing to say to Joy . . . GO F#@& YOURSELF, Joy Behar.
And for Rosie, it’s a given for me – after her persistent thrashing of those whom disagreed with her politics, F#@& YOU, Rosie O’D.
With O’D now part of the new cast, I will NEVER watch The View until she is FIRED AGAIN!!
Course, I could tell you all what I really thing . . . but why vent when it’s so nice outside today.
Martin (another BmonGmon)
That eye-makeup on McCarthy = shudder. Ladies, enough with the hard eye-tracing. Yuck.