Comments on: Slumdog Millionaire child stars go to Disneyland http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/ Stylish celebrity escapism Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:16:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bros http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-218377 bros Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:44:55 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-218377 i know its a late post and probably no one is reading, but celebitchy, you should do a write up of this: http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/the-real-roots-of-the-slumdog-protests/?ex=1251003600&en=23dcf76fa0f19672&ei=5087&WT.mc_id=OP-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M083-ROS-0209-HDR&WT.mc_ev=click#chitra the nytimes does a really good job of getting a behind-the-scenes explanation of the political climate in which all this controversy is being stoked and instigated. as i mentioned before, this is all politically motivated because of india's internal political conditions and has much less to do with boyle or the movie. check it out! i know its a late post and probably no one is reading, but celebitchy, you should do a write up of this:
http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/20/the-real-roots-of-the-slumdog-protests/?ex=1251003600&en=23dcf76fa0f19672&ei=5087&WT.mc_id=OP-D-I-NYT-MOD-MOD-M083-ROS-0209-HDR&WT.mc_ev=click#chitra

the nytimes does a really good job of getting a behind-the-scenes explanation of the political climate in which all this controversy is being stoked and instigated. as i mentioned before, this is all politically motivated because of india’s internal political conditions and has much less to do with boyle or the movie. check it out!

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]]> By: lrm http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217512 lrm Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:53:54 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217512 Again,as stated on a previous thread on this topic-it is very VERY American to say 'oh,impulsively,this is what we must do b/c it's injust to leave them there'. Honestly,it's not so much that it's a 'grey area',but that sometimes well intended actions have ill intended consequences. This is not the first time an issue like this has had to be mulled over and decided upon. It will not be best in all likelihood to suddently rip the children from their social fabric,immerse them in a new value system [even if it's in mumbai,there are huge differences between classes] and expect that they will be better off simply b/c they have running water and money. Yes,medical care for the dad would be good-and yes,current environment makes TB hard to treat. That aside,I don't understand why the OP writers do not see the parallels? EX: Child stars in america whose parents bankrupt them,who have filed for emancipation at a young age? OR,people who win the lottery and are broke a year or 5 yrs later. It IS a process of education to integrate money and recognition into one's life. I think Boyle has considered this,as well as those who would take advantage of someone in this situation...[think Anne Hathaway was taken for a ride? Imagine this scenario.]And Boyle has determined that allowing for some awareness of how to handle the money,education and new status,would be far more beneficial than ripping them away=People,esp. children,rely for life [we are biologically wired for bonding,it's called the polyvagal theory-our nervous systems are wired for it]on their social networks. And India,like most places in the world,relies on extended community,not just the nuclear family. Hey,it's even been researched that childrren are often better off in an abusive situation,emotionally/psychologically,than taking them away from their mothers,esp. the younger they are. I know this makes no sense on many levels,but I need to point out how intricate and integral community life is to human survival. Would the children be irreparably harmed if Boyle moved them out pronto and/or simply gave their families their trust now? Probably not,but my odds are on the fact that they'd end up destitute again within a few years. I believe he made the right choice. Time will tell. Check back in 10 yrs and see what the kids think then. Adn wonder what the Dad thinks now? Sure,reporters go in and film the conditions,but has he been quoted as to what he would like as a parent? What do the parents want? Again,as stated on a previous thread on this topic-it is very VERY American to say ‘oh,impulsively,this is what we must do b/c it’s injust to leave them there’.
Honestly,it’s not so much that it’s a ‘grey area’,but that sometimes well intended actions have ill intended consequences. This is not the first time an issue like this has had to be mulled over and decided upon.
It will not be best in all likelihood to suddently rip the children from their social fabric,immerse them in a new value system [even if it's in mumbai,there are huge differences between classes] and expect that they will be better off simply b/c they have running water and money.
Yes,medical care for the dad would be good-and yes,current environment makes TB hard to treat.
That aside,I don’t understand why the OP writers do not see the parallels?
EX: Child stars in america whose parents bankrupt them,who have filed for emancipation at a young age?
OR,people who win the lottery and are broke a year or 5 yrs later.
It IS a process of education to integrate money and recognition into one’s life.
I think Boyle has considered this,as well as those who would take advantage of someone in this situation…[think Anne Hathaway was taken for a ride? Imagine this scenario.]And Boyle has determined that allowing for some awareness of how to handle the money,education and new status,would be far more beneficial than ripping them away=People,esp. children,rely for life [we are biologically wired for bonding,it's called the polyvagal theory-our nervous systems are wired for it]on their social networks. And India,like most places in the world,relies on extended community,not just the nuclear family.
Hey,it’s even been researched that childrren are often better off in an abusive situation,emotionally/psychologically,than taking them away from their mothers,esp. the younger they are.
I know this makes no sense on many levels,but I need to point out how intricate and integral community life is to human survival.

Would the children be irreparably harmed if Boyle moved them out pronto and/or simply gave their families their trust now? Probably not,but my odds are on the fact that they’d end up destitute again within a few years. I believe he made the right choice. Time will tell. Check back in 10 yrs and see what the kids think then. Adn wonder what the Dad thinks now?
Sure,reporters go in and film the conditions,but has he been quoted as to what he would like as a parent? What do the parents want?

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]]> By: Bros http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217505 Bros Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:45:16 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217505 well baho, apparently it isnt going to medical care for the father, which is what i think annie is pointing out. well baho, apparently it isnt going to medical care for the father, which is what i think annie is pointing out.

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]]> By: Baholicious http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217469 Baholicious Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:04:19 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217469 And again Annie, I agree it's possible about the asking for more money thing. That's kind of a thing in India, they do it with dowries all the time (and that's supposed to be outlawed too). Indian society is also one where haggling in business is just part of doing business. Anyway, People have to remember, these are simple people with NOTHING. They get money, the first thing they're going to do with it is acquire trappings of what they consider 'Western success.' I bet they've gotten a t.v. and a generator to hook it up to; some Nike or Adidas wear. Who knows. What I do know is that they're not meeting with financial advisors and investing their 3 grand apiece. They're going to buy what they need or want now - just like everybody else in the world does. And again Annie, I agree it’s possible about the asking for more money thing. That’s kind of a thing in India, they do it with dowries all the time (and that’s supposed to be outlawed too). Indian society is also one where haggling in business is just part of doing business.

Anyway,

People have to remember, these are simple people with NOTHING. They get money, the first thing they’re going to do with it is acquire trappings of what they consider ‘Western success.’ I bet they’ve gotten a t.v. and a generator to hook it up to; some Nike or Adidas wear. Who knows. What I do know is that they’re not meeting with financial advisors and investing their 3 grand apiece.

They’re going to buy what they need or want now – just like everybody else in the world does.

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]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217440 Annie Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:31:08 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217440 done* Damn you lack of editting feature. Also, I'm reading now that the family has been asking for more and more money and then not using it for the purposes they claim (ie: getting themselves out of the slum.) done* Damn you lack of editting feature.

Also, I’m reading now that the family has been asking for more and more money and then not using it for the purposes they claim (ie: getting themselves out of the slum.)

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]]> By: Annie http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217432 Annie Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:21:18 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217432 From what I've heard, more IS being dumb and that Mr. Boyle has safeguarded their future from beggars/swindlers/blackmailers etc etc. All of whom come a dime a dozen in the slums. We're talking exploiting anyone for anything. And now that it's out that these children have money, could you imagine how terrible it could get? Also, I read somewhere that he offered to move them out of the slums and into America but the kids didn't want to and the family didn't want to because their everything was there. From what I’ve heard, more IS being dumb and that Mr. Boyle has safeguarded their future from beggars/swindlers/blackmailers etc etc. All of whom come a dime a dozen in the slums. We’re talking exploiting anyone for anything.

And now that it’s out that these children have money, could you imagine how terrible it could get?

Also, I read somewhere that he offered to move them out of the slums and into America but the kids didn’t want to and the family didn’t want to because their everything was there.

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]]> By: Baholicious http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217369 Baholicious Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:51:25 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217369 We're not talking about the entire child populations of the slums, we're talking a few children here. Certainly more can be done for them during the interim of the 3k salary and later schooling, particularly for the child's father who has TB. I think bringing them to the Oscars and Disneyland would have been a genuinely memorable experience for these children and I honestly hope they enjoyed themselves tremendously. And Kiki just so you know, 'Slumdog' is a pejorative term. The people who live like this are properly called 'Dalits.' We’re not talking about the entire child populations of the slums, we’re talking a few children here. Certainly more can be done for them during the interim of the 3k salary and later schooling, particularly for the child’s father who has TB.

I think bringing them to the Oscars and Disneyland would have been a genuinely memorable experience for these children and I honestly hope they enjoyed themselves tremendously.

And Kiki just so you know, ‘Slumdog’ is a pejorative term. The people who live like this are properly called ‘Dalits.’

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]]> By: geronimo http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217296 geronimo Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:31:46 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217296 CB - you're looking at this from your perspective not the kids'. You're seeing the disparity between what they're enjoying now at Disneyland and the life they have to return to. It's a compassionate perspective, I completely understand it, but it's yours not theirs and not necessarily a realistic one. Again, I'm with Bros here, Boyle can't take on single-handedly the failures of the Indian government. I'm sure he and others involved with 'Slumdog' are doing and will continue to do what they can to try and ensure a hopeful future for these kids. CB – you’re looking at this from your perspective not the kids’. You’re seeing the disparity between what they’re enjoying now at Disneyland and the life they have to return to. It’s a compassionate perspective, I completely understand it, but it’s yours not theirs and not necessarily a realistic one.

Again, I’m with Bros here, Boyle can’t take on single-handedly the failures of the Indian government. I’m sure he and others involved with ‘Slumdog’ are doing and will continue to do what they can to try and ensure a hopeful future for these kids.

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]]> By: tigerlille http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217293 tigerlille Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:24:52 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217293 To bring the children to the Oscars ceremony and take them to Disney World, and then return them to the same life threatening conditions in India, when the same amount of money could have secured safe housing, some degree of health care and education for these children and their families might be seen as a cynical publicity stunt and obscene exploitation. I don't think that it is hard to understand what would be unfair about the above scenario. Hopefully, the children can enjoy the trip, and they and their families can be given safe housing. an opportunity for education, and a better future. The cost of doing these things in India is pretty insignificant, particularly in light of what the film has grossed. To bring the children to the Oscars ceremony and take them to Disney World, and then return them to the same life threatening conditions in India, when the same amount of money could have secured safe housing, some degree of health care and education for these children and their families might be seen as a cynical publicity stunt and obscene exploitation. I don’t think that it is hard to understand what would be unfair about the above scenario.

Hopefully, the children can enjoy the trip, and they and their families can be given safe housing. an opportunity for education, and a better future. The cost of doing these things in India is pretty insignificant, particularly in light of what the film has grossed.

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]]> By: texasmom http://www.celebitchy.com/38141/slumdog_millionaire_child_stars_go_to_disneyland/#comment-217264 texasmom Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:38:46 +0000 http://www.celebitchy.com/?p=38141#comment-217264 Remember these aren't generic kids in a generic slum, these are particular kids who helped make a fantastically successful film that enriched a whole bunch of adults. Remember these aren’t generic kids in a generic slum, these are particular kids who helped make a fantastically successful film that enriched a whole bunch of adults.

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