Personally, I’ve always thought Mariah Carey was pretty crazy. Not like “girl, you’re so crazy” but more like “Mariah broke from reality years ago and she lives in a bizarre fantasy world that occasionally implodes” kind of crazy. Remember when she seemed cracked-out with Carson Daly during an episode of TRL? Remember her meltdown in front of another set of cameras when her publicist was literally dragging her away? And I’m sure there have been many other incidents like that, where she’s “suffered from exhaustion” and needed to “go away for a little bit.” While I feel sympathy for her for what could be a legitimate psychological condition, I don’t really have sympathy for how she maintains a cadre of sycophants and yes-men who literally carry her around and prop her up so she can pose (just on one side). At some point, that isn’t cute anymore. And I guess Nick Cannon reached his breaking point. TMZ says that he abandoned her (the horror!) because she’s crazy and their children have no structure.
Nick Cannon is the one who decided to bail on his marriage — not Mariah — sources connected with the couple tell TMZ. Nick has made it clear to all involved … he’s deeply concerned about Mariah’s emotional state and is ending the marriage for the well-being of their kids. He believes the environment around Mariah is toxic and fears for his kids.
We’re told Nick believes his kids have already shown signs of emotional upset living with Mariah. Our sources say Nick’s MO is simple … he wants to create an environment separate from Mariah that gives the kids a safe haven from the “chaos” at her home.
Nick is also telling his people he’s deeply concerned about Mariah’s mental health and believes her people don’t care about anything but her ability to make money and pay their salaries.
And finally we’re told Nick is taking a “passive” role in the divorce … telling his lawyers to take the path of least resistance to end things as peacefully as possible.
If this was some random couple or any other celebrity couple, I would be side-eyeing this whole “My estranged wife is crazy, I’m just a decent father looking out for his kids” argument. Loads of divorced men swear up and down that their ex-wives are crazy, mentally-unhinged bitches. It’s a tale as old as time. But if that’s Nick’s argument… well, I kind of believe him. I think Mariah is unhinged and has been for a long time. I don’t think she’s abusing Dem Babies, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if life with Mariah is chaos. Yeah… I guess I’m #TeamNick.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and Mariah’s Instagram.
I think this split is going to be D R A M A..
They didn’t give that usual We are parting but remaining friends statement. Both of them have had stories leaked about thinking about the children.
I see this getting rough. Hope not.
I think this is going to get really bad. I also think I am Team Mariah. Nick is almost never with the kids he cares so much about. I mean that was Mariah’s biggest complaint. She even called him out on it on TV. Then Ellen called him out about it on her show. If you ever see an interview of Nick Cannon he can’t really talk about the kids and their development. He is just not very involved.
He seems like one of those guys that just wanted to acquire the dream but really didn’t know how to maintain it.
I think this unraveled as soon as they had kids and realized they had very different ideas about family life.
Agree totally. Really? Maybe he should have stayed home a bit more to monitor her behavior, and to ensure his children were safe. Something tells me he became concerned when she changed the locks . Even if she has mental issues….he has no business putting it out in the streets, as there are other avenues to deal with issues of this kind. Dude is downright disloyal. Team Maraih , all the way.
Agree. Team Mariah all the way.
I also think he’s deeply concerned about her bank account. Team Mariah.
Oh my wife is mentally ill, instead of getting her the help she needs. I am going to abandon her and my kids.
what a douche
Team Nick. I think he was young and in love with his fantasy of Mariah when they got married. He’s been with her for quite a while, he didn’t cut and run at the first chance. She had mental problems way before him, it’s not his responsibility to get her help, if she won’t do it. He stuck it out for a long time, I think he made a genuine effort at the marriage. Can you imagine how exhausting it must be living with a 40ish woman who is stuck in hello kitty, i’m a 22yr old bombshell world? I give him props for sticking it out as long as he did. and her saying he doesn’t spend enough time with the kids is her trying to make him look bad. i doubt mariah is a hands on, spend every minute with her kids parent either.
I would have been #teamnick if he hadn’t gone on the radio and talked about the 5 most famous women he’s been with. If you are genuinely worried about the mental stability of mother of your children, you take the high road. He should showed some class and declined to answer – even if he was already checked out of the marriage.
I do think Mariah has emotional stability issues. All the more reason for Nick Cannon to stop taking every random DJ gig he can find and be a father to his kids. Even Kevin Federline handled everything better when he was faced with the Britney meltdown.
@snowflake
Meh…I can never understand that logic of the “poor man, married the crazy woman and already endure it for so long”.
He was a grown up man when he decided to marry her. Everyone, all over the world, knows that Mariah had famous periods of psychological instability. He also knew. He wasn’t a kid crazy in love, he was a grown up man that probably liked the perspective of being married with an icon. If there was a fantasy involved, then that was his fantasy, what he could take out of this relationship (that let’s face it, was a lot!). He decided to marry her and have children with her. Now he should quietly take a seat, keep the mouth shut and make the best he can for his children throughout this divorce.
I think it’s pretty f*ckin rich that Nick is trying to paint himself as a good guy when it’s coming out now how he cheated on Mariah – he didn’t seem to be all too bothered with his wife’s emotional state when he had Dem Affairs….
If the rumours about her being a fan of the booze are true.. She’ll be a drunken mess at the end of this story.
Obviously i have no idea of what happens in their life but it seems like she needs to sort out her Humongous ego.
The ultimate chanteuse is doomed if she doesn’t.
Poor children. Team Children here. I can’t side with any of the adults involved in this story. He’s an idiot, she seems someone who needs help.
+1
THIS. I am not convinced that Nick is doing this all for Dem Babies. If he’s concerned about leaving the babies alone with Mariah…why is he leaving them alone with Mariah? Why isn’t he pursuing sole custody? He’s basically ensuring that, for half the time, they’ll have it twice as bad, because he won’t be there to act as their buffer. He wants out, and he wants to move on to someone else. This is NOT about protecting his children.
Enny
He’s not leaving them alone with her. They have help. It’s not Mariah fending for herself and caring for the kids. They haev a large staff of nannies, cooks, and maids.
And he leaves for work. He travels for work. I won’t shade anyone who has a job that requires travel.
He appears to truly love his kids. And he’s come to realize Mariah is abit nutty. It might have been fine earlier without kids. After kids priorities and perceptions change. You view people differently and more from how they are impacting your children.
TeamDemBabies. and TeamNick.
This is no secret. Mariah is not very stable. Her wanting to fire nannies after a 6month period so she stays #1 in her kid’s minds is bad. Unstable for the children. Maybe he’s seeing this and it’s not fixable. And maybe he still loves MAriah and feels she’s about to have another breakdown. She is the mother of his children. He can leave her and still care for her.
Yup. I’m on the team of whichever one puts the children and their needs first, ensuring that they have stability, support, love and attention, and making sure that their bond with their other parent is as strong as it is safe for it to be (should either parent struggle with mental illness or other issues).
I honestly don’t know which of these two is that person- perhaps neither one is.
@FLORC – if the staff’s enough to keep the kids safe when Nick’s away, then they’re enough to keep them safe, period. No need to put on this charade of “I’m leaving my wife to keep my kids safe.” He’s leaving his wife because he wants to leave his wife. He’s not helping his kids. He’s not ensuring their safety. He’s getting out because he doesn’t want to be with Mariah. Which is fine, god speed, just don’t say you have no choice but to leave because you can’t leave your kids alone with your wife, and then leave them alone with your wife.
His statements, whether true or not, are very inflammatory. I am amazed that his lawyer would have condoned his comments. This is private stuff and should be kept as such. Any judge involved with the welfare of children will censure him for his tactics and if he does want custody he will harm his chance by speaking out like this, even if what he says is true .
i don’t see where it says he said that, it’s all sources. i don’t think he’s that stupid
He said none of it, it’s made up for tabloids like most of the stuff we read about.
I have no idea how they lasted as long as they did.
Me too. This is a mess.
So he married an entitled, unstable woman, had kids with her and is now surprised that she is entitled and unhinged? Shocked I tell ya, shocked!
Yep. I remember seeing an interview with them before they got married and Nick was extremely encouraging of her diva behavior. I can’t say whether this was actual ‘true love’ or not, but he always did seem to feed her ridiculous ego.
That’s a really good point- she’s been this way a long time, and he chose her.
I’m Team Kids- let’s hope this is as amicable and quiet as possible, for their sakes.
he loved her. just cause he’s tired of dealing with it now that the reality has sunk in, that doesn’t make him a bad man
Take this with a grain of salt as an internet diagnosis, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s a huge narcissist and he’s starting to see the toxic effects on the kids. It’s one thing to deal with a narcissist as an adult who can set boundaries, but having the kids raised in that environment could be quite harmful to their development. It’s also one thing to fall in love with a brilliantly talented yet hugely egotistical person, and another to live with their narcissism day in and day out for many years and realize the negative effects it can have upon oneself. Many narcissists only care about their partner insofar as that partner builds them up and makes them look good, and don’t really care about their partner’s own emotional needs in the least. Of course, this is presuming a lot of things about her mental state, but from what we know of Mariah, “narcissist” seems to fit her pretty well I would not be surprised if she does in fact have this personality disorder.
@Senna
+10000
I’ve been there. It gets exhausting after a few years with a narcissus.
I think this is probably pretty accurate. Living with Mariah has to be an exhausting nightmare. I can’t imagine what those poor babies must go through, what with Mariah firing every nanny they begin to attach to.
I can completely co sign this statement. I live with a raging narcissist who doesn’t have an emphatic bone in his body.
However, i’m leaving. We are fortunately not married with no children.
I’m thankful I didnt marry him every single waking day.
In the end, its a shame for the kid’s.
I dont have a favorite or team except children.
I have to wonder if Cannon doesn’t want to make a monetary fuss because
Mariah and her team would clobber him. However going on a show and spouting about women you slept with whether they were separated or not, is in very poor taste.
I remember when Mariah was married to Tommy M. I do think she was able to get a very bad situation. She did seem free but the constant diva attitude with noticeable ability to not fully function independently causes consternation.
As whether she’s got an issue with addiction, her sister is an addict if I’m not mistaken.
Life seems so rosy or you have people prop you up, I think a certain reality fades away. It certainly appears so with many famous and talented people. The I’m untouchable, dont you know who I am, don’t deem to speak to other’s….endless list.
And lost in the shuffle you have someone like the late, great Robin Williams and his family suffering from an unspeakable loss.
Feelings change. He could have loved that diva side, but when he became a father and saw her behavior impacting his kids things can change. I’m a bit shocked people aren’t considering how people grow and change. We aren’t the same people forever.
this is going to get ugly!
Unless he has video
and…something tells me he does
When I started reading the article, I thought about the time when she flipped out on TRL. Poor Carson.
I have not problem believing any of this frankly.
The article before this said Nick had no problem with Mariah having full custody as long as he could have liberal visitation rights. I love how on those sites they always have conflicting stories. If he was so worried for the children, he would go after 50/50 custody. I’m sure even more stuff will be coming out on both sides. Who knows at this point what is true and what is just another day filler for the Daily Mail.
They publish conflicting stories because 99.99% of it is made up on the spot.
“Cadre of sycophants”
Exactly this.
Translation: Let’s pretend he knew none of his before marrying her (because she hid it so well!), there might be an ironclad pre-nup, so now someone is researching child support avenues. Sorry for the cynicism. I think Mariah is mad as a hatter, but it’s never been a well-kept secret.
‘this’
Obviously, Mariah has had a few extra doses of mercury, and Nick is a douche.
#teamkiddos all the way.
I was thinking about you. Did you feel the earthquake at all?
You’re so sweet, K-zilla! Nope, didn’t feel it (bout 3 hours away) but tbh I did feel the Ketel One last night. And this morning. Weeeeee.
awww ladies, happy you’re ok!!
love you folks asking about the earthquake and the welfare of those in NorCal! I’m from there – our family in the wine country live in American Canyon, City of Sonoma, Vineburg and outer Sonoma County- everyone had initially lost power, still remains off in American Canyon – all are unhurt but had a rude awakening around 3 am this morning – they say it was a more violent shaking than the event in 1989 and lasted much longer – our fam in American Canyon have cracks in their kitchen walls and foundation – in Sonoma, they had some damage to fragile items on shelves and the couch shook till the cushions came off, pix have fallen from the walls -businesses are closed/in recovery, and there have been some major bummer fires, but all things considering it could have been so much worse. sorry to thread jack.
Glad to hear it, nicegirl.
MC has always been a ‘diva’, trust that NC knew this.
Besides, this is a man that slutshames his famous sexual partners in public because they slept with him. He shouldn’t be judging other people because he’s nasty and he’s supposed to be ‘sane’. So what’s his excuse for being a douche?
As for the people around her not caring because they make money off her: this is the part where I know can’t thell the truth because MC’s career have been a dud for a while. We’re not talking about 90s MC here, she’s not making any paper for a LONG time. She’s got a lot of issues with her management and the name ‘Mariah Carey’ is barely culturally relevant anymore despite the fact that she used to the best with the best competition around her (Whitney, Janet, Madonna, Celine…).
I wonder what’s (really) wrong with her.
John Mayer is far more flagrant (IMO) in his celebrity offenses toward female modesty. I think that Nick is very cute on America’s Talent Show, so I’m team Nick.
It is true, however, that children are the ones to feel most devastated by a divorce; and sometimes the effects are lifelong. (My heart still breaks, after many years, over what my children had to endure and wrestle with to understand). Children love both of their parents, and what often hurts them the most, is trash-talking the other parent. They are not capable of understanding the “reasons” of divorce, so it is a waste of time trying to have a winner and loser, in this tragedy. Criticizing half of their DNA, is destructive to them, and they end up the real losers from that debate.
One can’t predict the horrible melodrama of a divorce, but certainly there can be more insulation for the children. Quite frankly, I’d like to see more research about caring for children, during that time of madness. So many children endure divorce, but I seem to see, primarily, relationship advice directed to the adult relationship; including checklists, sexual advice, romance, ad nauseum…in almost any periodical. Where is the advice, in mainstream media, for the children?
Mariah may be well past her prime, but she made a massive amount of money. Remember the dud contract that Virgin actually paid her almost $30 million just to get rid of her? And she still made a lot during her Island/Def Jam years. Mariah may have a crazy lifestyle, but she most likely has an incredible net worth and while the output is f questionable quality she does still continue to work.
It has to be exhausting living with that level of diva-tude. Mariah lost touch with reality so long ago, almost completely. How can anyone have a real marriage with someone who is a full time job themselves? They’ve been together for a while, perhaps Nick found Maria’s messiness cute at first, or thought he could handle it. I’m DEFINITELY not going to play any “poor Nick” violins, but the only surprise about that marriage breaking up is that it took so long. I do feep bad for Mariah, because things are going to continue to go bad for her both personally and professionally unless she makes a real change, which she clearly has zero desire to do.
And really, those kids are being cared for by an army of nannies.
It broke up maybe because he reached the goal of higher notoriety, maybe?
If you fear for the safety of your own children, because your estranged spouse is emotionally unstable, then I guess going on Howard Stern and ‘poking the bear’ is a reasonable and sane course of action?
@Bridget She just fired her manager Jermaine Dupri, and signed with Jay Z’s. And SHE is the one divorcing Nick. I think she’s trying to change.
Oh, I don’t think he fears for his children’s safer at all (like those children aren’t being cared for by an army of nannies), and I’ll also say that I’m giving some serious side-eye to TMZ’s quotes because just yesterday or the day before wasn’t the word on this divorce that Mariah made Nick sign something agreeing not to disclose anything?
Anyhoo, I got no horse in this race – I don’t think the guy deserves sainthood or anything. I mean, it was no secret that Mariah lost touch years ago, Nick clearly knew what he was getting into. I’m just saying, maybe he thought he could handle it and simply changed his mind. Because 6 years of living with Mariah Carey is a pretty MAJOR commitment for someone who was just trying to get a little more notoriety.
@Farah: supposedly the problem between Mariah and Duprie was that she wouldn’t listen to any of his suggestions. I would suggest that them parting was is actually indicative of her dedication to NOT changing.
I agree with you bridget.
Being raised by an army of nannies that Mariah fires every time she thinks the kids prefer the nanny. I can’t begin to guess how traumatic it would be for a small child to lose their primary caregiver routinely.
@Bridget, Fair enough. I find this entire thing very disappointing because I actually thought Nick was a nicer guy. But we don’t know if any of this is true, anyway, in terms of quotes.
@Kiddo: i’m not making any judgement calls about Nick – for all I know this can still go South. But I will at least give the guy room to change his mind, since what we find cute at 26 and single can be very different from what we find cute at 33 and with a couple of kids. Could you imagine living with Mariah, and having to put up with her quirks and shenanigans, having her be the star ALL THE TIME? It sounds exhausting. Yes, the Stern stuff is tacky, but considering that they know each other already (never mind the general expectation that if you’re on Stern you ‘go there’) it was probably a calculated move to make Nick look a little less like Mr. Mariah that very clearly backfired. And as much as I’m not a fan of sharing intimate details, the idea that only one person in the relationship gets to determine what gets said and what doesn’t icks me out.
doesn’t anyone remember after her divorce from Tommy Mottola – she went batsh&t crazy and had some sort of meltdown and had to be kept away from the public?
Mottola had Mariah on such a tight leash that she couldn’t even look sideways at someone not pre-approved by him. He made her and literally owned her career-wise and marriage-wise until she finally broke free. She probably went slightly haywire because of all the pressure. I always got a “mob” feeling from Mottola and, if I were her, would have feared for my safety.
Since her first divorce, she has made pretty lousy choices in the love department, to say the least. Didn’t she have a short-lived thing with Enimen, who also referred to her as batshit crazy?? Tough rap, girl.
The article I read yesterday stated he had made $75 mill since ’11. Part of the breakup was because he was always working and never had time for his little poptarts. I don’t know if it’s true or not, I also don’t know what Maria is worth. When both parties are that rich, doesn’t child support usually get waived?
Not always.
no way does he get full complete custody.
so what he’s done, in essence, is removed himself from a situation where HE was unhappy, thus leaving his children to fend for themselves whilst in their mother’s care. The woman whom he is concerned of her “emotional state”.
Father of the Year, said no one ever.
Exactly. He leaves the children he’s so “concerned” about with the very woman he says causes the “concern”. He’s full of shiz.
Brooke Mueller has custody of her kids. There’s no way Mariah will lose custody unless she’s like putting drano in their bottles and even then I don’t have faith that California would intervene on their behalf.
She lives in NYC. Isn’t that considered her primary residence?
Not sure, Kiddo. I just assumed she lived in LA.
Come on their kids look perfectly healthy, she obviously loves and cares for them, they are well-cared for. Maybe their Mama is a drama queen but there is no need to call CPS .
My partner worked on several of Mariah’s projects, beginning with her first record. She started out a sweet girl who was friendly to everyone on set. She quickly devolved. No one was allowed to look at her, hallways had to be cleared of people for her, and beverages had to be run to the fridge after each sip so they didn’t change temperature. That was over a decade ago. Can you imagine how much worse she is now?
Ugh
Goodness gracious, ugh ugh and ugh!
The inside workers see the real truth through the double reality that is celebworld.
……and isn’t that what every good husband does when he’s “concerned” about his wife’s emotional state………all the while leaving your children alone with her???
I’m Team Mariah. She has problems that have been evident for more than a decade, but I always thought she married down with Cannon. I had heard bad stuff about him before and that was confirmed after I learned that he kissed and told Howard Stern about his conquests. Even if it was in his past, I really dislike any man who likes to brag about who he has banged, especially if he is married. It is disrespectful to his exes as well as his wife. Now he is already bad mouthing her before the divorce is finalized. She is still the mother of his children. He should have a bit more respect and keep his mouth shut unless he has to defend himself from any direct accusations from Carey’s lawyers. He just comes off as a douchebag who used Carey to increase his celebrity status and to get whatever large settlement he will negotiate from this divorce. And as someone said above, if he is concerned with her emotional state, why is he leaving? He should be there to protect his children and try to get Mariah the help she needs, not talk to the press.
ITA, he needs to keep his pie hole shut.
I think regarding her mental health.. Mariah is on the same line as Britney Spears. But Britney to my knowledge has never been a diva and her family and others around her have kind of circled to protect her and give her a safe space. I don’t think she (Mariah) has ever been the same since her breakdown. She kind of just stop growing. Stunted in one place and age mind set. She always seems to me to be a Woman/Child. Even with the kids in pictures.. it looks like dress up and they are dolls come to life. Same with Nick. I never got a real woman/man relationship vibe from them at all. She seemed to be this fantasy that he got and now that he has grown she is still in the same place. I’m not trying to be over dramatic. I do think Mariah is in some kind of reality outside the norm.
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This so much. In my mind I see MC indulging not only her kids, but herself as well for all of their child-like whims. I see her commanding the help to run to Michael’s and stock up on glitter and tiaras, so that she and her daughter can be princesses together.
ETA: I hope that MC can get the help she needs and that the kids make out ok in this mess.
@lisa2 None of us truly know Mariah’s mental state. I don’t know if I would compare her to Britney Spears either. Since Britney has actually been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and is on meds.
I said she reminded me of Britney had a break down. Mariah had one too. I just think after it was over she kind of found a safe place to be and that is where she has remained. I just think a 40 something woman doing parties and such like she was a child is not the norm.
I think she was at Silver Hill for awhile… the place Edie Sedgwick used to be sent to.
she had a breakdown when Luis Miguel and her ended their relationship.
Apparently Luis cheated on her left and right and she turned to the bottle. Still Team Mariah, though. Nick is a golddigger.
So much for better or worse….true mental illness is not a pleasant thing to witness, but she is the mother of his kids. Keep your mouth shut and try to help her instead of dragging her. What a tool he is…never been a big fan of hers, but show the poor woman some mercy.
This. I agree completely. In sickness and in health…
She’s worth 500 and some million. I hope she has an ironclad prenup. Nick did always strike me as a golddigger.
Struck you? He is one…trust me you sussed him right…All this worry for her emotional state is also tied to her very healthy bank account.
I hate to say it, but who else would be with Mariah other than someone that’s there for her money and fame?
not me, he struck me as being very in love with her. i give him props for sticking it out as long as he did,
Yeah must be hell to be married to the woman you love.
Oh yes, because Cannon is such an innocent lamb and Carey is the horrible, crazy loon wife! Please!
If he gave a darn about his children, he would not be leaking these stories.
This! Even if everything he said is true I’m side-eyeing Nick for leaking this story. So wrong! These quotes actually make me think less of Nick, not Mariah. Keep it private dude and focus on what’s best for your children. Badmouthing their mother is only going to hurt them.
Isn’t telling people about Mariah’ s state of mind just going to make things worse? Mariah will only get upset and make it more difficult for Nick to spend time with the children. Or in some cases parents have been known to turn the children against the non custodial parent.
I am not saying that will happen, but Nick is not doing himself or his children any favours.
I don’t have a dog in this fight. I am just sharing my own perceptions.
1. They always seemed like an odd couple to me. However, the thing that seemed to link them was their varying levels of immaturity. Hers being emotional and wanting to recreate an idealized childhood she didn’t have and his being a lack of maturity as in “you are too old in age to act so damn goofy and young in mind.” Pictures of them indulging their inner child(s) was cringe-worthy to me based on the aforementioned.
2. Based on the divergent paths and needs of their respective “inner child” I can see how the relationship could become too exhausting for each of them with both pointing a finger to the other and shouting “grow up!”
3. This one is harder for me to explain, so bare with me and be willing to read into what I am saying. A nice sized age difference exists between Mariah and Nick. She doesn’t need a another father figure like Tommy Motolla (sp) or a younger playful brother like a Nick Cannon. That’s where she keeps messing up.
Mariah needs a steady, sensible (not boring but funny intelligent) generous spirited, generation x, man on his feet kind of guy to act as a balancer. Nick eventually needs a fun-loving, maturing in her ways, steady partner-guide like but not managing millennial as a balancer to complement him.
In this particular cases, because of their emotional needs, their age difference is a funky kind of misalignment. Ironically, as a result of this two, dem babies will probably grow up to be sensible, reliable, reality loving people–the polar opposites of their child-like parents.
That’s my 2-cents.
Dena, I like your theory, yet I differ in one point. You list [sensible, not boring, but funny, intelligent, generous, spirited, generation (fill in the blank), man on his feet kind of guy, that balances her; added to fun-loving, steady partner, to complement the other”]. This is not just about the union of Nick & Mariah, but is probably somewhat descriptive of what we are all looking for. I don’t think that it is easy, to find the kind of folks that we dream about…humans just aren’t all that.
@Wolfpup – u r right about that😀☺️
I am happily married, sixteen years, and I’ve known him for 21 years. My two cents, don’t get hung up on your fantasy ideal, don’t make a list and stick to it, be open to meeting people but do not get hung up on finding “the one.” If I had stuck to the “tall, dark and handsome” that I dreamt of, I would have missed the best thing that ever happened to me. Superficial qualities are appealing but when it’s a lifetime choice, go for quality of character, it’s a choice you will never regret.
I feel bad for Mariah, because she’s surrounded herself in this cocoon of butterflies and glitter and she’s just lost touch with any sort of reality – and it’s costing her both personally and professionally. Unless she makes a real change her career is essentially over, but a woman who is literally carried from place to place most likely doesn’t even have the self awareness to know that she might be the problem.
LOL! “Cocoon of butterflies and glitter”! Gold, Jerry!
She fires their nannies IF the kids become attached to them, so from that POV, i’d say she’s not creating a safe emotional environment for the kids.
Mariah Scarey
Those poor kids. I’m Team DemBabies.
+ everything.
they are the only Team that matters or counts.
He knew who she was when he married her. I have said in the past I hope Mariah gets rid of her yes men and gets the help she needs but I’m still on her side. I do not like Nick (and his father) running to the press all the time badmouthing his soon to be ex-wife she is still the mother of his kids and they can google this stuff when they are older. Also he works a lot (hosting a ton of different shows) so I don’t see how he is there for his kids either. I wish the best the twins to be honest.
So you have a mentally unstable wife who is insecure and you do multiple radio shows discussing the younger,prettier women you have screwed
Yeah that makes sense
Team Mariah
Those chicks weren’t anything special. Prettier…..NO!
Gotta love men who pull flirty behavior and then are SO baffled as to why their wife is insecure. I wonder if they are the same men who get angry when their wife displays distrust but cheat every second they can?
I had to chime in again. Way back in the middle ages, I’m 43😄, I was involved in a serious relationship with a guy in my early 20s. He flirted constantly with every attractive woman he came across. After about six months I had enough. It wasn’t the women, it was his wandering dong and his love of the chase. We both lived and worked in NYC. I kicked him to the curb because I didnt have time or patience. He pursued me constantly after. Finally married, cheated on wife 1 with an of age intern of 22. Wife 2 turns a blind eye.
I feel bad for her and his kid’s. Keeping up appearances and wife 2 being the larger, much larger breadwinner who works with famous actor’s constantly as a publicist while he pursues his interests make me feel horrible. Shes an awesome person. Its not and never will be my place to say anything but she deserves better.
Hopefully, Mariah or someone on her team that she has some type trust with help her with her and the kid’s best interests.
Absentee parent’s are very tough on young formidable minds.
To me, there’s a difference between parent’s who work very hard to provide for their children versus I like to call it the money issue.
I’ll throw money at the problem and it’ll be solved. I’ve witnessed this my entire working career and have past personal experience. Talking, spending time with kid’s is worth more than a billion pure 18k butterflies. I also think being a parent first, friend second is best. I’d love to hear from parent’s out there.
I always hope for the best and prepare for the storm.
Stellax2, she does deserve better but she chooses to stay with him and his wandering dong, she chooses to de-value herself. Better to be alone than to be an emotional punching bag for a selfish man-child. I take a hard line and Mr. Loblaw knows it. He can do whatever he likes but if he wants me to stick around, no straying ever. It’s a two way street, I keep my hands out of the cookie jar too.
I don’t follow these two and I’m not on either “Team”, but a previous CB article said Nick made 75 million last year. Why do people think this is about him getting Mariah’s money?
Because at the end of the day, Mariah is worth 500 million dollars. She bankrolls their life. He makes his own money, but they live in her homes. Everything they have, she owned before the marriage.
I think he has been about getting her money for a while. He certainly capitalized on their marriage. He has been able to make significant sums on his own the last few years, branding himself as Mr. Mariah Carey.
By publicly raising concerns about his kids, it seems like he his preparing to make this divorce into a battle, this time capitalizing on kids and their supposed safety.
Using her mental state (not sure if it is actual mental illness or just supreme divaness) is just another weapon to get more money, imo. Pretty despicable.
If I had to pick a team, it would be Team DemBabies, but sadly I don’t think they will win anything in this mess.
This Mariah and the children thing… reminds me a little of Christina Onassis and her daughter Athina.
Christina wanted to have a baby with the man she loved so badly that she even paid him to impregnate her when they had already broken up and he was back to his long time lover. A mess.
Christina was raising her baby daughter giving her outrageous gifts, anything she could pay for.
After Christina died, Athina went to live with her father and his family, and was raised in a more normal, structured way, which Christina did not have when she was growing up herself. Athina seems content with her life, more balanced than her mom.
I have no idea how these cuties are being raised, but I hope they are given some sort of leveling and family education and they turn up alright.
MAriah is a fragile woman, and men in her life have mot likely used her, like that Mottola man, Luis Miguel, a womanizer and this man who is probably more in love with their lifestyle. Still that huge amount of money is probably more damaging because it allows her to have an entourage of yes people and that is worse for her and her kids.
@Dena, good points!
I don’t get the Onassis comparison. Christina was a poor little rich girl living off her family’s wealth and Mariah actually made her own money. And from what I understand Nick had a big crush on Mariah for years and pursued her. She didn’t have to pay him.
In relation to children rearing (allegedly) and bad luck with men (in general, the now ex is dissing her now).
yeah, that’s why i don’t think he’s a golddigger. he had a crush on her for years and prob felt like his dream was coming true. he didn’t fathom the difficulty of living with someone like mariah
Seriously what have I said that is different from what all the other posts have said ? some even worse Imo
anyhoo its Sunday you have a good day
Ugh. Poor kids.
I don’t know how they even lasted this long, or ended up together in the first place.
I remember years ago when Mariah did a Cribs episode, and she was spacy and totally disconnected then. I think I’m team Mariah though. He’s always annoyed me. He has a very Ryan Seacrest wannabe vibe about him.
How does TMZ know anything about their relationship and their feelings for each other? I doubt they do. They are just another tabloid trying to get hits for their site. Btw, Nick’ s dad was dragging Mariah on Facebook and then her deleted his posts. He’s trying to promote a book and get rich off his son’s divorce.I just hope she has a good prenuptial agreement because he isn’t worth a quarter of what she is worth. I hope it isn’t messy for their children.
TMZ makes shit up all the time.
Shots fired. When they whip out the “emotional state” stuff…sh*t just got real. Unfortunately, Mariah has seemed off for a long time. I think in the beginning he tried to help, but her people are paid by her, so……I kinda think she’s like a crazy Roman emperor.Poor kids.
She has always struck me as a true narcissist, and there is nothing sadder than an aging narcissist. I feel bad for Nick and those kids.
He’s a punk. Needs to STFU.
Can’t stand him.
Any man yapping about his conquests, talking about his wedding night, and insinuating something is wrong with the mother of his children in public IS NOT thinking about his kids. Who’s the narcissist? HIM.
+1
I do not agree with his blabbing… They have kids so he needs to keep his trap shut and deal with this in private.
He knew what he was getting into and if he did not know that makes him a dumbass! Mariah didn’t do any false advertising.
This recent statement about him leaving and Mariah being unstable is absolutely douchey
and poor parenting. Airing your dirty laundry is not putting the kids first.
For these two reasons I am TeamMariah.
Of course she is in an “emotional state.” Her husband wanted out of the marriage and instead of acting like a grown-up, starting talking crap to the press to get out. Who wouldn’t be upset that your husband is a total douche and that he is leaving you. Divorce is hard on everyone.
Mariah Carey is the most self absorbed, out of touch celeb out there. I absolutely can not stand her or her annoying music. Nick stopped drinking her kool aid.
She’s probably furious that her career is in the toilet but her rival Jennifer Lopez is still relevant
I had no idea they were rivals.
They aren’t rivals. The media or fans just want people to believe they are. J.LO can’t sell albums anymore so she can’t be too relevant. They both are struggling. She isn’t too far behind from Mariah. J.LO just keeps making generic music with Pitbull. Plus, she will never have the talent or accomplishments of Mariah.
Both struggling? Excuse me, but those two powerhouses are only struggling with how to fill their time and spend their millions. Neither has to prove anything to anybody at this point and if they want to keep shaking their moneymakers, more power to them. You wish your career was as “in the toilet” as Mariah’s, Mar, spare me your ageist, sexist nonsense and recognize that both ladies have done quite well for themselves and far better than most of their competition.
She might be kooky, and a narcissist, but at least she is not sticking needles in her arms. She’s been.. well Mariah for a long time but there really hasn’t been any info on what she is doing that is harmful.. Much more info is needed to take a side at this point…
She’s a diva and everything else you said. Same goes for many other celebs. Heidi Klum, I know for a fact, is another to add to the list.
I love Mariah but I get where Nick is coming from because dealing with a self absorbed delusional drama queen who always plays the victim and truly, honestly believes her delusions are true, day in and day out is exhausting. At some point you just need a break. Or to leave already.
Maybe he should just put the mirror down.
I was Team Nick but now that he has been releasing his side to the press through “sources” I may just change to Team Mariah. He is only hurting his kids and Mariah by leaking things.. Keep it private Nick, be an adult.
I’m still Team Nick at this point. If she is, as I suspect, emotionally unstable but surrounding herself with psychophants, and the kids are suffering for it, it is natural to seek support and validation. You know she will be ruthless if he goes for custody. It will be beyond ugly. She’s already got him on a court-ordered gag, contractually bound to keep his mouth shut, but she can say whatever she wants about it? What does that tell you? Tells me she’s going to do everything she can do discredit him and try to ruin his image. Why do that or plan for that if you have nothing to hide? I smell a rat!
I think Nick was silly and immature and wanted to get married and have babies, but he didn’t know what it meant. And Mariah is over the top in a bubble, and wanted babies, but as they get older and don’t want to be little props, it gets harder. They wanted babies, not to be parents, and the only ones who lose are “dem babies” who are not babies anymore and need structure, guidance and stability. Even just the fact that they seem to be a hashtag as opposed to PEOPLE is sad.
I hate the way media capitalizes on all this stuff and states “sources”. Who knows what is going on with either one of them. I am sure Mariah had an iron clad prenup and he may have too. He is worth a lot of money himself. He seemed to buy into her diva stuff for years but probably just simply tired of it like anybody would. He seems like his brain is always scrambled and he’s extremely hyperactive or something. I don’t think they ever had a real marriage just a contract. Those kids I am sure see their nannies on a much more regular basis than they do either Nick or Mariah. Most likely will be more “rich” kids growing up with every material thing, but not the one thing they will truly crave, which is the love and attention of a Mother and a Father. It’s like Fox said yesterday, people make immediate judgements based on what team they are on and not on actual facts.
Hmmm…the way I interpret his words is that this could come down to a custody battle and Lord, it would be a battle! Yikes! I do think she is emotionally unstable and has some serious anxiety re perception. It’s obvious she cares way too much about what people think and their view of her – singer aside – talking about how she’s viewed as a person. She needs people to think she lives a fairy tale life. When your not-so-fairy-tale implodes for the masses to see, gotta think that’s the making of a major melt-down. I hope not, but it wouldn’t surprise me.