Last year, a woman accused Cee Lo Green of drugging her with ecstasy and then raping her while she was barely conscious or completely unconscious – she remembered having a drink with Green at a sushi joint and then she woke up naked in his bed. LA County investigated the claims and a short time later, they changed him with a felony – a felony drug charge for giving/slipping the woman ecstasy. TMZ’s law enforcement sources said last year that the DA did not believe there was enough evidence to bring sexual assault or rape charges against Cee Lo so that’s why those charges never happened. Then, several days ago, Cee Lo pled “no contest” to the drug charge and agreed to perform 360 hours of community service and attend 52 AA meetings with a private therapist. He’s also on probation for three years.
I didn’t cover any of this stuff as it was happening because I found it really depressing. I also found it to be a confirmation of a general discomfort I’ve had with Cee Lo for a while – I’ve always found him sort of creepy and unsettling, and I believe his accuser’s story. So why discuss it now? Because Cee Lo basically confirmed that if he did drug this woman (and any other woman) and assault her while she was unconscious, that’s not really “rape”. Buzzfeed compiled a series of (now-deleted) tweets that Cee Lo wrote shortly after he pled “no contest”. The tweets included these musings:
“Women who have really been raped REMEMBER!!!”
“If someone is passed out they’re not even WITH you consciously! so WITH implies consent.”
“When someone brakes on a home there is broken glass
Where is your plausible proof anyone was raped?”
[From Cee Le Green’s Twitter via Buzzfeed]
After Buzzfeed and other outlets began taking screen shots of his tweets, Cee Lo tried to apologize in a really half-assed way, writing:
“I sincerely apologize for my comments being taken so far out of context. I only intended on a healthy exchange to help heal those who love me from the pain I had already caused from this. Please forgive me as it was your support that got me thru this to begin with. I’d never condone the harm of any women. Thank you.”
Then he deleted his Twitter, and then less than 24 hours later, his Twitter was back online with all of the controversial and apologetic tweets deleted.
So, there you go. Cee Lo Green is a shady character who drugs women, sexual assaults them and then claims that it was never sexual assault because they were passed out and cannot remember being assaulted because he drugged them. Picture a snake eating its tail. Now picture that snake drugging you and raping you.
Oh, and Cee Lo just lost his reality show after this whole cracktastrophe. Good.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
What is wrong with some people?
It’s all part of this ‘rape culture’ we’re in. Finding new and innovative dodgey ways to get what you want, without being labelled a rapist. So it’s blurred lines, and roofying and emotionally manipulating and all other sorts of shadey tricks to get what you want from a woman. Because, OMG, Ofcourse… What do you mean I’m not entitled… mentality
I don’t think there is anything innovative or dodgy about what he said. He’s not pulling any shady tricks. What he said is INSANE.
Bottom line to me he’s just an appallingly stupid and scary man.
Only a monster or idiot would be impressed with Cee-Los “argument”
^^ where’s Whoopie when you need her? That venomous piece is the only one I know that could think to agree with him.
I’m so glad I never spent a moment beyond paying attention to his one hit that happened a few years back. I’ve lost all respect for this sorry excuse of a person and I’m pleased he lost his job.
Ok, while I do agree that he’s super shady and creepy, I’m not exactly seeing what’s wrong with what he’s saying in his tweets. Am I misreading it?
“If someone is passed out they’re not even WITH you consciously! so WITH implies consent.”
Is he saying that if a woman passes out around you, that’s implied consent? That she’s not WITH you consciously, but her body is?? I initially read it as “if she’s passed out, she’s NOT WITH you” but the second line made me think he was saying an incomplete sentence like “with implies consent… If she’s conscious”? Twitter is fkng up the English language. I can’t make sense of anything anymore.
@MCraw,
I think that he’s saying that she can’t cry rape because she has no memory of it. That one needs the memory that a rape has occurred and a woman can’t just imply that a rape happened after she’s awoken from a drug induced slumber.
I love his voice, but he’s so creepy if he thinks that people have to REMEMBER getting raped in order for it to BE rape. There are always signs that let us know that a sexual act occurred.
I read this yesterday. What an idiot of huge dimensions. I can’t even blame rape culture, this is first-class ignorance.
This is why California passed the law Yes is Yes. If you don’t say yes, it is rape. He is a sick ass. I will never buy another record he makes.
Denisemich, I am so happy to read that. I’ve been railing against “no means no” for what feels like ages. “No means no” just adds to the rape culture putting the burden on the woman (or man). I shouldn’t have to say no. No one has the right to touch me until I tell them they can.
Good for California. This law needs to be nationwide.
The Yes means Yes law is a typical California law that attempts to achieve something it can’t but makes everybody feel like we’ve done something. It doesn’t change the essential fact that it’s still going to be he said – she said. Instead of the woman saying “I said no”, the woman gets to say “I didn’t say yes”. Net result is that his response changes from “no, you didn’t say no” to “yes, you did say yes”. It has zero effect on what you have to prove in court.
If you want to argue it’s a step towards cultural change, that’s fine, but legally, it’s a non-starter.
Thank you! He’s a f-ing moron and a monster.
I really don’t want to understand people like him and society that is giving him an platform to say anything? Why he is walking free ? Making foolish coments about sexual assault that he comited. How is this posible?
Oh, wow! So California passes a law that says if you don’t hear them say yes then it’s rape. While on the other hand they promote rape and the explotation of women in just about every horrible movie they pump out of there. In addtion to that, judges don’t seem to think that “movie stars” need abide by the same laws as the rest of the country anyway. Over it!
“While on the other hand they promote rape and the explotation of women in just about every horrible movie they pump out of there”
You can’t blame “California” for that. That was really uncalled for. If you are talking about the entertainment industry, it is a business. It creates and sells what it thinks people will buy. No responsibility for the consumer who purchases and supports such images?
It’s ridiculous to suggest California movies are the problem, movies reflect society, whatever rapist issues we have in society are not coming from our movies and were here well before movies were even being made. Come on!
Rae-I agree for the most part. But I do feel like there is such thing as implied consent. If my fiance gets home from work and wakes me up by making love to me, I don’t think it’s rape until I tell him no (but if I did say no and he kept going? That would absolutely be rape). I think it only exists between adults who are in relationships with each other and know each other well enough to be aware of the others’ comfort zones. But I do think implied consent exists.
Oh, where do I begin. The US has no leg to stand on when criticizing India. We may not kill or maim women here in the US but if you’re drunk or unconscious you lack personal responsibility so the rape is on you. All your fault. Even out colleges support this culture. Most notably and recently the illustrious Columbia University. They’ve done nothing but give lip service to 23 co-eds – 4 of those raped by the same guy – because why make a stink? Let’s just pretend to deal with them. I’m paraphrasing a missent email from a Columbia administrator. A woman at that. Oh and the Stepford wives of Fox also believe if a woman is misbehaving then she deserved IT.
To sum it up, women are served up on platter because we rather the victim that the rapist. We officially live in opposite world.
Violence against women is an international problem, regardless of where you live or your nationality, if you’re a woman, you are vulnerable to sexual assault and murder, sadly, at any age.
Does it not happen at a much higher rate in India though? They both have problems and could learn from each other
I think rape culture must take different forms in these 2 places
@outstanding,
You talk about the blame the woman culture, here, but its a thousand times worse in India. I read the first hand account of a woman who has to run a gauntlet if she wants to go out at night. If she goes to a bar and drinks, then all the men assume she’s up for anything. Or how authorities think that if she’s dressed a particular way, then she asked for it. I think you need to step out from your glass house.
I have personal experience dealing with Columbia University’s administration, thankfully, not as a victim of assault. All I will say is that they are asshats. These “educators” act more like bureaucrats and CEOs because they have cushy jobs and don’t want to rock the boat. Trust that they will NEVER stand with students on controversial issues even if an injustice has been committed again students such as rape, assault, even murder. I knew a girl in one of my college classes who had been beaten to a pulp by her boyfriend who was on the college football team. The university tried to pay her off so that the story would not leak to the mainstream media. Her boyfriend remained on the football team. This happens all the time everywhere. There is also something messed up about these school administrators getting paid well into the six figures even up to half a million dollars each year while students go into debt for an education.
@Tiffany & Bob
I think it’s ridiculous to think that the entertainment industry influence doesn’t support the degradation of women. Also, the entertainment industry is based in Hollywood, California. Not saying that it’s the entire problem, but it supports the problem. And, what does personal responsibility have to do with it? I don’t have any control over what men with violent tendencies towards women decide to watch.
We are all entitled to our own opinions.
Barf. That is all.
Pomegranate – I’m gonna cheat, I’m sorry, but I’m frankly jacking your comment (although, that being said. You are right, vomit is all this guy IS. But that’s not all I’m gonna say here) because you are up near the top and I am actually kinda hoping that, despite it being 10:20pm Wed, maybe enough other folks beginning the wade through and will see this. If it would help at all, if you ever wander towards north eastern Ohio, I publicly here and now promise to feed you, offer you (if old enough) booze of your choice, or all the coffee you want to ingest while yelling at me for hijacking your comment.
Had a wild and crazy idea, one that won’t call for the mass stoning of idiots, no violence in suggested action (although the thoughts I had when I first read this were… staggering in their brutality and ugliness. Took me until now, working hard, to get myself to a less ugly place and could trust myself to not totally lose my shit.) but want to toss this out to the crowd at large and see what people think. Christina Aguilera was this knuckle draggers castmate (and I think they might have worked in the past on music together) – and in addition to being a woman, a music star, a mom… she has often put herself forward as a role model for young women everywhere. (Not sure I agree with that all the time, but that’s not the issue.) She talks about Latin American issues, feminism, being an advocate for children, vocal in her battle against battery and sexual abuse….
instead of us all agreeing the man is scum – what about going at this sideways? What would have to be done to get a petition of names large enough to get her attention, to have her address her former coworker openly? What kind of public plea for her to get into the mix would it take? How many fans of ~hers~ would have to rattle the doors to put her in a position where she would HAVE to take an open position on this stupidity? If she is happy to feud with other celebs over everything from weight to clothes, why not something that truly matters? Going sideways, going around, ESPECIALLY as she has just had a little girl and is likely feeling pretty ‘protect my babies (sadly, we all know it’s not just girls who are raped, so fears for the world her little boy is growing up in must be there in her mind as well) is at a all-time high for her.
Could this work folks? Could, instead of all agreeing the evil SOB’s who put this crap forward are evil SOB’s, instead of screaming for THEIR blood (which isn’t working. As a rape survivor, god knows I’ve tried that route for years trying to push for changes) maybe if we all agree that, yeah. The mountain isn’t budging when we stand around screaming and kicking it at the base. Instead, maybe it’s time to tunnel through, around, over, drop payload from orbit we can finally start the mountain coming down? If anyone thinks there is a chance, tell me. I’d happily and willingly offer to do the grunt work and the paper work, but I need to know if others think this has a chance. And to start moving it on from there.
Anyone read this? Anyone have a thought? Baying for his blood, while possibly satisfying in the moment isn’t getting anywhere. So maybe the direction has to be radically changed to make a difference.
Jenna
In great haste…That’s very good thinking. Encourage his peers to disown him….and likewise similar cases of course. If record (??!! what’s the current term?) companies saw their artistes feuding, or calling for boycotts, might they have influence?
Anyway I hope others see your post and it gets legs
X
His viewpoint about consent is so wrong on so many levels.
I feel fairly confident he wouldn’t be okay with being drugged and anally penetrated as long as he couldn’t remember it. Hey, no memory of it? No harm done.
And I’m like:
“F*CK YOU!!!”
you win.
sorry, d*ckhead, a woman won’t “remember” being raped IF YOU DRUG HER.
and the non-apology apology is just disgusting. yes, shame on all of us for taking his comments “out of context”.
Wow…where have I been? I had no idea that Cee Lo was a rapist.
I only knew him as the T. Rex-looking guy with the great voice.
I’m appalled and disgusted by those tweets. If a woman is raped she’ll remember. Yes, unless she is drugged to the point of being unconscious prior to the rape.
He is VILE.
Normally I don’t like to comment on physical appearance but his comments just have me so outraged..I think he looks like penguin man from the batman movies in the header photo.
Neither do I but once a dude starts condoning rape, all bets are off.
He does resemble The Penguin.
He reminds me of Grimace, Ronald McDonald’s friend. Green is disgusting.
Totally on The Penguin train too.
nah, he’s like The Violator from the Spawn comics.
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/v/viol8r2.jpg
(played brilliantly by John Leguizamo in the movie version)
Right? I read this yesterday, and all I could think was “what in the ever-loving *uck?” Cele Lo is at the top of my *hit list now.
vile is the perfect word for him
Social media has a way of letting assh0les expose their asshol-i-ness. I didn’t know he was like this before, but I am very glad that I know now!
As a woman, 2014 has been a very disturbing year for me. There was a lot of ugliness that came to light.
All i see is Jabba the Hut
Will NEVER EVER get another f’king dime outta my pocket. Great voice but a vile rapist. Who knows this women was cognizant enough to understand that she’d been ruffied. What about other women he’s “dated?
I see the Butterball cenobite from Hellraiser!
Perfect.
And he actually is “CRAZY”!
@sisi and may I add that maybe he’s C.R.A.Z.Y, I think he’s crazy.
I used to like Cee Lo now it’s bye Lance.
This is awful. So he is saying well she was unconscious co she can’t say she was raped??? WTF? DId he not get prosecuted for this mess?
Because he has money and connections. That’s it. The only reason. The world isn’t a fair place.
Wow, what a jerk! Imma delete Gnarles Barkley now on my mp3.
Same here. I deleted all his music from my You Tube playlists, iTunes, etc. I’m not supporting this trash.
Well played, sisi!
FFS.
i wonder if he’d feel differently if something like this happened to him. or is it just ok if it happens to women?
This
Lets be real, That is NEVER happening to him…even if he paid
Oh QQ, you make me laugh even when the topic at hand is disgusting & depressing. 🙂
I’m sorry we aren’t allowed to wish death on anyone on this website. Which I would never do, so don’t ban me. But this is as close as I have ever come to actually feeling that way.
I can’t help feeling that people like this need to experience the exact same thing they forced their victim to experience. I don’t think they will learn any other way.
yeah, it’s a shame that a lot of people can’t empathize unless something happens to them. there are so many examples of this, it’s really disgusting that people cultivate such a lack of empathy in themselves and others.
I’m with you guys. He really doesn’t get it. Seems that would be an effective way to make him understand.
His punishment is not fitting to his crime. I am a fan of the benefits of the AA program, but in this case, wth kind of good is it going to do to send him to AA?
I kinda know how you feel, GNAT. I saw this yesterday and saw his tweets and honestly, I just burst out laughing. An absolutely inappropriate reaction, I think you’ll agree. But I think sometimes people say or do something which is so outrageous, so beyond the pale, that it short circuits your brain. I think I laughed from sheer shock, you know? You wouldn’t really wish death on anyone. I wouldn’t really laugh at rape. And Cee Lo Green should crawl off to a hole in the ground and never come out.
Never come out would be perfect. I can see how it shocked you so much that you laughed. Not because it’s funny, it just almost doesn’t seem real it’s so crazy.
Btw, off topic – nobody was talking about you after my comment on Unbreakable. There was a poster who said she thought Louis invented some of the story and that after the movie, people would “come out of the woodwork” to contradict him.
Exactly.
Hokey pokey. I hadn’t taken offence, though, so don’t worry – I was just clarifying/elaborating. Never concern yourself if you do ever want to take issue with me. I’ve got the hide of an elephant!
Also off topic: remember I was talking about the dangers of the European Arrest Warrant on the recent Assange thread? Here’s an example showing what I meant about it being bound to be used to infringe on everyone, not just for national security: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-29009883. Worrying stuff. It’s been massive news here.
W.O.W. That is outrageous! And very worrying. That poor child, being forbidden to see his parents when he needs them most. Scary stuff.
I’m asking seriously- we can’t state that we wish death on someone on Celebitchy? It’s an extreme response and shouldn’t by any means be used lightly or crassly but if it’s a genuine reaction to the terrible evil one reads about, why is it off limits?
They might mean that you can’t wish death on another poster. I’m not sure, but I didn’t want to take any chances.
Gotcha Goodnames. I just read the comment policy and it seems it has only to do with being civil to others. 🙂
It’s never comfortable stating aloud that you wish someone would cease to exist anymore. I’ve said it irl and people freak out and then I have to explain that there’s Good and Evil in the world and if someone has done *really* horrific things, the world may just be a better place without him or her. It’s not like I walk around with a boiling hate in my heart (Thank God) but I have no moral anxiety when I say that I wish, for example, all the Evil dictators of our present-day World should be condemned violently for their misdeeds. Have I said too much?
I hope to never wish death on anyone, but I long for a delete button, good god, if I had the power to have someone never be, I would be a dangerous beast.
It’s been hard – really, really, REALLY hard – not to wish death (or serious harm) on certain people these past few weeks. Jerks like Cee-Lo Green, the idiots who leaked the nude pics and the others congratulating them and/or victim-blaming the women……I just hope these people know that karma will get them some day. What goes around comes around.
I don’t wish death on him, I wish that all sorts of things are done to him while he’s sound asleep/sedated/otherwise vulnerable and unaware. I also wish that his house is broken in to without breaking a window (which that buttmunch is too stupid to realize happens often – not everyone does a smash and grab) and that he is robbed blind.
Based on his assertions, he wouldn’t be a victim amirite?
I usually wish that people were “helpless ghosts” instead of dead. That way we don’t have to hear them or be aware of them. Trust me, being ignored and lonely is a far harsher punishment than death would be for people like that.
And yet, some still deny the existence of rape culture, despite sleazy assertions like this.
OMG … just when I think these celebrity idiots can’t get any worse …
They always do. This is the worst (so far).
F*ck Ceelo! What a disgusting jerk, I always found him really creepy. He’s ugly on the inside and outside.
What’s with celebs saying exactly what they mean then when people call them out being offensive saying “it was taken out of context”? No it really wasn’t, you said what you wanted.
I can’t imagine any scenario in which additional “context” would make these statements acceptable.
^ Indeed.
Exactly. What a stone for a heart.
+1
most don’t even know the definition of ‘context’, they are just sheep mimicking other celebrities’ words.
Oh my god. Just, oh my god. So, if you don’t have to hold ‘er down cause ya drugged her so she wouldn’t fight you, you didn’t really rape her. Is this what he is saying?! Please, someone tell me a f*cking house is going to fall on this evil munchkin today. There is no defense of this person or his statement.
That’s exactly what he’s saying. Roly-poly jerk.
After this blows over, he will still have a career and will not be vilified like Robin Thicke was, since he is a rapper. Rick Ross made those rape comments, went away, came back, wrote advice column in Rolling Stone, WTF!
Yeah these guys must have some genius PR people surrounding them because I never even heard of this story…Maybe they all use R. Kelly’s people?
At least he lost his show..it’s not much, but it’s something. I feel for the victim. Imagine enduring the trauma of rape and then having to deal with a high-profile celebrity implying that it was consensual. Gross.
Where is the outcry by the media???? Oh, its just an assault against a woman, so, not that big of a deal! I guess, where woman are concerned, society hasn’t come very far….how can it be, that a man drugs a woman, rapes her, pleads no contest, which is basically admitting guilt and spend no time in jail? Aren’t his 15 minutes of fame up, yet???
That’s what makes me the angriest. No consequences whatsoever. Community service for drugging and raping a woman. I could spit.
Forget the media,where’s the prosecutor? The rape charges were supposedly dropped due to lack of evidence. Isn’t this an admission that the woman was raped, since she had no way to consent if she can’t remember the sex, having been drugged?
@Kiddo
I am with you, kiddo. No prosecution after admitting a rape? Mind you, I have no idea how rape laws work in US.
No. He pled guilty to the felony count of furnishing ecstasy. The sexual assault charges were dropped due to lack of evidence. I think they likely did a rape kit and either didn’t find anything because he didn’t “finish” or because it was a week later that she reported it (another commenter said that), evidence was no longer available.
@TheOriginalKitten, sexual assault is not limited to penetration. Isn’t it evidence in admission on twitter that the woman wasn’t in any condition to consent? Even though he believes the exact opposite, that not knowing or not remembering means consent?
This is so disappointing because I liked his music, but he disgusts me now.
I’m not a lawyer and by far no expert of the law. This is just my personal experience in the matter of prosecuting rapist.
Sometimes the DA won’t proceed because there isn’t a mountain of evidence. If it’s not enough to make it a landslide victory on facts AND to overcome the built in “blame the accuser” some jurors might have, it doesn’t proceed. This is to also make it easier on the victim/survivor. If you’re going to put them through that kind of hell reliving th event and being publicly blamed for it in court and in public you’d better be able to win. Otherwise it’s forever remembered as the woman who had a change of heart or cried wolf.
And this vile POS! If someone is passed out how can they consent? And what kind of person doesn’t care if the person is awake? He’s such a creepy, horrible, monster. Thanks for a great example CeeLo of how Rape culture is thriving.
What FLORC said.
@kiddo-I understand that sexual assault is not limited to just sexual intercourse. My point was that in order to prove a sexual assault took place, it helps to have physical evidence, a witness outside of the two parties, a videotape, a full confession that took place at a police station, bruises or defensive marks on the perpetrator/victim, anything that can support the accuser’s testimony. Otherwise it comes down to he said vs she said and it becomes very difficult to prove. Why put the victim through that unless it’s a guaranteed slam dunk?
If she waited a week to report it (as some are saying), evidence could have been lost. If a rape kit was done and nothing was found, it’s hard to use nothing as evidence that a sexual assault took place.
Also, I really doubt that his tweets would be admissible in court as evidence that a rape occurred.
@Theoriginalkitten Technically he didn’t plead guilty. He pled no contest, which means that he neither admitted nor denied a crime but he’s not going to argue the crime. Probably because he knew he’d get practically no punishment. What an ass. And I think one of his tweets said that he was found innocent of rape because the charges went forward. No asshole, you were just never found guilty.
Cee Lo Green is a disgusting little troll and I hope no woman ever has sex with him again, consensual or otherwise. He’s representative of so much that’s wrong with this society and it makes me sick that he won’t really pay for what he’s done.
Sorry, you’re right Anna, and that’s an important distinction.
“No asshole, you were just never found guilty.”
Exactly. The way our justice system is designed, the burden will always be on the prosecutor to prove guilt. In a rape case the perpetrator greatly benefits from being “presumed innocent”. Add to that a lack of physical evidence, and this is how rapists get away with it.
There must have been some kind of solid evidence against him though, for him to even plead “no contest” to the ecstasy charge. Obviously he got almost no punishment for that, but I’m actually surprised he didn’t get away with that part of his crime as well. I guess though, in terms of punishment, he actually did get away with it all.
I read that she had recordings of a phone call in which Green referred to the ecstasy he gave her. I wonder why those recordings weren’t proof of a sexual assault. He must not have directly admitted anything, otherwise I would think that would be enough to take it to trial….
Zwella Ingrid
I want to say he did admit to giving her ectasy. Once there’s an admittion it’s black and white. A lawyer could have a mouth full of marbles and both hands tied behind his back and still win that case.
And admitting this shows some admission of guilt to the situation. More to show poor judgement though and not evil intent.
The ultimate win here for him is he doesn’t have to register as a S## Offender.
From what I remember, I think the case was challenging to prosecute because she had been dating/seeing him for a while, and I think they had evidence that they voluntarily took ecstasy together before. I also think it was suggested that since it was ecstasy and not a “roofie” it wasn’t solid proof that he was trying to knock her out.
I totally understand why it needs to be hard to prove rape, because we don’t want innocent men being sent to prison….but at the same time, I wish it wasn’t so difficult. It just seems so hard to get justice in this area, and that depresses the hell out of me.
Yes. I read about this yesterday and was appalled at that he’s going to suffer little to no consequences. His ass needs to be in jail. Not making outrageous, asinine tweets about the woman he violated.
he’s pretty much spouting the right-wing political/Fox news party line
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/03/fox-news-panel-rape-victims-need-to-take-personal-responsibility-for-drinking-too-much/
Tiffany
I remember the story being something to the tone of she was unwilling to take ectasy that time so he put it in her drink. And that they spent time together before. This type of argument is so terrible imo. It’s like saying “Well, she wasn’t a virgin so she must have been ok with sleeping with someone.”
And yes, it’s also hard to convict because once you’re convicted you’re on a list that can be horrible if you’re innocent. I think it’s even bad when say a father screams rape when his daughter (say 14) sleeps with her bf consentually (say just turned 16 in a sttate that isn’t allowed in). Then he’s on that list for life with massive restrictions on the quality of his existence regarding home locals, jobs, dating, etc…
It’s shouldn’t be so black and white. Although, if it has shades of gray I can see that being exploited. The system will never be without major flaws.
I can symathise to the argument on both sides. This whole thing is upsetting to exist still.
“This type of argument is so terrible imo. It’s like saying “Well, she wasn’t a virgin so she must have been ok with sleeping with someone.””
Agreed. I also don’t like the idea that if a woman consents to being with a guy one time, that it is sometimes presented as if that gives him her consent forever in the future, anytime and any orifice.
No prosecutor would pursue this without a stronger case. He can afford attorneys, he’s not going to confess or cop to any deal like your average nobody would do. My husband’s cousin did nine years in prison for coercing his ex-girlfriend into sex and is a sex offender for life. He “confessed” during a six hour interrogation before he saw his attorney or parents. Our justice system is all about filling prisons and who has the money and the clout to evade “justice” by hiring the right attorney. Disgusting bullshit.
There are so many of these creepy and criminal guys who still have careers afterwards, it’s so frustrating. And it’s not like their fans are only male. I do think Robin Thicke dug his own grave not because of his questionable “artistic expression”, mind you, but because his subsequent album turned out to be too lame for words. Priorities I guess.
This is really shaping up to be a sad week. And I know it’s awful to wish violent things on anyone but … some days. I do absolutely hope that some day someone will teach these people a lesson in basic human decency. The people who post intimate photos of female celebrities, treating them like cattle, and the guys who think there is such a thing as “rape-rape”. I’m waiting for the day when someone says “But it was consensual rape!” I swear, it can’t be far off. Ugh.
I just wanted to respond to the legal question posed about his admission on social media. There’s a thing called double jeopardy – you cannot be prosecuted for the same crime twice. The original crime was resolved when he pled no contest. Now he can go on social media and admit he did it, and they cannot re-prosecute him. Legal loophole (meant to protect innocent people from overzealous prosecutors).
As I understand it double jeopardy means they just can’t retry you if they didn’t like the first outcome, but IF sufficient new evidence comes to light then it’s not the same trial and double jeopardy doesn’t necessarily apply.
No, that isn’t true. You cannot be tried for the same crime twice, even if there is a smoking gun.
Now, some prosecutors have gone around this by trying them on a different charge, but that is not double jeopardy. And it won’t happen here as there is insufficient evidence for a rape conviction.
So if he gets knocked unconscious, or has to be put under for surgery, or hell, just falls asleep, he’s good with whoever doing whatever to him?
I just can’t even.
“If someone is passed out they’re not even WITH you consciously! so WITH implies consent.”
I stared at this comment when it came out yesterday, and I’m still not sure what it means. Like if someone is with you then that’s implied consent? But if this person was drugged or passed out than they aren’t with you-so since they aren’t with you that’s consent? It’s a mystery to me-someone explain.
I legitimately don’t understand what he’s trying to say here either.
No, he’s a f*cking idiot, don’t try to understand. He even got his “explanation” wrong. As if there’s a right way to explain it.
hahahaha! Best comment ever feebee!
I think he’s trying to say if she’s unconscious she’s not really there (only her unconscious body is) so basically there is no consent issue to worry about.
This is so twisted.
If that’s what he meant, that is truly disturbing. HOW did you figure that out? Like other posters, I just assumed he was talking no kind of sense (which is probably still the case).
I guess this b***h thinks it’s only rape when the woman is conscious and aware of the attack as it’s happening. Maybe that’s where he finds the pleasure in it, seeing the terror in a woman’s eyes as she is being brutalized. Passed out cold? Not so much. Then he can’t get that rush. Rape is a violent and heinous act and those who commit it enjoy the suffering of their victims. This has my blood boiling. But there will be no back lash, no price to pay as usual when a celeb utters something so vile. Sickening.
He could have killed her with that drug. Why is he not charged with attempted murder?
He was not charged with attempted murder because he did not attempt to murder her. He was charged of sexual assault because he sexually assaulted her.
Yes, your right. In my community a young girl was drugged in a date rape attempt. She went into convulsions, and died. The guys (older teens) were convicted.
Attempted murder is not that cut and dry, Mike. Taking an action which could conceivably result in a death is still grounds for an attempted murder charge, even though the person did not intend your death. Different jurisdictions vary, but had she suffered any significant medical issues due to the drug he gave her, it could easily have been charged.
He wasn’t charged with sexual assault either; only “funishing a controlled substance” (spiking her drink). A rape charge was dropped due to insufficient evidence. I mean, if the girl was passed out after having unwittingly taken ecstasy, what kind of evidence can she give, right?
FAOD: the last sentence was a sarcastic comment on what seems to be his attitude to this situation, rather than a “hey guys roofie those hoes up because if they unconcious they can’t give evidence, amirite?” type thing.
No idea who this git is, though a better moniker is ‘Vee Lo IQ’.
This “Say/do something totally beyond the Pale, then apologise fulsomely via social media and wipe the slate clean” carryon is getting out of control.
Any youngster observing Justin Blubber’s weekly absolution circus is being shown that *nothing* at all need be avoided, let alone atoned for if committed.
Laughing so hard at ‘Vee Lo IQ’!
Wow, how anyone can say something like that? I hope this comment will torpedo Cee Lo’s career and he will just disappear. But unfortunately there are too many examples of other celebrities making disgusting remarks or doing worse things and their careers are still going strong
This is so sad to hear, especially considering that he has a daughter. He’s disgusting.
I wonder how he would feel if this happened to his own daughter, that someone drugged her and had sex with her. I bet he’d want to kill the guy. But then, double standards aren’t unusual with people like that.
HE HAS A DAUGHTER???
With his way of thinking I doubt he’d care. And hey, if she’s passed out she wasn’t really raped. Someone b***h slap this idiot please!
Ugh, I didn’t know he had a daughter. I also didn’t know if you drug someone, which sort of implies you’re going to do something terrible to them against their will, the consequence is merely some therapy and yardwork. Oh noes.
I don’t have enough bad adjectives do describe this slime-mold of a man.
Somewhere in there he mentions and if you were unsuccessful how is that rape? I guess he thinks because he never actually completed the act it isn’t inappropriate or a violation of her? I can’t remember what he said in that comment.
This is disturbing because I love Cee-Lo’s music. I watched a story on him. He was a shady and violent guy in his younger days. But before that, growing up, he had an interesting and very sad story. Then his mom became a quadriplegic on top of it all. He came out of that violent life.
The thing is during his time in his 20s he married a beautiful, I mean beautiful, intelligent woman, and they have children. As his career took him away form Atlanta more and more and living the lifestyle, they finally divorced. But they are still close. She has a lot of love for him even as divorced parents, and seem to have great children. HE loves and respects her also. It’s rare to see a divorced couple keep intact the friendship and respect they once had even if the marriage is over. So here he seemed like a good person to me no matter his past.
I am just so disturbed by his comments and it’s left me so disappointed as a fan. I imagine he’s done himself in on the Voice. I expect they will quietly not renew his contract. He and Christina were rotated in and out the past few seasons. I don’t know if he was supposed to be on the new season or not. But the fallout from this will ruin that gig. His music career will go on because he dabbles in different genres.
He and this woman had dated for months and had had sex before the night in question. She came forward like a year later saying she found herself naked in bed with him after that date and hadn’t consented to sex, was slipped ecstasy . So I always tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because of the murky details. They dropped the sexual assault charges , and I thought the only charge left was a felony of furnishing ecstasy to her because a year later she taped him where he admitted they took ecstasy. He never admitted in the tape to slipping it to her. So was never charged with slipping her a drug to harm her. but furnishing ecstasy to someone is a felony and is what he was charged with.
Thanks for the extra info. The thing is, if he had just STFU about it, let his lawyers handle it, issued a public statement condemning rape (and not trying to make it seem like his situation was an exception), and volunteered at a DV shelter then maybe people could forgive him or as you say, “give him the benefit of the doubt”. But his incredibly cavalier comments make it pretty clear that rape is something he’s capable of.
@Jayna I’ve followed Cee Lo since the Goodie Mob Days and as a fan it is very disappointing.
It doesn’t sound to me as if he “came out of that violent life.” It sounds like he’s still in it. He thinks it’s okay to give someone a drug without their knowledge and have sex with them and that isn’t rape. I don’t care how recently they had sex, it’s still rape. Perhaps the details of his childhood explain why he is a heartless rapist, but they don’t excuse it. Not that I think you are excusing it, I just mean I don’t think a difficult childhood is enough reason to give him a pass.
I think Jayna was just saying that he seemed like someone who was reformed, had a shady past but got his shit together, but apparently, he is not. Or that’s what I took away from it.
So the sexual assault charges were dropped because of “lack of evidence”. A commenter above said that he had tweeted something about not completing the act or something like that. They likely did a rape kit, and didn’t find anything. This is ideal for a rapist because they can perpetuate that sense of denial when the reality is that he only got away with rape because he didn’t “finish”.
I agree that it doesn’t matter whether he dated her or not. She might have joined him for a drink as friends (I occasionally meet an ex to catch up over a beer) and he ended up drugging and raping her. This is another example of men thinking they can take what is not theirs. “Well, because we had sex before, that means I can have it any time I want”.
A man does not suddenly own a woman’s body because he had sex with her once or twice in the past.
God, I am so tired of this sh*t.
TOK
He may have gotten away with it not only because he may not have finished, but also because she didn’t rush to to the ER post event.
And that’s the worst. So many who have just been assaulted, confused, sick, beaten, ashamed, afraid have to waste no time reporting this.
No time considering their lives will be turned upside down and they’ll be blamed for anothers actions.
Ugh. I just can’t with this thread anymore. Heading to trash someone’s outfit. This has me too upset on real issues.
That’s what I was thinking too, FLORC. If she waited a week or so to report it, there may be no clear evidence left.
Not her fault, she was probably still processing the horror of it all and maybe even still trying to figure out exactly what happened, if she had been drugged to the point of unconsciousness. It’s just unfortunate that they couldn’t slap rape charges against this guy.
I won’t speak for others on this. I can only speak for myself.
If I wasn’t injured fighting back (and in need of a fair amount of medical attention) after waking up to my assault I think I would have kept silent. And I had moments of regretting coming forward at all after I saw how quickly people blamed me. If I had a day to process I likely would have ignored the whole thing, lived in denial, or just withdrew from public.
That some women need a few days to process a trauma like that only reaffirms it imo they suffered in some unexpected and horrible way. And some instinctively seek out a shower. It’s not a logical thought process. It’s more evidence they’re in shock.
Another point. Some early on said this woman was changing her story. It’s not widely known, but is common that when someone is so desperate to make sure they’re believed/protected some facts get altered. A pocket r butter knife can become a steak knife or chef’s knife. It’s not even a deliberate lie. It’s a survival mechanism.
Everything about this woman’s story seemed honest and CeeLo’s foolish comment should pretty much confirm to many he’s scum that takes no issue with this act.
You could willingly have sex with someone 5 times a day for a year but if one day you do not consent (being drugged counts as non consent), it is rape.
This completely.
That’s what I was trying to say but you said it better.
Exactly!
Unfortunately, sadly, maddeningly, many do not get that. I have acquaintances and family members both male and female who do not get it.
“So I always tried to give him the benefit of the doubt because of the murky details. ”
I don’t blame you for trying to give him the benefit of the doubt—particularly as a fan that wanted to believe that he was a good person.
But it seems like the benefit of the doubt is given to an accused rapist WAY more often than it ever is extended to the alleged victims. This isn’t a stab at you, Jayna. It just struck me that over and over I read articles or stories where the victim isn’t believed–because people are trying to figure out what he/she did to contribute to getting raped—while looking for ways to excuse the accused.
And as far as Cee Lo Green’s comments go. I just can’t even with this. And for all the morons like him that are making these statements out in the open—imagine how many more FEEL this way and don’t say it? And we wonder why rape is so common.
No, you misunderstand some of what I meant and you were right about the rest as a fan wanting to believe he was a good person. When I first heard it I was disgusted back when it came out, the allegation. Then the next article was it was an ex-girlfriend bringing the charges from an incident a year before and trying to tape him. He was never charged with sexual assault just looked into and charged with the ecstasy charge. So not really researching it any further, I thought maybe it was a shakedown. An ex he dumped and she tried to come back a year later and get some money with allegations. It does happen. It kind of went away. I just forgot about it to be honest until his twitter comments. Then with these comments, which were appalling, I went back and reread some of the stuff regarding what was on the tape, and he gave her ecstasy without her consent saying he thought they would have a better time or something, apologizing on the tape. He never outright said he slipped it to her, so a he said she said as far as proof he was intending to do anything, and I guess the report said she was aware enough, blah, blah. I took it she wasn’t completely knocked out.
But it doesn’t matter, she didn’t know he was giving her ecstasy. Well, that’s drugging somebody, whether they were dating and having sex before that night or not, and it was creepy and it was a violation of her. People say on ecstasy sex is that much hotter. It’s why a lot of people take ecstasy, the sex. I don’t think he was trying to knock her out. I think he was trying to get her all horny so he could go back to her hotel room and have hot sex. But she didn’t knowingly take it. He slipped it to her whether he wants to admit it or not. That is frightening that he would do that. Did he think he had the right because he had had sex with her before? What if she had had a reaction? I doubt it’s the first time he’s done that. He can talk it away all he wants but he drugged her without her consent. They didn’t mutual decide to take ecstasy together. Very very disappointing. He has daughters or a daughter. What a role model.
Agree, I loved his music and he seemed interesting. Now I’ve lost all respect for him as a human, at least where it concerns his understanding of women’s rights. Sigh. :/
Maybe his wiener was not operational, and that is why he is saying that it wasn’t rape.
To me, unconsciousness is the CLEAREST example of when rape happens. A person (let’s be clear here, this happens to men too) who is not aware of the act can by definition not consent. I really, really can’t follow his argument. The only thing I can think is that some people argue that since the victim is not aware of the harm being done to them, the crime does not exist (or at the very least is mitigated). But that doesn’t work in any other legal context (if somebody steals from you but you never realize it, that doesn’t negate the theft).
An aside, I bet the Voice producers are thrilled that they swapped him out for this upcoming season, or they’d have a terrible mess on their hands.
As I explained above I think in his mind if the person is unconscious basically their body is fair game.
They cannot refuse sex because they are out of it and if they can’t refuse sex then it isn’t rape.
You can’t follow his argument because his argument is a bunch of crap. No one can follow it.
Whatever his view of consent or rape, the law is quite clear and ignorance of the law is never an excuse whatever crime you commit.
Can’t believe he can plead guilty to the drug charge and get away with the rape. And since when is AA appropriate treatment for rapists?
There wasn’t enough evidence to charge him with rape. As for the drugs, it sounds like he admitted drugging her or at the very least giving her drugs.
As I said upthread, AA is a great program, but in this case it is a bullsh*t punishment.
So if a burglar doesn’t break any glass then he’s not really stealing anything, and can take whatever he wants. There’s no proof!
Ahhhhhh this guy makes me rage! What is wrong with the world?! How full of crap and delusion can one person be?
This whole thing just makes me want to throw a brick through his window. Especially if he happens to be sitting there at the time.
i think you would HAVE to be unconscious to have sex with him he is so gross. i can’t imagine anyone would willingly touch him.
These tweets are literally the most shocking things I’ve read in a long time! maybe even ever.
I agree. Especially so considering he’s in a position of celebrity and could still so easily take advantage of someone else if he wanted. The “falling tree in a forest” argument is beyond disgusting and indeed shocking. I’m glad he said it though, makes it a little less easy for the masses to forgive and forget. Though I’d be surprised if this hurts his career for very long, which is sad.
Well yet another one who has never received a cent if my money and never will. This isn’t about a single accusation or a plea bargain or anything else. He said this! And I’m sorry but if you believe that apology was written by him you’re insane. Spread this story far and wide (he said this…no denial!) one show gone and this guy needs to be finished off.
This type of alleged thinking is a very good example of why we are duty-bound to jump up and scream ‘No!!’ when some dimwit sleb compares press intrusion to rape. The word must not be diluted or rendered ‘gentler’.
(As for guys like this, I suggest their lady friends would do well to get gone, pdq. Shun such men, and their unacceptable opinions.)
So you stop being a human being when people drug you?? This man is an ignorant f-.
A girl I knew in high school was gang-raped on her way home from school and she didn’t remember it. No, not just didn’t tell anybody, her brain dealt with it by hiding it deep inside. She would wake up screaming in the middle of the night with nightmares and became fearful all the time. Her parents and friends knew something was wrong but she couldn’t explain any of it, until they found out she was pregnant. It took very careful, intensive psychotherapy to get her to remember any of it. The boys were charged and two of them plea-bargained. Two were convicted. So, Cee-lo and any other creep who thinks the way you do, you would be very wrong.
Yup. I was going to add this to my comment above. It’s called suppression and it’s a coping mechanism for many rape survivors.
This man…ugh, his poor daughter.
That is so sad. What a tragic story.
The human brain has amazing, complicated ways to protect itself. Stuff like repressed memories, disassociation and DID (so called “multiple personalities”) are very real reactions to trauma. Saying “you would just remember” is utter bs. He is an idiot.
That is awful. I can’t even begin to imagine that. I hope she’s gotten some good therapy.
How horrible. Poor girl
He is disgusting. This is a clear example of why rape and other sex crimes are actually about power and not sex. He is famous and could find someone willing but that is not what he or others like him actually want. It is about force and power not sex.
I interpreted this differently than most of you. I THINK what he is saying is that if a woman is passed out, it isn’t okay to have sex with her, because she is not mentally “with you”, but if she is interacting with you, its of course totally fine because she isn’t unconscious. Because people on drugs, especially drugs they didn’t choose to take, are apparently consenting. They wouldn’t have done it if they didn’t want to, amirite? Evidently, he thinks it can’t be rape if she is talking to you. There’s rape culture for you. He deserves to go to jail if he drugged someone without her knowledge, and for having sex with someone who could not legally consent.
Initially, I thought something similar. I mean, there’s no way someone would say that it’s okay to rape someone who is unconscious, right? So I thought maybe it meant “she was actively participating WITH me, I had no idea she was so drugged-up that she’d blackout”.
But then I got to the “women who have really been raped REMEMBER” bit and gave up.
Whatever he meant, he is a megadouche. There is no excuse. He knew she was on drugs, whether she took them willingly or not. This sounds like just more of these entitlement issues some people seem to have about sex.
But if a drug is used to induce you to participate in an act that you would have said no to when you are stone cold sober, then it is still rape in my book, whether or not you “finished” or whether actual penetration even took place. Even if all you accomplished was to get someone naked on your bed, and nothing else happened, even that is rape because you have gotten a person to participate in a sexual act that they would have said no to without the employment of the drug.
It is rape even if they would have said yes.
And of course, I in no way share his belief, nor am I defending him. At all.
Legally, you’re not allowed to coerce people into having sex, so yes, drugging them to make them “consensual” is illegal. It is, of course, illegal to drug someone without their knowledge or consent. It also doesn’t have to be rape, sexual battery is also illegal.
He actually said he was sorry… that his comments were taken out of context!!! How fcking obtuse can someone be?
In case it isn’t clear: you may never have sex (including any type of sex or touching or any other unwanted contact) with anyone male or female without verbal and continued consent AND the person should not be cognitively affected by drugs or alcohol.
It’s fairly simple everyone. If you drug someone, they cannot consent. If they are asleep or unconscious or underage or impaired sifnificantly by alcohol they can NEVER consent and it will ALWAYS be rape in the eyes of the law.
Thanks Lex. I didn’t see your comment until I had already posted mine, but you said it better than I did.
Why isn’t this sex offender in jail? Disgusting human being.
So phuckin’ gross! That lady needs to get revenge,like mara’s character in the girl with the dragon tattoo.
Wow! What a pos. That’s so offensive and wrong.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but he didn’t plead guilty to furnishing ecstasy, he pled no contest. Which I think means he can still maintain his innocence if she tries to sue him in civil court.
No, a plea of no contest is essentially an agreement of guilt that usually involves a deal with the prosecutor. The accused is agreeing they will not contest or dispute the charge and on that condition, they serve whatever punishment the plea decrees, not much in this case. He is still open to civil prosecution, but would probably settle out of court. Although often unsatisfactory to victims, plea deals spare the state the expense of a possibly fruitless prosecution effort and serve to quickly resolve legal disputes that can drag on for years within the court system.
The sick thing is that even after all of this plenty of people including women will continue to buy his music so there will be no reprecusions for him. I mean look at the support Chris Brown has, that R Kelly guy and Mike Tyson. There are way too many to count.
It also hurts when women say stupid things in support of these violent offenders.
Completely agree ^^
We should vote these b*stards out of circulation, shun their very existence.
We are mad as hell, and we are not going to take any more! So, sisters, let’s show we have some self-respect here……guys like this are simply out of the question, and balls to context.
Oh trust me, I’ve already encountered comments like “He can rape me anytime” on other sites. Some people just have no self worth.
Oh Jesus Jiminy Christ! Seriously? But why am I even surprised. I remember the ignorant jackholes who were tweeting that Chris Brown could beat them anytime and then as now it made me want to puke.
My friend’s daughter just threw out all his albums behind that comment. I was proud of her.
Well, take heart, because for all those that don’t care, there are plenty more that do. I have stood by my Woody Allen boycott for over twenty years now. This creep is just one more on my list.
The fat lady is pretty much singing on his career now. He is completely toxic and nobody is going to want to be associated with him, presumably. Not sure how much money he has but I am pretty sure a civil action will be forthcoming.
I wish I were as optimistic as you. With what history has shown, this will not kill his career at all. Kobe Bryant, Chris Brown, Mel Gibson, hell no even cared/remembers what Jimmy Page did (kidnapped a 14-yr old, had sex with her, and sequestered her for years so as to avoid trouble). Maybe he’ll go away on vacation somewhere nice for awhile, but that’s about it. I would love to be wrong, of course.
Jimmy Page? Dear god. (I never did think a mania for Pugin was all that healthy).
Well, not wishing to scare little frail things like Taylor Swift with any man-hating rants, but being alert to the unrelenting threat is surely common sense. Especially if, as we learn on this thread, other women egg on the very men we need to isolate and avoid.
Deplorable.
These type of asshats actually think that a victim who is impaired and who says yes while impaired is giving consent. Have they actually seen videos of people impaired? People will say and do all kinds of sh*t they wouldn’t normally do! They totally know it’s assault while hoping others buy in to their way of thinking. Sadly, it works way too often. Such B.S.
This has to be up there with the worst apologies ever: “I truly and deeply apologize for the comments attributed to me on Twitter. Those comments were idiotic, untrue and not what I believe.”
“Comments attributed to me”?!? How about taking some personal responsibility? They were comments YOU made. “Attributed” is what you’d say if your account had been hacked and it wasn’t actually you making the statements.
What’s that saying about it being better for people to think you’re an idiot and say nothing as oppose to opening your mouth and confirming it? Well, he just confirmed it.
He is disgusting with his train of thought.
I can’t believe how disgusting he is.
I haven’t said anything about this because I just don’t have the words.
And that effin slap on the wrist he got for drugging someone…I can’t.
Perhaps if he woke up in the gray bar hotel & found some huge blubbery dump truck that’s even bigger than he is having his way with him, he would see things more clearly . Just sayin’
I like the way you think.
Doesn’t he have a daughter?
Hard to understand what purpose he had in drugging her unless it was to assault her. It’s too bad that the charges are considered separate.
Sick F*ck
He’s a disgusting pig. Used to be a fan, not anymore.
Jesus. I used to think that I had a pretty good creep-radar, but lately I´m not so sure. I´ve watched him on The Voice and found him likeable (though, looking back, there where some slightly gross comment towards female contestants) . It´s so unsettling to know that pretty much anyone can be a psycho, no matter how harmless they may seem.
Not to freak you out, but some of the very worst people ever were extremely charming and personable; “creep-radar” & “gut-feeling”, can’t always be relied on. Remember most sexual assaults are not by strangers, just like most homicides.
I don’t even understand his syntax. I can’t parse it to figure out what it means. I read it as he is admitting that if a woman is unconscious, she’s NOT with you, and if she’s with you it implies consent. So he’s saying that an unconscious woman does not give consent.
Yes, I think he might have been trying to say that in a mangled way, which is the opposite of what most people are assuming he meant. In the infamous bit about remembering, I think he’s just saying that if she doesn’t remember it, how can she be sure she was raped (with no physical evidence that anything happened) and that she did not give consent if it did happen. I don’t think he was actually saying it was ok to have sex with an unconscious person, but rather was questioning how she could be sure that she wasn’t conscious and that everything wasn’t consensual.
Plenty of people do have sex under the influence of alcohol and drugs they have freely taken, and many of them may be too fuzzy about the details to know if they kept consenting or not. She wasn’t a random stranger but rather someone he had been in a relationship with for a long time. I haven’t been following the case so I don’t know the details of her accusation, but I can see how the context would make that part of it much harder to prove with no physical evidence to support it.
The problem, though, is if he did drug her without her consent. The drug itself puts the idea of consent off the table, a concept that I’m glad to see this is opening up discussion about. I never did understand why what Joe Francis did on Girls Gone Wild could possibly be legal, for instance. He got the girls clearly drunk and was then telling them to take off clothes for the camera. The one infomercial I saw had a particularly disturbing scene where a girl who had to be on more than alcohol and acted like she was in a somber trance was doing everything they told her to do. How could any of those girls be considered to have given consent? How can the consent of a drugged/drunken person be legal?
I’d love to see someone go full-on Lisbeth Salander on his ass.
This is what I have been thinking the whole time! He needs to get Salandered!
Thanks. Maybe if the word is used enough, “Salander” will become a verb.
No words. Absolutely no words.
CeeLo does not have a biological daughter, I’m not sure where people are getting that from. He has a son and was step-father to his ex-wife’s daughters (one of whom was on My Super Sweet Sixteen). His son is a brother to those girls, though, and I’m not sure how much contact he has with them. It doesn’t matter because he is a creep and sometimes a step dad can be the only father figure one has (I think he has been divorced from their mom for a decade, though) but I thought I would clear that up. I also saw that he said something on twitter last night about how he didn’t agree with the comments “attributed” to him. Attributed to you?????? You mean the exact words you typed on your twitter account???
He was a sexist pig on The Voice, and I’m so glad he’s off and Taylor Swift is on. Sooooooo glad his TBS reality show has been cancelled because of this. Also, he’s tweeted numerous piggish and homophobic comments over the years. He’s bragged about beating up homeless people and torturing stray animals.
I never got why he was included on The Voice. He has sucked and been a lowlife since forever.
I also wonder how many women Ceelo has done this to, to have this mentality. These views weren’t created in a vacuum.
Drugging a woman unconscious is probably the only way he can get sex. You couldn’t pay me enough to get next to that POS.
Ugh… This make me disgusted, especially since I like one of his songs… Gross…
Ceelo, you’re a creep and I’ve deleted you from my music playlist. And since karma is indeed a bitch, I know you’ll get yours in the end.
🙁 Side note he looks like the Cheshire Cat
Good god, that picture. So creepy.