Adrian Grenier on Entourage’s misogyny: ‘When I first read the script, I declined’

Adrian Grenier goes a shirtless dip while on the beach with his girlfriend in Miami
Here’s Adrian Grenier, 38, shirtless on the beach and going for a run in Miami yesterday. He’s a good looking guy he’s just much hotter to me when his hair is wet. I had the pleasure of seeing Grenier in person a couple of years ago. I thought the same thing back then, that he needed a haircut, but I have a thing for bald men.

Grenier is of course known for his work on HBO’s Entourage, which was finally made into a movie over three years after the series wrapped in September, 2011. The film is coming out in June, 2015. In the interim Grenier has focused on filmmaking, he’s made documentaries such as Teenage Paparazzo and the new six minute film, Bee’s Invoice (you can watch it here). Bee’s Invoice is about the hidden economic value of natural resources and makes the case that good environmental policy is good economic policy. It’s highly stylized and is both informative and entertaining. Grenier is a thoughtful person who is trying to make a difference, at least that’s the impression I had after seeing him speak.

In a new interview with The Daily Beast, Grenier addresses the main argument against Entourage – that it’s misogynistic in that the female characters are just vessels for male fantasy. He defends the show, which is understandable but I don’t know if he makes a good case here. There’s a lot more to the interview and you can read it on The Daily Beast. Here are some excerpts:

One criticism often levied at Entourage was the depiction of women on the show—that they were, by and large, empty vessels merely meant to service the needs of the male characters or serve as eye-catching “scenery.”
Right. Eye-candy. Great furniture, though? [Laughs] I would disagree. When I first read the script, I declined to audition. I said, “This is misogynistic, it’s base, it’s immature, and superficial. Pass.” I was ultimately convinced otherwise, and I’m very glad that I was. In retrospect, I was wrong. On the surface, yes, it may be that. It’s candy in a lot of ways—and not just the women, but the conspicuous consumption and indulgence of cars, drugs, parties, and so forth. It’s a male fantasy in a lot of ways.

But at its core, and I think the reason why the show lasted so long, is that it’s about brotherhood and friendship. It’s about the values that transcend all of that stuff and actually allow them to survive all that glitz and glamour. Plus, I don’t know if you’ve ever been to Hollywood, but the show is a reflection of reality. There are a lot of women there who give women a bad name because of the way they portray themselves, carry themselves, and indulge themselves, and there are a lot of men who help to propagate that. So to ignore that reality would be disingenuous. And this isn’t a “activism” show. I’d tell Doug, “Come one, do they have to drive a Hummer? What are we trying to say about the environment? Can they drive a Prius?” And he’d tell me, “That’s not who these guys are. It would not be authentic if they drove a Prius.” And I respected that, because it held a mirror to reality.

Also, a lot of the tertiary “wallpaper” characters on the show are eye-candy, but many of the recurring characters are strong women. Dana Gordon. Sloan. Ari’s wife. Vince’s girlfriends. Carla Gugino’s character. Sasha Grey was… empowered. [Laughs]

[From The Daily Beast]

I think that Grenier is saying that the women were wallpaper because that’s the reality of that situation, just like the fact that his character drove a Hummer. The show wasn’t endorsing that lifestyle, it was just portraying it authentically. He’s also admitting that it’s not something he condones and that he did have a knee jerk reaction to how misogynistic it was, which he eventually got over. I don’t have a dog in this fight because I never got into Entourage. I tried to watch it, it was just too much of a bro show for me to enjoy.

Grenier also admitted that he was involved in collective bargaining with the other cast to make sure they got the best deal for the movie. He said, of the controversy over the wait to make the film, that it was “Politics and it’s sh*t-talking. People are looking for controversy, and they’ll find it if they have to. You negotiate, and until the deal is done, there is no movie… Our contracts on the show were one thing and then after that there were no contracts, so some players wanted to manipulate that fact. But we decided as a team to stick together, and stand united.” Good for them. He seems like a stand up guy.

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Adrian Grenier goes a shirtless dip while on the beach with his girlfriend in Miami

Adrian Grenier goes out for a rigorous jog on the beach in Miami

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  1. Talie says:

    He’s really skated along that show — ultimately, Jeremy Piven became the star. Adrien almost completely faded into the background.

  2. Erinn says:

    I’m somewhat embarrassed to admit that I watched “Drive me Crazy” way too many times. I never watched Entourage – but man – ’99 Grenier was so freaking cute. Big grin, curly hair, darker features and gorgeous eyes. I will say though, I do enjoy more grown up Grenier as well.

    • Theoriginalkitten says:

      I’ve always thought he was cute and I like that he’s a thoughtful, intelligent guy, bug he gets a bit of a side-eye from me on the “women giving women a bad name” bs. I guess by that logic then the men on Entourage give men a bad name.

      • Erinn says:

        Agreed, as usual Kitt

      • Kitten says:

        Sorry about the typos-I was typing from my phone. sigh

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Second all that.

      • Bridget says:

        He gets an automatic side eye for being friends with Paris Hilton. Not exactly the greatest endorsement.

      • FLORC says:

        But some women do give other women a bad name. The overindulge in the negative stereotype and play that off like it’s just the nature of a female.
        And I agree. Men also giveother men a bad name. Especially in Entourage. IT’s a negative male stereotype played up.

        Ugh he’s friends with paris?
        I’m a bit ashamed I dated a guy because he looked like him. A cuter version, but still.

      • Kitten says:

        @FLORC-the issue I have with his statement is that he’s saying some women are responsible for the representation of ALL women. Also, the implication here is that women are held to a higher standard than men-we are supposed to be chaste and moral.

        So do men that behave badly, like the Jersey Shore cast or characters on a show like Tony Soprano make men as a whole look awful?

        The truth is that no one would ever dare to say that because generally men have carte blanche to be sexually promiscuous without it tarnishing the way men are perceived in our society. THAT’S why it bugs.

        On another note, I’m jealous that you dated a guy that looks like him 😉

      • FLORC says:

        TOK
        I get your point now and agree with you. Thanks for clarifying!

        He was so hot, but not much outside of that. Like Grenier i’m guessing.

    • Pixi says:

      Haha I second that

    • Adrien says:

      Shut up! I saw it 100 times. I have the 2 pc. vcd for it kept somewhere. Ali Larter was super hot. And yeah I’m super aware that Stephen Collins and his wife Faye were castmembers.

    • megs283 says:

      Yes! My crush in ’99 is the only reason I clicked on this article.

  3. Leftovers says:

    I did not realise he was so into the environment, and in such an interesting way. Several points up in my consideration.

  4. LAK says:

    In terms of authenticity, that show was documentary.

  5. Theoriginalkitten says:

    I’ve always liked him but his defense of Entourage sounds very well-rehearsed.

    On another note, C/B–I’ve never been into bald dudes at all until I started dating my current bf. I’ve actually seen old pics of him with hair and I find him much hotter with a shaved head.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Love bald. Husband is balding, not quite to the point of shaving, but I look forward to the day. Your new bf sounds very cute. He’s so lucky to have found the Kitten. Does he like your babies?

    • Celebitchy says:

      Right? A lot of men look better bald. When a guy has really fluffy hair or needs a haircut it bugs. For over 10 years I’ve had a thing for bald and balding dudes, but hot ones obv. Have you seen the Bald Guys are Hot meme?

  6. Chris says:

    Liked the show for the most part but was getting a little over it by the end. Hope the movie turns out alright but I’ve got a feeling it’s gonna stink like Sex in the City 2.

  7. TX says:

    He’s right. I lived and worked in Hollywood for a few years and Entourage was right on, unfortunatly. I couldn’t even watch it. Tried to watch a few episodes and I finally just said “I see this every day. Why would I watch it on a show?!”

    • Betty says:

      I live in LA and I watched it because I thought Ari (Jeremy Piven) and many of the supporting characters were hilarious. I liked that it was about friendship/brotherhood and that Vince (Adrien Grenier) came from a working class background and tried to “keep it real” while in L.A. It was also interesting to see characters like Turtle, Eric and Ari evolve. Was the show misogynistic? Yes. Even living in L.A. I questioned whether that many women would throw themselves at the Vince character so shamelessly. And it wasn’t even the so-called groupies, but people like Carla Cugino (who played his manager or agent at one point, I forget which) were willing to sleep with him. It was as if all women anywhere were just waiting to drop what they were doing to give it up to Vince. Dana Gordon was a “strong” woman but allowed herself to be used by Ari. I think Debi Mazar was the only character who kept a purely professional relationship with Vince, Ari and the gang.

  8. Rusty machine says:

    I’m getting Benicio Del Toro vibes in the header photo.

  9. Adrien says:

    Adrian looks like a hairy version of Chris Pine. He seems like a nice guy. Never got into Entourage. None of the characters were likable. Oh wait, there’s one: the Filipino assistant of Piven.

  10. Gretchen says:

    OH HELL NO: “There are a lot of women there who give women a bad name because of the way they portray themselves, carry themselves, and indulge themselves”

    • Tapioca says:

      And yet the casting couch still exists, when if everyone had enough professional integrity to decline the offer of screwing for roles it wouldn’t.

      And that brush tars all actresses – remember the accusations that Jennifer Lawrence’s nude selfies were somehow “proof” of sleeping her way to the top?

      • Gretchen says:

        @Tapioca
        Concerning the casting couch, personally, I don’t judge women in that situation, I judge the men in power who are exploiting people desperate for work. Sure, professional integrity is all grand in theory, but I’m not going to condemn women for being vulnerable and taking an opportunity they may have been struggling and auditioning years for in a highly competitive and sexist environment.

        The very idea that women can “give women a bad name”, is a deeply chauvinistic and ridiculous sentiment. If he wanted to make a point about Hollywood types, surely he could have phrased his comment more along the lines of “Hollywood can bring out the worst in people, we wanted the show to reflect that”, rather than focusing on the women who, according to his seeming finishing school standards, incorrectly “portray”, “carry” and “indulge” themselves (whatever the hell that means). To me, it reads like, “we wanted to have good portrayals of women, sadly though in Hollywood, they’re all a bunch of superficial wh*res. The show didn’t have a women problem, women’s behaviour is the problem”.

    • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

      Yeah, what does that mean, exactly?

    • neha says:

      I think it’s a true statement, and it doesn’t really speak to his discrimination towards women, but that of general society’s against women. All women are seen as gold diggers or groupies desperate for fame and money, because of a select few. It’s not fair, but it’s not wrong to admit that’s where that perception comes from. For the record, there are some men that give men a bad name. How many times have we heard “all men are cheaters”, because of a few (okay, a lot of) men?

      This isn’t really a defense of Entourage, because I did have an issue with how incredibly homophobic the show was and, yes, its portrayal of women (not really the groupies, but smart women like Dana and Carla who just became sex objects).

      • Kitten says:

        Right, except there’s a tacid resignation-bordering-on- acceptance that is carried with the “all men are cheaters” generalization, whereas the “all women are gold-diggers” statement implies that women are villanous creatures taking advantage of poor, innocent men.

        If not by women, men are almost unanimouzly praised by other men for their virility, while women who are called gold-diggers are abhorred and vilified by both men and women. No matter how you slice it, men get the better deal.

  11. Triple Cardinal says:

    Saw him a few weeks ago on PBS’s “Finding Your Roots” program. He was sweet and funny and emotional when discussing his mother and his family background. He seems like good people.

    • Celebitchy says:

      Ooh I will have to see if I can watch that. I really like him as a person, he’s just not Hollywood and he’ll tell you about it without sounding pretentious at all. Maybe that’s why we haven’t seen him much lately.

      • Bridget says:

        We haven’t seen much of him lately simply because he just didn’t happen outside of Entourage, but he was smart enough to branch out while he could (hence the documentaries). He seems nice, but he spent a long time hitting the Hollywood – maybe he aged out of it?

    • emma33 says:

      For some reason I love Entourage. I think it brings out the alpha-male in me!

      I watched Adrian’s documentary Teenage Papparazo and have also seen the documentary where he examines his relationship with his father. I was pretty impressed — he’s a solid film-maker and he has things to say.

      I don’t think he’s a great actor though. Jeremy Piven and some of the other bros (and women) on Entourage did a better job than him. Adrian was kind of like the background wallpaper. I agree that there were strong women presented on the show, buuuuut….there was a solid amount of gratuitous topless females as well. It was definitely a show that presented the male version of a Hollywood fantasy, not the female’s.

  12. Froggy says:

    i agree about the bald men. He does nothing for me.
    I watched Entourage and will def be renting the movie.

  13. Jess says:

    I really enjoyed that show but that was primarily because of Ari. He does seem like a pretty stand up guy (and very hot)!

  14. Arya Martell says:

    I watched the first two seasons of Entourage before I got disgusted and turned it off. I think they were playing Hollywood. I sincerely believe Hollywood is really like how they portray it for many people so I think that yes there is misogyny in Entourage but this is authentic present day misogyny in Hollywood.

    Is it just me or does Adrian try to come off too much as the “hero” for the cast and crew to make this crappy film. Maybe he just is this stand up guy. I just feel the interview goes overboard in stating so.

  15. Skins says:

    I liked the show, but it was pretty played out by the final season. I smell a bomb

  16. Dana m says:

    I love entourage.

    I also saw Adrian G in person a little over a year ago at an event in austin. He is better looking in person and yes he was grunged out. What a beautiful sexy man!! Even my husband mentioned he was really good looking in person. It also makes him sexier knowing he does a lot to help young musicians gain exposure. AG stood next to me while I danced to the band we were watching. So fun!!!

  17. Bridget says:

    I get what he’s trying to say… but he’s seriously going to compare the women on the show to a Hummer?

  18. mernymerlyn says:

    That show ended terribly.
    I watched until the bitter end. I remember it would upset me how they set up the female characters most of the time.
    My favorite ironically was Ari. When they focused on his soft side and how much he loved his wife that was my favorite
    Oh and LLOYD!!!!!!

  19. ToodySezHey says:

    Entourage is Sex in the City for men.

    I never watched the show, too much testosterone for me, but at the same time I get what Adrien’s saying and understand.

    I mean folks went crazy for The Wire. They loved the gritty realness of the life of drug dealers ,shady cops and crooked politicians.

    So if we can gritty realism for the wire why can’t we have suntan lotion and latte realness for Entourage? It’s an ugly reality, buts it’s still reality.

    • Bridget says:

      People didnt like The Wire just because it was ‘gritty’, the liked it because it was exceptionally well done and powerful. And even then, people didn’t even watch the show when it originally ran. There is absolutely no comparison between the shows aside from the fact that they were both on HBO

      • Kitten says:

        This times a million. The Wire moved me in a way that no television show had ever moved me.

        It was the best show that no one ever watched when it was on air.

      • Bridget says:

        One of the greatest TV shows ever. If the final season hadn’t been so absurd it could have been the best ever. The season that took place in the school? Amazing and heartbreaking and powerful. But then again, I watched on Netflix, so guilty of having ignored it on the air as well.

  20. neha says:

    I’m embarrassed to say that I read Courtney Robertson’s book (the villain from the Bachelor) and she talks about her relationship with him quite a bit. It’s, um, very interesting.

  21. LaLa says:

    My friend and I were invited as guests to a charity event a few years back for the work that we did for said charity. Adrian G was one of multiple celebrity guests.
    During an intermission, we spotted Adrian texting on his phone, unaccompanied. We figured it would be a good moment to ask for a quick picture with him, since we wouldn’t be interrupting anything. Well, you would have thought I asked permission to name his first born. He actually rolled his eyes at me when I told him a was a fan (I used to watch Entourage with my husband all the time). I almost said forget it, but my friend was already by his side. You would never guess that he was a grumpy prick by the photo. He definitely knows how to turn that smile on and off quickly.
    Unrelated to Adrian, but on the same note, Sophia Bush was at the same event, and she was the most gracious, happy and accommodating person. She really was a joy to be around!