Benedict Cumberbatch on Sophie: ‘I’m really, really happy & I’m happy to say it’

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Wow, I knew Benedict Cumberbatch would be featured in the December issue of Vogue (the Amy Adams cover), but I figured it would be a small write-up about The Imitation Game, maybe one decent photo. Well, Vogue gave Bendy Otter the big Vogue treatment, with a lengthy interview and a special photoshoot. The Mario Testino photo that Vogue used features that f—king little hat though. #VogueFail. Anyway, you can read Benedict’s full Vogue interview here. Some highlights:

He loves being an actor: “I really, really love my job. I love sets. I love crews. I love theaters. I love audiences.”

He runs through Hampstead Heath: “I just love the look of the trees and the smell of the wood smoke.”

The Bletchley Park cryptanalysts: “We’re like the Avengers.”

Alan Turing: “The algorithms Alan used during the war are still used in Google’s search engine. I felt a responsibility to show him properly. Alan’s face should be on the back of banknotes like Darwin and Newton. It should be on the front of history textbooks and science books.”

He says it was “bliss” hanging out with Johnny Depp on ‘Black Mass’: “We rolled cigarettes and sat around and talked and talked and talked. He’s a friend now. Which is an amazing thing to think about.”

His obsessed fans: He finds such adulation enjoyable (“I’m tickled pink”) and occasionally daft. Some fans ask him to sign pictures of otters, an animal he’s said to resemble—“It’s a great disservice,” he says dryly, “to a wonderful woodland amphibious creature.” Others simply melt in his presence. “I have boyfriends coming up to say, ‘My girlfriend is obsessed with you,’ and I say, ‘I’m so sorry.’ ” He laughs in delighted commiseration.

He will do Sherlock forever: “If we can keep the quality up. I can’t imagine that I will ever get tired of being Sherlock. I’d love to play him as an old man.”

Playing Billy Bulger in Black Mass: “Billy’s a Bostonian and that’s a really tricky accent to do. The whole milieu of that film was alien to me, which is what was attractive about it. It was a big challenge.”

Playing Hamlet: “You lean into him not because you want to take care of the poor guy or because he’s an oversharing drip. He pulls you in because he’s very entertaining and has a great sense of humor. He’s very witty. The best Hamlets I’ve seen have been, without a doubt, the funniest.”

The Sophie Hunter part: They’ve been in a relationship for the past few months, not quite as secretly as they might have hoped. The papers published photos of them sitting at the French Open and walking in Edinburgh’s Royal Botanic Garden—“Everyone now is a pap,” he says, shaking his head. Although his romance with Hunter will doubtless break some teenage hearts, most of his fans should be relieved that their idol, whom they adore for his intelligence and complexity, is involved with someone worthy of their fantasies of him. “I’m really, really happy,” he says of the relationship, “and I’m happy to say it.” He gives a smile so shy that I believe him absolutely.

The fame: “I sometimes worry about the currency surrounding the furor—the Internet, the teens. I’m careful that it doesn’t obscure other things that I care about. When somebody says that I’m perfect for a role because it will get an audience, that immediately makes me cold on it…The adoration thing is amazing but it won’t carry on forever, and I want my work to carry on forever”—he stops, laughing at such grandiosity. “Or at least for the next 40 years.”

[From Vogue]

The interview took place in London, and Benedict was day-drinking Bloody Marys throughout. Vogue also notes that he ate salt-and-pepper pork belly. God… that sounds like a really good meal! Pork belly (it’s like bacon only it’s somehow better!) and Bloody Marys? With Benedict? Damn. But the idea of him rolling cigarettes with Johnny Depp… hm… that’s odd. But at least he made a new friend, I guess. I hope he enjoyed Boston.

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Photos courtesy of Mario Testino/VOGUE and WENN.

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  1. Kiddo says:

    Aww, cheer up, kid. What is that? A ham and peanut butter sammich (not porkroll)?

  2. Reece says:

    I think the hat works here. It frames his face.

  3. Grace says:

    I’ve lost track with his interviews. *facepalm*

  4. Hawkeye says:

    I understand that actors have to hustle like this when they’re nominated for an award, but it will never cease to amaze me that the PR song and dance is just as (if not more) important as the role they’re being nominated for.

    • iskra says:

      Except he is still not nominated….. if he doesn’t get that nomination, I think the world will laugh at his face. And in a way I will be sorry cause he is a good actor, but in a way I will be amused. Let´s face it, if he was an actress, he would get stoned by now for all the PR and crap he´s been talking lately.

      • Charlie says:

        HW is behind him. He will get nominated. He might even win.
        And I agree, if he was a woman, he would get stoned. Did Anne Hathaway go so hard so early on? I remember her being over the top later, but this early?

      • Hawkeye says:

        I mean it more as a general observation. You’re right, he hasn’t been nominated for an Oscar yet, so this is just the precursor to what’s to come if he is.

      • Val says:

        It’s still early for stoning, but if it continues like this, I’m sure we’ll get there.

      • Just me says:

        I think it’s probably a case of too much too soon. He’s not really known outside of the internet so the PR campaign is working over time to get his name out there and its way over done at least as far as his fans are concerned. I think if he’d had more time getting established in his career before this role they wouldn’t have to work so hard. It’s just a bit desperate looking.

    • Sofia says:

      It’s not about how good you are, it’s about how good you are at playing this game. That’s why these awards mean nothing to me. They may all good actors to get the nomination, but even that usually means there’s a machine behind making it happen. That’s sad and totally takes away the credibility of something that should be the celebration of cinema.

      • Hawkeye says:

        Exactly Sofia. This is why many deserving films and performances (and other film work) are passed over in favour of the better machine behind it.

      • Just me says:

        True Sofia. It’s all about the networking and schmoozing. I see movies because I want to see them not because they’ve won awards. And usually I forget who won immediately after the awards show.

  5. Felice says:

    Sure, Jan……

  6. SpookySpooks says:

    I’m not that familiar with Benedict, I’ve only seen a few interviews, but where has he shown such amazing intelligence and complexity?

    • Grace says:

      It’s written in the stars…

    • Ag says:

      i’ve seen a couple of episodes of “sherlock,” and it’s a fun show. perhaps he as a person is being confused or merged with that character?

      • solanaceae (Nighty) says:

        He complains a lot about that confusion, he says he is a normal guy, not a genius… and that people confuse him with his characters…

      • Just me says:

        He can come across as intelligent. Unfortunately, he has a motor mouth problem and has a habit of putting his foot in his mouth. He wasn’t bad tonight on Charlie Rose. A bit boring, but then Charlie Rose tends to be a more serious news/politics program.

  7. Ingrid says:

    Wait, wait! Benedict <3 Mario only £8.50? It's a deal!

    • Lucrezia says:

      It’s even better than that! Looks more like the Euro symbol (€) to me, so it’d be £6.75. Total bargain.

      (I wonder if that’s an actual problem in European countries … bad handwriting leading to customer confusion re: pound/euro?)

  8. MissMary says:

    *SNORT* Um, there were no pics from Edinburgh. Come on, PR, get it together.

  9. **sighs** says:

    Vogue has been an epic fail for awhile now.

    • Ingrid says:

      Well, BC and Vogue are match made in heaven then. LOL

    • MissMary says:

      I’m sure Anna Wintour and HW wrote the questions personally, the rate things are going.

    • **sighs** says:

      I’m surprised he and the WILWIPT aren’t on the cover.

    • MtnRunner says:

      This was the mag that was so desperate for sales they put Kim Kardashian on the cover. The Fugs editorialized the hell out of that one.

      • Maggie says:

        And who is on the cover of Vogue? Oh Amy Adams who is doing her bit to promote her movie and and get her name out there for the awards season. No one is complaining about that, and nor am I.

        All actors promote their movies and if the movie gets good reviews and awards buzz they go the extra mile and campaign. That is part of their job. Movies are a business and the backers, who put up the millions to make the movie, expect to make a profit. How would all the thousands of people in the film business, from the make-up artists to the costume people and the drivers, feel if the “stars” of the show didn’t get out there and hustle? Their livelihood depends on the “stars” getting out there and promoting the film.

        Benedict is doing what he is obliged to do, it is part of his job. All the other actors in the “awards buzz” films are doing the same.

        We/you are in a little bubble here where Kaiser posts all the news on Benedict and you all click on it in large numbers so she posts more and more. But the general public will not be seeing all this coverage. The people who buy/read TIME will not read Vogue and most people are not online reading everything there is about Benedict Cumberbatch.

        Of course you are seeing him say the same things over and over, in slightly different ways, because he is being asked the same things and remember the general public are probably only seeing it once or twice. Sometimes these actors do up to 30/40 interviews in a day. Could you keep it fresh each time?

        Don’t complain about the excessive coverage on this site and then comment hundreds of times.

        Benedict at the moment is click heaven. Bloggers, magazines, newspapers know that if they put his name in a headline it will get clicks. It will die down, it always does.

        I want to add that the idea that this man would fake an engagement for PR is ludicrous. This is a man who has two loving parents in a long stable marriage, who has friends, still, from childhood, whose closest friends are happily married,. I have only heard incredibly positive things about him from colleagues, wonderful things about his generosity to fellow actors, his work ethic, his research and dare I say it, his integrity.

        He knows where he is going, is in it for the long term and of course he is doing all he can to promote this film but faking a relationship or an engagement doesn’t fit with the picture I have of him. IMHO of course.

        Just get some perspective and follow another actor who is campaigning to see what they are doing and make some comparisons. Some will be doing more, some less, but it depends on other commitments as well.

      • tsmiv says:

        @Maggie

        Most of us that think the engagement is fake, don’t think it was Benedict’s idea. My personal opinion is that he doesn’t have a whole lot of control of what’s going on in his life right now, and that’s what’s why he’s acting weird.

        BTW, Amy Adams is on the cover of the Vogue issue and she presented BC with his HFA on Friday night. Maybe a coincidence or maybe just another connection to Wintour/Weinstein PR machine.

      • Soothy says:

        Maggie, I almost admire your persistence but it’s also weirdly creepy and evangelical how you keep sermonising on here.
        You want to worship and not question everything he does? Fine, get on with it.
        Some of us would rather think for ourselves.

      • Maggie says:

        I’m sorry, I know Harvey has influence, but come on, what could he possibly have on Benedict to force him to fake a relationship or an engagement?

        Nope not buying into that at all.

        IMHO Benedict does have control of his life and knows exactly what he is doing and where he is going. He is not an idiot and I will say again, IMHO, he has integrity. I also cannot think of any reason why Harvey or anyone would want him to fake an engagement. It is just conspiracy nonsense.

      • tsmiv says:

        I never said he is an idiot. I don’t think he is.

      • Soothy says:

        Ugh. Stop saying ‘conspiracy’. Ridiculous and overstated.
        Secondly, there’s no black and white here. Nobody is saying they know what’s going on in his life. There’s degrees of thought and I’ve not seen anyone screaming that Weinstein has a gun to his head so stop building it up to that.
        Some people look beyond the narrative. They’re not necessarily right but neither are you.

      • Maggie says:

        @ Soothy

        That was my first comment on this post, so hardly evangelical, compared to your hundreds??

        @ tsmiv
        I know you didn’t call him stupid but the whole fake engagement conspiracy implies he is stupid

      • moodgirl says:

        @Maggie – In other words, go get your $10.00 for the day.

      • claire says:

        ^quite the opposite. This whole engagement thing if it’s his idea or he’s going along with it, shows how industrious he is. Nice try though

      • delorb says:

        @Maggie,

        That’s true. Everyone campaigns. Even those people who say that they don’t. Even the people who make small independent movies. They are out there schmoozing at all the right parties. First Benedict has to do the TV circuit to promote the movie, then he’ll have to campaign for any awards. And yes, it can be kill two birds with the same stone.

        Contrary to what some people think, booking is a two way street. Harvey can want him on those late-night shows, but if they decline, there is nothing he can do about it. From his appearances, all the hosts seemed to want him there and not the other way around.

        The magazines are more of a studio push, IMO. They usually coincide with a movie release and not so much an awards campaign, but again, two birds and all that. We shall see what happens IF he starts getting nominations next year.

  10. FingerBinger says:

    I like this Ponyboy Curtis look in the top picture.

  11. scout says:

    Shy smile eh? OK.

  12. SAKS says:

    So Alan Turing’s face “should be on the front of history textbooks and science books” but not in the Genius Issue of Time Magazine…?

    • Elysian says:

      Hush with the logic, you. 😉

      • SAKS says:

        I know it’s not his fault but is funny he said this just a day after that cover, especially after people was saying how Turing should had been the cover’s picture

      • Just me says:

        Though to be fair I don’t think he gets to make the decision for who’s on Time’s cover. But yes certainly funny that Time doesn’t see the irony of having an actor on the cover rather than the actual “Genius”.

  13. Zapp Brannigan says:

    I am now reading the name of his film as “The Irritation Game”, am going to drink until I can see straight again.

  14. PunkyMomma says:

    A disservice to wonderful woodland amphibious creatures? Bahaha!

  15. JH says:

    It’s official- I LOVE HIM!!!!

  16. Jaderu says:

    He really, really likes being an actor.
    He really, really loves Sophie.

    Really, really?

    • **sighs** says:

      Like, totally. Really.

    • Cornish Pixie says:

      Someone who over uses superlatives is being disingenuous.

      • Lauren says:

        Benedict always uses superlatives, so very very much, it’s quite annoying to watch his interviews.

    • moodgirl says:

      He is trying to convince himself at the same time he is trying to convince us. If he has to say “Really, really” then his ambiguity and discomfort are breaking through. He can’t hide his emotions to save his poor soul. If he wants to pull this off he needs to stop talking about it. It just gets worse every time he opens his mouth.

      Now I am trying to convince myself that I don’t want a Pepsi right now. Really, really.

  17. Nonnie says:

    Sigh..Again, he isn’t learning! ‘I’ am happy, ‘I’ am marrying ‘someone’, ‘my’ so very private wedding…
    Is anyone else involved in all those happy occassions, Benedict? Doesn’t look like it!

    • MtnRunner says:

      That’s probably the most impersonal expression of supreme happiness I have ever seen in print. I’d love to see how he actually said it on video. Did he look the interviewer in the eye? Did he smile? Did his eyes light up? Based on his NY delivery of similar lines, I’d doubt it.

  18. **sighs** says:

    What’s with the emphasis on teenagers? Actually, I would say most of his fans are decidedly not teenagers. Maybe this is why the pr has got it so wrong. They’ve completely misconstrued the demographic.

    • Grace says:

      I have a feeling that mainstream PR tends to stereotype fans in general, not just his. It’s almost as if all the firms are ran by people who have no understanding about fan behaviour, or never been a fan themselves. They just think we all scream and gush, incapable of coherent thoughts and would buy anything they are trying to sell. If not, they say something else and pretend it never happened.

    • Nonnie says:

      Did they forget he was a ‘thinking women’s crumpet?’ lol

    • Just me says:

      I was wondering that as well? Why the emphasis on teenagers? It seems kinda creepy when the guy’s 38. I believe it was the mag who said it, yes? I’m not wading through that again. But I think its doing his image a disservice to keep pairing his name up with young girls.

  19. kai says:

    I couldn’t finish the Vogue article, too ass-kissy. Blergh.

  20. fan of angie says:

    When is this toad going to go away? Eish!

    • Ingrid says:

      On February 23, 2015.

      • MtnRunner says:

        January 16, 2015 if we’re lucky and HV’s tactics don’t work.

      • MissMary says:

        Nah, he’d linger till early February because the split has to look natural. If he vanishes when the nom doesn’t come (if it doesn’t come), it’ll look petulant. so linger a bit then early February, he goes dark till late March with a few pap sightings in some London hotspots, solo, or shopping–also solo–and maybe a mention of some post prod work for Sherlock xmas special, then April will hit with the promos for Hamlet starting as he gets ready for rehearsal.

      • Felice says:

        “Not everything is coming up Sherlock. Benedict Cumberbatch loses nomination and fiancee.”

      • briargal says:

        Gosh just another reason I want the holiday season to hurry up and get over!!!!
        Come on summer!!! Then MAYBE he will go away!

        But you know that not all of this is his fault–blame his PR people and others who give him all this attention!

      • **sighs** says:

        Missmary- this is why everything has been solo- for the eventual breakup. It will look as is nothing is amiss!

      • Cate says:

        @MissMary I’m really starting to think you’re on the right track with your theory. On the other hand I can’t see him backtracking all this ‘I’m so HAPPY with this incredible woman biz’, but much stranger things have happened. I’ll better stock up on the popcorn…

      • MissMary says:

        Well, I’m sure it’d be handled in a very “private” way–he’s seen at some events solo, it’s mentioned he seems grumpy (er, grumpier?), and it’s announced “tastefully” that he’s solo again and refocusing on stagework and taking some down time to just do Hamlet and Sherlock, no other projects lined up for the rest of 2015. And they still care very much for one another but it just wasn’t meant to be and wasn’t fair to one another with their so busy schedules and what with so many octopus being endangered and all.

      • Ingrid says:

        @MissMary -Does the Times have a “Broken Engagements” section?

      • aly says:

        I can already see the titles, the narrative they’d sell…it’ll be fun to watch

        July

      • MissMary says:

        @Ingrid: *snort* No, but other mags/papers have a “seen around town” section and I’m sure there’ll be a “Spotted at *name of hotspot* in London: the newly-single Benedict Cumberbatch, on a break from rehearsals for Hamlet, with a mystery blonde on his arm!!!” (because Emily will be rehired). It won’t be a big announcement, just a subtle “seen around town” thing, like when he was spotted with Lydia Hearst. THEN his PR will say “yes, he and SH have parted amicably and remain friends.”

      • Lucifer says:

        LOL missmary nd ingrid.
        they do have n death section ( death from overexposure IMO)

      • Ingrid says:

        @MissMary -Too bad about the Times. It would have been perfect way for him to tell his friends. No, I mean the WORLD. No, no…wait a minute… to *normalize* the situation. Yes, that’s it.

        (and ITA)

      • joe spider says:

        @ Ingrid.

        They have been known to publish “the marriage of Mr…………. and Miss…………………will not now take place” announcements.

      • moodgirl says:

        @MissMary – How big of an a@@ will he be if he doesn’t marry her after all this Romeo and Juliet @$!÷ I think he has to marry her or he will be proven a fraud. He may divorce her by contract but he will probably marry even if he has to tie her up and drag her down the aisle. And he is already setting it up by saying he wants it to be PRIVATE. So none of the bs gets out.

        On the other hand I can see you version because he has already set up the reason why they wouldn’t be together a lot. O.k., I can see it now.

    • Queen B says:

      Can I just ask why you all don’t believe that Benedict’s relationship with Sophie is real?

  21. Felice says:

    Did you guys see that BC’s Hawking is going to be on tv? *coughs and hacks up lung*

    • Grace says:

      You’re most likely right. They can hit two birds with one stone on that one too.

      • **sighs** says:

        Maybe they can hit an octopus and an otter while they’re at it. I don’t mean physically. Metaphorically. Put them into a deep sleep until March.

  22. Lilacflowers says:

    Stop the madness!

  23. may23 says:

    Awwww! Whenever a man talks like that about his fiancee it makes him even sexier. Happy for both of them!

  24. ellesbelles says:

    Oh Ben, I still love you, but I think you may be downgraded a bit until Sherlock comes back. My attentions have been distracted over to your good friend Tom Hiddleston for now. Sorry not sorry.

    • TotallyBiased says:

      Yay! ;).
      Seriously, you probably won’t regret it. 2015 may go a bit over the top for Hidds, as he has so much hitting the theatres and that means major promo efforts, but at least he’ll go there with a smile!

      • ellesbelles says:

        @TB you know, just from the massive immersion of Tom in the past 24 hrs ( seriously I binged youtube last night) I get the feeling that he’s going to handle all of the promo stuff with aplomb.

        In Ben’s defense, yes he is used to promo work, he’s been an actor now long enough to know the pressure, I’m just not sure he was aware of how intense being HW’s show pony was going to be, on top of the engagement kerfluffle. *le sigh*
        Just give me more Sherlock and charming non engagement related soundbites. In the interim, I’ll get my fill of TH. I forced myself through the first THOR last night (its sooooo cheesy) just for a nice fix of TH as Loki, and my boss says the second one is more palatable.

      • Felice says:

        I can go the rest of my life never hearing about his love life ever again.

      • MtnRunner says:

        @EB, the 2nd one is better, but only because naughty Loki is in full bloom. I’m holding out for a Loki-centric film with Brotha Beefcake in a supporting role. That one I’d pay money to see.

      • Josa says:

        All people here seem to know how intense HW’s Oscar campaign normally is, and they aren’t even in the business. How can I believe that only BC didn’t know what he is getting himself into with HW when he’s been in the business for years? Although, I can’t really decide which is worse, is he really that naive and completely blindsided by HW and let himself becomes a puppet? Or is he a willing participant of all these shananigans because he’s desperate for his Oscar too, just like HW is. Either way, I’m not impressed.

        But I’m impressed with his recent photos on magazine, those sans hat one. He looks delicious.

      • blended says:

        yes ben is that naive. he actually said out loud in an interview that he wouldn’t have time to campaign the way harvey wants. you can bet that didn’t sit well with the boss, and probably led to this intense mass media onslaught.
        if you look at ben’s sched, he really is ridiculously busy, and he was probably being honest about not being able to commit the time needed. he learned first hand what a harvey campaign entails, hence the bad mood.

      • Josa says:

        Like I said, I don’t know which is worse. He’s almost 40 and in the business for 15 years and if he really is naive as you said, and just do whatever he was told by HW, then I have no word, and he has no backbone. Come to think of it, maybe I do prefer that he has thought for himself and decided that he really wants it and willing to do whatever it takes. At least that way he shows some sense and not just a puppet.

    • TotallyBiased says:

      What MtnRunner said + 1,000,000 😉

      And, ellesbelles, PLEASE tell me you’ve seen the Cookie Monster Delayed Gratification video during your YouTube bingeing?!!

      • ellesbelles says:

        @TB I did! I watched as many things as I could find. I think one of my favorites was his appearance on Chatty Man, which was ridiculously adorable, AND gave us snake hips. That in turn lead me to Martin Freeman on CM which was also adorable

  25. Cate says:

    “He gives a smile so shy that I believe him absolutely.”

    Oh thank heavens, I’ve seen the light now, Vogue believes him, so I do too!!! Yay!!!

    *sarcasm alert…

    • Grace says:

      Why does that line sound familiar? Oh wait, surely not from Harlequin romance?

    • Lu says:

      Did he hang his head and toe the ground awkwardly while he was shyly smiling? Because then I’D believe it, too, Anna!

    • MissMary says:

      Sounds like people who were neighbors of serial killers or something. “He had such a shy, sweet smile…we totally believed him!”

      Note to the nannies: NO I’m not saying he’s a serial killer nor am I equating his behavior with a serial killer or other deranged type of person. I am merely making an analogy based on statements in the common public awareness, such as “he was so quiet” “he was such a shy person” which people use to denote belief in someone’s goodness or honesty.

      (Did that cover my ass?)

      • Whovian719 says:

        Why would they even need to say that? So shy that I believe him? Why would you even consider not believing him? The fact that that was even said is beyond bizarre. It’s not said about any other celebrity romance.
        Did Harvey hire a new team who take a lot of prescription medication?

      • moodgirl says:

        This gets better/worse every day. I haven’t decided which.

      • MissMary says:

        HW’s regular campaign lead is not with him this year so this does smack of amateur hour–maybe a less experienced “lead” or HW himself not realizing how “subtle” works better than “hamfisted”.

  26. Etheldreda says:

    ”They’ve been in a relationship for the past few months, not quite as secretly as they might have hoped. The papers published photos of them sitting at the French Open and walking in Edinburgh’s Royal Botanic Garden—“Everyone now is a pap,” he says, shaking his head.”

    Sorry, what’s the problem here? If you’re in a public place, and you’re a public figure, of course you are going to have your photo taken. Are we supposed to believe that he didn’t think anyone would take his picture when sitting in the posh seats at the French Open?

    Please!

    • Lu says:

      There wasn’t any photo from the Botanic Garden. I posted a bit more about that down below. He has his panties in a twist over something he only assumed happened—or maybe something he wants us to believe happened.

      Oh, and he objects to having been photographed at the FO while he was there in a practically front-row open box on a publicity appearance for Lacoste? Poor boy! We should all avert our eyes so as to shield his delicate love affair.

      n.b.: If anyone has seen a picture, let us know where it was, because I really believe there was no photo.

      • MissMary says:

        Absolutely no photos to date from the B.G. but I’m sure some will pop up now–with grainy, Bigfoot photo-like quality. Two blurry figures that may or may not be them, rushing past some plants, heads down, looking “papped”. Backdated, I’m sure. And it’ll be interesting to read the tweets from the only two people who noticed them at the garden, one passer by and the lady who worked the ticket desk, and see them say “um, there were no paps there…”

        And the FO pics could NOT have been better positioned for pics. Seriously. I do think celebs deserve privacy in their downtime but if you’re on a PR appearance, sitting down front in open box seats… people are going to notice you. And talk.

      • Lu says:

        I know! I saw some footage of the FO that was concentrating on the players, not the spectators, and you could still see them easily. He has a just a tiny touch of megalomania these days.

      • Etheldreda says:

        Yeah, the way he makes it sound, you would think he and Sophie were being chased by paps when going down the corner shop to buy the paper, or that they had long lens reaching into his back garden. But posh seats at a very high profile sports event is very much public, and celebs fully expect to be ‘papped’ there. And when the photos were released, there was little more than a ‘meh’, even on this site. Nobody really cared about his snooty looking lady – maybe not even BC himself.

        I honestly think he’s begun to believe his own hype, and thinks no actor ever had a girlfriend or got engaged before.

      • Lu says:

        I’ve said this before, but when those pictures were released this summer amid the Secret Girlfriend talk, I never even considered that it could be her. I thought he was there by himself and, when I did notice her, I assumed she was a stranger sharing the box with him.

      • Lucifer says:

        ditto lu.. even KB i suspected dating but SH nada.

      • MissMary says:

        If you look at the pap/sneak pics from Hay, they have no idea they’re being photographed, they’re walking down what seems to be a relatively uncrowded path and they are still not touching, not looking at one another, she is even a few feet behind him. Same with the sneak pics from Richard III–she looks like she wandered into the shot by accident for all the interest he’s showing.

        Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now I’ve just jinxed it. Brace yourself for a fake photo op in 3…2… (I bet it’s the Apple store. Someone want to bet me? The Apple store or Waterstones).

      • MtrRunner says:

        Miss Mary, you should be on the payroll to help Harv & Karon avoid these rookie mistakes on the front end…

      • MissMary says:

        LOL, MtrRunner! I’d get sick of the b.s. by first day’s end and either get fired or quit.

      • claire says:

        You know I’ve been thinking about this too and I think I would enjoy it. Lots of thrills. Karon if you are reading and need an intern I’m free. And I’d be really good too.

      • OhHey says:

        Anyone have a link to the RIII pics of Sophie on set? Haven’t seen those, have seen the ones from Hay and I thought it couldn’t have been more casual and uninteresting, didn’t even look like they were together.

      • Lucifer says:

        thr are no such pics as we have heard of @ohhey

      • Claire says:

        ^thanks for clarifying that, was wondering myself.

      • MissMary says:

        My google-fu may be weak but I just checked around and found no such pictures of her on set. Was it a rumor or did someone legit post them? Because far as I’ve heard, she’s never been in the area while he’s there filming.

        Maybe you’re thinking of the sneaky pics someone took of her at MF’s “Richard III”? She was there with BC *and* Andrew Scott and several other people in a group (not just me thinking that–several people who attended verified it and that she also didn’t hang out in the bar area afterwards with the group)

    • moodgirl says:

      If he is supposed to be so damn private and talks about his engagement like his teeth are being pulled, why on earth is he talking about it in VOGUE? Come on, they are moving beyond the ridiculous. Do they think everyone is too stupid to see through this? Are they going to use ever resource in media to run this sham? It is all too much.

      I don’t care if he marries her or not, the whole mess is hogwash. If he has to keep pronouncing his happiness to the public then there is a reason. Why don’t they just drop it. If you are happy then be happy and stfu.

      • Renee says:

        @moodgirl, Yep, all of this. Why does he feel the need to A) Keep talking and B) remind everyone how happy, Really, REALLY happy he is?? It’s truly bizarre.

      • moodgirl says:

        @Renee

        I can’t believe a 40 year old man uses the words “really, really.”
        He sounds like my nephew asking for ice cream when he was four. I always imagined he would be a lot more mature in his relationships but he comes through as really awkward and childish. I wonder if women that he encounters see the same. I am very surprised that he can’t act his way out of a paper bag when in comes to this situation considering that he has extensive experience with relationships in the past.

        Also, didn’t we figure out the timeline of this article in an earlier thread? It sounds as if they figured when it would hit the stands to coincide with the engagement story. Anna is really, really doing HW a favor. REALLY.

  27. HoustonGrl says:

    It was the same for me and my fiancé when we got engaged. People ask you a lot about it but you’re so happy you kind of want to gush about your true love (I know, pass the bucket). Can’t fault our little otter here.

    • lindy79 says:

      I agree. I was the same, most newly engaged couples are. Hes not gushing though. Hes been 90% pissy anytime anyone asked him, visibly tensed up and changed the subject. They also looked like they had guns behind their backs on the red carpet. The video was not a happy newly engaged couple and no amount of Vogue journos will convince me otherwise.
      Most couples use plurals too, hes still on the I/We/Me train and it sounds awful.

      • Andrea says:

        I never gushed over my engagement, which is why I never wear the ring now and remain perpetually dating him. It just doesn’t feel right to take the next step. Maybe that is him? Who knows.

      • Lindy79 says:

        That’s why I said “most”, everyone is different and god knows marriage certainly isn’t the be all and end all. They got engaged after 5 months and he put an ad in the Times, so I dunno….It seems like something people who can’t wait to get hitched do.

      • HoustonGrl says:

        Guns behind their back! Lmao! I didn’t know it was that bad, but they do look a little frozen.

    • Soothy says:

      It’s not gushing though. It feels very forced and unnatural. And the average nonfamous person’s experience is very different. He’s not just talking to his friends and he knows this. He’s said for the last couple of years how private he is and he clearly doesn’t like the intrusion or want to feed the press, so it’s highly surprising he’s making these remarks to journalists.

  28. Andrea says:

    I’m really really over this now. I really liked him as an actor and found him very attractive. I am not upset he is engaged but what I am upset about is I feel like he is trying to sell it to me, like he doesn’t believe it himself. It feels so disingenuine and he is coming off a bit jerky in interviews. I am back to my fassbender crush, at least he is a jerk, but I know what I am getting.

    • viola says:

      In what sense fass is a jerk? The other day I read some fans’ accounts of their encounters with him ,he’s adorable.

      • Lucifer says:

        i don;t get it either. I only see some ppl mentioning it here. Why is he a jerk. WOuld someone care to explain? what r we missing?

  29. lindy79 says:

    OK I’ll admit. He looks good. Even with his little pork pie hat
    Still sounds like an idiot.

  30. enastein says:

    Batchaway please…

  31. joe spider says:

    Sorry but if Ben gets an Oscar for TIG I really will give up on them.

  32. Marcy says:

    “He will do Sherlock forever: “If we can keep the quality up. I can’t imagine that I will ever get tired of being Sherlock. I’d love to play him as an old man.”

    The only thing I care about…

  33. Lu says:

    There were no photos published of them in the Botanic Gardens. There was only a tweet from some passer-by about seeing Benedict Cumberbatch there briefly and that he was with some woman. Why did Anna Wintour make that up? Or did BC say it, and she believed it? Whatever the case, it irks me that that false “factoid” is now going to be on record.

    • Lindy79 says:

      I’d say his people told them, they are monitoring the HELL out of social media. He’s aware of everything.

      • Lu says:

        I’m not sure I’m understanding you. You meant you think that his people told Vogue about the (nonexistent) photograph?

      • moodgirl says:

        Yes. They are selling this engagement story wherever they can. And you can tell that they are deliberately including stories and cues to make everything sound reasonable, keep the facts straight and maintain the narrative.

    • Lucifer says:

      now we might get some doctored pictures of BG this is all bollocks..

    • MissMary says:

      Seynorita, or one of the sockpuppets that hounded people on twitter about “was he with anyone?” (and would ONLY send pics of SH, never any other women, to ask “is this her? was this the one?” I kept wanting someone to send total random pics like one of Loo Brealey or Lucy Lawless or something to see if they got the same response), posted something from one of the workers at the garden who said BC’d stopped to ask how long his ticket was good for, and that turned into “omg how romantic! they’re going back to make out with tongues!” type posts… *eye roll* I’m on the train with my tinfoil hat firmly affixed, agreeing with whomever it was that said the gardens were likely supposed to be a pap opportunity but due to the weather or other reasons, the photogs never showed/didn’t get the shot. B/c it was so effing weird. He went up–SOLO–did 15 minutes in the garden, came back the next day (mixed reports on solo or not solo)…

      • Lu says:

        That is even freakier than I remember it having been. Seriously, I thought it was just an accidental sighting, but it really does sound like a staged photo op that turned out to be a dud.

      • **sighs** says:

        Yep. This was my tinfoil hat theory and I’m sticking to it. It was all very strange, and definitely not covered enough to be mentioned in Vogue.

    • Claire says:

      doesn’t irk me. it just goes to show how constructed this entire thing is. the more the better i say

    • Ingrid says:

      The whole Botanic Gardens story is weird but that might easily be just because it came from second hand account. There are no paps in Edinburgh, so why stage it there? IDK

      The restaurant thing is even weirder though, because it was clearly a set up. Quaglino’s is known pap spot, but not as much as Chiltern or Ivy. They were photographed arriving, not leaving, so paps knew they would come. And the fact that there was no photos of SH actually walking in, just sitting in the car? Did she even go in? *pure weirdness*

      BTW, Wintour isn’t only the editor-in-chief of Vogue, she’s the artistic director of the whole Conde Nast (since 2013). BC needs to be friends with her.

  34. 'P'enny says:

    He runs through Hempstead Heath! Hah! ‘Tom tom wait for me….’ Spultters on a fag. Didn’t he say in other interview he doesn’t really excersise?

    • Lucifer says:

      now its for the america everything is healthy, exercise, vegan(vegeterian/pork belly), meditation, french learning. Do they talk in french in between themselves(the alleged couple)?

      • Lu says:

        Bien sûr! She is practically French, after all, and is often mistaken for a French movie star. It’s like her native language, so he must work to keep up with her. She has already taught him the words poulpe, calmar, loutre, and Cumber-bébé.

      • Cate says:

        Hahahahahahaha! OMG. Cumber-bébé!

      • moodgirl says:

        How do you say “Get the hell away from me” in French. She sure can say it with her facial expressions and body language.

      • claire says:

        Hahahaha that english girl isn’t french. She’s sooner a Martian than french.

    • Lu says:

      Aw, ‘P’enny, that was another interview, on a different day. You’re really holding his feet to the fire aren’t you? Are you a crazy, disappointed fan who wanted to marry him yourself? 😉

      • Lucifer says:

        @lu areu on the conspiracy train now with us?

      • Lu says:

        @Lucifer, not sure what you mean–I’ve been on it since day one. I try to keep a measured view and make allowances for what may be different personalities and relationship styles, but I was shocked by the engagement announcement and have always suspected something calculated in either the timing or the relationship itself.

      • Lucifer says:

        okay my bad i thought u’re on the noble delicate beauty’s team LOL
        sry though

      • Lu says:

        No apology necessary! Some of the things I’ve said have been misinterpreted because I don’t like to go overboard with claims or theories.

  35. Madly says:

    *cough* yeah, you sure seem happy lately. Heaven help us if you have a bad day. Lol this train wreck is still going?

  36. Kazlock 1307 says:

    Hi my lovelies.
    Has the otter king put his foot firmly in his gob yet again? He really, really loves her…Seriously?
    He really,really needs to remember his lines better.
    Has the bride to be been seen since Monday night?

  37. Claire says:

    Am I reading this right that he gave an interview with Vogue back in October talking about his engagement before he proposed in early November?

    • moodgirl says:

      Yes.

    • tsmiv says:

      No he didn’t say anything about engagement. The Vogue articles just says that he and SH have been in a relationship for a few months, which technically could mean anything. That’s the reason why I hate the word `relationship’ to describe romance/dating, it’s so vague. Most of us are in a variety of relationships and most of them are not romantic. I know that’s not what you asked, I just wanted to vent a little.

    • Kazlock 1307 says:

      Wonder if Anna Wintour proposed for him?Or was that HW’s job?

    • blended says:

      but they don’t refer to an engagement (or am i missing that detail). the plan was always to unveil her as his award-season lady, so he was open in this interview about being in a relationship with her. i think HW ordered the engagement at the last minute.

      • Ingrid says:

        I agree, the enGAGment was a last minute change. Most likely because LFF stunt didn’t work. They would have prepped this better if they had time.

      • Claire says:

        i really wouldn’t be so sure this is HW pulling strings. maybe hugely influential, but for all we know this is BC being a ruthless mofo

  38. Encumbered says:

    This is the reason for Cumberwax. He is going to be hauled out and wheeled down the aisle on the special day. SH will be oblivious as he has been crafted anatomically-correct and to scale with an up and down “switch.”

    • Lu says:

      LOL.
      um, is there a waiting list for the anatomically correct Cumberwax? Asking for a friend.
      As much as my “friend” is utterly put off by his personality and actions these days, “she” still so would.

    • Encumbered says:

      I believe I read that a personal Cumberwax can be ordered by contacting the Weinstein Company. HW owns the rights, of course.

  39. Soothy says:

    AGAIN .. Why does every single interview feel the need to big her up??
    “most of his fans should be relieved that their idol, whom they adore for his intelligence and complexity, is involved with someone worthy of their fantasies of him.”
    Wtaf??? Why do vogue give a shit about who she is and how would they know how ‘worthy’ of him she is. What bullcrap.p

    Oh and I’ve just noticed the blackboard behind him.. “Benedict heart Mario”
    FFS *flips table*

    • Grace says:

      I am going out on a limb since I can’t know for sure, but I am thinking maybe amongst certain circles people like to talk about those points that look good on paper because they look good on paper? Like some people you meet at parties love to talk about themselves even though half of things they say are not remotely true. I think they are going for certain stereotypes. Also judging from the quote, they are trying to big him up too. The language is vomit inducing. ‘Intelligence and complexity’ are not the words I’d use to describe BC. It’s just that he actually has a success career to back the claims so it’s not that far of a stretch. They could have said ‘he often played intelligent and complex characters on screen’ but then humble’s not what they were going for.

    • Lu says:

      Seriously, Soothy, good point. It’s so omnipresent that I don’t even notice it anymore, but you’re absolutely right: Why do these articles always talk about Sophie, how great she is, and how pleased his fans should be about it? The whole thing is just crazy.

    • tsmiv says:

      Anna Wintour loves BC. He’s her darling right now and because SH meets with Anna’s approval! SH runs in NY’s society crowd and she’s friends with the girlfriend of HW’s brother in law. Wintour, Weinstein, and Chapman are running BC’s life right now and have been for a few months already. It’s downright gross when you think about it.

      • Soothy says:

        Please, please…whatever you say about Cumbers, please don’t besmirch him with an anna wintour friendship. That is one thing I could just never forgive him for.
        Anyway, what does helmet hair witchbot know about acting? She tits around with overpriced clothes in a pretentious magazine. She should stick to that.

      • Winnie says:

        Oooo please tell us more?! I just read a HW interview where he said his wife, (marchesa designer) thinks BC is the hottest thing in the world. BLEURGH! Is he going to cure cancer next?!

        But what’s this about brothers in law etc? I’m so curious lol.

        (Sad because I can’t stand BC and never could)

      • moodgirl says:

        SH’s bff is the girlfriend of the CEO of Marchesa, who is also the brother of the creator of the company, who in turn is married to HW, making the CEO the brother-in-law of HW. Got it? 😣

      • MissMary says:

        Ready for another tinfoil hat certified theory on the conspiracy train? LOL see, I drink bad wine, I think of these things… People are wondering why, if SH is tied to HW so many times over, why she wasn’t wearing Marchesa… My theory? Didn’t have time to get something together for her. It’s not like she can bop into H&M and grab it off the rack and wear it to the red carpet (though Sharon Stone looked AWESOME in off the rack Gap turtleneck that year at the Oscars so… ymmv). The enGAGment happened unexpectedly due to PR pressure or whatever (*insert Anchorman gif here–“Well, that escalated quickly.”*) And the run over to NYC was equally last minute–no time to get her a red carpet look together via Marchesa. If they make it as far as the Oscars, I’d be willing to bet a shiny new nickle on “who” she’ll be wearing. There’s time to prepare for that right now.

    • blended says:

      i think that was part of the deal. SH would only be a part of the farce if she could get some recognition for her ‘work’ out if it. they already polished up her CV basically the day of the engagement. so when the do break up, she will have something to show for it.

  40. EleanorRigby says:

    He likes to drink through interviews doesn’t he?

  41. Koodles83 says:

    What was up with the “where’s Waldo” in Edinburgh? Was it a pr stunt that didn’t go well? Since we didn’t get a picture of them at the garden. I thought it was weird at the time that a magazine(it was a magazine, right?)would basically encourage stalking to that degree.

    • MissMary says:

      A popular theory is that it was an intended pap shot (a TON of “pap pics” are actually called in by celebs or done intentionally by celebs–not all, but quite a huge chunk of them) that didn’t manifest either because of weather or missed appointment or something.

    • claire says:

      In hindsight that was odd wasn’t it? How did they know before the whole world he’d be there? And all the fangirls chastising them for it…all of this is rich and ironic, with his craziest fans at the end of the day likely hounding his own pr people for their stunts

      • MissMary says:

        Edinburgh isn’t exactly a backwater. Celebs have been there before many times and haven’t been subjected to that weirdness. The sudden “OMG a famous person is coming! QUick! Find him!” level of wtfery smacked of staged or paid-for. Hell, BC went to some places to film August: Osage County and not a single paper or tab pulled that kind of shit and you’d think small towns that don’t get a lot of famous people through to draw attention to their town would be more excited than a huge city like Edinburgh. Hell, even Meryl didn’t get that sort of craziness during filming. But the guy takes an unannounced trip to Edinburgh and all Hell breaks loose in the local tab about finding him and taking a pap pic? And the B.G. weirdness? BRB, I need to add some flowers to my tinfoil hat and get my conspiracy train ticket punched.

      • claire says:

        Also, why Edinburgh? To fit the I want to go away on weekends narrative? It just seems a bit random.

      • Lu says:

        @claire, Maybe because her mother lives there and they wanted to get people thinking that they were there to introduce BC to her family? I don’t know; just a guess in the context of the “failed paparazzi moment” theory. I think there was some professional reason revealed why he was there, wasn’t there? But the Sophie involvement/Botanic Gardens visit may have just been because they saw a target of opportunity with those circumstances.

      • MissMary says:

        There was some supposition he was there for a BFI screening but he never attended, even though he was there for at least the weekend of the Glasgow one. And he/his PR said the trip to Edinburgh wasn’t for an engagement (so did Helen Kite but that’s…odd in and of itself, because it basically came off as denying they were a couple).

      • Claire says:

        yeah i think the professional theory was debunked. who knows. the more i think about it the more it weirds me out.

  42. TotallyBiased says:

    Okay, now go find his NPR interview broadcast tonight (Friday)
    I’m getting on the conspiracy train that says PR minions are scouring the internet and changing up his talking points to reflect what they find! Real time zeitgeist / politik!
    Seriously.
    He talks about how being famous really is good and fun, except for the occasional days when perhaps you aren’t quite up to it (or something like that)
    In other words, taking a page from THiddy’s book because it plays better–especially for his NPR demographic.
    http://www.npr.org/2014/11/21/365253339/benedict-cumberbatch-code-breaker-alan-turing-was-a-puzzle-himself

  43. Claire says:

    on a completely unrelated note, who is the poster whose icon is a super hot drawing of Ben? I need to see that to cleanse my palate of this nonsense. and how do i get an icon???

  44. viola says:

    He’s becoming a bit overexposed.. I don’t think that his engagement is a pr move or other,and personally I don’t doubt his intentions toward her ,but the timing ( impeccable for his campaign) and the over-saturation of interviews aren’t doing a great service,in terms of sincerity, to everything he’s saying about his personal life.

    • Lu says:

      Exactly. He should never have played the “look at me/don’t look at me” game with his engagement. It turned into a ridiculous mess, though apparently it isn’t looking that way to most of the other people out there.

  45. claire says:

    Looking at the title of this post, if there’s one thing this whole mess has taught us it’s this man should never do whose line is it anyway?

    Unless he’s sounding off deliberately in passive aggression, in which case props to him. (I’m holding out for this to be true)

  46. Simonsays says:

    According to this information:
    http://chuckynono.tumblr.com/post/103225900620/behind-the-scenes-update
    This girl can be his real secret girlfriend:
    http://instagram.com/delectionpie/?modal=true
    What do you think, ladies?

    • Lucifer says:

      bollocks

    • Grace says:

      I hope for both his sake and hers this isn’t true. If it is, he really is dumper than I thought. How can any woman trust a man who’s got engaged to someone else for publicity’s sake while they are involved? Besides that, the information seems fictional at best. I rather not speculate.

    • Ingrid says:

      There’s literally no proof whatsoever.

      I could as easily start spreading rumors that I’m dating BC. C’mon people!

      Stop this.

    • Soothy says:

      Please tell me nobody is seriously considering this as the truth. I mean… really?

      • Simonsays says:

        Why not? This explains his anger and strange behavior during TIG promo in US. This version is as plausible as PR-version. So, nobody knows where the truth is.

      • Soothy says:

        There is nothing remotely plausible about it. Honestly, when that laughable trollish post about him having a secret hotel gf that we should all ask Hiddles for variation on popped up, I cried with laughter, but i noticed people actually considering it as an option. Now it’s spawned this nonsense, which seems to literally be a random woman plucked from nowhere and people are starting to now consider it as viable? Woah.
        These last two weeks have taught me that some people will really just accept anything they’re told, in one way or another.

      • GeeMoney says:

        Please, people. If y’all can believe that Sophie has a FWB on the side, why can’t you believe it about Benedict? Don’t hold him to some type of “saintly” behavior just because you are a fan of his.

        I know I don’t. The man is an emotional mess, and it shows.

        My conspiracy theory: he’s looking for something/someone that he’s having trouble finding. I believed his sister when she said that he’s looking for a wife that’s not in the business who can support his career, travel with him and/or stay at home when necessary. I think he thought he found that in Sophie… but some reason or another, she’s not playing along (hence the locking herself away in his home, probably cheating on him and spending his money… just a thought). And he’s frustrated.

        If PR is reading this… kick her to the curb, Ben (and that other girl, while you are at it). The one is out there. You just have to be patient. And not marry the wrong woman b/c you are afraid that you’ll never meet her. You will, one day.

      • Soothy says:

        @geemoney

        I don’t think/know sophie has a ‘fwb’ as I know nothing about her personal relationships or attitudes towards them. I’ve never professed to having any opinions either way on that side of things.
        I also think you’re making a hell of a lot of assumptions on BC too. You don’t know him.
        Things seem decidedly odd around this whole engagement but that’s as much as I can say for certain. To claim to ‘know’ anymore than that for anyone here, seems weird to me. It’s all speculation.
        But the main point is how can you immediately consider this random woman as his possible ‘secret girlfriend’ without any proof whatsoever? Seemingly she’s been plucked out of nowhere with no evidence.

      • alice says:

        @geemoney Is SH really in his home? Has anyone ever seen her coming or going? I thought the London paps were supposed to be some of the best. Wouldn’t they have a shot by now?

      • Lu says:

        @GeeMoney, I don’t understand this advice. The truth is that some people never find “the one,” and you can’t predict that splitting up with SH (assuming she doesn’t make him deliriously happy) would allow BC to find someone better. I don’t get that.

      • solanaceae (Nighty) says:

        I actually Think BC is dating JA and that the engagement with SH and the Bora Bora pics of TH and JA are just to deflect us from the truth…..

        lol
        *just kidding*

      • GeeMoney says:

        I don’t put anything past anyone. Most celebrities run around with side pieces. And that’s a fact.

        I’d like to think that someone who has been moaning about finding “the right person” for most of their adult life will probably end up finding that person some day. If you believe the one is out there, more than likely you’ll end up finding them one day. Have faith, people.

        And this is a gossip blog… I can speculate and make assumptions all I want. So get off my back.

        PS -I don’t know if she lives with him or not. I just “assumed” since they were engaged that they probably do. Would make sense, right?

      • Cate says:

        Of course anything is possible in theory, but believing someone’s Tumblr post or Instagram hint is a bad idea. Just this week I read about this girl who fooled her online friends in believing she had a relationship with a famous musician they were all fans of. And that her kid was his. Turned out she’d been lying her behind off. It’s called catfishing, don’t fall for it. Like some have said already, everyone could go around and weave a tangled web with pics, little stories and social media accounts and have people believe they were BC’s secret wife. With 3 kids. I’ve seen my share of girls/women who were a bit too obsessed w. him online over the years. Ranging from movie extra’s to ex-models. So I don’t believe much, the crazy can be too strong.

      • TotallyBiased says:

        I think solanaceae may be on to something there…. 😀

      • Grace says:

        @solanaceae @totallybaised No, no, no, that’s TH’s cover piece for Lilac’s protection…

      • OhHey says:

        Maybe I’m slow/oldfashioned/burdened with too much baggage, but isn’t it awfully soon for them to have moved in together? I can’t believe no one has figured out where she lives and has staked her out yet to monitor their movements (kidding, that would suck). Maybe younguns do that these days, I am not traveling through this life lightly, to move in with someone I was not married to after a couple of months would be inconceivable.

    • Bren says:

      I’ve lurked but have stayed out of the gf/engagement discussions. I’m bored today so I took a look through this woman’s Instagram, and Google + accounts. Her Twitter is private. There are some things on both that make me think there might be something to this. Or, I could be completely off…who knows? It does look like she could be the woman in the black tube top that he was escorting (rushing) out of the theater that one evening though.

    • Lu says:

      Does anyone else remember a poster either here, on EB, or on Town Bicycle in which someone said that he had a much younger girlfriend earlier this year but Wanda advised him to break it off and find a woman his own age? I’m not saying the story is or isn’t true (I don’t know what to think), but I do wonder what happened with that. Was there any evidence for it?

      • Simonsays says:

        So, who IS really running the whole PR campaign? Mother Wanda or Harvey the AllMighty? 🙂

      • MissMary says:

        He’s “known” for dating around so I wouldn’t be shocked that he had a younger FWB or “date” situation going on. He seems to prefer younger women.

      • Soothy says:

        Any rumour that appears on Tumblr, I think is pretty safe to discount immediately. 😉

      • GeeMoney says:

        He’s never publicly dated a younger woman… I think sleeping with them and dating them might not be mutually exclusive for him. Just a guess.

      • MissMary says:

        @GeeMoney: Good point–he seems to like younger women (not creepy younger) but the only ones I can think of have been FWBs (as far as we know).

      • Soothy says:

        What younger women? The only women that weren’t tabloid rumour were anna and olivia.

      • MissMary says:

        No he openly said (via PR) that he and Lydia Hearst were an item but not “serious”, and despite a lack of official statement, it was obvious he’d dated KE well before Ibiza (numerous witness saw the break up at a party where they argued, he left, she followed, she returned alone. Then no more sightings together until Ibiza about 2 years later–a few papers even wrote up the incident at the party, held at a restaurant opening in London).

      • Soothy says:

        Nope. It’s definitely not obvious he dated KE. He happened to be at the same party and the papers conveniently added the part about him leaving early and she ‘followed’. Sounded like total BS to me. It’s wasn’t a ‘few’ papers that said it. It was one, that is in no way proof of ‘dating’. And it certainly wasn’t a ‘break up’, she’d only met him at some press party a little while before, as she put a pic on her FB. And there were constant pics during this time of her with her live in BF on her FB and instagram, and there was all the way through the ibiza crap too. She didn’t even hide the fact very well she was with someone else. And she was wearing an engagement ring in pics from as at least early 2013.
        As for that ‘statement’ from his PR re: Lydia Hearst, It always seemed odd to me. If they aware that he was having a fling, why would his people announce that to the press with a weird statement like that?

      • claire says:

        Missmary, all that talk about Elizarova. Was she married/engaged back in 2011 when they’d dated?

      • MissMary says:

        Well, we’re just going to have to have differing opinions, Soothy. I know the Fail ran it and didn’t the Guardian have something? Maybe I’m wrong and it was only the Fail. She was also seen out with him at a few parties and venues, according to gossip at the time. Maybe they really were just “old friends” but… I doubt it. Again, my opinion and yours differ, and that’s fine. I’m not going to flail about it.

        The statement re Lydia Hearst was made because no one knew he and Anna James had split and he was seen at a few H’wood parties with Hearst so rumors began that he was screwing around on Anna James. His PR released a statement announcing they’d split some time before and it was amicable. Personally, because I’m snarky and catty, I wondered if Anna was aware they’d split before then but I really do think, in my snarky heart of hearts, they had split before he went for Lydia.

        @CLaire: Allegedly. But it doesn’t mean someone is faithful (as has been discussed ad nauseum here lol).

      • Lucifer says:

        The fail ran anything on him back on those days. it was reported that he and KE were seen together in a party where ppl started taking pics of them together . He felt irritated and left. Thn the ibiza pics popped up aftr 6 months or so. I think we r really grasping at straws here. Every man dates around. Lets cut him some slack. Moreover i dnt think his mum ll say anything about dating a younger one(she wants many grandkids too *wink*), the younger the better. But emotionally/intelligence wise immature would be another scene. Look at octopussy do u think ur mum approves of this wholeheartedly. The have not even made a statement(oops i said it). To add spices to the suspicion he is almost 40, most women of his age are married. so the chances of him ending up with a 10+ years younger woman are pretty high. As long as they get along well and she has a job(any JOB) and a life of her own it would be fine..

      • Soothy says:

        It’s not opinion, missmary, it’s fact. The guardian didn’t have anything at all. It was just mail (from a particular journo who’s pally with her boyfriend) and nope there were no other sightings of them at parties and venues at all.
        At the very most, they were just friends but I doubt they were even that. Like I said, her fiancée/bf were v much together the from 2012 through to now. There’s pics of them together at their shared home in London and his parents house, all over her personal FB and instagram.

      • Soothy says:

        Nope, it was a whole year until the shady ibiza pics appeared. Of course he’s dated around, nobody is denying that, but that doesn’t mean anyone should believe without question some convenient tabloid stories about random women who are quite clearly coupled up at the time.

      • OhHey says:

        Lydia Hearst was probably one of those famous “trysts” he mentioned.

      • moodgirl says:

        Notice he always has some odd looking females. No supermodels.

      • lola says:

        I don’t think there was anything between KE and BC. Look at the pictures of him kissing her on the cheek – he almost couldn’t stand further away (at least with his pelvic region:-)).

      • moodgirl says:

        I thought BC and KE made like dirty bunnies in Ibiza when he performed a marriage ceremony for two friends.

  47. GeeMoney says:

    @simonsays
    Like I said on another thread… he wouldn’t be the first celebrity to hide a gf/FWB… and he won’t be the last.

    And if this is true… she’s an idiot and truly not the one either.

    • Lucifer says:

      atleast she is pretty LOL

    • MissMary says:

      I’d be happy to bet he has/had a long term FWB who maybe thought or was told she’d be something “More” after he was done with some project or another (i.e. “she was strung along”)… Might explain the “fight” at the hotel, if it was a thing (which I doubt it was).

      • solanaceae (Nighty) says:

        What fight? What hotel? When? Who? Why?

      • MissMary says:

        Oh, that rumor someone posted on the octoblog–it really smells like b.s. Claimed he had a LTR in Derbyshire and didn’t tell her about the fake engagement though she was staying in his hotel for filming, they had a screaming row… It’s been pretty much busted as bs but it’s an interesting rumor and may have a grain of truth in terms of “not telling people about the enGAGment”.

      • Simonsays says:

        Yes, but if can follow the link above you’ll see the rumor’s arose of such circumstantiality that … it just has so many details now.

  48. lightbulb596 says:

    Hi new time poster here, I’ve been following this debacle for weeks and would like to complement you on your sanity, eruditeness, humour and refusal to eat BS. I applaud you!
    I have resisted commenting so far as you all seem to have this uncanny knack of having the same thoughts as me every time I have them!

    However, just had a thought re: Derbyshire GF rumours. I don’t think for one second this rumour is actually true, but the way it’s being drip fed sounds a bit fishy. I think I may be onto something which I have written below, but I don’t think I am quite right as yet and wondered what you thought.

    I am fully aware it may just be pure BS/trolling from someone wanting to create problems (I am no expert!) but it keeps bugging me. It sounds too factual in one way (ie this actress does know the people at Chatsworth and she probably did show him round…wait for the photos?!) but way too full of BS in another way, (ie ‘he has been talking about her for years’, he stays at her house with the kids etc – how on earth would you know this if you were just some minion on the Hollow Crown?)

    I also do not believe for one second that BC would do this, the concept that he has had some secret GF for years that no-one knows about and yet they are openly wandering around the set of Hollow Crown not hiding their relationship is utterly ludicrous.

    After looking at her Pinterest board via the link above, she seems like some local actress who loves bigging up every meeting she has ever had with any actor she has ever met. According to her, they are all such amazing, supportive, great, lovely friends who have all been there for her etc etc. So I can completely imagine her getting on set in Derbyshire and bigging up to anyone who’ll listen her links (if any) to BC, which may account for rumours from alleged HC crew.

    BUT… IMHO there is something about the way that this is being ‘leaked’ slowly and intentionally that smells wrong. It’s made to sound casual, yet it’s carefully constructed to generate interest and gossip. It smacks of exactly the same way the whole Senyorita malarkey began. The ChokyNoNo blog was only set up this week just to mention this ‘story’, but now suddenly there is a new Instagram link here on CB and a comment from someone who has MIRACULOUSLY’ managed to work out exactly who this actress is and seems compelled to encourage us to go and have a look.

    SO… conspiracy hat on top of conspiracy hat lol (!) Here is what I am wondering…. This rumour appeared the day after the red carpet debacle. HW and PR, having seen the red carpet photos are coming to the conclusion that this just ain’t gonna wash, and start to look for an exit strategy. So is this an attempt to create further gossip and rumours (ie Secret GF, rumours/lies/people trying to spread gossip to split them up etc) which if they spread far enough can then be blamed for the inevitable break up? “There were so many lies and rumours that the pressure got too much for BC and the WILWIPT, and the relationship cracked”, in other words enabling them to make a dignified exit from this ‘situation’. I am not suggesting they are setting up another mystery girlfriend because this one didn’t work, (god help us if they are!!) but trying instead to instigate rumour and conspiracy gossip which the break up can be blamed upon.

    Finally, if this was true why would HW need SH – some two-bit English actress happy for the exposure – if BC already had one?!

    • Soothy says:

      Course it’s not true.

    • Claire says:

      Hey thanks for posting and joining the madhouse. I honestly don’t think his PR team is shrewd enough to have done such a thing or we wouldn’t see the shambles we’re seeing now. I think your first idea is likely correct: someone with too much time on their hands and dreams of hitting it big. I didn’t realize that tumblr is new: it supports the fact this is some fan who has no connection to him trying to get on this trainwreck for some chuckles/trolling.

      I think it’s chuckynono but choky nono is even better lol

      • MissMary says:

        Was just going to say that I think that’s the only post on that particular tumblr. I think it may be someone’s personal fanfic but there’s some bits of it I think are grounded in truth–mainly that the engagement was a surprise to those around him.

      • Claire says:

        Oh interesting.

      • MissMary says:

        Just went back and checked–no, it’s not the only post now but the others are spinning fast and hard to make it look “true” and throwing out tons of “reasons” why it isn’t b.s.

      • moodgirl says:

        Have his parents ever spoken publicly about the engagement?

      • Claire says:

        i don’t think so but then they may not have had an opportunity to do so. they don’t seem the type to go out of their way to talk to press. time will tell

      • MissMary says:

        @Claire No but the press most likely approached them f or comment esp after it made such a splash in the media about his engagement (the so private one, you know). Esp as her family was ready to go with a statement for a paper the next day. So nothing from his family? Makes me raise my brows a bit.

    • lola says:

      They don’t need an exit strategy – the relationship already seems to dysfunctional to last until February.

    • Freebunny says:

      About the “secret secret secret actress gf”, if you look at her Instragram you’ll see she has a family and a boyfriend and doesn’t seem interested in BC even if she seems to like his acting work.
      I don’t know how she gets mixed in this story but the girl has nothing to do with BC.
      Same for the other potential SH’s or BC’s lovers, some people need to find a new hobby.

  49. Lucifer says:

    look at the link just for the picture. Its priceless. m still laughing my god
    http://sophiehuntergossipblog.tumblr.com/post/103316708815/anon-gothic

  50. Lucifer says:

    The fact that no one REALLY assumed or thought she’d show up to anything to do with ‘Penguins of Madagascar’… there was no talk about it because literally, NO ONE thought she would be there. And she wasn’t. Why? Uhh… its not an oscar contender at all.

  51. anon says:

    My thought for what it’s worth. I think they’re old friends. I think Ben settled. His schedule is insane. Sophie was in the right place at the right time. I also think that she is pregnant. I really think that they will get married between Richard III and Sherlock with pregnancy announcement shortly after.

    And no Claire – not trolling. Just giving my opinion.

    • Soothy says:

      Why are so many people so convinced she’s pregnant? Seems strange to me.

    • moodgirl says:

      Another $10.00. winner. 😼 😕

    • OhHey says:

      I’ve said that (pregnant) from the beginning, because nothing else about the hurried proposal and announcement before a major press tour makes sense to me. Although, I still am sporting my tinfoil hat and pompoms for the ride on the conspiracy train for HW involvement, but that seems more far fetched to me than a surprise pregnancy and a way to make an honest woman of her and not look like a cad movie star who knocks ’em up and leaves them. And if you were her, found yourself pregnant by a bf you really aren’t in a serious relationship with, what would you do, marry him, or have it as a single woman? I’m still going for the surprise pregnancy….

      • moodgirl says:

        Single. Why compound the first mistake. Honestly, these two don’t look like they can get close enough to even have sex. They can’t even hold hands unless someone is watching.

      • NoisyBird says:

        single. i am a single mom and have loved every second of being a single parent.

      • OhHey says:

        Right. WE (sensible normal people) would say ‘why marry someone you don’t love, it won’t work, just be single and get support from the father’. For her to be pregnant and him not marrying her would be a PR disaster, he’d look like a total shit, (good enough to shag not good enough to marry) she’d be the victim of his callousness- worst case, they divorce a year later after the child is born.

      • MissMary says:

        IDK–a lot of celebs have kids with people they aren’t in relationships with. Hugh Grant leaps to mind, Jude Law (well, he has kids with FWBs), Camryn Manheim, while not as famous as she used to be, has a kid and she never revealed the father. There’s more lol but I’m on my phone and can’t go back and forth between google and here without going cross-eyed. Martin Freeman and Amanda Abbington have kids together and aren’t married, and that doesn’t seem to harm their careers at all.

      • moodgirl says:

        She should, with assistance from him, make out o.k. She seems a bit cold so he would have to go over and defrost the baby three times a week but they can make it work.

      • OhHey says:

        Well, as far as Martin and Amanda, they adore each other and their decision to have kids together and be together without being married is a conscious one, they’re committed. I don’t see that with this awkward, weird, relationship, I don’t see ANY relationship between them, much less that of partners who are having a child together. Hugh Grant, I think he’s kind of gross, having kids with what, three different women, two at the same time? Eww. It’s not the ‘not being married’ that bothers me, it’s the total lack of a relationship or commitment – to look at them together they have nothing, he hugs Eddie Redmayne tighter than he even stands next to her, so that’s definitely off. If he were not in a public campaign, maybe if there is a baby it would very quietly be an out of wedlock baby, but with them trying to make him look like a “SERIOUS ACTOR” and him knocking up someone he has been dating for a couple of months and then not marrying her, he’d look like a jerk and that would not be good for business.

  52. anon says:

    Oh-i forgot to add in the previous post that he quit smoking a month ago. Dead giveaway for a pregnant partner.

    • Soothy says:

      Firstly, I don’t necessarily believe he has given up smoking and secondly, nope it really isn’t a signal to a pregnant partner. For a start, he’s talked of trying to give up several times before and secondly, I have about six friends right now who are all giving up and they’re doing so for their health. None of them have ‘pregnant partners’. Sorry, I’m all for speculation, but sometimes people talk as if the speculation is fact based on pure guesswork.

      • Grace says:

        I’m not convinced he’s given up smoking either. If he has, good for him, but it sounded more like a timely excuse for his grumpiness.

    • MissMary says:

      HW always makes “his” actors stop smoking and drinking in public–just look at JLaw last year–if he thinks it’ll help their image w/middle America.

      And oh yeah, my SO didn’t stop smoking when I was pregnant. Just stayed outside when they smoked. So it’s not a “dead giveaway”.

    • moodgirl says:

      Please go back to IMDB.

    • lola says:

      LOL
      If he started taking folic acid (to lower chances of baby’s congenital defect) -> then I’d believe what you’re suggesting. 🙂

      BTW, he should stop smoking for his swimmer’s better performance.

  53. rosie says:

    I just have to wonder what his longstanding actor friends make of all this–the campaigning, the engagement etc. Still no comments on social media from friend and his family. It’s like a total blackout.

    • blended says:

      the campaigning is nothing new, especially when you are part of the weinstein machine. most actors, if they have any aspirations to be oscar winners, know that they have to hustle hard. but i’m sure the engagement has raised a lot of eyebrows among his friends. it’s very uncharacteristic of him, coupled with the odd behaviour.

  54. Lucifer says:

    His highness has spoken again and being hyperbolic does not even cut it

    “Since the woman I’m engaged to is as much a part of me as anything else in my life, if they like me, by extension they like her.”

    • OhHey says:

      Lucifer – EXACTLY. Once again the talking points have changed, from “I made HER happy that’s all that counts” to “if you love me you’ll love her” (not bloody likely, my friend…). What a complete load of bollocks, and WHO is writing this crap for him?

    • OhHey says:

      Why can’t he just PLEASE shut up before he ruins every shred of credibility he has left?

    • MissMary says:

      I said earlier that this strikes me as very fan shamey and also a pointed “don’t look at the man behind the curtain” comment on the people who are pointing out the wtfery. “Oh, if they like me, they’ll love her too and not criticize the inconsistencies in interviews or weird behavior. Just keep looking over here and don’t mind the criticism!”

      • OhHey says:

        It’s really embarrassing for him to keep talking and waffling – for someone who’s so private he can’t seem to shut the hell up. Add to that the fact that it’s still “I” and not “We” and he still cannot bring himself to utter her name, how on earth does he think he’s selling this crap?

    • Felice says:

      Oh my douche…..

    • moodgirl says:

      HE STILL CAN’T EVEN SAY HER NAME?????? If he talked about me this way I would aim my high heels at his a@@. How rude.

      Wouldn’t the average person say “Since Sophie is as much a part of me….” I can’t imagine someone as educated as BC would continue to do this. It must take a lot of effort.

      His very passive aggressive language towards “the woman I am engaged to”, like he can’t remember who it is or he’ll conjure up something ugly if he mentions it has to be either psychological or just down right deliberate.

      • rosie says:

        On another board, a poster suggests BC not saying Sophie’s name is a passive aggressive way of distancing himself from her. This is such a weird relationship. I can’t be convinced this is any type of authentic romantic relationship.

      • Soothy says:

        The idea that she needs ‘protecting’ is a barmy one. She’s a grown woman who doesn’t need to engage with or consider fans at all. They’re nothing to do with her. And seeing as he’s been very public about the engagement, I don’t think he would think any differently.

      • moodgirl says:

        @rosie – I agree. There is a real reason why he is doing it because he continues to do it so publicly.

      • OhHey says:

        Is he not mentioning her name because he’s trying keep it personal, if he mentions her name then it becomes too personal to share with the public? I’m actually starting to think the passive aggressive comment is right, she wasn’t exactly warm and fuzzy on the red carpet either.

      • moodgirl says:

        Everyone knows the woman’s name so what is there to keep personal. They jacked up her CV and released it to everyone in the galaxy so what is there to hide? Martians know her name.

      • moodgirl says:

        I forgot – By contrast, he refers to his OLD GIRLFRIEND by name – “My old girlfriend Olivia” or “My girlfriend at the time, Olivia.” I have heard him say both.

        He cannot, however, bring himself to refer to his CURRENT FIANCEE as Sophie? He has to call her “The woman I am engaged to”? or “The woman to whom I proposed?” The contrast is astonishing. This guy has problems. He’s either seething or unintelligent and I never took him for the latter.

      • MissMary says:

        He even refers to Anna by name during the War Horse promos. And that was *after* they broke up.

      • Laetitia says:

        I said I was going to step back from BC but I have to comment on this whole – not addressing Sophie by her first name. For those of us in relationships, married, etc. do you refer to your partner by his or her first name to someone who doesn’t know that person (ex: an interviewer, a random person on the street)? I’m going to take a guess that no you don’t, you refer to that person as either “my boyfriend, my fiancee, my girlfriend, etc.”. Not referencing someone by name is not impersonal. I truly feel that people are stretching here.

        Where I can relate is his referring to his fiancee as “the woman” or “the woman I am engaged to”, the latter are impersonal, repetitive, and unnecessary. “The woman I am engaged to” = Fiancee (there is 1 word to describe the 6 words that he used”. Do I think it’s weird he keeps referring to his fiancee without using the word fiancee? No, I don’t. Why? Because Benedict says shite sometimes that doesn’t make sense. Benedict will use 20 words when something can be easily answered with yes, no, or a few words (there is a word for this but I can’t remember). Essentially, I am saying that Benedict is “extra” therefore when he displays his extra-ness it shouldn’t surprise anyone.

        As an FYI (must be aware of my audience), “extra” can be used as US slang for “over the top, dramatic, etc.”

      • moodgirl says:

        Laetitia –

        I do not mention my boyfriend by name to random people, however, we are not famous actors nor did we break our necks to put our engagement announcement in the London Times, admittedly for the world to see.. One can’t put your business in the street and then feign anger when people ask about your business that you put on the street. BC put his personal life, and hers – including her name – out for all to see, most likely to manipulate the public – only to disrespect her. The very least he could do is refer to her by name as it is no longer a secret. Anything else is just ugly. I don’t care what his problem is.

        I had an epiphany that these people are mounting an all out assault on the general public to win a movie award. They do not care who gets hurt or if their reputation will survive in the end. I didn’t think they would go that far. I like this site because everyone is nice and I love solving mysteries but this is scraping the bottom of the barrel with the manipulation. It takes a lot to shock me but I am kind of shocked and offended.

      • **sighs** says:

        I sometimes refer to my husband as “my husband”. Usually it’s in the confines of a joke, if the people I’m talking to know him, or if they don’t know him at all.

        But even when I do that, I’m still staking claim. My= possession husband = endearment, indicates we are married.
        If he said my fiancée, that would be much more personal than what he is going now. He’s referring to her as “the woman” that….. That could be any woman. So that, coupled with a lack of name is depersonalizing.

    • Lu says:

      That is really so offensive—for him to speak about her as an extension of him, part of him. I *know* that’s not exactly what he said (“by extension they like her”) but that is the underlying assumption. She used to be Sophie Hunter, but now her identity is part of his, huh? TWILTWIPT, TWIET, TMIWIEM, etc.

      Also, in what world do people like someone’s partner only because they like the person himself? I guess in the world where everyone loves you and is obsessed with you (Benedict’s mind) to the extent that they approve of every little thing you do. But out here in the real world, why the heck should we like her? We don’t know her, and all we’ve seen of her is not the kind of stuff that either you “like” or makes you think she’s a great person. I suppose as loyal subjects of our Otter Prince, we must equally adore his Princess Consort.

      • OhHey says:

        For someone who really doesn’t care what his ‘fans’ think about his private life, he seems to be going way out on a limb to appease them. Can he not just have said, “yes, WE are very happy and looking forward to our marriage, but our private lives are our own so we won’t be making any further statements”. He keeps making it worse, now the most ‘incredible woman he’s ever met’ is nothing more than his appendage who must be accepted if you are to like him. Well, that ain’t gonna happen.

        Someone in his PR firm, please read – tell Benedict to just stop talking, please.

      • blended says:

        he has to keep making statements because the PR for the movie, and for the oscars is relying on this engagement. he’s being forced to talk about it, and it’s obvious he’s doing it reluctantly because he’s been awkward, angry, and unenthusiastic about the whole thing. at oscar time, previously ‘private’ celebs aren’t so private anymore (see natalie portman, michelle williams).

      • moodgirl says:

        @blended, Lu

        By ignoring her name he is de-personalizing her in some way. Referring to person by name is acceptance, using a stand in for them is almost de-humanizing.

        I mentioned it to my married bff and she simply said “Oh.” She had a negative reaction to it. It’s as if he doesn’t want to even acknowledge her by name. What could she have done to deserve that. Like “Hey you.”

      • blended says:

        @moodgirl, yes i believe i have said that before in comments on other threads. i.e. the distancing by not using her name.
        my comment here was in response to people asking him to stop talking about the engagement. i’m saying, he isn’t allowed to stop talking about it because the whole point was to use it as the basis for the campaign.

      • Claire says:

        “What could she have done to deserve that. Like “Hey you.””

        Irony noted!

      • Lucifer says:

        she is just a mere shadow of HIs highness. She is not even a person. a shadow
        @lu yes it is freakingly offensive

      • Soothy says:

        But I still don’t understand why anyone cares about her? If you’re a fan of his, then you’re a fan of HIS work etc, so why would you give an eff about her? I’m just sick of not being able to read anything about him without seeing her name or face.

  55. rosie says:

    Whitewashing her CV is totally over the top. I would expect that type of behavior from a control freak like Tom Cruise, but not BC (if he is indeed behind it). It’s extremely odd.