This post gave me the excuse to dig up old photos of Johnny Depp and Vanessa Paradis during happier times. As we know, Johnny and Vanessa broke up at some point during 2012, but the timeline was sketchy. I don’t know if Johnny cheated on Vanessa with Amber Heard, but there were rumors that they hooked up while filming The Rum Diary, which came out in 2011. Amber supposedly ditched the whole cast (including Johnny) when they partied at night, and Johnny always asked everyone where Amber went. Every night. It was weird, and he was obviously hung up on her.
The Enquirer has a new bit of gossip about the fallout from Johnny’s sweet, drunken romance with a mic at the HFAs. We already heard how Amber was “mortified” because she believed the incident would reflect badly on her. Then came reports of Amber’s cold feet and “turmoil“ in the relationship. The Enquirer now claims that Vanessa blames Amber for the fact that Johnny is acting like a drunken fool:
Johnny Depp’s former squeeze Vanessa Paradis has slammed his fiancée, Amber Heard, for driving him to drink again!
“Vanessa’s convinced Amber’s not mature or tough enough to deal with Johnny’s drinking,” an insider said.
The 42-year-old mom of Johnny’s two kids “was horrified” by his boozy behavior at the Hollywood Film Awards and blames Amber, sources said.
“Watching him slurring and swaying was a nightmare for her.”
Vanessa’s anger comes amid reports that Amber, 28, and Johnny, 51, have hit a rocky patch. “There’s turmoil,” an insider claimed. “She’s not ready to settle down.”
Johnny seemed impaired at the event packed with showbiz hotshots. Now friends say Vanessa fears he may have damaged his career, and standing as a father.
“It burns Vanessa to see him making such a fool of himself,” the friend said. “She blames Amber for his mid-life crisis.”
[From The National Enquirer, print edition, December 22, 2014]
Huh. I don’t really believe this story, mostly because I doubt Vanessa gives a second thought to Johnny’s antics anymore. For real. The last few years of Vanessa and Johnny were so messy that I think she was happy to be rid of the drama. Johnny was always a sloppy drunk, but he kept it under wraps for a few years — when he was courting Disney during the first few Pirates films. When Johnny and Vanessa officially split, we heard stories about how V. thought A. was “man-stealing, two-bit nobody,” but that was probably fan fiction. Vanessa is so over it that she’s never been under it. Right?
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet & WENN
How is a second party supposed to be in charge of keeping the first party’s drinking in check? Was Amber hired as a sober coach or nanny, or is she just a girlfriend? How about Johnny moderating his own drinking?
He was always well functioning addict but lately we saw unfiltered Johny in his full glory.. Perhaps, Vanessa knew much better how to deal with his behavior for the sake of unity& kids.
If someone is an addict who can’t dial it back on their own, or won’t, then I’d argue that no one is going to rescue them from themselves. He isn’t a child that can be given a time-out.
Further, Johnny has recently had some less than successful projects, has been under scrutiny for his relationship, appears to be quite introverted but his work necessitates he be very public. He is in a very different stage of his career and may be struggling with personal conflict with loving the work, but hating the requirements. This would have less to do with a partner and more to do with how he ALONE reconciles what is good for him, instead of collapsing into a breakdown.
Vanessa words sound a bit like an enabler, she is blaming others, when the fault is with Johnny himself. He is the one drinking.
Also this is not the first time he has been on stage drunk, he was drunk before on stage in year he was with Vanessa, but it was not to the sloshed words point, so it just appeared as if Johnny was reading wrong or rambling a bit. This is just the most drunk he has walked on stage.
It’s possible Vanessa actively tried to manage or dial back Johnny’s drinking. She may have even had a hand in covering up any gaffes he made. Amber, on the other hand, may be more of the, “Nope, not my problem” mentality and refuse to take on that role of caretaker. This would explain why it seems like he is suddenly spiraling out of control, but there is no right or wrong way to deal with someone else’s addiction.
Maybe it’s not even addiction as much as binging. And again, Vanessa was with him when he was younger and at a very different point in his career.
Kiddo is right. Ultimately, the addict has to decide to stop. You can try to “manage” and “deal with his behavior” all you want. That’s called enabling. I disagree that there’s no right or wrong way to deal with someone else’s addiction. I covered up (I thought) my ex husband’s alcoholism for years, called in “sick” for him, tried to be sure he didn’t arrive drunk at important functions, etc. and I was hurting him by doing that. The more I “helped” the easier it was for him (and me) to deny that there was a serious problem. If I had faced it it sooner I would have left sooner, and that may have helped him to face it himself. Or maybe not. Maybe he would still have gone from an Ivy League MBA to the hopeless drunk he is today. People tell me he calls them in the morning and tells them a story, then calls them back in two hours and has no recollection of talking to them. It’s sad. But it was not my fault, and it was not in my control. He’s the only person who can get help and stop the behavior.
This, exactly. Ridiculous.
Might I add that he looks like such a dandy fop, a complete boob with the fob, walking stick, and spats. Good god.
I think it is completely Johnny’s responsibility to take care of himself, not his partner’s. I really don’t like it when women are cast in the role of either their man’s savior or the opposite (the one who ‘drives’ him to drink). That being said, here’s a quote from Johnny himself from a Rolling Stone interview (2005):
‘That was kind of a nasty, darker period for me. I can’t say I was completely unhappy, but I couldn’t get a grasp on it, so I spent years poisoning myself. I was very, very good at it. But finally I was faced with a critical decision: Do I want to continue to be a dumbass or do I want not to be a dumbass? It was best to stop. Now I look back and say, “Why? Why did I do that?” And since the viewing of the Back, from that great distance, I’ve been another animal altogether. I can’t even compare it to anything else. There’s been many times when I’ve teetered on the brink of absolute madness, and unfortunately, once I go, I go, so I count on Vanessa to talk me down. And it takes some serious fucking reeling in to bring me back to three-dimensional reality. But it’s not anywhere near as disturbing as it used to be. With age, you do mellow in certain areas. And it’s fucking happiness.’
The fact that he says ‘I count on Vanessa to talk me down’ makes it clear to me that he probably tends to rely very much on on the women in his life to keep him sane. Understandable, but not healthy behavior. For anyone who still doubts that Johnny has serious issues with alcohol, read: http://www.deppimpact.com/about_drugs.php
I’ve always thought Vanessa was a huge influence on his sobriety. His years with her are really the only time in his career when he wasn’t a mess. The difference is before Vanessa people wrote it off to youth and passion. He also came to be known to a whole new group of people while with Vanessa so many didn’t remember his younger behavior. Now at 51 he just looks pathetic and many people seem to be shocked by behavior as if it is something suddenly new. I say this as a huge fan of his talent but I have always thought he was always walking on the edge of disaster.
Well said kiddo…
Interesting,…..how she blames the woman.
Vanessa needs to realize , that Johnny is an adult who makes his OWN decisions about what he puts into his body.
Johnny, love him, but he needs to sort himself out.
For sure, but they share children and Vanessa is undoubtedly very concerned that when he has them he’s a drunken mess.
No one is saying she shouldn’t be concerned, of course she should, but the blame on his drinking is HIS OWN.
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Its the enquirer. So lets not act as if it is “her words” as you say. Being the enquirer its very likely that they are just pitting woman against woman as a means to create a gossip story
Is she concerned about the father of her children though? Probably.
If she is so “concerned for her children that when he has them he’s a drunken mess” as you say, then why she leave to Paris a couple of days after his drunken speech and left the children with Johnny and Amber Heard for all these weeks?
Vanessa is in France, she was seen leaving LA the next day. She has been seen several times over the days in France with her boyfriend. She has been given several interviews over the past weeks, and her children have been with Johnny, there are pictures of Jack in Thanksgiving with Amber’s friends and this week Amber and Johnny were photographed at an event in Lily’s school.
Don’t you think if she were so worried then she wouldn’t have left the children with him?
until her words are actually quoted and spoken by her, I wouldn’t attribute any of this to her, or make recommendations about what she should do. She appears to have a pretty laissez faire attitude, so these quotes don’t really ring true.
What part of Amber being a “man stealing, two bit nobody” is fiction?
Love Johnny but he left Vanessa, He played a part in where he is.
I agree. This is all on the cheating spouse.
That said, I think the NE tale is fiction mainly because there is no way AH is NOT going through with this wedding. She’s not letting that golden goose get away.
I’m not exonerating Johnny. He’s a dirt bag. He cheated. He left. His fault. But I’m also saying Amber is, in fact, a man stealing, two bit nobody.
No he’s not and no he didn’t.
Must be hard for people who have had everything when they start to lose it.
Not believing V gives a damn one way or another. If they were truly that unhappy the last few years before the split, all she feels is relief. The truth is we don’t have a clue since she is actually quite private about her life with (as far as I can tell, and I read French mags) no drama or pearl clutching or snarky tell-alls with the tabloids. She has her life, her kids, probably walked away with a decent settlement. If Johnny wants to look ridiculous to the world, she is well out of it.
I think she probably does care a lot. He is the father of her children and what he does affects them. I do not think she blames Amber though. She knows better than anybody his demons and is smart enough to realize that a partner cannot change an addict.
Agree with you completely, of course that his actions impact his children to a certain extent and that part would concern her. I meant she doesn’t care from a romantic stand point nor do I think she sits there blaming it all on Amber one way or another. Who knows what she felt during the breakup, and she may not like Amber at all, but she knows Johnny and he needs no help to get drunk. Everyone is an addict by themselves, and while I have heard that some people do quit/get help for the sake of a partner (RDJ) I don’t think that applies across the board. Maybe Johnny did drink less while he was with Vanessa, but it was still his choice… Now he makes different ones. Too bad.
I do hope Vanessa is happy and hopefully the kids don’t end up too affected by it (although a parent’s drinking does have consequence, as I know too well.)
Oh I totally agree she doesn’t care in a romantic sense. If anything, she is probably grateful she doesn’t have to deal with that on a daily basis anymore. I hope he gets his act together though, with or without Amber.
Yes. She strikes me as a person who will always look on Depp with affection because he is the father of her children and that does connect you to a person like nothing else will, especially if you truly spend time together raising the children, which they did. That doesn’t mean she feels any responsibility towards him but I have to believe that watching him spiral like this has to make her a bit sad.
I agree, since their split she is reborn: she looks better (she was painfully thin) she works she has a man, yes obviously she cares about the children but I don’t think she blames Amber, she knows what kind of drunken mess Johnny is.
Of course she cares that the father of her children is a drunken mess, but that’s on him, not on his current girlfriend. I think Paradis is intelligent enough to realize that, though. Almost everything the Enquirer prints is bullshit.
Sorry but when he was with Vanessa he was seen several times very very drunk so i don’t think she knew how to deal with him either.
And now Vanessa is in France with her boyfriend, i doubt she’s thinking on Johnny much more less talking to any source in the National Enquirer about Johnny’s drinking habits.
I’ve seen pictures of Amber and Johnny this week at an event on Lily’s and Jack’s school, so they are still together and if she for her was so important that Johnny wasn’t drinking (for what it’s said she pressured him to stop drinking for the past two years and she wanted to called off the wedding for his presentation at the award show) maybe they already make a “deal” about this (maybe Johnny will start to stop drinking again or whatever makes her happy)
Now about The Rum Diary the movie was shooted in 2009, so if they were having an affair since then (seems unlikely to me) they were fooling Vanessa and her former girlfriend for almost three years (seems unlikely to me). I think it’s what has been said several times, that they started to hooking up on that month of promo tour they did around the US and Europe
slightly off topic, but I find Vanessa so beautiful and elegant.
I would agree that he seems very much an RDJ who has shown that he isn’t capable of maintaining on his own, and needs someone stronger headed than he is to keep him in check.
Some people succeed because they don’t give a f**k.
And they can fail for the same reason.
Amber’s head up, nostril flare pose on the red carpet is so embarrassing LOL
Johnny used to have such lovely skin. If anything stop with the boozing/drugs man. It should be a crime to ruin that beautiful face (even though it’s probably already beyond repair.) He also gained a lot of weight because of his lifestyle.
Well, in real life news Johnny and Amber were seen together at his children’s school
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Paradis looks really happy with a French rocker hottie she’s been with for a while…. i knew someone working with her back in 2011 and they were already pretty much split from what i heard. and it didn’t seem like she cared!
NE? Vanessa and Johnny will always be close, it’s in their vedic astrology charts. There’s a lot of good, positive history there, and even though they’ve moved on, these two will continue to care for each other in a good way. They share the kids and they both love those kids, which will go on and on. This won’t fare well for Amber now that the party’s over.