Tim Burton: Working with Michael Keaton was ‘my most profoundly creative time’

Michael Keaton

This is my favorite photo to come out of last weekends SAGs … Michael Keaton and Edward Norton hanging out with their best ensemble awards. Both of them were Oscar nominated for Birdman, and it’s going to be over three weeks before we find out the winners.

Keaton did an Oscar-promoting feature in the February issue of Esquire. The interview is all over the place. I was very excited to read this article, but it’s terrible. The journo flew to Montana (because Esquire can’t do a freaking normal interview) and hung out at Keaton’s ranch, and still, nothing. A big void of nothing. Whereas other journos have recently extracted some rather compelling discussions from the man. I apologize for this vat of nonsense. The journo doesn’t like Keaton because he “speaks like a lot of water going over a cliff.” One part of this talk sticks out for me:

Tim Burton on Keaton: “Michael is always on, he has an intensity of discipline. He doesn’t follow any traditional path. He refuses. My original thought for Beetlejuice was Sammy Davis Jr. But then I met with Michael and he immediately started making the character. Blew me away. He’s a master improviser. And then when it came to Batman, I’d been meeting with these beefy action-hero types, then Michael arrives, working at the opposite pole from Beetlejuice. He comes in with this whole psychology, approaching it with an almost manic-depressive quality in mind. I thought: Now I get it. There’s a reason that guy dresses up like a bat. Those crazy blue eyes, peering out of that rubber cocoon. It’s a terrible thing to do to a good actor. Michael handled it with his eyes. That time with Michael, working on Beetlejuice and Batman, that was the most profoundly creative time in my career, every day was exciting. I miss it.”

Keaton on his hiatus: “I don’t know. That’s what I always say. I mean, that’s where I was. I just decided that I won’t do a lot of things. Financially there were probably parts where I could have done quite well, and I thought: That’s not what I am. It’s bullsh*t. I’m lying. I won’t do it. And you pay a price financially. And I go: That’s okay. I’m gonna put that on me. You’re gonna fail or you’re not gonna fail. You’re gonna win. Or you’re not. And I love to win. I f***ing love to win. And when it comes down to it, I’m gonna find a way. So there was no real plan. I didn’t want to be bored. And I get bored easily. And I’d hear myself. I see myself. I’d think: You’ve done this a thousand times. You know. That voice. That trick. So I always tried to find things that were hard enough that I remained interested. Sometimes I won, sometimes I didn’t.”

On being recognized: “Guys will come up to me and say, ‘I’ll always remember you in this, for that one kinda guy.’ I’m not saying I don’t like it. Anyone who says they don’t like it when people compliment you is a f***ing liar. But what I really like is when someone says, ‘You did this thing once, this thing that nobody ever did before. I believed it.’ I like it when people get specific about things.”

On photoshoots: “I hate it, most actors do. There’re only a few photographers I’ve ever felt really comfortable with. You know, I don’t like doing that big, jumping-around, smiling, happy thing, let’s-play-some-sh*tty-music, dance around the studio like we’re all digging it. I really kind of hate it. Uh, so I’d rather just, you know, make it simple, straightforward.”

[From Esquire]

Esquire has a long history of throwing celebrities under the bus. The journo for this piece was Tom Chiarella. He’s the same guy who picked apart Matthew McConaughey after McConaughey put him up for the weekend and let him attend a celebrity party. He also made us question Brooklyn Decker’s intelligence and made Bruce Willis look neurotic. In this piece Chiarella notes that Keaton calls and emails him several times before and after the interview. Keaton was very specific about what he wanted from the shoot and kept talking about how worried he was. Chiarella and his editor seemed puzzled: “Movie stars, don’t do this, you know. They don’t call. They just don’t, not to help.” For the record, I don’t think Keaton was trying to be overbearing. He’s nervous about being “a movie star” again. I think he was also trying to be a good host to Chiarella (who wasn’t having it) in Montana. Esquire’s feature was a lost opportunity (and rude to Keaton).

The one part I enjoyed was Tim Burton’s admission. Working with Keaton was “the most profoundly creative time” for him! More than working with Helena or Johnny Depp. Interesting. FYI: Winona Ryder confirmed Beetlejuice 2 is happening.

Michael Keaton

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  1. Aussie girl says:

    Ooh that’s going to hurt jonhhy

  2. lila fowler says:

    I want him to win the Oscar so badly.

    • insomniac says:

      Same here. Nothing against Eddie Redmayne, but Keaton was so good in “Birdman.”

    • CLEA says:

      Oh I do too! I love Eddie R.—think he’s tremendously gifted and versatile and do think he has at least one Oscar in his future.
      But Michael has earned his moment and meets the criteria:
      1. he batted out of the park an Oscar-calibre performance
      2. he’s long overdue

      And on a personal note, I love seeing his joy at all this appreciation for his work.
      I wish him the ultimate moment and will personally be over the moon happy to share it with him (from my couch!!!)

  3. Mar says:

    He is so underrated.

    • Dree says:

      Absolutely, one of the best actors in america. Vastly underrated. Comes across as a decent guy too.

    • mia girl says:

      I totally agree. He has always been underrated.

    • Lauren says:

      I have adored Michael since Multiplicity – he played 4 characters brilliantly! That is an understatement.
      How do you define *better than brilliant?*

      MK is so sexy and raw. Not too pretty. Just hard working, dedicated, and refuses to compromise his values.
      He was incredible 25 years ago. Why has it taken so long for him to be recognized?

  4. BengalCat2000 says:

    I loved him as Batman. I was in high school when it came out and my teen brain thought he was so cerebral. Haven’t seen it in over 20 years, so not sure if it holds up, but he seems to have gotten better with age.

    • Maggie says:

      Me too. He will ALWAYS be the Batman to me, regardless of what actor has decided to take a stab at it.

    • lylaooo says:

      he is my bataman! i love him! ♥ him and catewoman (because Michelle is my catwoman) were my superheroes and they still are. also in the movie Mi life with Nicole Kidman that was my favorite movie when i was a kid, and now i see him getting recognition again makes me so happyyy for himm!! i just love him !

  5. Betti says:

    I so would with him – he’s like fine wine, gets better with age.

  6. Des says:

    I love him.

    That’s all.

  7. smee says:

    I never thought he was handsome at all until I saw these photos. He looks trim and is aging really well. I love his no star b.s. attitude.

  8. L says:

    Aging well, too.

  9. Tiffany says:

    I love what he said about fan who recognize his work and how other artist are full of it when they say they don’t. Also, what is with the writers of Esquire and their attitudes with their subjects. You want to say to them, ‘You write for Esquire.’

  10. Louise says:

    He looks so good in that blue suit.

  11. Mom2two says:

    I want him to win so bad. I think his career has had ups and downs and he sounds like a guy who wants the interview to come off well. To me, he sounds honest.
    If Keaton comes back for Beetlejuice 2, I am so there.

  12. danielle says:

    Ouch to Johnny depp! Hahaha!

  13. mia girl says:

    All of the actors who get to play complicated super-heroes and even anti-heroes owe a lot to Keaton and Burton. They took a chance with their approach to Bruce Wayne and delivered.

    I have so much love for Keaton. His performance in Birdman was inspired.
    And it makes me happy to know that we might see a lot more Keaton because of that performance. He better take home an Oscar.

  14. jlee says:

    I remember watching My Life at a friends house when I was in high school & sobbing the whole walk home. That movie killed me!

    • Lisa says:

      I watched it in high school for a class. EVERYONE CRIED. Even my teacher! It was on TV a few nights ago and I noped out of it.

  15. 'P'enny says:

    Tim Burton is creeping up to Keaton, then. Johnny Depp is a big of a box office no-go at the moment and his last film with depp was pants, so its time to bring out the popular big guns again. And, Tim has lost his other muse Helena, he needs fresh blood though. It annoys me to see directors like Happy Days guy, name escapes me, working with same actors all the time.
    Branch oooout.

    • Tulip says:

      He’s definitely creeping, but I really hope it’s because they have bosses in common who are putting the pressure on Tim to kiss up during award season (and not because he hustling for money). Even so, he should have worded it better. It really does sound like he threw Johnny under the bus. After all is said and done, it wasn’t Michael Keaton he chose to work with on film after film.

      As for branching out, he did try to when he directed “Big Eyes” (which is also up for awards, I think. )

      And did you mean Ron Howard?

    • anne_000 says:

      I disagree that the reason why Burton thinks Keaton is more creative than Depp is because of the current status of each of these actors. Keaton is definitely the better actor, more imaginative & creative, and more ‘truthful’ in his portrayal of the characters. He’s more original and unique than Depp,.

  16. scout says:

    Deserving Oscar winner for sure.

  17. Talie says:

    I so hope he wins the Oscar. The voters need to come to their senses… Eddie has years to get there. Michael’s time is NOW.

  18. JWQ says:

    So basically:

    “Johnny is over, people give a damn about Michael again, and of course I have always thought Keaton was the best one of the two, even though I haven’ t worked with him or talked about him in 20 years and I have had a hard-on for Depp for the entirety of that time!” – Tim Burton

    • Mrs. Darcy says:

      Yeah, it seems timed pretty interestingly…Johnny, look, he’s in my bad books right now, he’s down the rabbit hole and maybe never coming back. But him doing Edward Scissorhands with Burton was a huge risk that gave Burton a big boost – I know that was how he wanted his career to be, not to follow a beaten path, but he chose to do it with Burton, and has been loyal to him all these years. Burton’s an a** to kiss up to Keaton out of the blue. I think Johnny would like to be Michael Keaton, and I do think he’s talented, but he overextends and can’t quit hit those pure high notes of insane genius that Keaton makes appear effortless. But he tried, hard, to make Burton’s overblown films work, and Burton trying to shift the blame onto him is a sh*t sandwich. Glad Helena got rid of him.

      • JWQ says:

        I don’ t like Johnny Depp. I enjoy some of his movies, but I don’ t like him as a person, and I don’ t think he’ s that talented.
        However, asskissers, famewhores and ungrateful bastards irk me. Tim Burton has spent the past years working, basically, only with Depp, and exploiting the fact that he was a fan and critic favourite. Now that he is not anymore, he wants someone else to fill that void, and acts like he has always known who the big deal was. He’ s treating Keaton as the love of his life and Depp as the rebound relationship between breaking up and getting together again with The One. Sure he treated him amazingly while he needed him, but now who cares?

        I just think it’ s incredibly revolting the way people in the show business use each other in this way and no one EVER calls them out about it!

    • Josefa says:

      … What does Johnny Depp have to do with any of this? I think most of us agree with what Burton is saying here – Batman and Beetlejuice (and probably Scissorhands) ARE his best, most classic and beloved works. I don’t think this has anything to do with Johnny Depp.

      • JWQ says:

        There are other people in this thread who have had the same impression as me and immediately linked this to Depp. The very first comment on this thread is “Ooh that’s going to hurt jonhhy”, so it’ s not like I am imagining things!
        We just find it weird that after 20 years working with a guy (Depp), Burton says that the best creative period of his life was spent with someone else (Keaton, whom Burton hasn’ t acknowledge in decades), and coincidentally it happens when the one he has been working with lately is not hot anymore, and the other is suddenly getting critics’ s and people’ s recognition.

        I don’ t know if Burton is just that dumb and doesn’ t realize how bad he sounds, or he is just that big of a jerk and is trying to publicly dump Depp because he’ s been having a bad period. What I know is that I don’ t like Depp, and Burton’ s comment is making me think that everyone in Hollywood is an opportunist ready to ditch his closest friends at the first problem, and it’ s also making me feel bad for him (not enough to watch his latest movies and stop believing he is having a mid-life crisis, but still…)!

  19. Newgirl says:

    Beetlejuice beetlejuice Beetlejuice! yes… He looks like a cool guy

  20. sarah says:

    I’m so happy so many people so far in the comments section have this love for Michael Keaton. I saw Birdman and I was blown away. It’s so creative and I’ve never seen a movie like it. And it excels because of Michael. I’m rooting for him to win the Oscar and if he doesn’t I’ll be sad. Michael gets it about award season. He’s having fun and isn’t aww shucks about it. Breath of fresh air, truly.

  21. Ash says:

    Wow. Michael just gets better with age. 😀

  22. Rhiley says:

    Have any of you ever seen Mr. Mom? It is one of my all time favorite movies from my childhood. I had on VHS Mr Mom, Tootsie, and The Incredible Shrinking Woman. I was like 5 or 6 when these movies came out, but I loved them. I thought Terri Garr and Michael Keaton were such cool parents and wanted to join their pack.

    • mia girl says:

      Yes! I’ve been such a fan of Keaton’s from way back… Night Shift, Johnny Dangerously and yes Mr. Mom. I have always found him to be so talented, compelling and sexy.

    • Paige says:

      forgot about mr. mom….that is one of my favorites too!
      “clean up on aisle 5, I wasn’t even on aisle 5”

  23. AG-UK says:

    I want him to win as well. Loved him in Birdman and he has this suaveness bald and all still wouldn’t turn him away from my door. Sorry hubby… He just seems like a nice man and wear a suit.. good lord.

  24. Paige says:

    PIZZA! I LIKE PIZZA!
    LOL,…I just had to say it! he will forever be my batman…but multiplicity is my all time favorite movie of his!

  25. Coco says:

    OMG I loved Mr Mom. “You fed a baby chili?!?”