Brian Williams probably lied about Katyusha rocket fire in Israel too

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When we last checked in Brian Williams, he had decided to “leave the anchor’s desk” but only for a few days. NBC has decided to do an internal investigation into the swirling claims that Williams has openly lied and “misremembered” several stories involving being hit by RPGs in Iraq, witnessing dead bodies floating down the street in New Orleans and rescuing several puppies. At worst, Williams is a liar and a fantasist who needs to be fired. At best…??? I don’t have an “at best”. At best, he’s got a terrible memory and/or he co-opts other people’s stories to make himself sound cooler.

So, what’s new today? Page Six is Truth Squading yet another Williams’ story, this time about how he was riding in a heliocopter in Israel and Katyusha rockets passed under the chopper.

Another of Brian Williams’ wild reporting tales is being called into question – this time it’s an account of his trip to Israel in 2006. In a 2007 interview, Williams recalled riding on an Israeli military helicopter that was flying just above rockets fired by Hezbollah as they were passing over northern Israel, according to The Washington Post.

“There were Katyusha rockets passing just underneath the helicopter I was riding in,” he told Fairfield University student reporter Emily Fitzmaurice. But he never disclosed that close brush with Hezbollah fire in an NBC News blog post he penned in July 2006. In that account, he was riding along with a “a high-ranking general in the Israeli Defense Forces” at 1,500 feet, and the rocket fire was happening on the ground below.

“They’re having some shelling right now,” the pilot tells me. “They landed about 30 seconds ago.” Williams wrote that he looked out his window and saw “smoke and dust” where the rockets landed.

“Then,” he said, “I noticed something out the window. From a distance of six miles, I witnessed a rocket launch. A rising trail of smoke, then a second rocket launch, an orange flash and more smoke — as a rocket heads off toward Israel.”

Williams never claims the weapons were “just beneath” his aircraft, as he did in the later interview. A month after penning the NBC News blog post on his trip to Israel, Williams told the story again on “The Daily Show,” saying the rockets passed “1,500 feet beneath us.”

“And we’ve got the gunner doors on this thing, and I’m saying to the general, some four-star: ‘It wouldn’t take much for them to adjust the aim and try to do a ring toss right through our open doors, would it?’” he tells Jon Stewart. At the end of the interview, Williams boasts, “Anytime you want to cross over to the other side, baby, travel with me.”

[From Page Six]

Well… I don’t know. Out of all the Truth Squading on Williams’ various stories, I think this one is one of the weaker “he’s lying!!” stories. Then again, there seems to be a pattern emerging, right? Williams tells endless stories about his bravery and heroics in facing down danger at every turn, just to do his job. There’s a narcissism there and it disturbs me.

So, obviously, NBC is finally putting together a list of people who could possibly take over the NBC anchor desk if (and when) they need to fire Williams. According to Page Six (not the most reliable, granted), the shortlist involves Willie Geist, Carl Quintanilla and Lester Holt. NBC is also considering Matt Lauer, which… I mean, that would be the end of NBC Nightly News, if people had to see Lauer’s smug mug in the evening. For the love of God, just give it to Lester Holt!!! Holt is amazing. Holt should be running NBC News anyway. He’s a quality journalist, he has gravitas, he has a great voice and he has on-screen presence. I like Willie Geist, but he’s not anchor material. I feel like Quintanilla is too young too.

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  1. Abbott says:

    But were there puppies on the helicopter? Was Sophie behind the rocket fire? Has anyone checked the cell tower records? And what about the Nisha call?!? Why are you doing this to me, Sarah Koenig???

    • FLORC says:

      lol! The puppy/puppies fire rescue story was terrible.

      This whole thing is very disappointing 🙁
      And not that he’s under a microscope it will only get worse until he steps away from his station. He had promise, but now his legacy is ruined.

    • Tiffany :) says:

      “Has anyone checked the cell tower records? And what about the Nisha call?!? ”

      THANK YOU for making me smile! 😀

  2. kri says:

    Why go Walter Mitty when you don’t have to? I am at a loss with this situation. It’s just so odd. And, yes, he should be fired.

    • Brin says:

      Yep….report the news, don’t become the news.

    • Cindy says:

      Exactly! He has (had) it all…he is rich, popular with audiences, etc. Why lie? the truth of his life was more than most have. He reminds of the journalist from the New Republic, chris glass, who was caught fabricating stories ( there is a movie about it called Shattered Glass).

      • qwerty says:

        That was a good film.

        I thik it’s more than a growing appetite for celebrity, as a certified armchair psychologist I’d say it’s about ego and a deep belief that whatever he’s doing is not enough, belief that stems from way before he became famous. He had a lot but needed MORE to feel good about himself and was willing to take a huge risk to satisfy that need.

    • boredblond says:

      Maybe he liked the growing celebrity of appearing with Letterman and Stewart so often more than the anchor man role.

      • moodgirl says:

        Everyone wants to be a star rather than just do their job and call it a day. We are all entitled to be fawned over and bullsh** on talk shows, from Brian Willams to President Obama – see, we’re rock stars.

  3. Coco says:

    I used to exaggerate stories with embellishments and little white lies. Then I turned 8 and left it all behind.

    • MC2 says:

      Great comment! I was a little delayed & stopped at 9.

      • Dee Kay says:

        Excellent comment. What Williams did does seem childish in the extreme. Adults, or rather people who are grown-ups intellectually and emotionally and psychologically, don’t feel the need to constantly tell tall tales in order to get attention.

  4. Kori says:

    Said it before–LOVE Lester Holt! Great voice and presence. Has the looks of an anchorman without being to stiff or pretty boy. Lots of experience. I’d like Willie to eventually take over Today personally–he does serious and lighter, just needs more hard news experience.

    • Greata says:

      @Kori…THIS +1111111111111111111

    • minx says:

      I live in Chicago and Lester Holt worked on CBS here before he went to the “big time”. He does have a nice presence and AFAIK is credible as a journalist.

      • Sea Dragon says:

        Aaaah! That’s one of the things I came here to say. Lester is a Chicago man! I watched him growing up and was really happy when he joined the national team. And yes, his voice- I’d recognise it anywhere. So cool.

      • angie says:

        +1, minx and Sea Dragon, and I’d just like to add that I still miss his mustache even though he looks great clean shaven.

  5. Talie says:

    Lester was throwing some shade last night though! He’ll probably take over for real in a few weeks. Brian will do some kind of sitdown interview and then bow out. A sad end for him, but he’ll find some other splashy job elsewhere.

    • FLORC says:

      If he even does a sit down. I bet it’ll be just a statement admitting some measure of fault and bow out. His daughter will get the backlash too imo. She shouldn’t, but if he steps out this will be a scandal discussed for a bit.

      • moodgirl says:

        She, along with many other kids of famous parents, owes her career to her dad so she may experience the fallout.

  6. DenG says:

    So depressing. What to believe? It’s hard enough to ferret out the truth in our personal lives and here I am reading celebrity gossip sites. What to believe. How to know. Don’t know. I’m cynical, yeah.

  7. littlemissnaughty says:

    Do other news anchors or journalists do this in the US? Tell everyone their own stories and hero crap? It’s very foreign to me but I usually only see snippets of American news programs. Except for the handful that were on CNN International before that got axed from my cable. I do like me some Anderson Cooper though.

    • perplexed says:

      Barbara Walters doesn’t talk about being in the middle of rocket fire, but I have noticed she likes to name-drop or insert herself into a story when a celebrity dies.

    • qwerty says:

      Anderson Cooper wrote about his war correspondence trips in his book but he’s a humble guy IMO, and whenever he talks about stuff he’s seen it’s to describe how it affects a person, and changes them. Mostly he doesn’t talk about it though, at least didn’t back when I watched his program a few years back. He’s very unassuming and even when he knows a lot on the subject he asks people and really listens to their answers… I like that guy. This Williams person always looked shady to me. He just has a fake face.

  8. Sugar says:

    Who watches the evening news anymore?

  9. nicegirl says:

    Lester Holt, FTW! I like Willie G in the mornings.

    Although I am not sure I believe in the ‘news’ broadcast here in the US anymore. It is more like watching the E Channel.

  10. QQ says:

    This is a Mess and a Shame cause he is rather Likeable on/off the news but to smooth fabricate stuff like that .. No!

    • Erinn says:

      I actually, have never watched him on the news before. I’m in NS and don’t have cable because I’m rarely home anyway. But he just has such a likable look! He has a friendly, handsome but not offputtingly so, put together look.

      The whole thing is a shame. He’s put himself into such a hole.

    • Belle Epoch says:

      QQ I liked BW and this makes me sad. Part of it could be making more exciting stories because that is “good tv.” Part of it could be he feels inadequate because he never made it through college. Part of it could be a trick of memory and conflating different impressions into one story. And the last part could be just self-aggrandizing. It’s like the Patriots – they cheated even though they didn’t have to. Weird thing to do when you’re already on top.

  11. Kiddo says:

    Biggest lie: That the live TV Peter Pan production was good. Harumph.

  12. kibbles says:

    I don’t believe this story or his Hurricane Katrina tale. What is funny is that I could totally imagine pretty boy Williams squealing in fright and freaking out if he were in the life/death situations he’s made up, or, if he ever came across a dead body – God-forbid – floating pass his 5-star hotel suite. He’s a narcissist and someone who would not willingly put his life on the line for a story, which is why he felt the need to make up dangerous situations.

  13. Hannah says:

    Wouldn’t be surprised. America and Israel are always trying to make Hezbollah look extreme when in reality, it isn’t if you look into it a little. They have condemned 9/11 and ISIS, plus they’re a Shi’ite group. At least not more extreme than America and Israel themselves. Just part of their propaganda, don’t know why anyone still trusts the media…

  14. scout says:

    Also heard that when he was younger, he told everybody he was mugged on the way back home from work with a gun held to his head. People in his hometown said it’s safe where they live and most probably he lied about that too!

    What the hell is wrong with this guy, think he loves to think himself as a hero to survive all that and come out the other end for attention. Nasty nasty guy.

    • FingerBinger says:

      It sounds like he’s a pathological liar.

    • anne_000 says:

      Yup. DM and NJ (dot) com has that story.

      Apparently he’s been telling this story repeatedly including to Esquire.

      From NJ(dot)com:

      “Williams has repeatedly claimed, including to Esquire magazine in 2005, that he was trying to help a local church by selling Christmas trees as a teenager in the 1970’s when a thief snatched his money on West Front Street and Riverside Avenue, Pagesix[dot]com reported.

      “That wasn’t a bad job, until a guy came up and stuck a .38-caliber pistol in my face and made me hand over all the money. Merry Christmas, right? Of course, I suddenly appreciated the other jobs I thought I hated,” William told New Jersey Monthly in 2008.”

      And then there are quotes from residents who don’t believe him and think he’s lying.

      From NJ (dot) com:

      “However, some longtime Red Bank residents told Pagesix[dot]com that they doubt the mugging ever happened.

      “I would highly doubt he’s telling the truth,” Danny Murphy, who ran Danny’s restaurant a few block from the alleged crime scene in the 1970’s, told the website. “I find it hard to believe anyone was held up in this area in the ’70s. It was very safe.”

      Les Carbone, 85, said that people should not listen to Williams.

      “He’s going to tell you a lot of things. I doubt he was robbed at gunpoint,” Carbone told the website. “I was born in Red Bank, there were no crimes like that. Tell Brian Williams to stop lying.”

  15. Tippy says:

    They might just be scratching the surface of Williams’ questionable recollections, most of which paint him as bigger, bolder and braver than he probably is in real life.

    He is however an excellent storyteller and is quite convincing.

    I don’t think NBC currently has anyone in-house that will be able to maintain the ratings lead that they had with Williams. I’ve heard George Stephanopoulos name mentioned as a possibility.

  16. Annika says:

    Don’t know why some people think he’s attractive.
    His face is as crooked as his “journalism.”

  17. Janet says:

    Is this guy living in an alternate reality or what?

  18. Sumodo says:

    When I was a reporter/anchor in Hartford, CT maaaannny moons ago, the man seeking to be Attorney General bragged about his Vietnam duty. There were Toys for Tots pics of him in Marines blue. He never went to Vietnam. Today, he is US Senator Richard Blumenthal, and was elected despite YEARS of lies. Williams will take a “sabbatical” and shake it off. BTW, both men are blond, blue-eyed, tall, and good looking. Yeah, the truth is flexible, eh?

  19. PunkyMomma says:

    The longer NBC and Brian Williams string this out, the stinkier it becomes. Williams should have resigned. Period. And NBC should have just accepted his resignation and given the job to Lester Holt. It says quite a bit about the lack of integrity at NBC that they’re still weighing their options. William’s credibility is compromised. Move on.

    • Birdix says:

      Agreed, completely. It’s clearly a financial decision–suits debating who will draw the most viewers, contracts, etc., and it is unseemly. You’d think they’d learn how to fire someone, spin it, and move on quickly after Anne Curry.

  20. Triple Cardinal says:

    Before annointing Lester Holt, it would be a good idea for someone to do some due diligence on him beforehand. What are the chances he has something dodgy in HIS background? He’s a grown man; trust me, there’s gotta be something.

    And FFS, why can’t NBC find a female anchor? Must I always see–yes, I watch the nightly news–this parade of male faces?

    • Sumodo says:

      Yes and yes. Just not CBS anchor failure Katie Couric. Or, Megyn “White Santa” Kelly. Hoda Kotb needs to put her hard news shoes back on. NBC fills top spots only from within.

      • Birdix says:

        I liked Erica Hill when she was at CBS This Morning–but haven’t seen her since she was shoved off and joined Weekend Today.

  21. Amelie says:

    I saw a local PBS program yesterday. There was a panel discussion re: Brian Williams future by two former war correspondents who are currently teaching journalism and a PR guy. They all agreed that Williams has lost credibility and that there is no way for him to resume his anchor spot at NBC. One of them suggested that Brian will transition to writing a book and doing specials…

  22. aang says:

    I have not watched nightly news in about 20 years. I really have no idea who this guy is or why people are surprised by this story. News became entertainment a long time ago.

    • Annika says:

      Exactly.

    • Trashaddict says:

      The thing that killed nightly news for me was the movie “Broadcast News”. Haven’t looked at TV journalism the same since. We have a serious cult of personality problem in this country.

  23. anne_000 says:

    From DM:

    “In a Youtube video, he told a report for the student-run News 64 channel: ‘I have been very lucky to survive a few things. I tend to forget the war with Hezbollah in Israel a few years back.
    ‘There were Katyusha rockets passing just underneath the helicopter I was riding in.’
    However, the fleeting reference does not tally with his own NBC report, dated July 18, 2006.
    […]
    New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd wrote that news bosses were told last year his claims sometimes did not stack up, and that his tendency to exaggerate had become ‘a joke’ among NBC staffers.”

    He boasted that he was almost killed in Israel by the Katyusha rockets.

    I’d say that was a pretty big lie.

    Even the NBC staffers think he’s a joke. If they think this, then why put him onto the public like he’s credible? Very shady.

  24. Jayna says:

    I want the truth to come out, but I think it’s easy to dump on him with sources and out of the woodwork lots of stories that are false.

    I am not a fan of him. My go-to news watching is CBS. I watch their nightly news anchor, Scott Pelley. Love him.

    But I hate dumping on someone with many unsubstantiated stories because it’s easy and then it turns out many were not even true. The first story is damning in and of itself, and he may very well have have exaggerated other stories. It’s not far-fetched But I will wait for confirmed stories. I just don’t like a gang mentality of destroying someone with just stories. Let them investigate or interview real sources on other stories.

    • Amelie says:

      I am also a fan of Scott Pelley, but stuff has been happening at CBS too. Sheryl Attkison was a great investigative reporter at CBS…she reported alot on the Fast & Furious and Benegazi incidents for example. She left CBS because of pressure exerted by the Obama administration thru CBS higher-ups to get her to ‘stand down’ on her investigation and reporting of these and other incidents which were potentially damaging to the Obama administration. There is a real issue with the network news as a whole being less concerned about their role as journalists (whose role is to investigate and report news) and more concerned about PR with the government and/or advertisers. I think CBS is still better than the other networks who tend to do more a entertainment oriented ‘news’ program.

    • anne_000 says:

      The flooding of the French Quarters that he’s told wasn’t true. That has been substantiated.

      Nobody but him saw a dead body floating in that area because there wasn’t enough flooding there for any dead bodies to float down the streets. That has been substantiated with photos taken at the time and eye-witness reporting from other journalists. Unless of course, the body BW saw could have been really really thin, like a candy wrapper being transported by rain water into the sewers before anybody else had a chance to see it.

      Iirc, there was nobody else who saw gangs going into the hotel full of reporters. You’d think this story would have been reported by more than just one reporter.

      The stories he tells about his near-death experiences in Iraq and Israel were contradicted by himself when he retold his story with embellishments. It’s substantiated by going through his various renditions at different blogs and interviews. Basically, he’s established that he can’t keep his stories straight.

      The story about his getting a .38 in his face when he sold Xmas trees for a church has been denounced by some residents of that town he said it took place in. I guess he can try to substantiate his story by showing a police report… unless of course he says that all the police files were destroyed by terrorist rockets that flew inches by his face as he left the police station.

      The story about him saving one puppy (in one story), then two puppies (in another story) when he was a volunteer fireman could be substantiated if he brought in fellow volunteers that were there during his ‘heroic’ actions. You’d think there’d be witnesses, especially at a fire surrounded by other firemen.

      I think BW is making it too easy for people to figure out his big stories of life-threatening and/or heroic actions weren’t true or unsubstantiated. When he told his various Walter Mitty stories, he should have kept to one script instead of ’embellishing’ them or making them up altogether.

      I don’t blame anybody for catching him in his lies or looking back to see whatever lies he’s told. That’s the consequence of his own actions, not anybody else’s.

      • anne_000 says:

        DM has an article out now with an interview of the manager of the New Orleans hotel that BW was staying at during Hurricane Katrina. She was there during that time too. She says BW must be ‘misremembering’ his story about the dead body, the degree of flooding in the French Quarter, the gangs invading the hotel, and the dysentery he alleges he got. She basically shot down all his claims.

        The article also has a list of some of his debunked stories.

        Another DM story says that he’s been suspended for six months, without pay, and effective immediately. NBC execs say that he harmed NBC’s credibility.