Here are some photos of Keira Knightley and Benedict Cumberbatch at Monday evening’s TimesTalk, a discussion sponsored by the NYT and TIFF. They were there to talk about The Imitation Game and Alan Turing, obviously, although they did talk about a few personal things too. Fashion note: Keira’s dress is Alexander Lewis. Here’s the video of the TimesTalk:
It’s so long, I’ll admit that I just skipped around but around the 45 minute mark, Benedict and Keira started talking about the paparazzi. I liked Benedict here because he just sat back and let Keira talk passionately about feminism and ingrained misogyny in tabloid culture. Keira talked about when she was younger and being under paparazzi surveillance, saying:
“Having 20 to 30 men who you don’t know on a 24-hour surveillance outside your house calling you a ‘whore’ every time you leave the door to try to get a reaction from you is quite a difficult thing to deal with. It was a time when there was a lot of money for pictures of women crying or of women in some state of undress. You’d walk down the street and you’d have men trying to get under your skirt to take pictures up your skirt and all the time calling you a ‘whore’ or all the time spitting at you or all the time trying to get a reaction from the guy you were with because it would make the price of that photograph quadruple.”
Cumberbatch summed up it pretty well when he said, “It’s just disgusting behavior.”
Fortunately, Knightley said things are “completely different” for her now.
“I think there’s a certain point where you get married, you get pregnant and they’re like, ‘Hey, she’s not going out and getting drunk,'” said Knightley, who is expecting her and hubby James Righton’s first baby. “I think there is a level that you grow out of it.”
She goes on for a while past that and it’s all pretty interesting. Then around the 50 minute mark, the moderator says to Bendy, “Congratulations, your personal life has changed recently.” Benedict jokingly says, “Has it?” And looks sort of sheepish and happy. He’s asked if it feels like his crazy fandom has started to “ebb” and he says “I’m going to stick around” and that he wants to keep acting “into my dotage.” He also says: “I’m not interested in being the man of the moment, I’m interested in longevity…. Ebbing, who cares?”
Photos courtesy of WENN, Getty.
The issue is with his recent behavior, the ebbing is happening to his fans that aren’t obsessive with him or blindly follow him.
I was fond of him for the most part. I enjoy him as Sherlock. I like his voice. But this whole mess has really pushed me back. I kind of at best side-eye all of this. It’s like groan inducing at this point – he managed to take a relatively quiet but good PR style and make it blow up so quickly.
^This. I adored him until he sold his soul to Harvey. It killed My Otter love for him.
I really don’t believe Harvey had much to do with this train wreck. Ben just got tangled up with a most inappropriate woman. Sophie brought him down in what, five months?
I don’t know, moodgirl. There’s photos of them together at the French Open in June – we don’t really know how long they’d been dating before this went into a full on nose-dive. It might be her. Who knows. It’s definitely odd though.
According to SH or BC friend/family (can’t recall which, it was at the time of the engagement) said the romance took off in the summer, even later summer. So I’m guessing they were dating occasionally before that. Then, according to said friend, they fell in love, and he (the friend) had never known BC so happy. SH and BC were madly in love, which is why they decided to get engaged.
But then it became apparent that she got pregnant around August time, so it’s pretty difficult to tell the lies from the truth.
Famous people lose fans all the time. Fans help with longevity.
I hope he just goes back to being a really great and respected actor after this awards season is over. All this crazy attention is looking over the fact that he is truly one of the most talented up and coming actors out there.
I think he is a really solid character actor (or supporting in blockbuster type films, like in STID) and could have a great career long term. But his recent shennigans are no beuno, he is trying to be a Clooney or Pitt type leading man and he just does not have “it” imho. Runs away in fear!
Agree. IMHO he’s much more of a talent than Pitt or Clooney but he’s not going to be a “star.” He should embrace it.
I agree. He doesn’t have the looks or charisma to be a leading man, at all. He should stick to character roles/ensembles. He is in no way a ‘Movie Star’ or leading man material.
I agree with you. I don’t think he’s the most talented actor out there, though he is very good. His charisma is of a kind that you need to discover for yourself; to say, “who was that fantastic guy playing the second lead/villain/etc.?” and then want to go seek out his other work. As opposed to having him shoved at you as The Greatest Thing, as he and the media have been doing to us for a year now. He can definitely carry a TV show, but something goes wrong when he tries to sell himself as a leading man. It just … isn’t him. On him it comes off as overreaching. He needs to be a quiet star and a scene-stealer, or a steady theater actor.
His looks are another problem. I think he is quite beautiful (or was—he’s not aging that well and recently looks miserable and older than his years), but let’s face it, a significant proportion of people have the opposite reaction. He needs to realize that that is not going to change and that he’s not the Sexiest Man Alive, despite what Tumblr says. His looks will work against him if he tries to take on a romantic lead or, really, anything but a hero or historical role like ones he’s already done.
He also needs to stop believing his press. He’s becoming insufferable in real life. I was a huge fan of his, but I haven’t watched or read an interview with him since last summer, when he started acting like a vain d-bag, and he’s only gotten worse since.
I personally think he has a lot more to learn and develop his acting skills before he can truly call himself a character actor because as far as I can see he’s only been playing the same type of socially awkward but intelligent characters. If he truly wants that Oscar he should go for strong supporting roles instead of leads.
On the whole I agree, but wait — have you seen August: Osage County? Smaller part but quite different and he nailed it. He was adorable, with depth. He should choose more diverse roles (like this one) if he wants to prove that he is, in fact, a very good actor.
He is a good actor – I love him in bit parts and as a leading man. He seems like a lovely man.
I LOVED the imitation game. I’m sure neither Cumberbatch or Keira will win at the Oscars but that is a film I’d watch again unlike Still Alice or Wild.
I’m sure Keira will have her moment eventually and she really is a lovely lady.
And Cumberbatch is such a talented actor. I wish them all the best.
Mm hmm yeah honey such serious actorness much disinterest.
I believe there is a direct relationship between Benedict Cumberbatch threads and the collapse of the MBTA here in Massachusetts.
I hear it is lovely on Hoth this time of year. I would go there for a vacation if I could only get to the airport.
Lol, I have been slipping into strong dislike for this guy. Now I have a target for my ire as I ride a shuttle bus.
Homebound since Monday due to ice. And now we have snow on top of the ice, and subzero temps coming through. Googling pictures of Aruba. But you are in the Northeast Lilac? You have my sympathies. I could not cope.
I am in Boston. Land of the ice and snow. We scoff at Antartica these days. And BC was here last summer. I do believe he jinxed our transit system, as I pile on long underwear and put footwarmers in my boots before heading for whatever ordeal awaits me on the T today.
The MBTA’s collapse is complete! It will never be president!
And neither will any of the idiots who governed over it. Although I think Romney should have to install his noise-polluting Charlie machines in all his bathrooms; just so Ann can endure what he inflicted on all of us.
Lilac, don’t even bring it up… I am taking the cab everyday to work this week (no B or C line for me). You just gave me a terrific idea… Let’s blame on Cumberbatch! Lol
Orange line, where only 40% of the trains are operating in comparison to at least 60% on all others.
The c and b lines are not working past Kenmore and on Monday they were not working period! My roommate walked almost 5 miles to his office and emailed us to let us know he didn’t see any green line operating on Monday morning at kenmore. There are no trains operating as I am going to work. So i would take 40% over nothing. I honestly think that anyone who pays for the monthly pass should get the March pass for free or a nice discount.
I’ve been using buses 71 and 1. 1 was a nightmare though because everyone is using it instead of the Red Line.
Have you seen the Boston Yeti? I had coffee with him at Diesel.
The bOston yeti?? Is he a nice yeti, or not so much?? Lol
I salute you ladies. I’m in the deepest of the Deep South(27 last night, brrrr). Every ten or fifteen years we get about a quarter inch of snow and EVERYTHING shuts down. The schools! The businesses! Complete panic. On the other hand, during summer our humidity is about 175%, so there’s that. Keep strong.
But MissM that’s only 40% in the areas where the Orange line is running. It isn’t operating on its northern or southern sectors at all.
Miss jupitero: I haven’t seen him, but his photos are hysterical!
You had coffee with him?! Awesome!
Y’all just need to hop a cab to Davis and put few down at Sligo.
Also an orange line passenger. It has been awful. I may be at Wellington for a bit, sigh.
I’ll be thrilled if I can even get to Wellington. And it wouldn’t surprise me if people get pushed into the tracks some night at Downtown Crossing.
Nauru and lilac: good luck getting the train and be safe!
I drove to work today. It’s a heck of a lot easier than taking the red line.
@Green Eyes, I drove to a doctor’s appointment yesterday. What should have been at most a 15 minute ride took over an hour.
He strikes again! Snow is falling!
perfect comment.
Google him right now (as I’m positive he does on a regular basis), majority that comes up in the first page is his personal life.
That’s on him and his team. Hopefully he learns from this and just goes back to his work. No one here is saying he shouldn’t get married, shouldn’t have a baby etc but he’s brought his personal life right into focus during the busiest time of his career, that is on him.
Keira is fab as always.
Keira is a goddess. She and BC are pretty much in the same position at the moment: Oscar nominated, financially successful film, married and expecting their first child. The difference in behavior, however, is truly staggering. Keira is happy, BC seems ready to jump of the cliff.
It would have been a lot easier to handle if he had just taken her to the red carpet as girlfriend, announced pregnancy during the holidays and gotten married. Now his whole campaign has been about Sodious. Ugh..
I was truly shocked how old he looks in that interview. It’s like he has aged 10 years since BAFTAs. Married life seems to suit him…
I know BC deserves all the side eye, but I do feel sorry for him. His life got turned upside down by SH and I think he’s truly beyond caring about these interviews and his image and fans at this point. He seems tired, depressed, angry and only does the absolute minimum to support the film (aka sit through these interviews and say what comes to his mind).
If she stole his stuff while sleeping and impregnated herself then yes I may possibly feel sorry for him.
I feel for him because he appears to have lived a sheltered life, is a poor judge of character, is naive and a bit dumb and obviously has more hangers-on than people willing to look out for him.
I really don’t understand all the ire being thrown at him. He got his girlfriend pregnant and they got married. For some reason, the public is finding this fascinating (which I really can’t fathom). I don’t see that as his fault. *Baffled*
He tried to make it into something that it wasn’t, hence, the backlash. Granted he was desperately trying to save his reputation but he should have just done what Ingrid said above and been done with it. If he had put as much effort and energy into promoting TIG and honoring Alan Turing’s memory he may have had a chance at a few awards but I honestly believe people got sick of the flying circus.
LOL the only “people” that genuinely care about any of this are his hard core fans. His fans are freaking out – they’re either rapturously happy or bitterly disappointed – but your average consumer of celeb gossip is indifferent to mildly interested.
I think what most of us are upset by is (1) the constant whining about people invading his privacy whilst he simultaneously pimps out his personal life for the Oscar campaign, and (2) the nonstop insults to the fans who he spent the last few years constantly hitting up for donations for charity and for his vanity film (which he pretty much stole from the director). He’s a f***ing hypocrite and a crybaby.
Me personally, as I said its not those things, its the fact he acts completely innocent and affronted when it’s suggested that he is using them for PR and to get his name out there, which he plainly is. Ive no problem with campaigning, but you should own it. Eddie Redmayne is a good example of how to do it well.
You mean, as someone said, Eddie Redcarpet? He’s everywhere and I’m sick of him.
What i mean Moodgirl is that Eddie isn’t going around balking at the very suggestion he is campaigning and banging on about privacy invasion. Ben hasn’t stopped doing this since day 1.
Cumberbatch was afraid that somebody might ask him during his campaign why there was a baby out of wedlock. So he married her and tried to use this move for pr.
He could have also said something like “Welcome to the 21st century, reporter”.
There is no need to marry before a child is born. There is no need to marry, period. But some people still believe they should, and even if to some that is being old fashioned and conservative, we all have a right to be however we like. The fact he tries to come across as not conservative when he just showed the whole world that having a child before marriage is not acceptable (to him), that’s another subject matter.
You know what I’ve thought? Let’s say he met someone he wants to have kids with. Would he marry first before finding out they could conceive, especially at her age? In other words do you see him staying married to a woman who couldn’t give him kids? I can’t say yes. So I think he was always going to knock her up first. I’m not sure he planned for it to happen so soon and he was likely not even sure if it should be with her unless he is mad or that disgustingly desperate for a trophy. Or again…I return to the surrogate theory. It explains why she hates him touching her.
No. If that’s the case everyone would get pregnant before marrying. I think he had a fling with a woman who made herself available early in the game and he got caught. If he intended for this to happen, even if he wanted to wait until later, we would not have witnessed him almost falling apart. Honestly, I think Sophie got the best of him.
“Do you see him staying married to a woman who couldn’t give him kids?” Do you see him staying married to a nutty bit**?
Claire, if that’s what happened he would been happy in November.
I love Keira’s dress ! She looks amazing.
She looks so, so gorgeous in her pregnancy. She’s truly glowing, and her hair looks so great. Keira is such a lovely woman, I’ve always been a big fan.
Reading what she depicts about getting your photos taken…how is this legal to do something like this to someone? You can file a lawsuit for less no ? You take away the cameras, It’s just straight up harrasment .
I think she was talking about the time she was younger..probably 10 years ago.
The legislation were different to what they are now. Despicable that was.
I don’t know if thing are that different. There was a local Kentucky tv news interview with Jennifer Lawrence’s parents couple of years ago and her dad was almost crying when he talked about her experience with the paparazzi when she went to London for the Baftas. They were shouting awful things to her trying to get a reaction and swarmed her on street after some party and shoved her so she fell and got bruised.
I’m imagining myself in that position and I can picture myself crying and only going out surrounded my massive bodyguards. I never knew it was so deplorable and scary.
@Cici: is there video of that? Because that’s assault. I will never defend paps but that sounds exaggerated. And I thought the UK passed some more laws about this in the past couple years didn’t they?
You are all disgusted?
Now think of Suri.
Yes there is video where grown men are calling her a B***h.
And Kate not protecting her at all.
There is video where Suri is asking them to stop whilst Kate just stands there smiling.
Then think of all the resulting protos where grown adults (and perhaps some teens) kept saying that Suri was a brat.
On a different subject, one of the paps who tailed Prince Harry said they would shout really nasty, vile, things at Chelsy to get her to react. Stuff that rhymes with rock and whether she liked it any number of ways.
To her credit she never reacted, but Harry started to react and punch some of them which made the situation worse. One of the paps even admits to deliberately tripping him up for a better pic.
The resultant pictures ALWAYS have comments that they are proof of Harry’s wild ways. Nevermind that he is reacting to whatever vile thing has been shouted at him or his GF.
Agreed. I remember once watching a video of Britney Spears just trying to walk from the door of a club to the car, the paparazzis were basicly pushing cameras in her face, blocking her physically, towering all around her. Big men. No wonder celebrities punch paparazzis. I’ve never hit anybody in my life but I’m not sure how I’d get out of that situation without trying to punch my way through. I’d be scared.
Edit: And Keira even said they are trying to cross some minimal line to get a reaction. If they get punched or their camera broken: mo-ney! Sickening.
It’s strange that he is making any type of comment on his personal feeling or opinions cause you know how intensely private he is and only his true fans will respect that…….
Yep, he doesn’t want to be a man of the moment. All that famewhoring off the back of one film with the hope of winning a statue was done for career longevity, to build career goodwill and showcase his integrity & professionalism……
Christ, everything that comes out of his mouth in the past few mouth has been in direct conflict with his actual behaviour. But then I guess that happens with most actors that have his level of success and are on the cusp of the A list – they all start believing the hype about themselves and their entitled, narcissistic true self comes out and the hypocrisy is blatant.
Agreed 100%
Eh gotta be fair, grabbing that nom and getting visibility can be part of a longevity strategy if you’re ambitious. The days of getting parts on merit are pretty much gone with the globalization of media, self-marketing is the edge.
Did you ever think that maybe he’s always been exactly this way? That his humble, modest, quiet PR strategy was just that: a strategy?
That’s what bewilders me the most about all this angst. It means that everyone really, truly bought into the fact that this public figure was being 100% honest and forthcoming, showing every aspect of his genuinely sweet personality. I don’t believe that about ANYONE, let alone famous entertainers.
@Brittney B – I think that’s why everyone has been shocked ever since. His public persona/image made an 180 degree turn.
But no, BC actually thinks it’s because he, gasp!, got engaged, announced pregnancy and then got married on V’s Day. He is just a victim of us all and would like more cupcake toppers, thank you very much.
I agree with you on public figures, Brittney B, they’re all hiding something. As long as it isn’t Bill Cosby-bad, I’m not real concerned.
In his case, there’s a trail of him before he got a real rep that’s pretty consistent with him until before the campaign, so no, he hasn’t always been like this. Actors doing a 180 for an Oscar campaign is incredibly common. They may throw out mixed messages if they’re having issues with whatever it is they’re supposed to be doing.
He is a good actor, character actor. I loved Sherlock S1/2 but they lost me on the 3rd. I think they have been bigging him up for a while and he has started to believe the hype. He needs to think before he speaks, refrain from talking about his private life IF he doesn’t want people asking about it, he needs to vary his roles as he plays (to me) the same kind of person and he doe that weird thing with his mouth like he’s going to cry, same with Parade’s End, same with TIG. I liked that film I had no intention of paying my £10 but someone I knew wanted to go and that’s the only thing that was playing, but it didn’t wow me. I didn’t leave and think about it after, I’d actually like Tinker Tailor better and that one had an old guy next to me snoring in the cinema, was a better story and of course I love Gary O. Like someone said in another post, the love affair has ended… I can see the forest for the trees now I can move on.
I think he is talented enough (a bit hammy for me, I prefer more low key performances as a rule). But it’s hard to be blown away by TIG having seen a couple episodes of Sherlock. And I think he should just own his hustle. He’s obviously been gunning for awards attention and a career boost at the very least. And there’s no shame in that. Man’s gotta work. It’s part of the job. But yeah, maybe someone with a very low key campaign like Keaton could say this and I might believe them, but not this guy who has been everywhere.
Lord there was twitter drama last night and this morning. I wish they stayed engaged longer since the wedding wouldn’t have been shilled for the Oscars. Who knows? He also could’ve acted like a man and not a child about it in the beginning so people wouldn’t side eye the relationship. I’m sick of the divide in the fan base because the media will use that after the loss
What Twitter drama?
I just flew in from LA (15hour flight) and seem to have missed everything! (even the fact the married)
A wedding guest was lashing out at skeptics then locked his twitter.
Just one person left a snarky comment. He responded and then decided to attack Sogo who hadn’t tweeted anything towards him.
@Felice – Why would this guest even engage? How childish.
So he knows who SoGo is, ha. I’m really not surprised anymore, this whole thing has exposed everyone’s level of immaturity (especially those personally involved – BC, SH and their guests/employees).
A “truther” loon tweeted accused him of “enjoying that stream of income” and he called them crazy and then said something about “Love is just love” and to remember that “no matter how famous someone may be, they have blood and bone”. He got several tweets and SoGo was included in the reply because someone included her tag.
I agree, he should’ve just blocked/ignore them from the get-go.
All of them sound like a middle school nightmare.
No Toodles. He replied to the person, attacked several truthers, then deleted. He also locked his account for a few hours then reopened and did the same thing to nannies except he was complimentary.
As I said in the last thread, a very childish, weird and attention seeking little man.
I think we all know that tweeting odd stuff to people is crazy, but replying in your own desperate little attempt to grab some drama out of a situation which he he no business commenting on, is just weird.
What an insufferable bunch of people. Honestly.
A headsup: people who went through Matthew Siskin (Gambles) twitter saw he has a long history of getting into fights with anyone who disagrees with him. So another narcissist.
That includes, among many other examples ,fighting with a lot of Beyonce’s fans when he was handling her image or whatever it was he did for her. He then deleted his tweets shortly after like he did now.
He also goes “Unfollow me :)” like a 12 year old. He clearly doesn’t realize that this generation of fan bases (BC and Beyonce alike) is so sick of being belittled by “higher ups” that the concept of screengrabbing is all the rage. He can’t hide by deletion anymore.
Even Beyonce stans know that her image is carefully manufactured and make fun of her baby bump collapsing on TV. Whenever she talks about her pregnancy, they’re like “Mhmm, Bey.”
TY, everyone, for clueing me in.
I admit that if someone said (to me directly) something untrue about a friend I might respond. But not like this. Best way to respond? SILENCE. Do not give them any more wood for the fire. But no, some 30 year old people are still stuck in their dramatic teens.
I think CumberbatchWeb should step down. She is taking things personally and is taking sides. She goes on and on about how crazy the skeptics are. But not how crazy and obsessed Benophie Daily/AnythingBatch/Cumberbuddy and others are. I am sorry, but fans going to Karon’s office (for any reason) is CRAZY. CumberbatchWeb should remain neutral when it comes to Benedict’s “personal/private” life. She is Pro-Sophie and kisses her ass. There was no need for her to involve herself in the “Gambles drama” she is not friends with him.
And Benedict’s team needs to tell Cumberbuddy to stop acting like she is Benedict’s “best friend/bodyguard.” She has gone off the rails. She is sharing that pic of Benedict flashing his Wedding ring, saying that they are “winning/on the winning side.” WTF? Seriously? She is talking to Gambles like they are buddies.
“Cumberbuddy @designedmemory Don’t let the bastards grind you down. BC&S won’t be. Who’s winning here? 😜”
@Linz
I would marry you but people would think it was for an Oscar 😉
No one is winning. Neither side knows what is really going on with him.
Cumberbuddy is awful. She used to appear relatively normal, but all this has exposed her to be a total nut.
She doesn’t know anything about him and to him she’s yet another unwanted crazy fan who turns up to most things he appears at.
Naomi at Cumberbatchweb is also just a super fan who decided to start a fansite. Now and again, his office send confirmations of certain things because she has a wide reach on Twitter etc. that’s it. She doesn’t know them and never will. They’re just loopy fans and cumberbuddy certainly seems to have lost all sense of normality at all.
Actually way back at Hay Fest, CumberbatchWeb tweeted from her personal account about SH at Letters Live. She said “ridiculous amount of hair flipping.” I doubt that she’s head over heels for SH, but she can’t admit that now. She’ll wait it out and see what happens like everybody else.
@tsmiv2
She also said that the hair flipping was glorious/epic (something like that) She asked people if they knew her (Sophie’s) name.
I am not saying that CumberbatchWeb is head over heels for Sophie. But she is Pro-Sophie and she does kiss her ass.
EDIT: wrong place.
Attention? Idk but he really should’ve just ignored it.
He was ready with a scripted answer to the question whether his fans are leaving him now that he accidentally knocked someone up and had a shotgun wedding. Interesting. Interesting.
I think a lot of his “fans” are leaving because everytime we turn around, sites–like (cough)– are featuring an article on him EVERY SINGLE DAY AND SOMETIMES TWICE A DAY!!! Okay so he is a good actor–but he is not a god and should not be on a pedestal! Even HE is starting to believe all these obsessed people! And a lot of us are getting so tired of all these articles being posted just so they can post pics for the fans. ENOUGH ALREADY!
But, is it really his fault if Celebitchy posts about him every day? It is not like I see stuff about him on every single site, just the ones that were already obsessed about him.
We’re not required to read anything on CB. If you’re not interested don’t open the thread.
Well, after a 2 week holiday in the US I’m back and catching up with BC’s Soap Opera:
1. Now that they’re married maybe the conversation can go away until his team leaks the birth.
2. If he sold the pictures, he is an idiot. And cannot believe so much information made it to the tabloids before the actual date of the wedding right after accusing fans of not being “true fans” for being interested in his soap-opera-style personal life.
3. There is no way SH is less than 6 to 7 months pregnant.
4. I can’t believe their expressions. For someone so intent on changing the conversation and his public persona, he seems to have chosen to portray themselves as a sad, bored, uncomfortable couple. I’m not saying they should smile like crazy for the papps, but maybe show a little bit of happiness (unless they’re not happy, which is how they come accross unless it’s work, but he has made his whole personal life – including her – part of his job, so suck it up BC and SMILE. It’s not so hard)
5. I flew out of LA the moment they flew in and have 2 observations to make: 1. the papps gathered were minimal, nobody was looking out for them. 2. After a 15 hour flight from LA to my city, I cannot even beging to understand how tired SH must feel, even if she flies 1st class. For someone so heavily pregnant, being on a transcontinental flight, coupled with the 8-9 hour difference, must be a pain. I hope she is resting.
And Keira’s story is appaling. People are not emotionless pieces of meat to be treated like that.
I’m surprised at the volume of stuff that has leaked about the wedding, both before and after. If he hadn’t made such a big song and dance about privacy I would bat an eyelid but .. well he did.
It would have been a refreshing change for him to just appear this week, married and no one to have heard anything about it.
I’m sure they could have made all the vendors sign confidentiality agreements…but they didn’t. The Times knew all the incidentals before, in addition to every tabloid. All the info screams PR leaks. Hell, getting married a week before the Oscars is yelling PR from the rooftops.
And he complains about privacy. Yeah right. Go away, Ben. Just go away.
eh gotta say other celebs have had confidentiality agreements but vendors leaked anyway. thats because you can’t sue them unless they are massive vendors without looking like an asshole. big rich celeb steps on little guy
Lindy, my fear is that Ben somehow won’t go away after the Oscars. I would love to see him go dark until the baby announcement and go back there until the Black Mass premier, but it may be wishful thinking with all the famewhoring choices he’s made the past few months.
He’ll disappear by default. Hell, even if he doesn’t willingly, he’ll end in a hospital going by the way he looks. His promo contract should terminate the day after the Oscars.
There is no way that the press weren’t tipped off about this wedding. It’s very easy to keep these things quiet. If one wants to.
I mean, c’mon..The orders of service even appeared online.
Vendors I can see how that got on, but the venue was confirmed the day or two before. The Times printed it as fact, implying it had been confirmed.
But, the order of service, who in the hell leaked that!? If they asked their friends not to post anything they’d have been shitty to go ahead and do it anyway, hell I’ve been to weddings where they specifically ask not to post pictures to social media because the couple just aren’t into that or the vicar asks for no photos during the ceremony.
@Kat – Very true. There were all sorts of leaks about the wedding, what, weeks ago? “Someone” tweeting that BC and SH were on the Isle of Wight shopping around for a wedding venue, some of their friends tweeting about going to England for the wedding weekend. *Everyone* knew about the wedding well before it happened.
Don’t forget Benedict’s stylist baiting/dropping hints.
Well, no idea what happened myself exactly, Kat, but it’s not as easy as people think to keep celeb weddings quiet. It’s easier for ones with more money and press clout than he has atm.
Press may have received notice of a phototag ban in advance, since that’s how it’s usually done if security thinks the location is now known. Otherwise your private security can’t ask them to leave on public or mixed property.
The other details, like the service order, would be something a person could get by hanging around the area afterwards, but quite frankly, in general, social media hands a lot of stuff to papers these days.
okay they totally could have leaked it all, idk, but the stylist seemed like he trying to play the same game rhodes does. his Tweets were too vague to give anything anyway tbh
green eyes, the someone is a nosy ferryman whose twitter was filled with people’s convos Lol. imo none of that stuff, the friends tweets, whatever, would have ever caught any attention without people on tumblr searching for these people and watching them
Well, the first point about how easy it is to keep weddings private, the first pointer to it not being geared towards privacy is the timing. He knows the media scrutiny is high around him so close to the Oscars. Leaving it just a couple of weeks more, attention would’ve died down.
And a small wedding would’ve been pretty easy to facilitate as private. The press didn’t wake up one day and decide to travel to the Isle of Wight. The media were baiting this for ages.
As for the service order, if bc was going to so much trouble as to keep the whole thing quiet..security etc, I can’t see the SOs being carelessly left around for the members of the public to later come in and pick up.
J,
There wasn’t anything vague about what the stylist was doing. His Twitter was full of bc, even his header pic and he knew that he was expected to marry soon. So to start talking about wedding outfit fittings?… Total tool.
As for the ferryman, I’m not sure that was the case. When his first tweet (a question) was received with ‘how do you know he’s looking for wedding venues’? He said ‘I don’t. Just guessing’. I also think that if that was the case and bc was discussing wedding venues loud enough for the public to hear?…hmmm.
With regards to the tweets gaining attention because people are watching them, well most of the people tweeting this stuff know full well they’re being watched.
@Kat
That’s similar to Christmas when he was telling random people he was there for his fiance’s family and that her ears hurt.
@J
90-95% percent of his (Benedict’s stylist) Tweets are about Benedict.
His stylist Tweeted:
(Feb 6) pic of Benedict’s new swim shorts (Tags: wintersun LA)
(Feb 9) 2 bespoke shirts in less than 24 hours
(Feb 11) Fittings for a group of very special guys.
He changed his header photo (vintage black and white Wedding photo) He was baiting Benedict’s fans/dropping hints.
How can anyone believe that the stylist could bait people on twitter without BC allowing him to? I mean, if BC were so intent on privacy as he claims to be, his stylist would not risk losing a very lucrative job for the sake of baiting. So, it means, that all these leaks have BC’s stamp of approval.
kat, it was vague. we already knew an engaged guy was getting married, going to LA for the oscars. Nothing gave away location or even outfits really. his “baiting” was something we already knew
and that ferryman is full of it, lol. he had other tweets about people’s convos on his account. the media never caught wind of that at that time either
look, all i am saying is why leak but freeze out legit outlets like people and vanity fair? that’s just dumb. kneepads would have gladly ran an article with anon sources every 20 mins if they’d been brought in directly, so same impact, and youd have more control over it plus less false info floating about
whoever leaked it wasn’t professional if that’s the case
There’s rumors it’s because the rags know dirt so they’re trying to bribe them with exclusives.
J,
A stylist who tweets almost exclusively about bc, a few days before the rumoured wedding day tweets about a fitting for wedding suits for a grooms party. I don’t know how that’s not baiting.
And the media DID have all the details on the wedding.
I’m not saying that was a result of indiscreet and attention seeking twitterers, but that’s certainly not going to help, is it? Everyone is well aware of the power of social media.
Because of all the publicity and shilling, the marriage will already be on the rocks. The first year is a delicate time.
Add a baby you didn’t plan for into the mix and it gets even more complicated.
Marrying a person you don’t really know just makes it worse.
Sophie’s joy at starring in her own personal version of “La Dolce Vita” more than makes up for the pregnancy fatigue.
And MtnRunner: he’s doing a little thing called “Hamlet” between the baby announcement and the Black Mass premiere, remember?
I didn’t expect there to be as much promo around Hamlet, since theatre doesn’t have the marketing budget that films have (and it’s sold out). I wouldn’t expect any interviews until July though. For some reason, I thought BM was opening in early summer. Since it’s premiering during the Hamlet run, I doubt he’ll be attending any of the events.
The Nannies are going crazy. There is a picture of Benedict (big smile on his face) flashing his Wedding Ring on Kimmel. I haven’t seen him smile like that around Sophie.. lol
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2958439/Newlywed-Benedict-Cumberbatch-proudly-shows-wedding-ring-time-appears-Jimmy-Kimmel-Live.html
The smugness is putting regular fans off. Regular fans really don’t care if he’s married. It’s only nannies who care.
I’ll be positive: He looks nice. The outfit looks good. Hair well groomed though I do prefer the curls myself.
He’s holding that finger up like it’s his middle finger. Also, TFOE has a photo of him seated and smiling and he’s beyond Sherlock skinny and into unhealthy gaunt territory.
thats normal, he’s so awkward with his hands lol
but yeah he doesn’t look healthy at all, and this is coming from someone who likes his acting but doesn’t care about his looks. i was surprised by how sickly he looks recently
it looks like he’s saying…look Harvey, I actually DID IT!!!
Now put This up your @$$
He’s a liar.
He’s whored himself out every which way this season and it will all be naught, he’s not winning.
While I may have never understood the obsession so many of ya’ll have with him, he’s a good actor, and a perfect example of how talent/character can overcome fugliness (well if you’re a man anyway in the industry).
He very much cares about being the man of the hour, it just blew up in his face.
/is Fassy ever goes this route, ugh
Totally agree with everything!! I don’t get the obsession either. Ewwww!!
Fassy already did, back 2-3 years ago for Shame. Can’t blame him. Noms alone are decent career boosts. It’s not fair, just how it works.
Totally agree. If he didn’t care about being the man of the hour he wouldn’t have tried to capitalize on his private business. He knows that he is losing part of his fandom but I don’t know if he is smart enough to figure out that his shitty behavior is the reason why. It will take him a while to realize that the more intelligent fans are sick of him; it’s the crazies that he wishes he could get rid of that will hang around and fawn over him.
I can’t believe that he sat beside a heavily pregnant woman and *he* was the one to get up and cut it short because he needed the loo and couldn’t hold it for 5 more minutes… I hope Keira gave him a hard time about that. 😉
need to pee can be code for something else 🙂
i love potty humor sorry lol
Hahahaha! Possibly a dicky tummy after the flight.
Doesn’t bode well for the three hours Oscars.
On no but you’re desperate to be a Hollywood leading man like George and Brad, hence the shilling of your private life and mincing around like you an A Lister. Success and the plaudits have gone to his head and he’s become a smug. It’s only a matter of time before he turns on Sherlock and starts throwing shades at it – he’s got his eyes on the blockbuster movies.
I used to respect him but the desperate famewhoring of his private life to raise his profile during the awards season is just plain sad and has shown him to be insecure and egotistical with the best of them.
He has always wanted the fame.
Betti: I was skimming through your post and I thought you’d said “he’s become a SMAUG” LOL
Do we think he surrounds himself with his past awards, so he can sleep on his pile of dragon gold? At this point nothing would surprise me.
Maybe he tried to screw one of his cold, inanimate statues and accidentally fertilized Sophie.
He created the ebb himself by showing up everywhere with or without Sophie and jumping up and down on camera. Bendy, it’s your fault, DEAL Sir!
He was amazing in “The Imitation Game,” just wonderful.
I have never expected anything from Ben beyond a good performance worthy of the price of the movie ticket or the time I invested in watching a show. I’m not part of his personal life, I’ve never had the desire to date or bed him.
I will say though, I watched a bit of Sherlock and felt a change in my perception of him. It felt like the bombardment of his personal life bled in to me trying to watch from an enjoyment perspective.
I hope for his career longevity that post Oscars, he keeps his head down, prepares for Strange and Hamlet, and knocks both out of the park, not only because he is capable of delivering such performances, but to re-establish himself as a respected actor and not a dancing monkey. Tom did it Ben, you can too, and I will happily continue to watch and enjoy your talent.
If you would like fans to keep out of your personal life, you need to cease giving them access to it.
I’m sure Bendy will be fine. Everybody was pissy about Hiddles being too “in your face” a little while back (I couldn’t understand why). He disappeared for a bit and now everybody is up his a$$ again.
It’s Benedict’s time now. Enjoy your life Benedict and I do hope we get to see the baby at some point.
You aren’t seeing that child until he’s at uni.
Awww… you’re probably right.
Yep, I think you’re right Felice.
And I totally see now some blogs claiming that the child doesn’t even exist because you never see him/her and it’s all a big lie following the fake pregnancy. *lol*
But how on earth will SH market baby couture and $400 dollar baby blankets if they don’t sell baby pics to the tabs?
See Christina Aguilera on People cover and American Sniper.
Shame that so called fangirl jealousy is such a good whipping boy for his bitter, arrogant behavior lately.
*shrugs* Doesn’t matter that jealously isn’t the cause. Gossip blogs aren’t the good lord’s work.
If they can’t stand the guy or her or whatever, the normal thing to do is move on, at least for now. I don’t like oatmeal, but I don’t make myself eat it occasionally so I can complain about it.
Then why are you here? (Don’t worry. It’s a rhetorical question.)
Why would I worry? I don’t dislike him, haven’t Tweeted at his friends and don’t comment outside of here when I feel like it. There’s some interesting, civil mini-discussions on CB threads.
Wasn’t making his fans look looney part of the PR plan from the beginning?
which backfired since the real loons are sticking to him like moths to a light.
My biggest beef with Bendy is his inability to own his desire to go big in Hollywood and be a poshie A-lister. He says one thing and does another… repeatedly. He used his personal life to garner more attention this awards season, but complains about invasions of privacy and desire to keep it out of the spotlight. He downplays the advantages he had from being posh, says he’s not really posh and yet hangs with that set, enjoys the lifestyle, marries a suitably posh wife and does the traditional things poshies do like announcing the engagement in the Times. He bangs on about wanting to be there for the people he cares about and holidays by the sea with his family, yet signs on to the Marvel machine for god knows how many movies. I don’t have a problem with his ambition or desire to go Hollywood, but pretending he’s not and then reverting to type is irritating as hell.
He wanted Turing to take front and center this campaign, but his personal life and PR shenanigans usurped it in the quest for the gold statue. He wants us to believe he’s not a superficial, self-absorbed guy — he a different kind of actor — yet he uses his fiancee/wife for his own PR and talks about and treats her publicly in a way I’d never interpret as genuinely affectionate. I just can’t take this guy anymore. Besides being hit and miss — he shines when the role is right — he needs to show a range beyond tortured, socially-inept geniuses. Frankly, I’m bored with his recent work. Besides, there are better British actors churning out really impressive performances who aren’t pulling this PR sh*t. I’m happy to turn my attention to them for while and take a long break from BennyAnnE. He needs to get out of the spotlight and let us get to a point of missing him again. I think it could be end of the year or longer before I will.
Ding-ding-ding! You forgot that it’s all everybody else’s fault. TBH, Turing was a good performance but only for what he had to work with. Maybe he can’t play anything but troubled, posh dudes because he can’t relate to anything else? Not since STID anyway. He stopped acting when he started blowing up. It didn’t become obvious until watching the debacle that became his personal life – only after HE put it in the press.
I agree thou don’t count on him going away from the spotlight – this is only the beginning. To get the Hollywood leading man roles he needs to keep a public profile and make like he’s an A Lister. I agree that so far his movie/TV work has shown limited range, it will be interesting to see what kind of reviews Hamlet and Richard II get – but alas they both were tortured souls.
I just don’t think he can carry a movie – as part of an ensemble he can shine. I hope he doesn’t turn his back on TV for franchises and fame but alas it seems he already has.
What MntRunner said.
I’m not side-eyeing Bendy for getting married. For ALL the conspiracy theories (and there are a few) people date, get preggo (even after a short while), get married. It happens. He’s a grown man.
Re Sophie, meh, I don’t find her so offensive. Surely she doesn’t drown puppies in her spare time so she can’t be THAT bad. If she is that snotty or whatever, imho that says more about HIM then her. He choose her as his partner.
Even the PR campaign wouldn’t get SUCH a side eye if it was handled with hm… some class? Decorum? It’s an Oscar campaign, they all want it so you know fair game? F*cking own it and be done with it (MntRunner obvs put it more politely)
But the level of PR shenanigans is just beyond pale at this point. Pimping his baby mama’s uterus, I ask you. So much for being posh (side-eye) Combine that with him shouting “privacy, privacy”… I mean pick a freaking lane already!
I’ve read an excellent quote by Bill Murray (yay for Bill Murray!) yesterday about what he said re Chevy Chase. To be honest I think that’s what happening with Mr. Bendy:
“When you become famous, you’ve got like a year or two where you act like a real a–hole. You can’t help yourself. It happens to everybody. You’ve got like two years to pull it together — or it’s permanent.”
Betti – I think his earlier work actually showed a bit more range and it was only expanding. Frankenstein, STID, Osage Co. was a small part but it was different… His options are regressing. Even Dr. Strange is still a tortured genius. It sucks because Hollywood is like that kid jumping up & down, shouting “Do it again! Do it again!” But that’s why so many talented actors resist as long as possible so that they can still do/get interesting work. It’s like he’s chasing this…. I don’t know how it will end up. To me, Leo DiCaprio is the kind of success story who went & did some Blockbluster schlock, but still got to do lots of darker deeper parts. And he started getting that stuff even when he still looked all pretty boy cutesy. Wonder how he pulled that off. Lucky Scorcese got so into him.
Question, was reading sogo and she seems to really like Toby and thinks that blog is sane. Kinda makes me rethink sogo a bit. Has any story on toby even been true?
Toby said from the get go that SH was pregnant. That turned out to be true! I think she is the only one that said that from day one.
She had a 50/50 chance of being correct. It was PR or pregnant, many people guessed oops pregnancy.
Sogo thinks that TOBY is good about calling crazy people on their crazy, that’s all. And Sogo never read TOBY until about 2-3 months ago because she is immune to Hiddles. (Or so I have heard.)
The only times I’ve ever heard their stories discussed was when they were calling them out for NOT being true. Like CDAN, the set up of the blog just doesn’t make sense. Like things being absolutely impossible because simple things like the time and place didn’t match up. I remember TOBY suggested some guy was SH real BF after the rumors started and no one could put her with that guy at all. I think they just threw a name vaguely plausible to have a connection to her out there for the sake of gossip. I can’t be sure but I think the person that runs it is also a poster on ONTD who got called out for being full of sh!t over there.
I’ve unfortunately read some Toby. Unfortunately because she seems like a very bitter person who at one point was probably in love with Hiddles and had some sort of falling out with choices he made and also something to do with his fandom. Just my observation. She says she has no agenda and she isn’t fans of anybody she writes about, but spends hours a day devoted to tearing them and their fans a new one? Right. Very bitter is my guess about that one.
They claim they have a personal relationship with him? So why all the anons for “sources” ? Or are you saying they were a fan “in love”? I didn’t read a ton of it, especially the older stuff, but their whole point seems to be to tear down the nice guy image he has. Agree about the bitterness too. I got the impression they were American.
Haha! No, I don’t mean in a relationship with him. I mean fan love, and then fell out for some reason. I think the whole thing started around the time of that Jane Arthy stuff. She also seems way too into being baity and then calling any fans of either of them stupid. That’s why I think she probably had some sort of fallout with the fandom as well.
I honestly haven’t delved too much into it either, just some of the archived stuff from when it first started. I could tell all I needed to know pretty quick.
Ok, good to know lol. I’m like, surely they are not that nuts over there?…but yeah the whole thing seems to be hateful and trolling. Oh well everybody’s got one apparently. If you’re BC you have a few apparently. Oh well. Let Tumblr be Tumblr.
TOBY started out as Anti-susie blog, a tumblr blog for the sole purpose of hating Hiddles’ girlfriend at the time. Then the relationship was over and the blog had gone silent until he was seen with Jane Arthy. So she came out of the woodwork again and made up some “gossip” (which was mostly old fandom drama and stuff trolls at datalounge made up like… a century ago to bait the fangirls) and hated on JA, which was something that attracted a lot of anons who were gutted that Hiddles might or might not be bonking a woman during a holiday. Toby gave them an outlet for their feelings about the evil witch and the guy the fangirls kinda “broke up” with. Everyone who disagreed with painting him or both as pervy people with psychological issues was called a nanny. But then this got pretty old and boring as most of her stories were debunked and everyone was back to square one, which is that nobody knows anything about the guy’s private life.
So Toby needed a new playground and BC/SH provided it and I guess she’s having fun with that one now.
” I’m not interested in being the man of the moment, I’m interested in longevity” Oh, my God, does he mean that this overexposure of him that is happening lately is NOT limited to the Oascr campaign, but will be permanent? Tell me is not so.
Even if you take away all the personal stuff, this is a man who just signed a most likely 3-5 picture deal with Marvel Studios, after doing interviews saying he wanted to spend more time at home.
I dunno
I’m irritated with him right now, but to be fair; he’s been saying that longevity line for at least 2 years. It’s nothing new.
Well, no actor would say he wants to be just a flash in the pan, it wouldn’t make any sense. The point is he took his eyes off the ball, and forgot that it should be all about the acting, and not about: personal life, photobombing, sashaying on a catwalk, interviewing F1 pilots, presenting random programmes, and in general, being everywhere doing anything but his real job. And it shows, as his acting is not as good as it was.
Maybe his PR people told him he needs to be visible at all times, otherwise fans will forget he exists, but this is way too much.
We want to see good, solid work and not these silly stunts.
But to be honest, I’m not very hopeful, as he’s chosen to be in a Marvel franchise. So, we should expect more of WhoreyBatch.
He seemed such a nice guy, but I guess ‘seem’ is the operative word here.
WhoreyBatch. 😄😄😄
As long as he continues to do good work, I expect I’m in for the long haul. Start concentrating on Hollywood pap/crap and I’m out.
I was a massive Mel Gibson fan for about 1980-85. Mad Max, Road Warrior, Tim, Gallipoli, Year of Living Dangerously, Mrs. Soffel. He was doing terrific work. Then he moved to H’wood and the quality rapidly deteriorated and I completely lost interest, no reason to follow him anymore. I hope that doesn’t happen to Ben and he continues to mix movies, tv, theatre and audio work. Whatever the state of his personal life, just keep intriguing me with his talent.
OKAY. So the gloating ring pic is apparently from Mean Tweets Oscar Edition. If he is insulting a heartbroken fan in that segment, he’s over. If he’s insulting someone who is just calling him ugly, then maybe not. I’m really curious if he’s gonna rub it in a sad fan’s face that he’s married.
Um mean tweets really are mean. it’s not going to be something a sad fan would say even as a joke. my guess is someone saying he’s really ugly so who’d want to marry him but nastier wording lol
He flashed his wedding finger because they had a marriage theme song playing as he walked onto the stage.
Ok
I’m not sure how good a judge of character he is. Look at this frankly odd stylist of his. Inbetween tweeting photos of Robbie Williams and steve mcqueens dick, he posts exclusively about bc.
Then this high profile client, who is rumoured to be getting married around v day, enlists his help and he tweets about the fitting, knowing exactly how it will be received. Even when tweeted that it will stir rumours, he still didn’t delete. Even adam, which was very disappointing, directs people to this fool, who is still making references to the wedding even now.
How is this ok? Apart from betraying the trust he would apparently needed to have placed in them, they’re using him and his ‘private’ life to promote their own business.
And today, that total goon Siskin is having an undignified and childish spat with crazy fans on Twitter. Something he apparently does with alarming regularity.
Did you not know?
They are on the Ride-All-You-Can on BCs Coattail!!
Limited seats only.
So we’ll just have to settle on this train-wreck.
His affiliations are so embarrassing. Why would they think being worshiped by a bunch of twitter fans will give them a boost in their career. JR did have a following before BC but he just helped him hit the mainstream more. He is the exception.
Felice, I agree that a lot of his so called friends are suspect and I thought that before this Oscar and personal life mess. He needs to dump the sycophants.
Indiscreet famewhores. Do himself a favor and divest himself of all the users.
I do wonder if his parents bave any input now. He looks so unhealthy and stressed. Is he now all S’s responsibility? I wouldn’t care. If he were my son, I’d be butting in. Blood over water.
@Alice, can you adopt Ben? He needs you!
Do you know a lawyer who can draw up the papers? I’ll get right on it. Must love dogs. I have lots of them.
I hope I don’t get banned but am I alone in thinking that James Rhoads got off his meds too quickly? He has no problems putting Benedict’s business in the street. It’s a contest as to which of his friends has their head furthest up Ben’s ass. All of them are lining up to use him and take advantage of his rising fame, including Sophie. She wouldn’t have looked twice at him if he didn’t have one foot in Hollywood, now that she got the best of him she can’t wipe that smug look off her face.
yuuuup yup yup yup
Ditto.
I don’t think it’s a med thing but I really hope he tweets with BC’s permission because he can really push the limit of propriety for a friend of a more famous person.
Moodgirl, just to answer your two posts in the last thread: the ones of her behaviour off camera was hermi’s July story of her refusing to let him touch her which I now think has some credibility, and the daily mail commenter on 5/11 who says she saw them at the theatre a few weeks prior and said she’d never seen a more miserable couple. Also, LOL at “Ben and nutjob”.
+ 1000.
He needs to weed out his rolodex, stat. I feel for him in that regard, the older I get (I’m in my early 40s), the more difficult I find it to shed long-term friends for fear of having no friends at all.
All of Ben’s friends seem to be in the business, on the fringes of it or keen to get a look in via him. I’ve never witnessed such an exposure of true colours around a celebrity since Nov. 5th. Aided heavily of course by the pig trough of social media. I hope he *does* have some good, steady friends and we never hear from them.
Rolodex, lol. I bet no one under 25 knows what that is anymore.
Months and months of evidence and interviews to the contrary Ben.
What do you all think will happen if Hamlet is a total failure? Will he survive?
It won’t be. He’ll be great.
Considering they put the running time at 2:40 hours, I hope they are not going to cut too much of the play. I’m afraid It’s going to be a bit meh, which is worse than a total failure.
2:40 is a bit short but should be okay. Please god they don’t do the “Readers Digest Condensed Version for Dummies” like Kelsey Grammer did with MacBeth a while back. That was catastrophic. Depends I suppose on how much input Lyndsey Turner has.
I think BC is the modern day version of Hamlet so it will be great. When cast, I did an internal eye roll-indecisive character, wordy monologues that go on and on….BC to a tee. Snark aside, it is a career goal for all serious stage actors to play Hamlet and be their generation’s defining performance. But agree with Hermi, heaven help him if it is just ok. Wouldn’t be surprised if some critics have their claws out.
I worry about that, too. It would be a shame if any critis wrote their reviews with the aim of taking him down a notch, rather than on his performance. I’ll never be in a position to see him on the London stage, but IIRC he’s received superlative reviews for all his performances. I hope after Monday he has time to rest, eat healthy foods and just chill, decompress, meditate, whatever it takes to get his head on straight and release the stress of the past 6-7 months. He needs to do that to really prepare for Hamlet and to start to look happy again.
He’s going to slowly dwindle and disappear after Sherlock gets canceled or just ends.
Outside of that superb TV show, he really does not attract much attention at all.
Is it true they don’t plan to do the series after s5?
Where’s that coming from? I’ve only seen it mentioned here.
@Alice
It came from a person on Data Lounge
“Heard this from a friend who is a sound technician on a lot of BBC projects. It might just be baseless rumor, he said this was the scuttlebutt at work last week.
Rumor has it that the reason most of the Sherlock crowd (Martin Freeman, Mark Gatiss, Louise Brealey) were not at the wedding is because Ben has unilaterally decided that he’s done after Season 4 of Sherlock, and is abandoning the project in favor of his big screen career, and so everyone is severely pissed at him.”
That seems harsh. It’s probably because BC believes he just can’t continue doing Sherlock even though his current attitude makes me believe he’s counting his eggs before they hatch.
Not sure how much faith I put in DL. And he’s said he wanted to play the part as an older man. I guess we’ll see.
Delete. Double post.
Same rumor is on bennysitsinchairs blog on tumblr. She may have found it there. Who knows. Time will tell. It alway does.
Well, he wasnt famous before Sherlock, although he had been working for 10 years. I wonder what will happen when Sherlock is done. He is not as successful as he likes to believe in his other projects.
It’s depressing how few people are talking about Keira’s comments here. Too busy freaking out because their internet boyfriend got someone pregnant. So much for being feminists.
I’m so sick of the feminist police.
Keira’s comments deserve a thread of their own and if it did there’d be much discussion. But CB didn’t do that, and that’s most telling. Not fair to knock us for talking about the thread’s topic when it’s clear the original post on this site tends to dictate the kind of conversation we have
The beagle who won the Westminster Dog Show got his (?) own thread. “Grumpy or Gorgeous?” Sometimes I want to resign from the human race
Miss P is female and adorable. She deserved her own thread, unlike Sophie.
I thought her story was absolutely appalling. I have been aware that the British paps were awful but that was just terrible. Sounds like, as she said, she had a good support system that helped her get through that. I don’t always like her roles but she seems a truly lovely person. I also noticed that her engagement ring is endearingly normal and not a gobstopper like Sophie’s.
Pssh. Kinda transparent, there. At least use a substitution cipher or something.
OMG! You think?
Well, the branding is consistent. Meh.
What, the reversed initials?
Good lord…
Can one of you explain to me what this was about? msd?
Claire, I’m not going to say the name outright because it’s sort of like “speak of the Devil and he appears.” Someone in SH’s life, a friend from New York, who does PR work and has been baiting and riling up “skeptics” and BC/SH detractors on Twitter over the last few days since the wedding. People think it’s an attempt to make them all look crazy; he’s done the same kind of online engagement before with Beyonce fans (while he was working her PR) and Twilight fans (who knows why the latter, though). His real initials are MDS, but he also appears to be a musician manque and has a stage name, a single name beginning with G. If you follow skeptic blogs, you’ll know who I mean. It was Queen Sophie who gave him the stage name, btw.
Got it!
I’m starting to get sick of Celebitchy and all their Cumberlatch “YOUNG OR FLATTERING?” posts Switch to Disquis already and start talking about topics that are actually shocking.
Like what? Nothing really that interesting going on right now.
This is interesting: Over on Paji ba, they covered a “brutally honest” Oscar voter. By brutally honest, they meant total twit and fairly racist, but the interesting and relevant to our discussions part is that this person can’t figure out why TIG wasn’t getting any more attention than they are. They said they wanted it to be karma for HW. That’s interesting. We’ve discussed here that it didn’t seem to be worth the effort for BC to sell his soul out like he did. Is the industry starting to notice that too?
I was very happy that she voted for Graham Moore but dear god she was racist. I totally see Weinstein karma. If that’s the case, maybe industry people don’t blame BC for all this crap.
Yes they do. Ben’s behavior was so off the wall there is no way it
wasn’t noticed. I blame him for promoting his personal life and taking his eyes off the movie.
Don’t know much about B. Cumberbatch. Saw The Imitation Game a few weeks ago and loved his performance. I think it’s really funny that so many women are crazy about him. I don’t see him as a sex symbol. But if you are a real fan than you should be happy for him. To leave all these nasty comments about his wife is really unfair. I don’t care what he’s doing in real life. I’m just interested in good movies and actors….. Reading gossip sites just for fun;)
Sorry, but I’ve hit a few issues with your post.
1. Who says the people on here are motivated by sex or ‘crazy about him’?
2. ‘Real fans should be happy for him’. Sorry, but that’s really reductive and childish.
3. Where are all the ‘nasty comments about his wife’ you’re seeing?
Please don’t tell other people how a “real fan” is supposed to behave.
Kat, I’ve seen people on this site essentially call her stupid because she may not have a degree. (I’m not following any of this closely, so I have no idea whether or not that was ever proven.) People have also accused her of trapping Benedict with the pregnancy. Some have even gone far enough to suggest that the baby is really someone else’s. I’ve also seen some commenters suggest that she isn’t pretty or young enough for Benedict.
I’ve read all that and yet I barely follow these posts. Whether you like it or not, you have to admit that there is some nastiness here. People on other gossip sites have noticed it as well.
K,
Sorry but I’ve not seen anyone on these threads suggest she’s not young or pretty enough. Where did you see that?
And as for the comments and speculation on paternity and how she became pregnant, sorry but this is a gossip site.
In the circumstances, people are bound to …well….gossip.
I’m sorry, I just don’t believe that other ‘gossip’ sites would remark that this one is anything significant in that sense. It’s largely people with intelligence just discussing the circumstances. People don’t tend to sugar the pill, there’s no Pollyanna-ing, but that doesn’t make it nasty as such.
Let’s be clear on one thing: if they dated for five years and she became pregnant, no one would be questioning paternity, probably not even with the photo trail of her spending the summer with nothing but other men. But dating not even half a year and their PR trying to con us into thinking they had a serious relationship for 2, 5 years? Even 1 year? With her showing more physical affection toward every other man in her life than BC, while she repeatedly shows she’s moderately repulsed by him even touching her? Anyone whose reading pile isn’t people magazine and the daily mail is going to be suspicious.
I don’t follow this closely, but I’ve read people write that the child is to be pitied because she is such a cold b*tch that she will be a horrible mother.
I think that pretty much qualifies for “nasty comment”.
Isadora
Come on now. That was one comment by one person months ago. I remember seeing it. It’s hardly worth flagging up as representative or typical of what’s said or general opinion. It’s quite clearly not.
You don’t know much about B. Cumberbatch……. so you are really at a disadvantage on this site.
We should take a deep breath and relax. You seem to be in a really bad mood;) Yeah, actually some people may be convinced that they know Cumberbatch after reading every single piece of information about him, but in the end you gonna know maybe as much as I do. Even this is a gossip site you should “discuss the circumstances” in a respectful way. I don’t think it’s childish to support your favourite actor/ star or, in this case, being happy for him that he found love. I do really enjoy reading all the posts on this site, but the comments are sometimes way too bitchy #badkarma. This is just a general statement. Don’t feel offended.
I’m not offended nor am I in a bad mood. A large percentage of posters here have been fans of B. Cumberbatch for a while, some for years. If you are not a fan and don’t know much about him then you are missing a large piece of the puzzle.
No one called Sophie stupid because she may not have a degree, the problem is her credentials have more than a few mistakes and she is being presented as something she is not. Highly unprofessional. There’s no shame in not having a degree but plenty when you inflate everything about your life to look more important than you are. In my line of work she would be out of a job.
There are some posters on here who have commented on him since 2012 (well a lot “got sick and left”). He has done a whole 180 in his personality and morals.
@moodgirl She was out of a job until November 5th!
“No one called Sophie stupid because she may not have a degree” – yes, there were some comments saying exactly that. Even I remember that because I thought it was pretty crazy.
With all the things that are obvious in the news not just here on this site but many, many others, you would think that someone just commenting would see some facts. Like I said before, cue the jealous hags please! 😛
And if you read those comments about her failing to graduate from Oxford, you’ll know that many of us said it was not a sign of a lack of intelligence, but work ethic and follow through, and a sign of the person she has been ever since she left Oxford: someone who coasts by with little work ethic and an easy life style because of her family money. You may also recall some of the ladies on those threads were also Oxford grads or knew Oxford grads themselves, and explained to everyone else that getting into Oxbridge was not a sign of intelligence, but rather the outcome of a class system wherein public school kids are coached on how to present themselves to the admissions department at those universities during the interviews process, something that puts even students with top marks at state-funded schools at a huge disadvantage. (I recall one woman was from a state-funded school who was engaging with a program to coach teenagers at her old school on how to ace the Oxford admissions process so the playing field was more level for working class children.)
And you can add me to the pile of people who’s known Oxford grads who are utter morons.
Yes, Claire, you are totally right! But it doesn’t take away the fact that some people DID say that she’s stupid because she didn’t finish her degree like people are claiming here. People writing something and other people respond in a different fashion isn’t “no one called”.
“not a sign of a lack of intelligence, but work ethic and follow through, and a sign of the person she has been ever since she left Oxford: someone who coasts by with little work ethic and an easy life style because of her family money.” You might have a point but you might also be extremely unfair here. I obviously don’t know Sophie Hunter so I have no idea IF she finished her studies (was it ever proven that she did not?) and if not WHY not. Usually people finish stuff if they’ve invested a few years of their lives in it, no matter how richt they are. And if not, you clearly see it as a lack of work ethic compared with too much money. I know a bunch of people who dropped out of university before they finished their degree and not a single one of them did it because they lacked work ethic. One person dropped out due to severe depression, which impaired his grades and performance, which made him feel even more worthless, etc. One couldn’t finish her degree due to her ADD. She’s definitely not stupid but also not cut out for academic learning. Two people got stuck during there master thesis and entered a vicious circle of procrastination, anxiety, etc. until they ran out of money and had to drop out to get a job. For them not too much money, but lack of it was the problem – combined with the fact that they were stuck in their thesis writing process, which can happen to everyone. Thesis writing is a b*tch.
As I said, no idea if SH had such problems or not. But just assuming so because you don’t like her or think she’s led a too privileged life or something like that, is a bit biased and shows how people in the Cumberbatch threads often (not always) jump to the worst conclusions.
What’s with the telling people to relax? I think everyone’s perfectly relaxed, thanks.
And yes, it is intensely childish to come onto a gossip site, populated mostly by people who want to discuss celebrity nonsense and tell grown adults they need to act like ‘real fans’. And how do you propose they do this?
He didn’t have his emails hacked or his phone bugged, he put this rushed engagement and marriage out there for the public. And I don’t think people should be told they’re not being respectful because they’re on a GOSSIP site talking about the likelihood of this being an example of him ‘finding love’.
There really are plenty of sites that are geared towards ‘real fans’ who will gush and worship unquestionably over everything he does. Thankfully this isn’t one of them.
Cry me a river. Everything isn’t for everyone, however, I get tired of people making excuses as to why they don’t make it through a situation. Life is tough but you can’t present a resume or CV that states you accomplished things that you didn’t and expect not to get called out.
I know of people who are depressed, had learning challenges, family problems, lived in poverty, had children out of wedlock while living in public housing, didn’t have transportation and had to walk to campus because they couldn’t afford to live on campus…..the list goes on and on. My best friend graduated and had to have a tutor for many of her classes. All of the people above graduated and are successful in their careers. It’s not about challenges but how you work through them. Lying about your achievements is not the way to go about it.
Go photograph Eddie Redmayne and show the world someone important.
You can find him on any red carpet.
I just remembered the interview he gave to Time Out where he said, speaking of HW: We understand each other, we want the same thing.
Good luck to you, Ben, you are going to need it.
Actually, there are people that really have too much time on their hands so they fill some of it by tearing down another person/or persons. This is a “gossip” site…you never really know what the reality of a situation is…so take it with a grain of salt and give your blood pressure a rest.
Ok, so I just started following this story and am fascinated by the PR aspect.
I discovered BC through the countless articles Buzzfeed used to post about him, which were often simply lists of reasons why we should have a crush on him. There were so many that after a while, I started wondering if his publicist struck a deal with Buzzfeed or something.
It was interesting to see how he and his team were able to build a persona that seduced so many people. There are a lot of attractive actors out there, but he managed to really stand out through his charming interviews and that Sherlock gig.
Then, he started being all over the other news sites after announcing his engagement. The subsequent pregnancy and marriage made things a lot more interesting. I am still trying to determine whether or not all of this was handled properly, but I’m more inclined to think that these events will turn out to be positive in the long run. I mean, he got a massive amount of exposure, and even though some people are upset, he’s being talked about by all the popular news sites and bloggers (he has his own menu section on Celebitchy for goodness sakes!).
I think of how much controversy Brad and Angelina created when they got married, and how it paid off. After all these years, they are still getting work and press coverage in this ever so competitive field.
I found it interesting that he mentioned longevity. I think that he was prepared to get a lot of criticism for his personal choices, but he probably knew that the exposure would increase his chances of getting great roles for many years to come.
Or, I could be wrong. I am far from being a PR expert.
Personally, I love his work and am happy for him and his family.
You’re pretty much on point. General audience exposure is more vital than anything else these days, those people who remember liking you in something and go see your new project or play as a result but rarely or never read an interview. They’re 80% of your ticket sales.
Relying on an online fandom (too small) or just your talent (too much competition) can lead to offers drying up. This is a cross-industry game now, the days of the box-office actor are over and there’s too many fish in the pond.
So, it’s move up or get out of the way. That’s why so many actors put themselves through the stressful, bizarre, be anything-but-yourself experience of an Oscar campaign. The industry is a business more than an art form, and it’s intensely competitive.
Pictures are important. Pictures and more pictures are like eye candy pills to fans.
It might have given him exposure that will maybe prove helpful in the long run. Some people (like my mother) have definitely heard of him now, who had no idea about him beforehand.
On the other hand I think some PR stuff was handled quite badly, especially some comments he gave in interview as he seems to suffer from foot-in-mouth-syndrome. I’m not sure why is that, I guess it comes in part from being in this PR machinery between Harvey Weinstein and his usual publicist (which doesn’t apear like the most capable publicist ever to me) and in part from his insecurity what’s the right thing to do. It’s all interpretation of course but to me it seems like he is rather image conscious and couldn’t decide which way is wrong and which is right to handle his private life, career, Oscar campaign etc.
In the end a large part of his fandom won’t mind if he says occasionally stupid things (as he can do no wrong anyway), a smaller part would have “broken up” with him anyway as he is now married and another part is what we see here at CB – people who critizise heavily his PR, his relationship, etc. However the lost fans maybe won’t have much impact in the long run as he will gain new ones through his new exposure, TIG and new work.
Personally, for me it hardly changes anything. I haven’t been following him since his beginnings. I think I’ve only seen Sherlock at the end of 2013/beginning of 2014, found him fresh and engaging in that role and have seen some interviews on youtube since then. Personally I can’t see the radical change people here see, to me he always seemed like a clever and funny but also overcompensating guy who has a penchant for awkward comments. To me the rest seems the usual Oscar campaing stuff (and what I described above) and general stress because of that.
But I’m sure people here will be quick to point out how wrong I am. 😉
I think you, Isadora have the most similar take on everything as I do. I also hope he’s ultimately happy, has a long career and figures the whole the PR thing out (sooner than later). I think you are right about the “to me he always seemed like a clever and funny but also overcompensating guy who has a penchant for awkward comments”, and I also think he is quite naive about Hollywood. He’s seems smart enough to get the hang of it and many actors have stumbled early on and then found their way. As for his (wife), I really don’t care about it. That’s for him to figure out and live with, it has nothing to do with me. I wish him well with it.
Overexposure always seems to be a double-edged sword. Detractors seem to be waiting in the wings, to either dig up (or find new) reasons to cut you down to size. Ultimately, I hope it is his talent that gets overexposed, not his personal life.
I just think he’s just bad at interviews. Even looking at his old ones he’s a bit mumbly bumbly. This Oscar et. al situation has just made it worse. Just because you’re a fine actor( remember it takes how many takes and rehearsal to get a scene right) doesn’t mean you’re great in real time. I’ve seen others in the spotlight who are just like that.