Woody Allen averages one film a year, good and bad. He doesn’t really care if the films are well-received or if they make money. He’s always “on to the next one.” He’s worked out some kind of deal with Sony Pictures where they pay the relatively paltry production costs and no one gives Woody any notes. That deal has spawned Oscar-winning films like Vicky Christina Barcelona, Midnight In Paris and Blue Jasmine. That deal has also spawned deeply flawed films like To Rome With Love and Whatever Works.
Woody’s 2015 release will be Irrational Man, starring his latest young “muse,” Emma Stone (she was the lead in WA’s Magic In the Moonlight too). But even though Irrational Man isn’t even out yet, Woody has written the script for his next film and he’s already cast the leads: Jesse Eisenberg, Bruce Willis… and Kristen Stewart.
Woody Allen has begun casting his 2015 feature film, and he has set Jesse Eisenberg, Bruce Willis and Kristen Stewart to lead the ensemble, I’m told. No comment from the Allen camp. As usual, the film is untitled and there are no plot details, and it’s being produced by Letty Arsonson, Stephen Tenenbaum and Edward Walson, his usual collaborators. Allen might be the one director who, when he courts talent, doesn’t really show them a script. Everybody wants to work with him and they consider themselves lucky to be asked and if they’re available, they say yes almost always.
Allen’s next release, Irrational Man, stars Emma stone and Joaquin Phoenix and it will be released by Sony Pictures Classics July 24th.
Ten bucks says Kristen Stewart is Bruce Willis’ love interest in the film. Right? I know there’s a lot of hate towards Woody Allen these days, but I guess I’m able to compartmentalize how I feel about him as a person (he’s gross) and how I feel about him as an artist. I saw and loved both Midnight In Paris and Blue Jasmine. Jasmine especially seemed like an incredibly mature work from him. I’m not sure how he can go from charming wood nymph Emma Stone to… lip-biting artiste Kristen Stewart. We’ll see. It’s notable that despite what all of us in the cheap seats think about Woody, major actors still say “yes” to him when they’re offered a role.
PS… I think Kristen’s general twitchiness and awkwardness will actually fit pretty well with a Woody Allen-written heroine.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I cannot believe this girl gets any roles. I just can’t. That said, I have major issue with people not caring about woody Allen. He’s just not a perv that married his stepdaughter, but sexually abused his own. I don’t get how people can forget that because he might be good at a job (Terry Richardson, Roman Polaski).
You and me both, Allie. I don’t allow myself to love his films because I refuse to watch them. I refuse to reward his perversion with my dollars and/or admiration.
I haven’t watched any of his movies since the early 90s. I can’t even see the older ones that I liked pre-scandal.
I feel exactly as you do, minx. I’ve thrown out all of his movies from my collection. I couldn’t even bring myself to put them in bags I give to Charity shops because I don’t want to encourage anyone to begin watching. He is beyond disgusting!
I agree with every single word you just said! “He’ s a sexual predator!”; “But he’ s a good director!”. It’ s nonsense! People like him, Polanski, and everyone else like them should be in jail, ans if not there, should be stripped of their rights to produce anything artistic, so that people would stop considering them “artists” and see them for what they are: a***holes!
Becuase he’s good at his job and because he’s a priviledged white man. If a woman married her stepson and was accused of sexually abusing one of her children, she would be vilified from the word go, would lose everything, and if she wasn’t sent to prison she would still be shamed to hell and back. Same story, if not much worse, if Woody was a black man. His privilege gets him a pass.
I didn’t even read the article because I was too afraid of being sickened by it. But I didn’t want to miss the comments.
Woody Allen is a misogynist old goat who’s movies haven’t been relevant since the Age of Aquarius. Any woman who works with him isn’t really a feminist as all of his female characters are either bitter middle aged women, manipulative twits or vacuous barely legal ingenues.
Co-sign.
I feel kind of guilty for loving his films and being able to compartmentalize my feelings about his art and his real-life behavior. (I try my best not to support R. Kelly because his lyrics deal directly with his predatory ways toward young girls. I can’t listen to a song and NOT think “is this about a 16 year old?” With Woody, I don’t connect his pattern of abuse with his work because his work isn’t on the same subject. Does that make any sense?) I do think this will give Kristen a really great vehicle for her talent. Also, at first I only came here to say her makeup in the photos is beyond amazing. She looks fantastic. And all that being said, I’m not a fan of hers at all. It’s like water!!!!!
I think you’re a fan, and there’s nothing wring with that. 😊
I guess I’m not evolved because I don’t see any of his movies and look at actors who play in his movies in a different light. I’m just happy actors I actually care about haven’t done any of his movies since his scandal.
The people who are able to compartmentalize how they feel about my stepdad find it easy to be in his life while knowing he violently raped and tortured me. Whatever helps them maintain perspective, though, right?
Woody Allen’s artistic contributions are not an excuse to overlook his criminal, abusive, exploitative, repulsive, harmful behavior.
Compartmentalization sucks.
Yes, he is able to continue to thrive and flourish and receive adulation in spite of his many known and unknown acts of abuse towards innocent children in his life because people can “compartmentalize.” Because he has talent as an artist? I’m sorry but you have to choose a side. If you’re going to his movies, you’re choosing his talent over his abusive behavior. And I will never understand. He turns my stomach.
And AustenGirl, I’m so sorry for what you went through. I wish I had words.
Thank you, dear GNAT! I only get graphically real about it because people don’t realize the horrible ramifications for victims when their abusers continue to be accepted by people who know and acknowledge what they did.
Austengirl, I’m so sorry for what you went through. I wish you awesome things, and hope you’re out there kicking ass 🙂
I wish I had better things to say about the compartmentalization, because I’m one of those people who does it. I think part of it is the not-real-life aspect of it too. If I had the opportunity to meet him in person, I wouldn’t do it. And I’ve been a fan of his movies since I was a kid. I have no desire to know him, no desire to care about him as a human being. I won’t go to the movies and pay money that will go to him. I genuinely just like the movies.
I hope you’ve found peace in your life, and I hope you understand my point of view a little better. I understand yours, for sure.
@savu: thank you. I don’t speak up to inspire pity or to ask people to feel bad for me. My speaking up is an invitation to join my outrage.
I am one of too many who were abused as children. He is one of too many who gets away with it. Anyone who sees his movies is one of too many whose complacency enables a society in which abuse is tolerated.
AustenGirl, sorry for what you went through. Please know that there are people who cannot compartmentalize and who do refuse to watch his films knowing what he did to those girls (even if you don’t believe his daughter, what excuse do you have for his marrying his step-daughter and having nude pictures of her as a minor?)
Soon-Yi is not his step-daughter and she was a sophomore in college.
@cubfan
Whatever you use to justify Woody being a sick man, won’t change facts. Yes, he wasn’t her actual step father, but he had been around that girl since she was 8 and dating her mother. That alone makes him scum.
He married the sister of his legal childen– which makes him their brother in law as well as their father. In what universe is that not a transgression? is there any evidence that he even thought about the damage he was doing to this family?
That, and he had been in a longterm relationship and had children with her mother, and met her when she was a child. Yeah, he waited until she was legal before they a knowledge having seX– that makes it all better?
@cubfan
But dylan was his step daughter and under 5 I believe when he assaulted her. Is that enough for you?
@cubfan34 – he waited until Soon-yi was of age to go public. What happened in private was probably happening for several years before Mia found the incriminating pictures. His weird obsession with Dylan started when she was barely out of diapers so who knows when he started messing with Soon-Yi as he’d been in Mia’s life from the time she was 6 or 7. Although “legally” he didn’t break any laws in his relationship with her, morally he was utterly corrupt and his actions will never be anything other than selfish and contemptible.
AustenGirl – I’m sorry about what you’ve had to live through. Your comment made me think about Stewart’s recent quote that was covered here a few days back.
“I love putting myself through hell and really experiencing that pain. That’s when I feel the most fulfilled, when at the end I feel like I’ve slaughtered myself. And it’s so worth it.”
While it was a general comment and not specific to a role/job, now it seems even more insensitive and glib given her decision to work with Allen… a man who has actually put other through real hell and real pain.
Uh, that comment is specific to a role. I read that interview. I don’t get how on earth that it is insensitive to say she likes to play difficult characters or push herself in films. She’s not talking about real life
I’m sorry that happened to you and I empathize. It seems that most times in families who have an abuser, the other members rally around the criminal. Woody Allen is just a public example of a very common phenomenon. If it helps at all, I loahe your step-dad and I havnt even met him.
I don’t for a second understand this compartmentalize nonsense! That is the reason why people like your step dad are still around and why Woody can make films, because people who know how horrible he is still watch them, thus make him money, thus keep him around. So I guess Bill Cosby’s a great artist–let’s all go watch The Cosby Show and attend all his comedy events because…he’s just such a swell artist (EYE ROLL)
Add me to the people who are horrified and sorry for what you went through. For what it’s worth, as much as I loved Woody Allen’s movies before the Soon-yi incident, I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch anything he’s done since.
It’s a coup for Kristen Stewart – no matter what people think of Woody Allen, her casting signals that her focus on indie films has paid off and she’s escaped from being pigeonholed as the Twilight girl. I think she has a very limited range as an actress, but her sullen charisma carries her a fairly long way – and Kaiser is right, her lip-biting will suit a Woody Allen film. I also don’t blame her for working with him, despite everything – along with David O Russell (someone else with issues…), he’s one of the few established directors who consistently writes good roles for women.
Ugh. This thread is making me crazy. Go ahead and come at me, but this is the kind of attitude that guarantees pedophiles with enough money/clout will continue to live free and most likely abuse others.
@cindy ughhhhh same here. Just disgusted with some of the comments.
Good roles for women LOL most of them are a version of the manic pixie dream girl.
As an adoptive mother I have to say the damage he did to his adoptive kids is unforgivable, I lose respect for any actor who makes a decision to work with him. FYi I do realize his wife is not his adoptive daughter. I am referring to his two other children.
Completely agree. I liked Cate Blanchett well enough, but after working with Woody, I lost all respect for her.
Kristen, I was actually starting to like you!
I know Woody is an iconic director but these girls have to learn that being a creep outweighs that.
Does she have more responsibility to not work with him because she’s female ? It’s obvious working with him is great for anyone’s career. If she gets flack for over looking the pedo/predator aspect so should Jesse and especially dad of 3 (or 4?) girls Bruce.
They all deserve flack. Wordsmith all you want but Allen is a predator. Actors who work with him and people who pay to see his movies are supporting him.
Is working with him really that good for anyone’s career? Not worth it, IMO.
@Courtney. You’re right. Only Blue Jasmine & Midnight in Paris were critically success in this decade. From 2000s only Vicky Cristina Barcelona. Her glory days are gone. Ellen Page, Rachel Mcadams, Freida Pinto, Helen Hunt they all worked with Allen but it hadn’t make something for their career
Do not give this disgusting old lecher your money!
I’m proud to say that I have never paid money for a Woody Allen or Roman Polanski movie and I never will. I’m disappointed in both Jesse and Kristen – Jesse because he openly condemned Polanski and Kristen because I remember an interview of hers in which she said something along the lines of “if you looked at a girl wrong right now, I would fly across the room and kill you, I’m just so protective of a certain thing that women have”. I guess we can file this under the “Jesse and Kristen are so different from everybody else in hollywood (except not really)” file.
his movies are never big money makers anyway. so we basically have no power, not buying tickets wont solve it as there arent many sold anyway.
They make enough. Money is ALWAYS the equalizer. If no one went to see the old perv’s movies, he wouldn’t make them.
This is a good break for Kristen, no doubt, but ugh. Can’t stand this creep’s movies, and looking at him makes me ill.
And yes, Bruce Willis is definitely going to be Kristen’s love interest.
Let’s be real- by compartmentalizing people meaning “ignoring.” They are ignoring the bad because they want to enjoy his movies. It’s not like hollywood is going to come to your house and ask your opinion on the man. They only voice you have is the one where you don’t go see his movies. But people do, so he stays famous, stays successful. But please don’t sugar coat it by saying you are compartmentalizing.
I have to agree.
There are no grey areas regarding pedophilia.
Even if just in your home, in private, your conscience knows. It should be enough to stop you, one would hope.
@cc–Thank you! You’re so right; it means “ignoring.” These people aren’t saying they doubt he did something wrong; they are saying that they’re willing to overlook what he did because they enjoy his movies. It’s disgusting.
Well said.
Perfectly said. I’ve never paid to see a Woody Allen movie. Never will. He’s a vile and disgusting pervert, and I won’t give him my money or support.
So this will be the third movie Jesse Eisenberg and Kristen Stewart star in together.
This generations’ Bogie and Becall.
Can’t believe actors continue to work with this repulsive man.
Another reason why audiences don’t care to listen when actors and actresses have something to say about “the issues”. You lose your right to be outraged about thing a when you willingly work with perverts. And some of them blame the criticism they get on audiences.
+1.
Can both of their careers just die already?
Yes, please.
OMG… Kristen Stewart impersonating Allen is not going to be good. He’s twitchy, she’s twitchy. A mess!
I don’t see how her “tool kit” of acting skills will work in a WA film at all. I did watch Magic but that story line with Emma and Colin Firth was just Ick. She was so thin and frail in that film that she looked child-like. And KS as a love interest with Bruce Willis???? Good luck there- when has he ever played a romantic role of any depth outside of Moonlighting?
Haven’t seen magic yet. Saw the Rome movie, with Ellen page. Also I saw Kristen Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg acting together in Some older movie about a 70s amusement park and it was pretty good. I will be excited to check this out (and magic, despite bad reviews). I have thought a lot about whether to watch his movies (via netflix is how I watch them) and with the prevalence of child abuse And pedophilia out there I don’t get the point of not watching his movies. Now if the law system changed and he was able to pay for his crimes and had to go to jail I’d be fine with that too. I’m all for increased penalties and more money for investigating child sex crimes , as well as research on prevention and support for non offending pedophiles. Disturbing subject that we need to deal with more. I don’t want to be his friend or give him money but I’m sure there are high up guys who have done even worse we just don’t know, plus the everyday people in our community, we don’t know who is a pedo and who’s not. It’s statistically likely that we know some 🙁 they may even work in our kids schools or community centres. That’s something I am more concerned about. I wish every child abuser would be punished but I’m not a legal expert on why he wasn’t. Does the law need to change? That seems more important and consequential (for all victims) than me not watching his movies each 1 time on netflix
Kristen Stewart said that she’s a feminist and that she would kill a man who looked at a woman the wrong way. Jesse said that he would never work with Roman. Both are POS who only said what they said to garner some goodwill-especially Kstew. They are just fake and play the Hollywood game . How I wish Mia would dump Jesse!
Polanski was convicted. Allen not. All we know is hearsay, gossip and that he married a younger women who isn´t his blood relative. The whole “he married the adoptive daughter of his ex-thing” feels dirty as hell, but there is no proven evidence that he did worse and his wife was an adult when he married her. So he did nothing wrong on paper. People work with him because Allen is innocent until proven guilty. Without evidence you can look the other way and do your job. That´s what all the cast and crew do when they work with him. Allen will continue to work as long as he isn´t found guilty.
Yes you say this because you like Stewart but i bet that she wasn’t in the movie you could think differently. He had nude pics of her future wife when she was underage. How this isn’t creepy?
Anyway his last good movies are Midnight in Paris & Blue Jasmine. Others are bad
Elly, I agree.
“Innocent until proven guilty” is a legal concept. It means he can’t be put in JAIL. It doesn’t mean that thinking people can’t look at what he did and be disgusted by it, and boycott his movies because of it. Your version of “what we know” is extremely whitewashed, btw. We know he took nude pictures of her when she was underage. How do you think that came about? He was probably grooming her for years. And I happen to believe his adult daughter who says he abused her, even though it can’t be proved in court. I think it took tremendous courage for her to speak out, and she did so to help herself and other victims not have to stand in the shadows anymore. So don’t hide behind “innocent until proven guilty.” If you don’t have a problem with what he did, just admit it. It’s not ever going to trial, so you have to decide for yourself.
Bruce Willis has a reputation for phoning it in, Stewart has a very limited range of acting talent and Woody is known for telling his actors to improvise on a very limited script. Not that I would pay hard earned money to see these two overrated and self-absorbed “actors” directed by this despicable man (Allen), but this film should be a hot mess of twitches, awkward dialogue and wild gesticulation.
I guess it’s a good match in terms of pretentiousness, but ugh. Especially after she and Emma Stone made a point to say that they’re feminists but yet are perfectly willing to work with someone who (allegedly) victimizes, abuses and gaslights women.
Latest young muse? The joke just written itself?
If everyone boycott the movie, then maybe HW will finally learn and stop rewarding this man. I think that Magic in the moonlight was a flop, let’s hope that people will continue boycotting his movies!
That won’t matter. Allen’s movies are critically acclaimed. They don’t have to make a dime and he’d still be able to get a movie funded. Magic probably flopped ,but Blue jasmine grossed almost 100 million and won an Oscar. Whether you like it or not no one is boycotting his movies.
@fingerbinger
that was thank to the buzz on Blanchett’s performance. Only Midnight in Paris and Blue Jasmine were really critically acclaimed in the last years
Almost everyone in Hollywood has avoided Cosby yet they are willing to work with this guy.
+1. I’m waiting for the day we’ll hear an Allen or Polanski joke at an awards show.
I haven’t read the comments yet because I’m too mad. No no no! Woody Allen makes me so mad I feel sick. the man makes me ill. Just no no no. Stewart can’t act, I’ll just start there. Next… He’s a pedophile. And yes I believe his adopted daughter Dylan completely. He married his other adopted daughter. I don’t give a sh*t if he didn’t take part in raising her, its demented .
He’s a disturbed, sexually criminal POS. We know for a fact people in Hollywood conveniently overlook this so they can receive the accolades and prestige of working for him. Do the actors with children bring them onset? I bet they wouldn’t leave them alone with Allen. But oh well. As long as it’s not YOUR kids, who cares? Yes I know there are dozens and dozens of actors who have chosen to work with him after his pedophilia became known. F*ck them. I’m not even sorry about the rant. It’s 6am, not a good start to the day, thanks woody.
You make an excellent point. Would Willis bring his young daughters around Allen? He has FIVE daughters – I’d like to hear his justification for taking a role in an Allen movie.
I red that biggies name passed the role due to scheduling. Stewart isn’t the first choice. i think she’s contacted when the others young actress pass the roles
I’ve heard the same thing. The big names were probably Stone, Watson and Lawrence. Maybe Woodley. I think actresses are more cautious now. Working with Allen did nothing for Stone except bring controversy.
That’s what I thought. Real actresses passed on this role for either ethical or scheduling conflicts.
Please, Emma Stone did two movies with him after Blue Jasmine. I think it’s uncool working with Allen, but acting like Stone is above it is BS. Both Stone and Joaquin Phoenix are in an upcoming Woody film that is being released this summer. I also read the trades and there weren’t mentions of others passing.
@Div
I red about actresses passing the role on a very reliable site about movies & awards (not IMDB or Goldderby). It’s not the first time that Stewart is the thirth or fourth choice because she isn’t in the same league with oother young actresses
What’s the name of the website where you saw that then? I’m curious because I read Indiewire, hitfix, variety, and deadline and those are usually the big, reliable ones. I really adore hitfix. I know that both she and Watson are often second choices, but I didn’t read that this time. What I objected to is people acting like Emma Stone is above the fray but gunning after KStew because Emma has done two movies with him and the second one hasn’t even come out yet. I wish all actors would stop working with him, but considering he just worked with Joaquin Phoenix it isn’t going to stop anytime soon
I don’t like hitfix because many articles that they wite are full of errors. I also red about this thing about biggies actresses passing the role and it was said from an insider that said also that the movie will be a comedy ( and that Adèle Exarchopoulos from blue is the warmest colour almost got her role)
I like Kristen Stewart these days and I fricking love Bruce WIllis, so at least I’m happy for them.
Meh, I’m honestly more annoyed when Colin Firth and Cate Blanchett work and rave over him than Emma Stone, Kristen Stewart, and Jesse Eisenberg. It’s uncool no matter what, but I can at least sort of understand from a career point of view as to why less established actors work with him…but Joaquin who is in his upcoming movie that is coming out this summer is a tour de force. When actors like Joaquin start snubbing him his power will fade. That said I wish ALL
Actors would stay away from him even if his films help their career
I have read a few River phoenix biographies and he and his siblings spent their early years in a “Love cult”, can’t remember its exact name. River was molested repeatedly by adult members of the cult and his parents knew about it. Joaquin likely escaped this fate because they had left while he was likely too young to have been abused. Nice way to honor your brother Joaquin.
gross gross
She will not goes very far. She has a very limitated rage and there are little kind of caracthers that she cans play. That aren’t the basic of a long career
I see that kstew proclaims being a feminist when it suits her, meaning when she needs women to like her.
I am so bummed about all of the Woody Allen love – bummed, disgusted, outraged. Saddened.
Woody must have seen the infamous Kristen Stewart doing it with her director photos!!! But, isn’t Kristen a little old for Woody’s tastes!! He makes me sick!!!!
So…wait. Not sure if it’s true that she will be Bruce Willis’s love interest but if it is…. It was said that she didn’t do Focus with Will Smith (46) because he was to old to be her love interest. Bruce Willis (59) is thirteen years older than Will Smith, but he not to old to be a love interest? Mmmm hmmm.
I doubt she’s playing Bruce’s love interest. I think Kaiser was just making a joke because some of his films have big age gaps like that. My guess is Jesse. I’m pretty sure she got bumped from that Will Smith film too but they just said the age thing because it sounds better/was nicer than “we kicked someone off” and was a believable excuse since she reads very young. That movie filmed a long time ago, right after her scandal, and i think Will just didn’t want to work with someone who was a tabloid magnet at the time when he and Jada were always being dragged in the tabloids about their marriage.
there is no mention that they will play a couple. It´s just Kaiser´s opinion.
Sony Pictures bears considerable responsibility here as well; they are the corporate enabler in this scenario.
I would suggest that they be included in any targeting and boycotting. Although they obviously are willing to overlook some things, they are at heart cowards when it comes to the bottom line of image, perception and profits. If Mr. Child Abuser becomes more trouble than he is literally worth, that may help persuade them to reconsider just who – and what – they bankroll.
Susan Sarandon & Lena Duhrnam (that I don’t love) were much vocal about their dislike of Allen. That shows that you have some ethics you can be brave to speak and keep to work. This is a repulsive man that had molested a girl and manipulated a teen. Anyway even he keeps to make movies only Blue Jasmine & Midnight in Paris were critically acclamaid. The most are bad
Lena Dunham has worked with Terry Richardson, who is problematic in his own right. And Susan Sarandon has worked with Sean Penn and this was after Penn tied Madonna to a chair and assaulted her for hours.
What makes it okay for them to work with those men, but condemn Allen?
Because Allen molested a child?
@Movie girl, some of Terry Richardson’s alleged sexual assault victims have been teenagers though.
“I know there’s a lot of hate towards Woody Allen these days, but I guess I’m able to compartmentalize how I feel about him as a person (he’s gross) and how I feel about him as an artist.”
Personally, a healthier attitude would be to acknowledge the person is a genius in some areas, but so morally flawed, they do not deserve recognition or support in any area of their life.
Support is support. If you watch his movies and praise his directorial talent especially in journalism, you are feeding a monster’s ego, assisting in heightening their career, and allowing them to live a lavish lifestyle – all of which said monster should have to cede as punishment for heinous acts perpetrated on vulnerable people/children.
I’ve lost respect for Emma Stone. Didn’t have any for Steward anyway, so no change there.
I think Kristen looks absolutely beautiful here. Her skin is to die for! I know i’m in the minority, but I find her awkwardness endearing somehow.
What the hell does being a feminist have to do with this? In order to be a good feminist all my thoughts, actions, and choices have to be morally and ethnically pure? That seems to be the case with those claiming that Kristen is not falling in line with your feminist views. It also seems to go against what it means to be a feminist if your are unfairly criticizing a women for doing something while the man walks free for doing the same exact thing. I see very little outcry about Jesse and Bruce working with Woody Allen.
In regards to Allen, sure he is an acclaimed director, but he has some deep personal issues. It’s like Martin Luther King Jr., that man cheated on his wife multiple times and with multiple women. Apparently he even struggled with sex addiction. Yet people remember him as a great leader and activist that changed the course of history. Even after knowing King’s past, people still want to uphold his legacy. Same thing happens with Michael Jackson. You can acknowledge both realities and recognize that someones personal problems do not always equate to public failures.
Though I do want to know what actors and actresses think when they agree to work with someone who has a controversial past.
I think adultery is a painful betrayal and committing it is weakness and a flaw in your character. But to compare it to molesting a child is wrong. A child is a victim, and doesn’t have a choice. My first husband was unfaithful to me, and it hurt very much. But I was an adult, not an innocent child, and I chose, albeit unknowingly, to marry a man who would do that. There’s no comparison between the harm that was done to me and the harm done to a molested child, or Allen’s other children when their father married their sister.
And Martin Luther King may have been unfaithful to his wife, but he did worlds of good in this country and gave his life for his beliefs. Woody Allen makes movies.
I just can’t believe you’re comparing MLK to Woody, the lengths stans go to in order to defend their idols is disturbing.
You could defend Kristen without reducing paedophilia to a mere character flaw.
And I can’t speak for others but I’m disappointed in Kristen because of an interview she gave during The Runaways promo in which she said that she feels really strongly about guys who even look at women wrong, that she would fly across the room and kill them. Now this doesn’t mean she’s not a feminist, it means that she and Jesse have lost their claim to that “we’re so different to the rest of Hollywood, we’re so real” persona in my eyes. They’re just like everybody else and like the others, they’re out for accolades because there are countless numbers of directors you can work with for the sake of “art”. So how’s that for feminism, I’m equally disappointed in both of them, I couldn’t care less about Willis because he isn’t someone I’d expect to care.
I wasn’t intentionally trying to make comparisons between what both men did. Just that people who have achieved greatness in their given field are capable of wrong doing. What they do in their personal life doesn’t reflect on what they are able to achieve in their public life. Don’t get me wrong I’m not making excuses for anybody. But nor am I going to drag up an interview from years ago to hang over someone.
@Sky You were trying to say that adultery and paedophilia are on the same level – character flaws. The legal system definitely doesn’t see it that way, and if Woody were a woman or a person of colour, his story would be very different. And I find it very interesting that her fans would point to that interview as an example of what a great person she is and you’re here trying to tell me that it doesn’t matter because it was a few years ago. Anyways, I can’t take seriously someone who thinks paedophilia and cheating are on the same level so I’ll leave you to it. Deuces ✌️
@Dani2 Not saying they are on the same level, but if we are talking legality Allen hasn’t been convicted of anything (not saying he is innocent either). I also find it interesting how haters use interviews as they see fit. But the interview does leads me back to my first point, once someone claims they are for something all their actions afterwords have to be morally and ethically pure? Nope, life doesn’t work that way. Bye bye then.
My issue with this is, like you, less Kristen Stewart working with Allen, and more Jesse and Willis working with him. Time and time again — here and elsewhere — it’s acknowledged that men (white) hold the power and privilege within Hollywood — Allen himself a prime example of this fact — and yet it’s Stewart that gets the majority of the flack for working with this man when, out of the four stars, including Stone, it should — one would think, based on the power and privilege within Hollywood — be the men getting the flack. It’s an unfortunate state of affairs in terms of gender equality, but the more leading men that turn down his roles the better. The more men that speak out (as well as women) against his vehement actions, the better. Jesse and Willis deserve just as much contempt for working with Allen as Stewart and Stone, and yet the focus is almost entirely on Stewart. Why? It’s a f*ing sad picture when a man commits crimes against multiple women and everyone focusses solely on the women that choose to him rather than the men. Men are as, if not more, responsible for the industry and culture of Hollywood than women. Lambast them equally. Willis and Jesse signing on suggests they care nothing for the women in their lives, young and old. To me, that’s more disgusting than Stewart and Stone agreeing to work with him out of, potentially, solely career-interested reasons.
Ugh, Woody Allen. I hope this tanks just like that horrible Magic in the Moonlight movie, which was sexist, racist, and really bad. I watched part of it on a plane (Allen will get no $ from me). It’s TERRIBLE. He had Colin Firth doing a racist impersonation of a Chinese man. I know they did that in the past but WTF? Shouldn’t we let these racist caricatures just die out already. Why perpetuate it? And then he throws away his age-appropriate fiancee to be with Emma Stone who is half his age. Both Firth and Stone were really bad.
I side eye anyone who works with Allen, too. Even you, Cate Blanchett! 🙁 it really says something when actors will work with a reprehensible man doing reprehensible things because they think they’ll win a shiny golden statue. I guess that little statue means so much. So sick…
I don’t think there is anything wrong with so called compartmentalization. If we judged s persons work on their moral character, there would be a hell of a lot of great works we could not enjoy. I guess that means not listening to a fair amount of music. You would be surprised by the awful stuff some stars have done.
I try not to let my opinion of a persons character affect how I judge their work. That being said if they have done something really awful, once I know, I won’t be able to enjoy their work. I don’t see myself paying to watch a woody Allen movie.
That being said I think people should be allowed to enjoy a work independent of who made it.
So you are saying people should enjoy someone’s work regardless if they are a killer/pedophile? Correct me if l’m wrong but you basically admitted it in your last sentence. Try saying that to the victims because trust me they think very differently to what you are saying. You should never separate the two because they are still the same person.
I was sexually assaulted by someone whose profession is a doctor and I never ever think what a wonderful doctor he is. To me he is a monster.
So sorry to hear that.
I agree that comparmentalization essentially means to deny that person did something wrong. In cases like Allen, it allows him to continue on his way with no repercussions for his actions.
“A lot of works of art we can’t enjoy”? I think it’s possible to enjoy great art not made by pedophiles, rapists and murderers. At that point, art becomes secondary in importance to not supporting some sick jerk.
His success/faailure pattern seems to be one following the other alternatively. It’s rare that he has consecutive failures or successes.
Sorry, can’t compartmentalize this. I have children. I’ve seen too many people with influence get a pass for disgusting behavior. It’s a free country. Therefore I’ll exercise my right never to put a penny in this man’s pocket ever again. And yes, at one point I liked his movies. But not enough to finance his lifestyle.