Brandi Glanville did an interview with William Shatner… for some reason. It was part of Ora TV’s Brown Bag Wine Tasting, and since “wine” is right there in the title, I’m assuming Brandi was on her way to being pretty hammered when this interview took place. There are lots of juicy quotes from the piece, some about Brandi’s current dating life, some about her marriage to Eddie Cibrian, and some about divorce in general. Here are some highlights:
On her marriage to Eddie: “He had extra girlfriends, I guess you can say. He had some ladies on the side.”
She tried to forgive him: “I tried but when I found out there was more than a couple, I decided I was better off on my own.”
The divorce: “It’s almost like a death. You mourn, you die a little bit. Who you were as a wife and a mother, you’re no longer that person. It took me about a year to figure out that it had nothing to do with me. But it took a while… I was wondering how I could be any better than I was. Was I not tall enough? Skinny enough? Are my boobs not big enough? Should I have blue eyes? It was all of that. It made me a better person to go through that. And to figure out that it had nothing to do with me.”
Her current love life: “I just broke up with my boyfriend on the way here, via text… He was annoying me.”
Don’t call it “making love”: “I wouldn’t call it making love. When you’re doing stuff that’s a little kinkier, I call it f–king. That’s just how I say it. When people say making love—like when guys say ‘I want to make love to you’ I’m like ‘You don’t even know me. You’re a mangina.'”
I like that she’s past the point of calling out Eddie’s mistresses specifically. She can’t really avoid mentioning the fact that Eddie had multiple mistresses while they were married, especially when she’s asked about the whole reason that we know who she is, but I’m glad she’s past the point where she’s calling out mistresses by name. And “mangina” is just sort of juvenile, which is probably why it made me smile.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I feel bad for her because she’s so obviously insecure.
On another note, I hate it when guys tuck button-down shirts into jeans.
I agree. She says things simply for shock value (Mangina) plus the mention of breaking up with a BF over text because he was annoying. It’s pathetic that she acts like a rambunctious teenager. This is coming from someone who despises LR and her cult of delusion.
eh, at least he’s wearing a belt. I hate a tucked-in shirt with no belt.
yup, that’s all I got.
Yes I saw one rerun from the past season and was shocked at how insecure Brandi comes off and defensive, even when the other ladies are trying to just hold a casual conversation with her, she would throw unnecessary insults at them, for no reason. I just found her behavior sad.
She was such a beautiful lady, she has ruined her face with those harsh injections. She should stop and get her naturalness back.
What’s up with her forehead? She looks a bit like a ventriloquist doll..
What the hell is wrong with her eyes?
blue contacts…they do look kind of freaky.
Totally freaked me out. I can’t tell if she has contacts though or it’s too much white eyeliner. Whatever it is – she looks terrible.
Can I just say that for someone who loves to make digs at others appearances, she has by far the worst hair I have ever seen? It’s never – and I mean never – looked good. Who the heck is doing her hair and why does she continue to wear it like a 90s-competing-in-a-mall-beauty-pageant-contestant?
Brandi is so beautiful, but these blue contacts are a BIG no-no for her.
Brandi USE TO BE Beautiful. She has ruined her face,ms he now looks like Catwoman surgery, injections!
Sure, Brandi. Ask yourself if it was anything physical. Because that’s all that matters? Couldn’t have been the fact that you use terms like mangina. I almost feel bad for her, she sounds unhappy. But then she talks and I just can’t.
Exactly. Obviously, it’s awful and life-altering to find out your husband is having an affair(s), but a more emotionally mature person with an ounce of depth would recognize that men almost never cheat because they’re no longer physically attracted to their spouse.
It’s sad because she got new boobs, vag rejuvenation, and a new face all because she felt inadequate after the demise of her marriage. Too bad she didn’t look inwards instead of outwards and channeled that energy into something more worthwhile.
So true, Kitten. But I think for a lot of people it’s easier to get a lip job, boob job, insert ridiculous cosmetic procedure here. Introspection, self-refelection and growth — while WAYYYYY more worth-while in the long run — are also harder to accomplish.
It’s sad, because looks will fade eventually. They always do. But what’s inside is eternal.
Sanctimonious advice from someone who obviously has no idea what it feels like to face this kind of thing. It can temporarily cripple the most confident of women, sorry.
I’d call it more common sense than sanctimony Emily, tbh I’m at the point where I’m sick of her failed marriage being the only thing she can talk about.
Everything in her life is a result of the broken marriage and like kitten said a boatload of money has been spent on everything but therapy and finding a happier more productive person inside herself. How long are you supposed to pity that before you challenge her to do better?
Thank you, Eternal Side Eye.
This woman really needs to move on with her life.
Brandistans are just enablers who live for this woman’s perpetual martyrdom.
I am right in the thick of a divorce after discovering my husband was unfaithful.
I think @Kittens advice is spot on! It’s so easy to deal with the superficial as opposed to really digging deep emotionally and assessing what I can do differently to avoid this calamity.
I’m with Emily on this one. Survived infidelity (so far) but I agree, it takes a huge toll on your self-esteem. It’s easy to say rise above, but it hits you on a personal level that makes it not so easy to overcome. Those 3:00 a.m. conversations in your head can be very debilitating.
Yeah because Eddie was so tired of Brandi’s immaturity, what he really wanted was a deep and serious woman with whom he could have discussions about politics and Proust…
Puhhhlease!! he just can’t keep it in his pants and she got tired of it…actually if she didn’t have any self-respect and confidence then she would have completely turned a blind eye and let him do whatever he wanted and still be married to him…
Littlemissnaughty, so….His multiple affairs are her fault, simply for using terms like “mangina”?
Wow…are you Leann?
If he didn’t like her personality, the right thing to do is END THE MARRIAGE then go bang whoever he wanted to.
One cannot say anything negative about Brandi without her fans calling you Leann. Some people think both women are pretty terrible with Leann wearing the crown. Brandi acts like a child though I agree with your point that Eddie should have ended the marriage. He didnt because he is a scumbag but that does not give Brandi license to act like a 13 y/o.
Oh calm down. I think both she and Leann are nuts and Eddie is the douche lettuce in a cray sandwich here. I never said it was her fault. What I was trying to say was that if you proclaim to have gone through this epic journey of discovering that it wasn’t your fault, maybe you could’ve gone further than realizing that no, it wasn’t the way you looked. Maybe she could’ve taken the self examination aaall the way to her abrasive personality while she was at it. Mangina? Really?
I use to feel sympathy for Brandi the first year, but now I think Brandi is in deep need of therapy and has some major issues mentally and she needs to stop the plastic surgery, she is looking like the Catwoman.
IMO Brandi has some emotional issues and she comes off as just very insecure.
She also has a TRASHY Mouth which I hate, she needs to take a vocabulary course to learn more words to express herself than just F…..& F……You!
I thought it was sad that her immediate reaction was essentially “he did it because I wasn’t pretty enough”. Maybe she reflected in other ways that she’s not comfortable sharing that don’t have to do with physical appearance, but based on the plastic surgery and other procedures she’s had……. perhaps not.
People cheat for all kinds of reasons, but that her mind flew to her physical attributes being inadequate says a lot.
To be honest, what woman’s thoughts don’t immediately fly to that? The emotionally mature responses usually evolve at a later date. It sounds like hers did, though only to a certain extent. Because no matter how she pulls and plumps the physical attributes, her ugly still goes all the way to the bone. She is STILL talking badly about her children’s father to the media. How sad.
Sadly Brandi does not have it in her to go beyond the physical. IMO the basis of her relationship with Eddie was their respective good looks and their sexual chemistry. Brandi has not gotten any deeper now that she and Eddie are no longer together and when it comes to relationships for her it is still about looks, sex and oftentimes youth. This woman brags about hooking up with younger men, and wait for it… taunts women who are not that much older than her about the fact that she still gets her period.
“People cheat for all kinds of reasons, but that her mind flew to her physical attributes being inadequate says a lot. ”
unfortunately, for most women, that’s the first thing that they think. yes, I speak from both my own experience and my friends’. when, in reality, (as Kitten the Wise said), it’s very rarely because of physical attributes that a man will cheat.
Well, I think when you’re losing your family and your husband who has cheated on you is telling you that you’re used up, your vagina is stretched out from childbirth, etc., that it’s a little normal to get insecure about your physical attributes. Let’s be real here.
I actually sat and watched the interview and it wasn’t bad. Brandi did not appear drunk. Shatner was a little smarmy, but he always is. Could’ve lived without him requesting Brandi to describe the wine in sexual terms. The boyfriend and the mangina remarks were the only time I winced. She didn’t say anything nasty about E or L; everyone knows that he cheated on her repeatedly. She put the blame on herself for cheating and didn’t say it was because he was a tool or whatever, though that’s ridiculous. People cheat because they have no self control; E should have dumped her if he was that unhappy, but it’s his pattern to be engaged or married and cheat. Yes, Brandi is superficial, and it’s tiresome, but she isn’t pretending to be deep. Yes, I’m sure E is looking for deep, thoughtful women. Sure. And he has ripped her apart repeatedly, making an entire show about insulting her, and encourages his mistress turned wife to do it. So let’s not pretend otherwise.
She can use any terms she wants and should be comfortable being herself! They dated for years before marrying so Eddie knew exactly who she was, he cheated because he’s an as*hole who didn’t leave his unhappy marriage first.
I’m so tired of the idea that women have to behave a certain way, it’s not 1950! Be yourself, if that’s being blunt and talking like a sailor then do it, find someone who appreciates the real you!
Exactly. Somehow people still “blame” her personality for his wandering dong.
Sick of the slut shaming that is done to her on a regular basis, Ediot cheated multiple times when he could have ended his marriage first, and gone on to be with a million people if he wanted to. That is a reflection on HIM, HIS lack of character and HIS personality…not hers!
She didn’t “deserve” anything just by being an outspoken, blunt personality.
Um, no, she can’t use any term she wants without consequences. I can’t call people names just because I married a douche. Or because it’s 2015. If being yourself means being abrasive, fine. But it has nothing to do with feminism, as you’re trying to imply. How is saying things like “Men who cry are p*ssies.” not idiotic? It’s on the same level as mangina. Feelings=weakness=woman. How very 21st century. It’s the opposite of what you’re advocating.
There is no excusing what Eddie did. He’s a creep. period. However, what does that have to do with her being purposely abrasive, always going for shock and drama and unable to argue without going for the jugular and getting loud and belligerant, drinking herself into clothes falling off stupors and bragging about using men as sugar daddies? His lack of morals and cowardice and deciept has nothing to do with Brandi being vulgar, ignorant, and acting like an idiot. They are both creeps for different reasons. And, no, she does not get to say sensitive men are feminine without repurcussions any more than a male celebrity should get away with calling a woman a whore for enjoying sex or initiating it. She uses her body for attention and profit. That is the polar opposite of feminism. Being controversial is the only thing she could come up with for her character on the RHBH. It’s all she’s got and I get that, but I’m not sympathetic to it. She could have gone back to school and got a real job, but she’d rather make easy money being gross and exploiting herself. I’m tired of the single mother crap too. I’ve known alot of single mothers who actually worked their a$$es off at school and in the work place. THEY deserve respect. Brandi is just another quasi-prostitute. No, my name is not Leanne. And no, I am not jealous. I am, however, a working mother myself who has morals and standards.
@ littlemissnaughty: “Feelings=weakness=woman.
Your point resonates with me. Whenever I hear anyone try to insult another person by ascribing them ‘feminine’ attributes, it always makes me pause a moment to cast a skeptical eye on their deep-seated feelings about women in general and aspects of being female in particular.
I admit I do this even when they use jargon of the moment, a term they think is edgy, when they think they are ‘reclaiming’ a word, and when they think they are using it ironically. Imo, there is still something lurking underneath that reveals more than they might have meant… or even know about themselves.
You went a little deeper in your other comments, and I’m not disagreeing with any of it, I was just going by your first one:) my simple point was that women should feel comfortable being themselves, whatever that may be, without fear of being cheated on.
It’s not just that she curses like a sailor or sleeps around. It’s that she is really mean and back stab-y.
I used to feel bad for her, but the more I read about her, the more I realise all these idiots deserve each other.
+1
Yeah. She screams victim but she went along with all his crap for years. I think in the end it turned into a pissing contest between her and the new bride.
Eddie’s just the mangina sitting onthe side holding their purses while they fight it out.
He does escape the scrutiny, doesn’t he? I wonder if his affairs had not been so public (video footage of one; interview with another side piece), if they would have divorced.
I think she might have been willing to ignore it had things not been splashed across the tabloids. I doubt it was the number, but rather the public attention to it.
No, she didn’t go along with it “for years”. In fact she only put up with it for a couple of months after first learning he cheated with Leann, and gave him a second chance. Not long after she heard of Scheana, and then she walked out on Eddie for good.
I thought this was fun, Shatner is just really likeable to me and he was nice to her.
She was cute, and I completely agree on the “making love” thing. ICK do NOT say that to me.
Aww, I think it’s sweet when guys say that. Shows they’re not a douche and have feelings for you. Much better thAn some guy looking for a hole he can stick his d in. Jmo
I’m with you, Snowflake.
Not necessarily. Anyone can use those words and there may be no feeling behind it. Some people just like it a little raunchier, some people like it a little more romantic.
Her ex-husband seems like a tool but I would be lying if I said I couldn’t understand why he would want to be rid of her.
Not that he moved on to someone much better…
What happened to this woman that her maturity is stilted at the level of a 13 year old boy?
She grosses me out on every level. She needs to stop trying so hard.
There will come a day very very soon when her own sons will be more mature, have better filters, and more insight than her.
Can you imagine living with her?!?
Ha – I said the same thing above about her acting like a teenager. She needs to grow up but I won’t be holding my breath.
Seriously “Broke up with him via text on the way here” and if he’d done the same to you you’d have lost your mind on social media and in interviews calling him out.
“You’re a mangina” it sounds mean but I’m guessing there’s very few guys she’s with who actually…like and care for her, if she did manage to get a good guy and he tries to have an vulnerable moment she’d shoot the relationship in the foot with the mangina talk.
She’s at that age (mentally) where all you can do is roll your eyes and sigh deeply.
I find her talk gross too.
Er, Brandi has said her teeth are real. But look at the older pic of her with Eddie. Or any older picture. Her smile was so beautiful, and it looks quite different now. Before, her front teeth were slightly longer than the teeth on the sides of her mouth. These days, all her teeth are the same shape and length. Not natural looking…sorry, off topic.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “mangina” used outside of those awful Red Pill websites.
And in the movie “Step Brothers.” 🙂
Well then she’s reducing men to her own shallow and facile level if she thinks the term “making love” is for pussies. There’s room for both expressions in a healthy relationship but I can tell you if my guy came up to me and held me tenderly and whispered gently in my ear “let’s go f*ck” my heart would not go pitty-pat. Fast-forward a half hour in the throes of passion, the f-word would be just fine.
I don’t condone Brandi labeling the men “manginas” but she also said of these situations, ‘you don’t even know me…” So I can see why she objects to the term “making love” when she’s dealing with some guy she’s known for hours, if not minutes.
She looks like Nikki Cox in that pic with Eddie
Why look at all the judgy comments above: “she’s a quasi-prostitute”, “I have morals and standards”, “she should look within and examine her personality”.
After reading all of the hateful garbage people post, I’m really happy to be who I am.
Non-judgmental.
She’s made no secret of her insecurities as they apply to her looks, she’s never claimed to be a great beauty, she’s made a living for herself, she annoys some people (I get that). The “holier than thou” comments here are really over the top.
“After reading all of the hateful garbage people post, I’m really happy to be who I am.
Non-judgmental.”
(From the commenter who called me “sanctimonious” up thread. LOL)
The nerve of people! I mean, everyone judging a woman who’s made a living airing her dirty laundry and acting like a drunken teenager on reality TV. A woman who’s gleefully offered up personal details about her marriage and her sex life, even at the expense of her children’s privacy, just to make a buck.
And all this judging occurring on a gossip blog no less!!!
😉
Let’s not forget her nasty comments about Joanna Krupa’s noisome lady bits and continuing bear-baiting of Leann on social media. This woman knows no bounds when it comes to shilling her lurid private life to the public in a truly ugly and immature fashion.
commenting on how a woman deals with insecurities after the implosion of her marriage is not cool.
Oh please.
It would be “not cool” if she was a private person who hadn’t made her marriage and the affair that ruined it incredibly public to the point where she even wrote a DAMN BOOK about it FFS.
Sorry but you don’t get to have it both ways, you don’t get to publicly detail every aspect of your marriage and your husband’s affair then expect that people won’t comment about it.
The funniest thing is that Brandistans come out in droves wagging their fingers and trying to silence anyone who criticizes her yet Brandi herself is laughing all the way to the bank because this stupid triangle is the reason why she has a reality TV show, book deals, and the ONLY reason why she’s still relevant.
So please forgive me if I can’t cry for a woman who was cheated on SIX years ago and managed to parlay that into a lucrative (if incredibly sleazy) career.
@Jaded-Yup. Brandi is crass as hell and sorry but if she’s gonna dish it, she needs to learn how to take it as well.
I hope she IS laughing all the way to the bank.
Why not?
She married a complete creep, got burned, and has to deal with LR constantly attempting to co-opt her kids.
Of course its why she’s still relevant. We are all commenting on her, so she’s doing her job.
Who cares? I don’t begrudge her success.
Plus, (and this was a real shock to me), the wine is actually really good.
@Mollie-Sure, I don’t begrudge her either, especially if she’s making solid wine.
My point was that it’s completely disingenuous to make it seem like she became successful in spite of her ex-husband’s affair, when the reality is that she became successful BECAUSE of it.
Let’s just stop with the *phoenix rising from the ashes* nonsense already.
…so is there trade-in value for obsessively defending her. Like can you send in “I defended Brandi Glanville” points for a free decoder ring?
I jest but you’re aggressively trying to make everyone the bad guy for using terms and logic an adult woman should be able to handle. Furthermore what you’re doing and saying is the exact opposite of non-judge mental…like complete opposite. You’re judging everyone else for not lying at her feet and worshipping her.
Nope, I’m not judging you, I’m just happy to be me, that’s all.
You are free to say and do what you want.
I get why people find her annoying, but to call her a “quasi prostitute” is problematic.
Saying you are really happy to be who you are based on how you feel about others comments is deeming yourself superior because you’re not judging Brandi but you are judging commenters based on their comments alone – is that not judgemental as well? I guess if prioritizing the wholesomeness of your’s/my/her’s kids’ lives when considering how to make a living and what we put out there for the world to see and possibly/most likely things that would get back to our kids some day some way, if that makes me sanctimonious, I’ll take that.
If you make money exploiting yourself, use sex to have your bills paid by older rich men, it’s generous to deem that “quasi” when in fact it is just making a living the old fashioned way. So, she doesn’t label herself in those terms and she doesn’t advertise herself as an escort. Splitting hairs doesn’t make it anly less a form of prostitution. I find it problematic that anyone upon hearing of her antics would find her merely annoying.
@Kitten, Absolutely she has made her career because of what happened to her. Agreed.
I say, why not? Something good came out of it, anyway. She just doesn’t bother me at all. I like the self deprecating way she speaks about herself, “I’m not an actor”, “I didn’t know much about wine, I chose it because of the label, so I took my favorites to them and said can you make it taste like these for 1/2 the price?” “I’m not a face model” “I’ve got a huge zit to cover up”….she just seems real to me and trying to keep up in a world where she doesn’t have it as easy as everybody else.
Just my opinion.
I just find that appealing. She doesn’t try to pretend to be anything she’s not. She just…is, like it or hate it.
To each his own.
I’m also pretty liberal when it comes to sex, and while I’m not outspoken, it doesn’t bother me at all that other people are, so I’m just sort of cheering on her accomplishments. Full disclosure: I have disliked LeAnn Rimes for years before this mess occurred and I’m sure that sways my opinion.
Yes, at least Brandi shows glimmers of self-awareness, unlike Rhimes who exists in a bubble of delusion.
Why is she still whining about this? It all happened years ago – what more is to say?!? She is hardly blameless in their separation… can it, woman!
She was ASKED about it in her interview with William Shatner. She was responding to a direct question.
The expression “make love” makes me cringe. Ugh.
Exactly. It’s gross. At least she is right about something.
She sent Joanna Kupra’s table fish at a restaurant a couple weeks ago. She’s so juvenile.
People say crap all the time. Doesn’t make it true. It always surprises me that people will believe whatever, whenever, just because it came out of someone’s mouth.
Well it fits with her mouth and actions, I believe it. Seems totally in character
First of all, Brandy, thank ” The Mighty Boosh”. Second, everyone and their dog is sick of your whining. Grow up, girl.
> I want to make love to you’ I’m like ‘You don’t even know me. You’re a mangina.’”
Gee, ok, I can see where she is coming from. She has sex for the act itself, she doesn’t want to know her partner. One-night stand lady, fine. She just needs to be clear about it with her partners. It sounds like they are confused about her expectations.
She’s clear about the distinction between sex for the act itself and sex in love in the video with Shatner.
She could stop talking at any time. She just needs to crawl under a rock and stay there.
Sounds like an abrasive personality coupled with intimacy issues to me.
I still feel for the boys. When they get older become men what will they think and how will they behave towards women and treat them.i think Brandi needs more help then Leanne or Eddie .
I disagree – Leann is the sickest of the bunch. She is truly a sociopath.
Brandi is just insecure and really immature.
BG displays traits of a sociopath
They both do which also implies Eddie must be attracted to that.
LeAnn is very unstable and does some of the craziest things I’ve ever seen, something is very wrong with that woman.
Life has taken a negative turn for Brandi of late 1- she has to move again 2- the judge dismissed her motion to deny in the Krupa lawsuit 3- her son broke his arm last week 4- she broke up with JR via text 5- her RHBH return status is up in the air.
The lawsuit will be the item that makes her watch her mouth. Now what a welcome turn of events that would be.
Actually, he broke his arm while with his dad.
Women are just now understanding that looks are not everything. In Brandis defense , most women her age and younger are bombarded with pictures in magazines telling them what beautiful. Let’s face it , no matter how many “inspirational ” articles are in said magazines , it’s photo spreads and the makeup ads that brainwash women . Why is the makeup / fashion / diet industry making billions of dollars …?
Because many women would rather feel / look what they’ve been TOLD is beautiful.
Women are the only ones that never got the memo that it’s not about looks most of the time when men cheat.
I have never known any cheater who cheated with a woman better looking than his wife. Quite the opposite, the women tend to be insecure and less of a looker than the wife. Seems to be more about hooking up with someone who thinks the guy is a big deal, has no expectations of him, and doesn’t know him and his flaws. The attraction is that the woman boosts his ego and makes him feel like a big deal. But it’s only because the women don’t really know him and they’ll take whatever they can get because at that point, they do think he’s a big deal.
I think there’s a lot of truth to what you say, although I think that there exists a myriad of reasons as to why someone might cheat.
+1000
She had him at his best looking.
The same for him with her. He had Brandi at her best looking. Brandi has hit the wall with all of that filler and botox.
Ah the Aniston consolation.
Wow. I have been looking for a Great Sage of This Age, and I think I found one here. Never stop talking, Brandi.
Um…I kind of agree with her. “Making love” makes me cringe! I can’t deal with that certain kind of whispering romantic man at all, makes me recoil! And if guys are acting douchey why not dump them by text? I’m kind of team Brandi in this situation even though she’s a hot drunk mess. But girl sheesh let your face alone, I was just watching RHOBH (U.K pace…a season or two old?) and she looks majorly tweaked even since then. Way too young for all that filler, it’s wrecking her face.
I’m not a Brandi fan AT ALL but wow she and Eddie were a gorgeous couple back in the day. Damn.
I love Brandi because I relate to her, somehow. On the surface, we are nothing alike, but I’ve got two boys who are now teens (and a new bub) and I see in her a vulnerability that makes me really empathize with her.
That vulnerability stems from a whole lot of passion for your kids, self doubt, loneliness, fear, insecurity, grief for what’s been lost with the breakdown of one’s marriage and so on and so forth.
I’m no longer a single mum and have married the greatest bloke in the world but when I was it was like pushing a boulder uphill every single freaking day.
But Brandi has an added thorn in her side and that is the dastardly Leann who thinks nothing of persecuting Brandi on a daily basis. Leann is a total psycho and if my kids had a step mum like her, Id probably be incarcerated by now.
But whatevs. We don’t know these people. But I’ll always give B a pass for what she’s gone through with the she devil that is Rimes and the ultimate deadshit that is Eddie.
I love that you use the word dastardly. 🙂 And I’m so glad your story has a happy ending. I can’t stand how people say that E was justified in his cheating. What did his ex-fiancée do it deserve it? What did Dean do to deserve the cheating? Brandi needs to change the need for badasses and think about what she gets out of relationships. She seems to seek very positive relationships with friends, and I’m not talking about the fake friends on TV. She needs male versions of her close friends.