Daily Mail: Carole & Michael Middleton will get titles when Charles is king

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I know I’m going to catch hell for this, but for my money, Carole Middleton is a much better dresser than either of her daughters. Carole manages to look occasion-appropriate and age-appropriate almost always. If I had to complain about anything, it’s that she sometimes veers into looks that are “too young” but even then… she’s a pretty spry, youthful 60 year old, so she pulls it off most of the time. While Duchess Kate wore a conservative red dress to Wimbledon yesterday, Carole came out in this utterly adorable, summery shirtdress. THIS is what Kate should have worn. It’s lovely.

Ever since then-Kate Middleton married Prince William, there’s been speculation as to whether the Middletons – Carole and Michael – will be given some kind of title. Because it’s seen as unseemly in some circles that the mother of a future queen and grandmother of a future king would be an un-titled commoner. Well, now Daily Mail gossip guy Ephrain Hardcastle (my DM gossip name would be Kaisleigh Biscuitthrust) claims that Carole and Michael will definitely get a title… when Charles is king.

Whither the status of Michael Middleton, father of future Queen Kate, grandfather of future King George? Royals normally marry each other, or someone from the nobility with titles and a distinguished pedigree, otherwise they improve the rank of incomers. Princess Margaret’s untitled husband, Antony Armstrong-Jones, was ennobled as Earl of Snowdon to give their children titles.

So it is likely that Michael Middleton will be offered an earldom, making his wife Carole a countess, his son, James, a viscount and his daughter, Pippa, a lady. But there’s no rush.

‘Michael’s still getting used to having a coat of arms, so the expectation is that the earldom might be offered as part of a tranche of appointments made when Charles becomes king,’ a source suggests.

[From The Daily Mail]

Yes, it’s good to wait. It’s also possible that the royals are waiting to see if the Middletons’ marriage survives much longer. I think Carole and Michael did hit a rough patch, but Carole thankfully realized that her place isn’t micromanaging her daughter’s life. Right? Hopefully. Maybe. Who knows?

Incidentally, we learned something new about Prince George and what he calls Carole and Queen Elizabeth. Apparently, George calls Carole “grandma” and he calls the Queen “nanny”. Will and Harry call their grandmother “Granny”. Just FYI.

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  1. BearcatLawyer says:

    An earldom? Ha. I don’t buy this for a minute.

    • Denisemich says:

      The Queen seems to be in good health. So, if they live long enough to see Charles or George become King.

      • Kiki04 says:

        My only response to everything royal is that I hope QE2 never dies……..is that really too much to ask?

  2. Julie says:

    “when Charles is king”

    thats a passive aggressive way of saying NEVARRRRRR!

  3. COSquared says:

    In your diamond-encrusted dreams, Ma Middy. I bet she’s the “source”.

    • Olenna says:

      Agree. This is the second or third time the DM has run a Middleton title story since before the wedding, and I’ve always thought Carole was the source. I think she wants a title so badly, she can’t let stop throwing the hint out there.

      • Olenna says:

        Correction: she can’t stop throwing the hint out there.

      • Subconciously says:

        They are trying to get the people getting used to that idea. They will run it a few more times till nobody takes offense at the suggestion of turning the Midds into aristos.

        Btw. If the Middleton parents get titles then do Kate’s siblings get titles, too?

      • Olenna says:

        @Subconciously, I’m not the expert on peerages, but I think the siblings get courtesy titles (like Lord and Lady) that are based on the parents’ rank.

      • Feeshalori says:

        James would become a viscount since he’d inherit the title on Michael’s death while Pippa would get the title of lady.

    • Dani L. says:

      I LOL’d so hard at “Ma Middy”

  4. Jan says:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  5. NewWester says:

    But wouldn’t giving a title to the Middletons be up to Prince William when he becomes King? In Princess Margret’s case her sister was already Queen when Margaret married Antony.

    • COSquared says:

      I don’t see why Earl Snowdon was mentioned. Too irrelevant to the Middy-peer-wannabe non-situation.

      • NewWester says:

        I agree

      • Becks says:

        And besides, clearly the title was created and given for the purpose of passing on titles to Margaret’s subsequent children.

        I believe the idea was to create a level of parity between the children of the 2 sisters, as otherwise, one set of cousins would all be Princes and Princesses, and the other set….no-titled commoners.

        This is hardly the concern with the Middletons. It’s not at all justifiable.

  6. Sixer says:

    Nonsense. They only elevate spouses to get some – equally nonsensical – parity between them.

    My DM gossip name would be (Wo)man-the-Barricades F*ckpuddle. Or something.

    • COSquared says:

      The Honourable Elviva Frontbottom-Loo.

    • LAK says:

      Rita Skeeter 4EVAH.

    • Sixer says:

      Gah. No fair. You two have better names than I do.

    • anne_000 says:

      Yes. The spouses. So why would they give the Middletons a title? Kate already has a title. What is giving the MIddletons a title going to do for her or the grandkids? Nothing much, I would think.

    • Lahdidahbaby says:

      My weekday title will be Lady Frockbottom of Menses-on-Thyme. On Sundays, just a simple Her Holiness will do.

  7. Nicole says:

    I want William to run away with Carole. I know that makes me a bad person, but there it is. Comeon, you know it would be the Best. Gossip. EVER.

    • Em' says:

      I second that !

    • Dena says:

      Nicole. I will never forgive you for suggesting that😄 I know have an image of them in my head. I came here for relaxation but as soon as I read what you wrote I got a mental image of Carole sitting on the side of the ducal bed in her slip, taking a deep drag from a cigarette and rolling her eyes as William, naked & lounging against the bed pillows, pleads with her to not leave & to come back to bed. “Carole . . .he tentatively places his hand on her shoulder which she just barely tolerates. . . “No Moma . . . ” an eye roll accompanied by a drag from her cigarette and an exaggerated sigh as she exhales the smoke . . . “please, I beg you. Come back to bed. I promise to go the my father tomorrow . . .” Head titled. An arch look. Cigarette at her mouth, held between the v of her fingers. “Your father? No. The Queen. You will go to the Queen tomorrow” . . . “Please. Carole. Moma. I need you. Please. Please. Tomorrow. I will go. I need you. You are the one I have always needed. Please.” With one last drag from her cigarette, she turns to William, looks him the eyes, and says “tomorrow and you will say it exactly as I have told you to say it.” Yes, he says, as he drops his head in acquiescence. ” Yes, just come back to bed. Please, Moma. Come back to bed and hold me. Hold me like no other. Just hold me and I will do what you want. Please. Before the others return.” Carole, lounges back onto the bed, out-stretches her arms and says “come to Moma. Let Moma give you what you need.”😳😝. That scene or there abouts flashed across my thoughts.

  8. Talie says:

    I mean, Princess Anne didn’t give her kids titles, which would’ve been more radical at that time. I don’t think the public cares.

    • FLORC says:

      I don’t think that’s a true comparison.
      And I think the public aren’t fans of the Midds and wouldn’t quietly accept them getting titles. Though, they wouldn have no say in it. No denying though. The Midds want titles. PR image rehab, signet rings, Estate residence. They want it and in time they will get it.

  9. Betti says:

    I like Carole’s dress and Carole is what Kate will look like in a few years – you can see the resemblance in some of those shots.

    As for the title – sure they will get one eventually but it won’t come from Charles, it will come from Willy (at Kate’s beckoning). And I’ll bet Uncle Gary will get one too – as am pretty sure that’s what was dangled in front of him to get him to fund Waity during the gf years and help the family woo Willy.

    I don’t think the Cambridge marriage will last until Willy takes the throne – maybe until the kids are grown up but he will eventually find real love (maybe he and Jecca finally hook up like Charles did with Camilla) – he is doomed to repeat his father’s mistakes. I think TQ will be around for at least another 10 years, Chuck will rule for about 20 yrs as he’ll be well into his 70’s when he ascends. Willy will be in his early 60s when it’s his turn.

    • COSquared says:

      I’d say Uncle Gary will nada. Something along the lines of access-to-BP-or-I’ll spill-all-your-dirty-secrets? Maybe. Considering the non-relationship between MiddletonManor/Anmer Hall and Clarence House, I doubt it’d be King Charles who’ll ennoble them.

      • aquarius64 says:

        Agreed. Charles supposedly doesn’t like the Middleton influence on George, and most likely on Charlotte.

      • Betti says:

        Gary is the one that can ruin the family’s good fortune and any revelations about him would be the final nail in the coffin for Kate’s already very damaged image. The press are bound to be sitting on some doozy’s – like they did with Heather Mills when she was married to Paul McCartney. They’d known for years that she was a lying hooker and had the evidence to prove it.

      • LadyoftheLoch says:

        There are many stories of his antics at St. Andrews which I’ve heard from people who witnessed him in action and he definitely was no angel as an undergraduate. Nothing truly outrageous, but plenty of louche behaviour bordering on obnoxious. Always alcohol fuelled. He was a student, so not really surprising. He was certainly the centre of attention wherever he went and pretty girls made a beeline for him. Kate was usually absent when he let loose, or was lost in the throng of hangers-on. She wasn’t a noticeable presence. William always gave the impression of being single and very ready to mingle, at least on nights out with friends.
        (I could go into more detail, but won’t as these stories were passed on by a family member and a couple of close friends of hers, and it would be a betrayal of trust.)

      • LadyoftheLoch says:

        Merde! Above comment was in response to Talie and LAK and somehow ended up in the wrong place.

    • Em' says:

      I don’t know about their marriage not lasting. I think Kate has been very well trained. And she didn’t wait for ten years only to become the Duchess of Cambridge. She wll want to be Princess of Wales and Queen Catherine.

      • Olenna says:

        Ditto. I think Kate’s in this for the long haul, no matter what. William couldn’t buy her out if he tried. And, she’ll try to have at least 2 more kids to make it even harder; it’ll be cheaper to keep her.

      • notasugarhere says:

        When William falls in love with someone else, that will be the end. “He loves, loves her very much, but to this day he isn’t in love with her.” – James Whittaker on W&K.

      • Em' says:

        Had Diana been the “quiet and proper little lady” Charles and the Queen thought she was, had she done the “expected” thing and look the other way… they might not have divorced.
        Kate will look the other way. IMO William can have all the side pieces he wants, as long as she got to the title, he is in the clear.
        And he loves her way more than Charles ever liked Diana.

    • Talie says:

      William has never shown one bit of self-destructive behavior, unlike his brother. I think he’ll be sticking it out with Kate.

      • LAK says:

        William’s self destructive behaviour barely gets a mention and is often scrubbed before it gains a foothold in the press unlike his brother.

      • Betti says:

        I agree with LAK – Willy’s self destructive behaviour is covered up by the press and palace PR (throwing Harry under the bus as a distraction).

        I think that throwing off public duties and vacationing etc.. instead is destructive behaviour – he’s ruining the image and future of not only himself but the BRF.

        Kate will never go away quietly but Willy is too like his father and married out of a sense of duty and not real love. You can see that while he cares very much for Kate he doesn’t love her (see the recent Swedish Royal Wedding for what i mean – THAT is a couple in love) in the way that she does, she worships the ground he walks on.

        At some point he will stray and NOT go back to her.

      • Talie says:

        I just think some people on here give William too much credit for being some undercover Don Juan. He seems very square to me. Always has, in fact.

      • LAK says:

        Talie: i’m not saying that William is an undercover Don Juan, just as Harry isn’t the ‘party prince’.

        The point is that William’s high jinks are not available for public consumption like Harry, and both brothers have admitted in video interviews that William is worse than Harry.

        Further, Harry’s high jinks are no more terrible than many boys/men at the same stage in life. His are splashed all over media which magnifies them.

        William’s dorky, square image is just that, an image. If you know where to look, which isn’t very far, you’ll find examples of William’s high jinks.

    • Natalie says:

      And Carole will be in her 90s so if she wants to enjoy her title any sooner than that, she’ll have to play nice with Charles. He can just trickle honors to them using the Victorian Order before they get a proper peerage.

  10. LAK says:

    They won’t let this balloon go….

    Every year we get this story.

    What’s interesting is this year Charles is being dragged into it.

    The same Charles who was complaining a few weeks ago about the Middletons.

    Let’s suppose this is true (NOT), is this promise payment for the Middletons finally including him in playtime with the grandkids? You know, that thing where charles wouldn’t go to the mountain and so the mountain went to Charles?

    If true (NOT), it’s very shrewd of the Middletons to recognise that Charles not William will get them their longed for titles. The system doesn’t work that way, but you know Charles is good about getting what he wants – see Camilla.

    As for MM just getting used to his COA….hahahahaha…

    And if he didn’t want one, they wouldn’t have applied for one as a family. They would have been content with Kate receiving one due to *her* marrying a royal as per norm and left it at that.

    • COSquared says:

      Any theory as to why Charles not William? I mean… they happily bow to his whiny greatness. So wouldn’t he toss an earldom at MM to thank/keep them being accomadating to his will.

      • LAK says:

        William can only work the system to acquire his personal whims. He doesn’t know how to lobby for others. Charles does. Maybe the Middletons finally realised this.

        Of course this story is BS, BUT if I were the Middletons lobbying for a title, i’d get Charles on side, not William.

      • Feeshalori says:

        And also Charles would come to the throne before William, health permitting, so the Midds would be wiser to schmooze with the man who would give them the coveted titles while they’re still young enough to enjoy them. But I take this story with a grain of salt.

    • LadyoftheLoch says:

      It’s the DM, which has become an irksome rag, so who knows…?

      If there’s any speck of truth to this and the Middletons are pitching for a peerage through William (who else?) and if Charles is even so much as considering it as a future possibility, then just kill me now.

      Countess Carole. Pshaw!

      • aquarius64 says:

        The Middletons will still be seen as social climbing trash. No title is going to change that. Sophie, Countess of Wessex’s family didn’t get peerage when she married Edward.

        Sidenote: will Edward get the title Duke of Edinburgh when Phillip passes? I thought I read that somewhere.

      • COSquared says:

        Aquarius, it’s more or less a promise rather than a given when PP dies. If up to HM:very likely. If up to the POW: quite unlikely. JMO.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think it is intended but not a given. The title goes back to the monarch, and the monarch gets to choose whether or not to award it. It isn’t an hereditary title. With all of his work with the Duke of Edinburgh Awards it would make sense, but it isn’t guaranteed.

      • FLORC says:

        Because these stories are often being floated out there it does make you wonder.

        Also, I’ve suspected IF they were to get titles, maybe it will take longer than a title of choice becoming free? Maybe the powers that can decide this are waiting to see if the marriage lasts.
        Just for speculation sake/worst case scenerio.
        A divorce. A very massive Midds scandal. Something the press take and run with over burying. Yes, George their grandson would still be in line to be King, but would the BRF still have felt good about giving titles to a family that could tarnish their name (in a very messy way)?
        No matter how things go, I doubt it will happen before George turns 18. This is just a waiting game.

        P.S. I wonder if any books will come out within the next decade or so from former Midd staff. Like those hired before they moved to their current residence and/or before any confi contracts were signed.

      • LadyoftheLoch says:

        FLORC: Yes, I believe there’s a lot hanging in the balance and time will tell on whether the marriage even lasts. As for any title, Charles is unlikely to throw them that particular bone for at least another 15 years, so it won’t happen overnight but rather as a culmination of the drip-drip method of torture campaign waged by the Middletons through William via Kate, and lots of jumping through hoops and public displays of general kiss-uppery. It’s the ultimate Middleton wet dream, so I believe it’s a long term goal of theirs, but it all remains to be seen as to whether Kate and William last the course.

        PS: I’d also love to get my hands on a tell-all by an ex Midd employee, lol. Titled, “My Life as a Middleton Warehouse Flunkey” “Party in Pieces” or even “Down and Dirty With Mistress Middleton” (the last one being by the disgruntled ex gardener of course.)

    • Betti says:

      I forgot about the COA – that whole episode was soooo cringeworthy in their desperation to be part of the privilege set. They want a title bad – the COA/signet rings with the family ‘crest’ on them proves that.

      That family are shameless in their quest for social superiority over everyone else.

      I wonder if Mike Tindall’s family applied for one. LOL

      • Kaianne says:

        @aquarius64 Yes, Prince Edward would eventually succeed to the title Duke of Edinburgh, currently held by his father. In my calculation won’t be that long due to Prince Phillip getting on with age and ill health.

    • Becks says:

      Obviously none of us know the dynamics in that family, but MM seems very much a husband who sits back and lets his wife run the family as she sees fit. He probably has little idea of what’s brewing in Carole’s head as she stays awake half the night running schematics in her head.

      If she woke up one day and said, “See here, we are getting a Coat of Arms, and signet rings”, would MM gainsay her?

      • COSquared says:

        MM’s response:”See here, you’re starting to look crazy, sweetie. Our snowflake marrying the heir is quite enough now,lovey.”

      • Natalie says:

        I don’t know -I think Pippa gets her more openly assertive personality from Carole and Kate is quiet and stubborn like Michael. Michael is more in the background (like Kate) but he seems as competitive and ambitious as Carole based on some of his behavior during the engagement.

      • Olenna says:

        ITA, Natalie. I’ve never thought MM was the unassuming simpleton he makes out to be.

      • Natalie says:

        Right, so far Michael has sailed through with all the same perks as Carole and almost none of the scruitiny or criticism.

    • bluhare says:

      I last recall it when Kate was pregnant with George. With George being the only King who could have un-titled grandparents. How horrible! It didn’t go anywhere, obviously, but I can’t help but think that they do want a title. If you read that book about Kate by Katie Nicholl she talks about Carole’s mother as a huge snob and social climber. Apples have a tendency to fall close to the tree.

      Interestingly I think Michael Middleton’s the only one who doesn’t wear the signet ring the rest of them do.

  11. The Original Mia says:

    Right…Charles doesn’t give a fig about the Midds and their social climbing. They’ll have to wait for William to be granted a title, which will definitely go against their “middle class”, normalcy schtick.

  12. HK9 says:

    You know what??? I do think Carole does dress better than her daughters most of the time and if I can pull that off at 60, I’ll be really happy. As for the title, I wouldn’t bet on it. 🙂

    • notasugarhere says:

      You must have missed the orange or hot pink one-shouldered minidress, complete with slit showing off her spanx. Sometimes she dresses well, sometimes she really misses the mark and dresses far too young.

  13. net22 says:

    I’d like to comment on the dress ‘issue’ that was brought up. I strongly assume I’m in the minority but I find Kate Middleton doesn’t dress all that great (or ‘stunningly’) and I sure as heck don’t get everyone running out and buying the same thing she wore and the same thing her kid wears. Don’t people have their own sense of style and individuality? I personally always liked Mary, Crown Princess of Denmark dress style, but I still wouldn’t go out and buy what she wears either.

    • COSquared says:

      There’s a confession at Royal Confessions(tumblr) that dishes that the confessor, an employee at a retailer, says that the PR team for that retailer decided to send a statement out saying that a piece seen being worn by George had sold out. In fact, it hadn’t but PR believe it’d bring more publicity to the brand by claiming it had…hmmm…

    • Deedee says:

      A lot of her stuff sells out because it was available in very limited quantity already, esp, if it’s a dress from a previous season. And her plain bespoke stuff is not available to the masses. Kate seems to be taking some cues from Mary, and even wore the same jacket Mary wore on one occasion. The other problem with copying Kate’s clothes is that most are impractical for career wear. Kate’s got some 70+ coatdresses at this point. I could get some use out of one.

    • MinnFinn says:

      net22 – I think the women who buy Kate’s (and Pippa’s) clothes have a very infantile desire to be just like Kate similar to a young child dressing up in mommy’s clothes. A psychologist could give more insight on how and why a grown person acquires such a bizarre obsession with a celebrity.

  14. Natalie says:

    If this is coming from the Middletons, then they need to follow Kate’s example and learn to wait. It would be totally tone-deaf to give them titles until W and K start working more, and James and Pippa settle down a bit. They have to prove themselves as favorable to the general image of the monarchy, and not as in competition with Windsor interests or as pushy and grasping.

    They may win small battles like skipping Christmas celebrations and dominating access to G and C but they’ll be so unpopular that they’ll lose the war -until William becomes king and gives them whatever they want.

  15. sage says:

    But what does Prince George call Camilla?

  16. Iknowwhatboyslike says:

    God, everytime I see Carole, I can see the gleam of triumph in her eyes. Can she at least tone done the congratulatory beaming. You did it! You pimped your daughter and now she will be Queen. The Middleton’s played a game that has been part of history for years. Put your pretty daughter in front of a needy powerful man and watch your fortunes rise.

    Besides that, I teared up when I read that Prince George calls Carole “Grandma”. I couldn’t help but to think about Diana and how great of a grandmother she would have been to the children.

    • Becks says:

      Agree. Not to mention that Diana would have been the younger, more fun Grandma. She would have been 54 to Carole’s 60.

    • Suze says:

      I like how Carole dresses and she is indeed a very fit sixty year old.

      I just can’t look into her eyes too long – and that’s only in photos. She has the opposite of a warm and welcoming demeanor.

  17. Becks says:

    If there is any truth to this story that once Prince Charles ascends the throne, he will give Carole her title, then Queen Elizabeth better not venture down any dark alleyways with Carole…just sayin’.

  18. ickythump says:

    I would welcome titles if they are as follows: Earl and Countess of Smugface, Viscount Marshmallow and Lady Pipsqueak…

  19. wow says:

    This could happen. I use to think that William would never marry Waity and yet we see how that turned out. The Queen more than likely won’t be around much longer even if she dies “naturally”, so I can see them being given titles either by Charles or William.

    And just like people loathed William marrying Kate, they will get over it if The Middletons are given titles to.

    I definitely want to see Sassy Carole be titled a Countess. Michael already looks like a titled man which proves that one doesn’t need a title to be classy.

  20. j.eyre says:

    Yes, but George intends to revoke those titles if he doesn’t get that red tricycle he’s being eyeing.

  21. MyLittlePony says:

    Not going to happen 😀 William is the only king who might give the Mids a title, I think, but by that time Kate’s parents are likely to have died of old age presuming, of course, that Charles has his mother’s longevity genes etc.

    • TessD says:

      why is William the only “king” who can give them the title? I totally see Charles doing it.

  22. MissyD says:

    For some reason, they remind me of the parents of Emily (of “Friends” and of Ross saying “I take thee, Rachel”)

  23. anne_000 says:

    I like Carole’s dress, but why did she not button it up one button more? Kinda low.

    I don’t know why it would be necessary to give the Middletons a title. The article says “incomers” but is that what they are?

    Also, I don’t know why Charles would want to.

  24. bettyrose says:

    What if you just legally change your name to duchess of Bucklebury or whatever? I get that doesn’t make you a peer, but can’t you call yourself whatever you want? I mean, if a title is what you reeeeeeally want out if life.

  25. ISee says:

    Give it up Carol, its not going to happen.

  26. MickeyM says:

    Carole DOES dress better than her daughters. The shirtdress is modern. She should switch wardrobes with Kate.

  27. seesittellsit says:

    Which would just point up how empty and meaningless it all is.

    • bettyrose says:

      You mean if pimping out your daughter to the most eligible bachelor earns you a title then titles aren’t worth much? In all fairness, many a dignitary /royal has traded a daughter to secure land rights or avert wars.

  28. HoustonGrl says:

    If the middletons do get a title, it should come from the queen herself, otherwise people won’t accept it. Charles is already unpopular, and probably doesn’t want to do something controversial right off the bat. If William bestows it, it will make the middletons look like they asked for one, which would be too desperate.

  29. Citresse says:

    I like the Middleton parent’s look. It’s kind of countrified casual chic. Michael is like a newscaster, looks formal from waist up. Carole’s dresses are understated and I often like her choice of shoes; casual yet refined, yet not flashy.

    • FLORC says:

      Carole has really nice style the majority of time. Very few misses imo.
      I’m always pleased with her shoes too.
      I like your summation of their styles. Fitting.

      • Citresse says:

        FLORC
        I especially liked Carole’s choice of attire for the W&K wedding. But I wasn’t fond of Kate’s outfit post wedding party when she and William walked the lawn. She wore the dark jacket with a too short blue dress. Different textures and the dreaded wedges. Hopefully now the wedges have been put away permanently.

      • FLORC says:

        Citresse
        Carole’s wedding outfit and this christianing were great imo. And the post outfit was odd. I wondered if it didn’t photograph well because of the textures.
        And while I think wedges are not for any formal occasions they are for lawn wear.

        And Kate is showing herself to favor flats a lot more. Goodbye wedges?

  30. Sam says:

    For crying out loud Charles isn’t handing out a ‘tranche of appointments’ ie. titles, when he becomes King. He’s got major plans to downsize the existing royal family as is, he’s not expanding the nobility by titling the Middletons. Why not enoble most of Camilla’s fam first? Her kids, cousins, etc. Not happening.

    The Queen enobled Tony Armstrong-Jones back in the early 60s, a different time and era. He also marryied her more-royal-than-royal sister Margaret, who would have insisted on his title and her children therefore be titled. That was acceptable in those times. She’s rumored to have offered Mark Phillips an earldom, which he and Anne wisely turned down. That was in ’74, 40 years ago.

    Those two men married Princesses of the blood, daughters of monarchs. Mike & Carol are doing no such thing, their daughter is future Queen Consort and has been titled via her marriage. As in- laws they aren’t entitled to expect anything like this, they’ve already reaped major benefits from their royal association and that will remain their reward.

    I doubt William will entertain the idea either. No doubt he’ll be spoiling Ma and Pa M in various other ways which will more than make up for no title/s.

  31. Aurelia says:

    Excuse a moi but Mrs Shand-Kydd (Diana’s mother) was the mother of a future queen, grandmother of a future heir and was just plain Mrs Shand-Kydd. So why is this myth perpetuated all the time? Lord Snowdon was given a title, notice his parents and other hangers on – siblings were not handed titles.

    It would be a cold day in hell before Chuck and Cam gave Ma chiavelli and the rest of the Meddleton’s even more reason to lord it about. Snort, snort. Keep dreaming. I would say the suggestion of titles is put out there by Ma chiavelli’s PR. If you say it enough, people might start to belive it. Just like New Zealand changing our flag. That ain’t gunna happen either.

    • Jan says:

      Love what you did there with the Ma chiavelli…very clever. And
      so true.

    • Feeshalori says:

      Actually, Frances Shand-Kydd had the title of Countess Spencer but was divorced when Diana was a child and became plain Mrs. upon her second marriage. Had she remained to Johnny Spencer, she would have still been titled at the time of Diana’s marriage. But I certainly do agree that the Middletons don’t deserve to have titles at all.

  32. Ankhel says:

    Can’t the Middleton’s just do something worthwile for their local community, and be seriously charitable? Nobody would react much to their being given a knighthood then, it’s the common practice. I don’t see them entering the high nobility anyway.

  33. Aurelia says:

    For a hot minute I thought I liked Ma Chavs sandals. But then I saw they were freaking WEDGES.

    • Citresse says:

      Aurelia
      I seriously thought the wedge look was out by end of SEP 2014. But then you know sometimes the French and their in- styles can persist and/or change so the wedge look may have died and risen quickly around other parts of Europe.
      As far as footwear, I hope the Dutch keep their clogs. They hit big late 70s pretty much everywhere. But I’m hoping now they RIP.

  34. Aurelia says:

    That’s semantics. Mrs Shand-Kydd was an untitled commoner to her grandson William, heir to the throne. Countess Spencer was passed to Raine who took the title upon marriage.

    • Feeshalori says:

      Yes, I’m aware that Raine was the second Countess Spencer. Semantics or not, the reality is that Frances, upon losing her title due to divorce and remarriage, never received her own title as grandmother to a future king. Her second husband was never ennobled either so that they wouldn’t remain commoners. Obviously, it wasn’t deemed necessary to give her a title, and this push to have the Middletons receive one as well is probably a lost cause, too.