Mindy Kaling: ‘Insults about the way I look can’t be the thing that harms me’

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Mindy Kaling is promoting her new book, Why Not Me?, plus the new season of The Mindy Project, which has moved to Hulu this year. I’ve been enjoying Mindy’s interviews a lot lately – she’s been talking about confidence, her life in LA, her work in Hollywood and she just seems very relatable and “Real.” Mindy talked about that realness in an interview with The Guardian a few days ago – go here to read the full piece, which I would recommend if you enjoy her already. She tells an uncomfortable story about being invited to announce the Emmy nominations only to learn that she wasn’t nominated, and binge-eating McDonalds after the announcements. It’s very “real” and relatable. Here’s more:

Writing about her embarrassing moments: “You can choose not to write about your embarrassments and things that make you feel vulnerable but it’s not like people can’t see them anyway. Most people think that everyone’s life is so easy in Hollywood. And, for the most part, life is pretty great. So those moments when you are embarrassed, or you feel slighted, or an idiot, or miserable – I think they’re good to write about. I mean, really, I cringe when I’m reading it. But it’s really funny. Everything just gets better! That’s been my experience.”

Trying to sell The Mindy Project pilot: When NBC passed on the pilot, “I sat in my trailer and wept.” Finally, however, Fox said yes. “It’s very nice to have a show at a time when a woman who is not traditionally beautiful having her own comedy show and being openly pro-choice is commonplace. Right now, all my favourite shows star women who, if not producing it, created it themselves. I’m glad I’m coming up at this same time.”

Being constantly invited to sit on Hollywood panels: “When I get invited, I’m often the only woman and I’m often the only person of colour at this event. So if I can’t make it because of my work, I get an enormous amount of pressure to come, because if I’m not there, a minority and a woman will not be represented. That pressure sometimes is a little unfair, because me being included makes other people seem like they’re open-minded and diverse.”

Her realness: “I don’t want to be real! When I think of things that are ‘real’, I think of income taxes and Putin’s invasion of Ukraine. Real is bad! I want fantasy!”

Body image: “You know what’s funny? If I call myself a cute, chubby girl, the natural kind woman’s response is, ‘You’re not chubby! You’re beautiful! And thin!’ And I always want to hug the person and say, ‘It’s OK, I identify as someone who is cute and chubby – that doesn’t mean I’m not worthy of love and attention and intimacy.’ And also, my priorities are not such that I’m mortally offended by someone thinking that. Insults about the way I look can’t be the thing that harms me and my heart the most. It has to harm me the least. If I have a daughter, I’m going to tell her that. Far too many women are much more hurt by being called fat or ugly than they are by being called not smart, or not a leader. If someone told me that I was stupid or that I wasn’t a leader, or that I wasn’t witty or quick or perceptive, I’d be devastated. If someone told me that I had a gross body, I’d say, ‘Well, it’s bringing me a lot of happiness.’ Like, I’m having a fine time of it. Having my priorities aligned like that has helped me have a happier life, I think.”

Her relationship with BJ Novak & whether they’re like ‘When Harry Met Sally’: “When people say that, it makes me feel so cool. Like, oh, people are thinking about me like I’m a character. We are so different and we fight a lot, but the gift he [Novak] has always given me is the utter and total belief that I am one of the greats. And it is an intoxicating feeling.”

What she learned from losing her mom: “The only good that came from the experience is that it really is as bad as it gets to have a parent who dies of cancer. It really doesn’t get worse than that. Like a lot of people, I care desperately what people think, but I’m also like, oh well, it can’t hurt me too deeply. It’s never going to be as bad as losing your mom. Right now, I’m still in the place where I feel so robbed of her that if I write about her it would just be a piece about grief and anguish instead of a real celebration of what she was like.”

[From The Guardian]

Mindy always makes me ache with sadness when she talks about losing her mom. It feels like she hasn’t completely processed it and she still feels waves of grief. I love what she says about BJ Novak too, because I worry that they hold each other back from forming real relationships with other people. It’s good to know that she’s getting something out of it, that he “has always given me is the utter and total belief that I am one of the greats.” That’s wonderful. And everything she says about body image and what would really devastate her… word.

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  1. Little Darling says:

    Thank you for such a well written piece about Mindy. She’s simply fantastic.

    I love, love, love what she said about her body, identifying it in a real way for herself and then saying, that doesn’t mean I’m not worthy of love and attention and intimacy.’ I want to plaster that all over the world for young women to see because that is such a gem of wisdom. That perception is so beautiful it almost makes me weepy. It’s not an easy thing to feel as a young woman.

    I don’t care if she wants to talk about these subjects time and time again. She does so in a witty, honest and articulate way. And her message is so important.

    Regarding Novak, I’m not sure how healthy it is for her emotions, but I also love and completely get what keeps her there. He believes in her. That kind of unwavering support is intoxicating and so needed when we are trying to elevate ourselves via career or life. It sounds like he’s always given her a healthy, no BS perspective of the esteem she already had.

    I love her

    • mimif says:

      I liked what she wrote about being invited to panels, that was interesting and very telling. I love her too, she’s a goddess and I do not use that term lightly.

      • Little Darling says:

        Exactly. She’s doing a fantastic job at being a smart voice for young women.

        (Hi MimiF!! I gotta say your posts are always a light. I’ve been on the site for *years* but only recently started posting. I know the regulars and I love you all!!)

      • mimif says:

        Aw you’re sweet, Little Darling! I lurked for years before I started posting so I feel ya. Welcome aboard! 🚂

    • Loulou says:

      I love her 100%. It’s rare when I am not annoyed by a celebrity. I think she is incredibly smart and perceptive.

  2. minx says:

    She’s adorable.
    Love her.

    • sienna says:

      She’s definitely my girl crush.

      On an acting note,I think for the movie version of The Girl on the Train, Mindy would be perfect as Rachel. I know they would never cast a WoC in the role but she is so endearing as a hot-mess on her show, I think she would be a great fit.

  3. GreenieWeenie says:

    This shouldn’t be a novelty, but she’s so refreshingly (for a public figure) bright.

  4. Tania says:

    I totally get what she says about losing her Mom. I lost my Dad recently and it’s made me immune from opinions of others. Oh co-workers don’t like me. Big deal, my Dad died, that pain hurts more. Not invited out to the movies with friends? Oh well, my Dad isn’t here anymore and I still have netflix.

    • byland says:

      Tania, I’m so sorry to hear that about your dad.

      My Mom had a breast cancer scare earlier this year. One of the longest months of my life, I swear. I can’t imagine if the news had not been as amazingly good as it was or if I had lost her. I’d be devastated.

      My deepest condolences to you. Here’s hoping that you will find your way towards healing, although I know the pain will never recede entirely. How could it? Hugs sent your way.

  5. Patricia says:

    For once I like Mindly, lol.

    I can relate to how women will say “noooo honey you are skinny!” when I describe myself as big. It’s annoying. I AM big, that’s how I describe myself. I’m 5’9″ and varying weights, usually on the heavy side. Saying I’m big is honest. I never said I’m not beautiful, fun, lovable, sexy etc.

    • Josefa says:

      That bothers me too – that instead of telling bigger girls their bodies are also beautiful, we tell them they are actually thin. I have a friend (A) who is reeeeeally insecure about her body, and another friend (B) got a lot sh*t for telling her shell never have the body of Alessandra Ambrosio, but she’d look banging if she started working out. It wasn’t a lie – A without being obese was very unfit and unhealthy. But everyone else was looking at her like she just called her fat and a lost case. It sucked.

      • Linn says:

        Did A actually ask for B’s opinion about her body? Cause if not then yes, B’s comment was really rude.

      • Josefa says:

        She did. But like most young women, she was asking questions without being ready to hear honest answers.

    • carol says:

      I absolutely agree with Mindy regarding her body image. Why does beauty equate with being loveable? What if you aren’t a typical “beauty”? Does that mean you can’t find or deserve love? Some women just flip out if you admit you aren’t a beauty more than being called unintelligent. It boggles my mind

      • jwoolman says:

        I was surprised to hear that she even thinks about not being a “conventional beauty”. She looks very good to me, she just isn’t one of the cookie-cutter women who all look alike after their trips to the plastic surgeon. I like distinctive faces, and they are becoming an endangered species in Hollywood.

        I also don’t actually automatically think “chubby” when looking at her. She looks within a normal healthy range to me.

  6. marie says:

    Of all the women in media she should be the one our girls look up to. I hope someday my kids look at all the kims, Rihannas, lenas, Taylor’s and nikki’s and say “I’d rather be a mindy.”

  7. drool says:

    Mindy looks exactly like my friend’s Meena auntie

  8. Josefa says:

    I absolutely adore what she says about body image. It’s really f*cked up actually, how no one has any problems with calling women stupid and worthless but “fat” is completely wrong and off limits. Not speaking in favor of body shaming, obvs. You get my point.

  9. Tiffany :) says:

    She makes me laugh, but I find her to be so very wise. I adore her.

  10. Franca says:

    I would also be devastated if someone called me stupid, but I’ve been called fat so many times it doesn’t hurt anymore. But feeling worty of love and intimacy? I don’t.know if I’ll ever feel that. Granted, I’m only 23, but when something is so deeply rooted in you it’s hard to shake it, even now when I lost most of the weight.
    Plus, for every Mindy there’s hundreds of people who will call fat women disgusting.

    • Pedro45 says:

      Franca, from my advanced age of 45, my advice to you is to learn to love yourself now. You are young and if you are a good person inside then you ARE beautiful and worthy of love. It sounds trite but it’s true. Don’t waste years thinking you are less than others. Good luck.

  11. Lucy says:

    She’s wonderful. A true role model.

  12. Landers says:

    It is actually worse when you lose your child, compared to your mom. You are supposed to outlive your mother, but not your child.

  13. ashley says:

    “That doesn’t mean I’m not worthy of love and attention and intimacy.” Best quote ever! I love that she appreciate novak’s support. Can’t wait for the mindy project on hulu,love her.

  14. E says:

    I don’t think you really get over losing a parent. They are so central to your life, always present in your life, that when they are gone they are always missing. I don’t think it’s about processing. My dad died and I’m fine, happy, productive, and progressing in the life I want. But there are still moments when something reminds me, or hits me with the loss again, and I just cry a little. But it’s ok, and I’m ok, it’s just part of my life without my dad who I will always miss, always want to share what’s going on with, and always wish was just still around.

  15. byland says:

    Mindy is one of my spirit animals. Love her so much. Her last book was great and very laugh out loud funny, so I’m very much looking forward to reading her second.

  16. Nessa says:

    She is a ray of sunshine, and a true role model. She is just lovely in every way.

  17. moomoo says:

    Love her. So happy to see other commenters say the same thing!