People: The Cambridges are no longer living full-time at Anmer Hall?

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry watch the opening game of the 2015 Rugby World Cup, England Vs Fiji at Twickenham stadium in London

There was some concern about Prince William’s middle-class work schedule following his recent flurry of activities. William is now a commercial helicopter co-pilot, and we were told at the start of his job that he would be working almost full-time (meaning, around 30 hours a week) at the East Anglia Air Ambulance service. We were told that he would basically be doing a four-days-on and four-days-off schedule. Just my opinion: that fell apart pretty quickly. It seems like William takes time off of his job whenever he feels like it and rearranges his schedule to suit his needs. Which is fine, only don’t tell us that you just want the life of a middle-class pilot and that you can’t do royal work because of your full-time job, you know?

Anyway, following this weekend’s very pointed criticism about William’s laziness even when his father specifically requested William step up and do more work, William really has been putting in an “effort” by doing a series of high profile events. I still believe this is just the flurry of activity before a lengthy vacation, but maybe it’s something more. People Magazine now claims that the Cambridges are going to split their time between Kensington Palace and Anmer Hall. Huh. After they made such a big deal about moving to Anmer full time? Weird, right?

Prince William and Princess Kate are getting used to life on the road – the road between Norfolk and London, that is. As they juggle royal duties and home life and, for William, his job as an air ambulance helicopter pilot, they are bouncing between their two homes – Kensington Palace in London and Anmer Hall, about 150 miles to the north. But the busy royals aren’t without help. They now have a housekeeper for each home and, of course, nanny Maria Turrion Borrallo to help with children Prince George and Princess Charlotte.

“They are very much between the two,” a royal source tells PEOPLE in its current issue. “They spent a large part of the summer up at Anmer, but now there is many engagements traveling to and from London. They’ll be very much spending time in London as well.”

It’s a lifestyle that’s shared by most members of the royal family. Prince Charles, 66, splits his time between his London base at Clarence House and his country home in Tetbury, Gloucestershire. And Queen Elizabeth is used to traveling to and from Windsor Castle and Sandringham Estate in Norfolk.

[From People Magazine]

People Mag then tries to put a happy face on the Cambridges’ meager public schedule, and preview their coming “events.” Like, Will and Kate will be attending the England versus Wales rugby match on Sunday with Harry (going to a rugby match = work), plus they’ll attend the State Dinner for the Chinese president. And there’s still the little matter of a “foreign trip,” likely to some lovely beach in the Caribbean, without the kids. WORK!

Oh, and People Magazine also had an article a few days ago about how Prince Charlotte won’t be wearing dresses until she’s about 1 year old. I didn’t realize that was a thing, but apparently royal princesses wear onesies for the first year, then they get to wear dresses as soon as they can walk.

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  1. Lilacflowers says:

    They got an airstream trailer and will just be driving around the country.

    • frisbee says:

      Which they need for their ‘whirlwind lifestyle’ (# poorJason) and to ‘juggle (the mythical) Royal duties’ (#kneepads). They stuff the staff and #poorjason in a horsebox trailer and drag them all around the country with them. It’s the only way the poor darlings can cope with it all. Tsk, tsk, I’m shocked, shocked to the core I tell you that you didn’t know that.
      This may be somewhat sarcastic.
      With these two I can’t seem to help myself.

    • Christin says:

      They are vagabonds at heart, right?

      • evermore says:

        I can barely read PEOPLE , they have their heads so far up the Cambridge’s rears.

        And the insistance with the P……Kate thing is so odd, I just can’t continue through their articles.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        @ Evermore, what do you mean by the “P” thing with Kate? I’m quite sure that I probably agree with you, whatever it is, as I cannot stand People’s coverage either, just curious 🙂

      • notasugarhere says:

        They continually use an inaccurate title, because they’re trying to turn this sow’s ear into a silk purse (or cash cow).

      • evermore says:

        sorry Charlotte….it irritates me so much I couldn’t write it out. lol 🙂

        Thank you , notasugarhere.

      • FuefinaWG says:

        @evermore: they insist on calling her Princess Kate when she’s not a princess, at all.

      • bluhare says:

        She actually is a princess. She just can’t use the title Princess Catherine because she’s not a princess in her own right. She would be the Princess William if she were referred to as a princess, but my understanding is Duchess of Cambridge ranks higher than The Princess William would. And William said she’s princess of the UK as her occupation on George’s birth certificate.

        Someone who knows more than me should elaborate because I’m not perfect on this stuff.

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        Pretty much I think.
        Kate is Princess William if a Princess. Duchess of C outranks Princess William because it’s her title.
        Did William write(have written?) Kate was DOC Catherine Princess of the realm? Or was it Princess Catherine which would be just wrong

      • evermore says:

        My problem w PeopleMag. is they never bothered to worry that Sarah Ferguson was a Princess when she married Pr.Andrew(and I mean when Sarah was in her honeymoon phase with the press,, also Sophie is a Princess, but PEOPLE understood to call her by her title Countess after the wedding when they did a cover and a few articles on her) . …but for some reason the precious lazy Kate they continue to call Princess Kate in their pages and it’s not like the readers DON’T Know she’s the Duchess of Cambridge.
        The other thing is NO ONE in the British Press calls Kate Princess…Imo, it just looks SILLY that PEOPLE does it… and here’s the thing , Kate doesn’t really even sell big, except the issue about PGeorge birth sold well, but Kate alone, no.

        Kate can’t be Princess Catherine, just as Sophie
        can’t be Princess Sophie….Sophie would be HRH The Princess Edward. Kate would be HRH The Princess WIlliam. Neither lady was born a Princess.

      • Citresse says:

        I think the media called Diana, Princess Diana was because some would argue she was more of a blue blood than Charles. Plus she had such a regal presence. Diana had such a different background than Fergie and Sophie though Diana wasn’t a princess in her own right.

      • FLORC says:

        evermore
        It’s a Hallmark of posters who claim up and down Kate is Princess Kate that they get their news from People Mag.

        Citresse
        Diana was Lady Diana, but wasn’t she also Princess of Wales? Was she princess charles?

      • Bridget says:

        The difference is, Princess of Wales is an actual title, vs. being a Princess of the blood (and technically William is only a blood prince right now, which is why his Duke of Cambridge title is considered the greater title and why it’s the one that’s officially in use). So Diana was indeed Princess Diana by virtue of the fact that she was Princess of Wales. Camilla is Princess of Wales herself but doesn’t use the title.

      • FLORC says:

        Bridget
        Thank You

      • notasugarhere says:

        wrong spot

      • Citresse says:

        Yes it seems People mag online is referring to Kate as Princess Kate per their article released this morning.

      • Anne says:

        Calling her “Princess Kate” is strange, though, right? I wonder WHY they do it? I expect they think “Princess” will be more appealing to their readers, helping them sell more copies. . . . Whatever their reason, it’s sloppy and it reflects badly on them (and their readers).

    • Bridget says:

      They’re very keen to get started, as soon as Kate gets the airstream decorated

      • Citresse says:

        FLORC
        I think once Lady Diana married Charles she was HRH Diana, Princess of Wales. I think the media also used the term Princess Diana because it was shorter (easier) than having to say Diana, Princess of Wales.
        The only thing that changed after the divorce was the loss of HRH isn’t that right? Are there conflicting reports of whether Diana was truly upset or not re- the loss of the HRH status?
        With Kate Middleton, I think in terms of the media, they won’t stop calling her that until William becomes POW. At that point I’ll be interesting to see if they use Catherine, Princess of Wales, Princess Catherine (even though she’s not a princess in her own right), Princess Kate or Kate, Princess of Wales?

      • Citresse says:

        No, I don’t think Diana was ever officially Princess Diana. She was not born a princess such as Princess Anne.
        In addition to the popularity of Diana, it probably irked Charles even more re- the fact the media often referred to Diana as Princess Diana.

      • Bridget says:

        She was Diana, Princess of Wales. She was married to the Prince of Wales. The title is what makes the difference – why Diana was Princess of Wales when Fergie was Duchess of York.

      • Feeshalori says:

        Diana herself use to correct reporters when they called her Princess Diana. Her official title was HRH Princess of Wales, and after the divorce Diana, Princess of Wales.

      • LAK says:

        Bridget that’s not how titles work even if we are talking about the POW, DOY titles. Only somebody of the blood (whatever the rank of their title) can use their christian name in their title.

        In short;

        Wife of title = ‘The’ definitive(female version) of title eg The Princess of Wales, The Duchess of York, The Countess of Wessex, The Duchess of Cambridge, Countess Spencer

        Divorced Wife of title = *restored first name + coma + title without definitive eg Diana, Princess of Wales, Sarah, Duchess of York.

        *when media (or public) refer to Kate, Duchess of Cambridge or Sophie, Countess of Wessex, they are essentially calling them divorced women. You see this mistake everywhere every single time someone writes about these 2 women.

        Widow of title = Dowager + (female version) title eg Dowager Duchess of Marlborough

        Daughter of title = title + first name eg Princess Anne, Lady Diana Spencer, Princess Beatrice of York, Princess Charlotte of Cambridge, Lady Louise of Wessex

        The only title Diana held in her own right was Lady Diana Spencer, being the daughter of an Earl. As a married and then divorced woman, the best she could hold were the courtesy titles as written above.

        Princess Diana was a media/public fiction that has took hold out of affection for her, but with no base in reality. I guess everyone loved her so much they wanted her to be a real princess. Just as people magazine are trying to do for Kate.

      • FLORC says:

        lol and Thank You LAK 😀

      • Charlotte15 says:

        @ BRIDGET This made me laugh SO HARD. 😂 My eyes can’t roll back any farther into my head than they already do every time we hear what Kate is “keen” to do next. They need to find a new line to use on us.

        And @EVERMORE (and everyone else), thank you for clarifying what you meant – now it seems obvious to me that P = Princess but I hadn’t had my coffee yet when I first read it this morning and was drawing a blank. I truly can’t even read People anymore it has become such a joke.

      • evermore says:

        Great explanations.
        I also think since Diana became HRH The “PRINCESS” O W on her wedding day, with no other title intended,…..the world press called her Princess….since Charles was the Prince of Wales.
        The Queen bestowed a Dukedom on William on his wedding day(Just as she did with Pr.Andrew) so People mag knows full well what Kate should be called. IMO PEOPLE Mag. disrespects the Queen’s lovely gift to the Cambridge’s by not honoring the lovely title. HRH The Duchess of Cambridge is an amazing title.

      • notasugarhere says:

        In addition to Princess of Wales she also became Duchess of Cornwall, Duchess of Rothesay and Countess of Chester upon their marriage.

  2. Betti says:

    So they have a royal camper van then.

    BTW – James has split from his gf Donna Air. Apparently she wasn’t good enough for Queen Carole. That family is only big enough for one ambitious social climber. Shame – i liked them as a couple.

    • FLORC says:

      They seemed ok for each other. I wonder if Boomf! being another failed business he gave up on while it could still be saved was a factor?

      • Betti says:

        Maybe – not following through on things seems to be a Middleton sibling trait. But from what the Fail says it was him who ended it – snarking that Carole was behind it as she didn’t think she was good enough to be the SIL of the future Queen.

        She always seemed more into him that he was her -but then again she does like her men wealthy and/or connected. She dated Damian Aspinall for several years.

      • WinnieCoopersMom says:

        LOL @ Boomf! Literally has to be the most embarrassing business venture we’ve ever heard of in modern times. I think anyone would be more impressed if he started anything else. Grocery store, a pub, a men’s retail boutique..anything would be less laughable than Boomf!

      • FLORC says:

        Winnie
        A coworker of mine just started a business. It’s sort of a pub, smoking room, and a barber shop in 1. You pay a membership fee and get this delux experience with straightrazor style shaving, sports package tv, and cigars with topshelf liquor.
        If James started that given his beard i’d be impressed. So far the business has taken off well too in an area where there’s a market.

        Boomf was a concept i’ve been doing for years and i’ll print any picture. Not just those from instagram and on anything that takes the ricepaper with the edible image. That business was doomed from the start and once James was done promoting it appeared he checked out.

      • WinnieCoopersMom says:

        @FLORC that is fascinating! A membership for a man’s version of heaven. I’m trying to conceptualize the female eqivalent: Sephora + Spa + Martinis/Wine + You pick your own chick flick to watch while receiving said spa services. Sighhh…

      • FLORC says:

        I’d do that Winnie! I’d have to find the time, but i’d do that if I had the time!

        And I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but that sounds like a ultra luxurious “menstruation tent”

      • Imo says:

        FLORC it sounded wonderful until you mentioned the sports television part of the deal. Yuck. Even gentlemen have lost the art of conversation it seems. Wonderful cigar, a sandalwood shave, a glass of decent cognac and ….the Denver Broncos?? Lol but the guys didn’t ask for *my* version of heaven.

      • FLORC says:

        Imo
        My thoughts too.

    • evermore says:

      The press is hinting Mum Carole former Air Hostess didn’t think Donna good enough, to be Sister in Law to the future Queen.

    • Suze says:

      So Carole is negotiating marriage contracts with suitable consorts? How very Victorian of her.

      I kind of doubt Carole is behind the split. Probably James is exploring his true self.

      • Deedee says:

        I second that comment, Suze.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        I sincerely hope that Carole had nothing to do with this. James is a grown man and Mommy should not have anything to do with making decisions re: his love life. I wouldn’t put anything past Carole, but shame on James if he left someone he cared about b/c his mom didn’t think she was “good enough.” Give me a break.

      • Ib says:

        I’ve always heard that James is gay. And that fits and explains a lot doesn’t it?

      • taxi says:

        There are lots of internet pics of James & male friends cavorting at stag parties in apparel not normally seen on straight men – thong/speedos, collars & bow ties with hats but minus shirts & trousers. No women present, men lounging semi-prone on sofas, etc. I thought the supposed g.f. was bearding for pay..

      • FLORC says:

        Stag parties with men in speedos is not out of the norm. They just don’t care and get silly. Silly outfits are part of it for some. I don’t think he’s gay based on internet rumors and evidence hand picked to support that theory. Now, if he’s caught kissing a guy past a peck… We got something. Until then there’s nothing.
        And even then… What does it matter?

      • evermore says:

        I wonder why James just didn’t just keep working for his parents ,with Party Pieces for years and build his business acumen, for awhile before venturing out on his own? He’s only 28 , he should just go work for his parents for five or ten years and just build up his knowledge of operating the business.

        I think he saw himself as a young maverick in business, but his ideas were just not that great, imo.
        My sister and I have been doing cakes with photos and cupcakes with photos since the mid 1990’s for her kids parties. It’s such a common thing in the US and any US Supermarket or Bakery can do these picture cakes very cheaply for customers.
        I still don’t understand why James thinks pictures on cake or marshmellows was such a big deal. Also he needs to take business classes for marketing, because he picks the worst names for his companies. JMO

        Boomf? not sure how it’s spelled (BUT it’s not a good sign when people have to Wonder how to spell a company name…. but maybe he thought it would take off like Google? LOL 🙂
        I think his company names are NOT great for selling food products I thought it was soap at first.

  3. Talie says:

    I’d take living in London any day, especially if I had a 15-room mansion to swan around in. Although, Kensingotn Palace is probably a bore with all the protocol.

    • Suze says:

      Is there protocol at KP? I thought it was just a royal, upscale apartment block with each royal family living as they pleased within their own walls.

      I thought it Buck House that had all the royal protocol and was difficult to navigate.

      I could be way off base, though. I am hardly an expert.

      • LAK says:

        Suze: absolutely. No protocol at KP unless one wonders into the public/state rooms. BP is Downton Abbey level protocol.

        Talie: 15 rooms is a fraction of their mansions, unless you are talking about their scottish home. IIRC, that’s got only 3BRMs and looks like a modest house.

    • Charlotte15 says:

      TALIE I absolutely adore the expression “swan around” and rarely see it used and it made me smile to read it in this context so thank you! (Very apropos for W&K since that really is actually all they do.)

  4. Murphy says:

    Please don’t less Kate humiliate us by sending her to that state dinner.

  5. evermore says:

    This story sounds like a story to head off another story to come out later somewhere, IMO.
    I’m not buying that William is running back and forth to Anmer and London all week. He has helicopter duties.

    And…Some fan will eventually catch a cellphone photo of her in the car with the RPO motorcade heading to her mums for the weekend.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It is coming from People, who generally has no clue when it comes to royals. They aren’t moving from Anmer to London. I think it is just another PR move, to dampen criticism about the millions wasted on an empty London palace.

      • LAK says:

        As we all know, people works directly with the staff of it’s subject stories. It regurgitate whatever it is told to regurgitate even if the articles are polished and finished in people style.

      • Imo says:

        The money to renovate KP would have been better used to refurbish or update other royal properties but it wasn’t wasted, necessarily. KP belongs to the taxpayers and needed updating. Unfortunately, not enough public access is given to these properties so they can help pay for themselves.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        I can’t with “People” anymore, it has gotten so ridiculous. I realize it was always the most celeb-friendly publication, but somehow over the past year or two it has become positively insufferable. Their constant Duggar stories are beyond embarrassing.

        And did Jason just full-on write this article himself and send it off to People to be printed? Because that’s what it seems like. It has really become a joke and an embarrassment at this point IMO.

      • notasugarhere says:

        We have been through this MANY times before. It had running water and was just fine, it wasn’t abandoned and crumbling apart. The public was able to access that space before when it was owned by the charity. It was W&K demanding the charity’s space that caused it to be removed from public consumption. They had the choice of other available spaces but they demanded the largest space that was already occupied.

        The work that W&K had done internally to that section of KP was not necessary. The asbestos abatement was NOT required UNTIL they tore into the walls and exposed the asbestos. If they had left the walls intact, the asbestos did not have to be dealt with. You only have to “deal” with asbestos if you tear into it. Otherwise, you can leave it as is. By choosing to rip apart the interior of an historic structure instead of leaving the original footprint, they CAUSED millions in additional work to be required.

      • LAK says:

        IMO/Nota: Cote de texas website’s section on KP shows you the state of apt 1A during the charity’s occupation. The charity renovated it before *they* took possession. And they held an exhibition in the rooms during their occupation. There was no need for as extensive a remodel as WK’s costs suggest.

        The narrative that 1A was a run down section of the palace that absolutely had to be torn down is made up to justify the expense of the renovation. This lie has been repeated so often that the public believes it to be true.

        BTW, all the figures quoted for the renovation only cover what WK spent for their actual renovation. They don’t include the sum HM had to pay to buy out the charity’s lease + the reimbursed cost of the charity’s renovations. That figure would have been hidden in the previous year’s budget as part of her palace upkeep.

        She took money that should have gone to BP’s renovation, which everyone agrees has been visibly crumbling for years, and handed it to WK’s KP grab.

      • Imo says:

        nota
        “We have been through this many times before”

        Is that the royal “we” or the royal gossip cool kids “we”?

      • Imo says:

        LAK
        I very much like what William and Kate lined up for the renovation. I don’t know/care about the decor but I thought the itemized updates were nice.of course the money should have been spent elsewhere and I stated that but KP is only the better for the work that was done.

      • FLORC says:

        Imo
        We meaning the commenters here. It’s 1 of those topics that gets covered again and again because someone who hasn’t heard thinks otherwise.
        And this isn’t a topic where info got buried. If you look it’s easily found.

      • Imo says:

        FLORC
        Oh yes, I quite understood. I just don’t agree that the reno was a waste of money. I think it was a con job ran by William and Kate and the money should have gone elsewhere. But I like what they did to the place and in the long run the taxpayers will have a modernized, well appointed palace to use as an income generator when the monarchy ends!
        Besides when Elizabeth and Philip married the King insisted on an elaborate reno job on KP that angered a lot of the commoners (still reeling from the war) and ran way over budget. But anything for darling Lilibet, who always hated BP and was the apple of her father’s eye – peasants be damned. Things never really change for these people, imo.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I meant “we” as in I think LAK, I, and you have had this discussion on here before. How do you know that you like what they’ve done with the place without seeing it? No photos of the interior post-renovations have been released iirc.

        Elizabeth and Philip didn’t live in Kensington Palace. They lived in a home at Windsor after they were first married and then moved to Clarence House.

      • FLORC says:

        Imo
        Agree it wasn’t a “waste” because it was going to happen eventually. That it happened then though…. While BP is in such awful shape that the disabled are getting funding to benefits cut to find the funds for it… Was KP renovations really that needed?
        IMO it’s not justified for what they had done. Agree with Nota and LAK on this. The full expense is hidden and the renovations cost so much because they made it to their specs and not simply to make it habitable.
        And because someone else got away with it doesn’t mean any more should. Toss in the funfact that the BP reno funds were always used, but bp is in terrible shape… Some have stated that’s where some of the private funds used to renovate KP came from. Public funds earmarked for a specific purpose that became private and used as private. Ugh.

        Nota
        I know I like some of the interior because they’ve stated outright what brands and models they purchased for things like the kitchen.

      • anne_000 says:

        @ notasugarhere

        I just want to thank you for all your information. I love reading your posts in different articles. I always find them very interesting and a must-read. Thank you 🙂

      • notasugarhere says:

        I remember reading about paint, around the time of the “it came out purple so she repainted it” rumors but did they tell us what kind of stoves, etc.? For instance, they ripped out the Anmer Kitchen, but were we told what they replaced it with? There was such a flurry of stuff that came out in the midst of the Kate of the Many Kitchens, I don’t remember what was rumored and what was stated by KP as fact.

      • Imo says:

        Nota
        Clarence, not KP. Point remains the same. Royals will do as they like and their subjects will pay for it.
        FLORC
        Yes i agree but as I’ve said, they do as they please, especially the Cambridges. I take a realists’ view: some good did come out of a master con job perpetrated by the Cambridges. Lack of tedious, repetitive outrage doesn’t mean I approve.anyone can clearly see what is going on, imo. Will and Kate are being allowed and enabled to grab as much good stuff as their little hands can hold – without even pretending to earn it. I’m just glad I don’t pay for them.

      • bluhare says:

        I don’t think anything was ever said about Anmer because that was “private money”, whatever “private money” means.

        I do think there was discussion about KP and what was involved there which is where the Two or Three Kitchens Kate came from. And given the fact that they’ve hardly lived there I do think it was a waste of money. Money that could have been better spent elsewhere given all we’ve heard about the state of Buckingham Palace. But we’ve never seen what it looks like. Their official photo with George had the interior blacked out, and the only thing we’ve seen is background during the two or three video spots they’ve done.

      • FLORC says:

        Nota
        For the “Family Kitchen” in KP the type of appliance were named. The stove was top of the line and VERY expensive. Cna’t remember the name, but it makes me think of wolf something? W something…?

        Imo
        Maybe i’m reading your comment as more of a passive opinion and in that passive nature some level of approval. It’s simple how i’m understanding your tone. And Tone in text… I know. It’s tough.
        And the States do pay for them. Their “work visits tour”… We pay. Drop in the bucket to our goverment, but we still pay.

        Bluhare
        Lol those Kitchens! And the whole time they were selling this desire to rush the renovations they were kicking out the leasers from AH with full intention of not living in KP.

      • LAK says:

        There were many misleading articles that Anmer would be paid by private funds vs KP using mostly tax payer funds because KP was going to be their official residence.

        In the fullness of time, it was revealed that £1.5M of taxpayer money was used on Anmer.

        Florc: Wolf subzero brand

      • FLORC says:

        My memory palace is on the “fritz”. Thank you again LAK.

  6. frisbee says:

    So now Normal Bill is bored of being a part time helicopter pilot this is his excuse to bail? The distance between Anmer and London is too far for him to fulfill his non-existent, mythical Royal Duties so obviously Anmer has to go and oopsiedaisy, so does the job that was basically invented for him? He started it in July, even for him losing interest this fast would be a record but I wouldn’t be remotely surprised if this is what’s behind this latest pile of crap spewing forth via #poorjason.
    And I’m not even getting into that bloody tennis court.

    • FLORC says:

      I thought the distance of commuting was almost equal from KP and AH, no? I remember the discussion he wouldn’t have to relocate to AH when he took the job because it made minimal travel difference.

      I’m off the #poorjason wagon. He’s struggling and doing his best, but he knew the line of work he went into. Crisis management is his specialty.

      • Betti says:

        There is crisis management and train wreck management – i don’t think he knew he was getting into the latter with these 2.

      • Christin says:

        I just looked up Jason, and I don’t sympathize with him, either. My guess was that he was a young PR guy with limited experience, but only the first half of that is accurate. He was touted at a crisis handler, so I think he’s just fluffing up his resume with another high profile gig.

        My guess is he will exit the stage once he gets a year or two completed with this sideshow.

      • notasugarhere says:

        The commuting time to the airport he was going to be stationed at was roughly equal, whether he drove from London or Sandringham.

      • frisbee says:

        Oh FLORC, stop being so reasonable! 😀
        I think with these two we can release ourselves from the bounds of your sense of reality, logic and common sense. We can subsume all of these sterling qualities to William having the emotional development of a three year old who has to get his own way ALL THE TIME – otherwise he’ll pout.
        Actually I just looked it up and you’re right, the difference in distance is about 13 to 14 minutes by car between Anmer, KP and EAAA. That said, I don’t think that small fact would get in the way if Normal Bill wanted to bail. Even if he were picked up on it I suspect he’s arrogant enough to carry on regardless.
        That said, I’m beginning to like your idea about ‘separate lives’, there’s def something going on. They can’t honestly believe anyone will swallow the nonsense about ‘Royal Duties’ can they?

      • FLORC says:

        Frisbee
        Lol!

        The seperate lives has been supported since the marriage. Dismissing Kate at the tail end of their honeymoon tour to vacation alone.
        Kate showing up to the Cottage they shared with George and all her bags only to leave within an hour. The exiting a helicopter caught by passerbys and see them get into seperate cars. 1 to the Midds. And the numerous sightings of William elsewhere while the Midds town has emergency services scrambbled in a way that can only mean Kate is there. If social media didn’t exist we wouldn’t have this.

        I don’t care if they live seperate. Just the pr angle is nonsense. Why lie when fact checking is so simple now?

      • Citresse says:

        FLORC
        You mean Kate and William are living separate lives comparable to Charles and Diana once Harry was born?

      • frisbee says:

        @ FLORC – the spinning is irritating, it’s as if these people haven’t yet grasped that people do remember what they read. I’m sure they can ‘clean’ the internet of unfavourable reports, but they can’t wipe minds – yet

      • Charlotte15 says:

        @ FLORC I couldn’t agree more. At first I thought the #poorjason hashtag was hilarious and I was fully on board. By now, though, he has got to know that he is completely full of shit. I get that this is obviously a prestigious gig for his resume, but W&K are a sinking ship IMO and it would be best for him to cut ties now and run before it gets any worse.

        I do feel sorry for him in the sense that this job is most definitely NOT what he expected when he signed on. Such is life!

        ETA: FLORC, I just scrolled down further and saw this:
        “Dismissing Kate at the tail end of their honeymoon tour to vacation alone. Kate showing up to the Cottage they shared with George and all her bags only to leave within an hour. The exiting a helicopter caught by passerbys and see them get into seperate cars.”

        and I am SO intrigued because I’ve always sort of “followed” Kate but don’t remember ANY of this (I think it was before I discovered Celebitchy and was still drinking the Cambridge Kool-Aid!). Do you have any links for these stories? I absolutely believe you that they are true, I just want to read more for myself. I’m finding it completely fascinating since this is the first I’m hearing of it and now that we have the benefit of hindsight and have seen how things have played out since, it isn’t the least bit surprising.

        @ FRISBEE, agreed. They must think we are all just a bunch of dithering morons who can’t see what’s right in front of us or remember what we read six weeks ago. Maybe there is still a small subsection of fans (soccer mom, People magazine-reading-Kate super-fans) who gobble up this crap, but I find it incredibly insulting that we are expected to lap this stuff up without questioning the quick 180’s that these two do. It is so condescending to those of us who actually pay attention AND possess some critical-thinking skills! 😉

      • FLORC says:

        Citresse
        I’m not sure what you mean. Do you mean once the spare is out fidelity on both sides is not an issue?

        I mean Kate is more than often in the marriage so far spotted at her parents or the emergency services that would only assemble with her presence did so for days or weeks while William would be spotted vacationing or elsewhere. Anywhere really but with Kate or royal duties. Which is unfortunate with Children in the mix.
        For a while I held firm that if a camera didn’t catch them together you couldn’t know if they were even under the same roof.

      • FLORC says:

        Charlotte
        Some links you can search out and find via google. You read a blurb and click the link to find it’s dead. Most negative to the Cambridge pr image stories are gone. This is partly why you need to follow as it goes. History gets rewritten. No secret at the end of the tour William and Kate werre in the Falklands(sp?) and Kate left early while William stayed.

        The cottage stay was better covered with paps tagging along. Maybe it was Tanna? Not sure. It was during the time Kate lived at her parents post George birth. She was seen with Carole and suitcases going to the cottage. Then packing up alll the suitcases and leaving shortly. The reason given was the cottage had rats. This cottage with was more of a very large home was renovated all over for them. The rats must have chewed through the bomb proof lining on the doors windows and walls. Crafty rats….

        The helipcopter seperate cars was noted by random people. And another instance was WK seen entering a helicopter. The guy took photos but didn’t realise what he caught until scrolling through later. During that time WK were not said to be going anywhere and as a result they had to issue a statement they do accept gifts from friends. Something previously thought not apporved of. Could be seen as a bribe if royals accepted gifts. They are allowed heavy discounts, but not gifts directly outside of family.

      • Citresse says:

        FLORC
        I questioned your comment re- marriage of Kate and William is essentially over? I think the answer to that is no. I thought they have good body language with each other, noted recently at the rugby match. I think they’re friends who married.

      • FLORC says:

        Citresse
        I didn’t say their marriage was over. More that they are a couple that does well to live apart if anything. Can you give me the quote in context where i said that so I know what you’re speaking of?

        WK always appear more relaxed at sporting events. This seems to be a constant.
        I think William married a friend he can trust. I think Kate married what she considers more than a friend.

      • Citresse says:

        FLORC
        I misinterpreted your comment of separation to mean the marriage was over. I guess they do spend time apart esp when Kate was quoted as saying such re- George’s first year.
        The fact that prior to the engagement they’d broken up and reconciled a few times is a concern, but maybe Kate and William have found a way to make things work for them?

      • Betti says:

        The marriage is just a continuation of the dating years – they, as in he, have separate lives where he only spends time with her and the kids when he feels like it or wants his leg over. She still runs when he calls but this times she has children in tow. This dynamic will never change and is why he married her – she lets him do whatever he likes.

      • FLORC says:

        Citresse
        Lol no problem! I read things wrong a lot.

        And maybe their reunited meant they worked out the kinks. I tend to think from the pieces given William put the ring on the table for certain if Kate just dealt with him.

        Betti
        Kate leaves the kids behind. They are not in tow. Maldives for example. She left George as an infant for a last minute vacation.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        Thank you FLORC! It is a full-time job keeping up with these two and all their maneuvers. I know others here have said this before, but wouldn’t it be easier at this point for them to just DO SOME WORK once or twice a week instead of having to be so evasive all the time? It must be exhausting.

        I am also curious as to how they are able to “scrub” the Internet of unfavorable articles. I don’t doubt that it’s been done, but it surprises me that *anyone* has that capability anymore, no matter who you are and how high your connections might be (e.g. Hillary); as I tell my kids all the time, once you put something online, it is there FOREVER!

    • Pipa says:

      Normal Bill is caught/called out, and no longer private (time at his ‘regular job just like us’) , has to find something else to get out of royal duties.

      AH to London is for trips to buckleberry (ma carol evicted from AH).

  7. FLORC says:

    Doesn’t Almost Full-Time mean he’s just Part-Time?

    I wonder what the angle is here. That they aren’t letting their KP residence go to waste? To claim they only have 1 staff member that will go with them?
    To remind everyone they’re working again? Ot to not draw attention when we start to see Kate in 1 location and William in another? KP is closer to the Midds. Or to bury the lead of William doing less co-piloting? I’m only speculating because no news comes out unless it’s needed as a diversion. If we see any pics of George you know something shady happened.

    • evermore says:

      Richard Palmer made a crack a few days ago about how much refurb, etc. of Kensington Palace was cost.

      • Citresse says:

        If the photos of their KP apt are real, then imo how gaudy! I don’t know if it was Kate or William or both, but they seem to want to live in a 1970s NYC disco nightclub.

      • LAK says:

        Cistresse: where did you see pics of their KP apartment? Meaning, the only glimpses we’ve had, during PSAs, show lots of beige and not much else

      • FLORC says:

        Didn’t they have a section of KP just for PSAs and videos/interviews? A business side or sorts? And the rest private. We can guess what it looks like from KAte’s shopping. Somewhere in there there’s a velvet throw pillow saying “love”.

      • Citresse says:

        LAK
        You Tube.
        It claimed to be the interior of Will and Kate’s KP apt. A couple shots show purple- they seem to favour purple- purple chairs, purple throws, purple curtains etc and really unusual light fixtures.
        However some of the rooms look ok. I thought the nursery and dining room are nice.
        The youtube video title is: Wiliam and Kate; inside their apt 1 Kensington Palace, behind the scenes tour.

      • frisbee says:

        LAK – this is claimed to be apartment 1A
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWX_H2gVhH0
        no idea if it’s correct or not.

      • LAK says:

        Citresse/Frisbee: that is not their flat at KP. That video has spliced together interior design photos from various designers and shopping brands associated with them together with KP public rooms and inexplicably a really old picture of Margaret in the sitting room of the apt from the 80s/90s.

        I enjoy looking at interior design catalogues/websites, so I recognise quite a few of the photos that have been used in the video eg I see one photo taken from Annabel Eliot’s interior design page (she’s Camilla’s sister), a couple of photos I recognise from the Ralph Lauren home decor catalogue. Even a photo taken from a nursery designer who was highlighted in a DM article on posh nursery designers.

        Full disclosure: I have a photographic memory (though sadly no mathematic logic) so I’m able to recall them easily.

        If you want to have a sense of their flat right upto the point they acquired it ie when the charity still occupied it, go to Cote de Texas website and look up their section on royal palaces. You’ll find a lot of detail on KP, BP, Balmoral, and CH. It also has a post on the nudegate house in France if you want to look at the interior of that house.

        The only glimpses of how they’ve decorated are in William’s PSAs which are recorded in an upper room. All minimalist magnolia with 2 portraits of previous holders of the DOC titles.

      • Citresse says:

        LAK
        Thanks for the info on Cote de Texas. In particular, it was very interesting seeing the interiors of Clarence House.
        And the gardens at Highgrove are beautiful.

      • FuefinaWG says:

        I can’t imagine that bedroom being W&K’s because the bed looks to be, what we call in America, full size. A tall man, or even a man at 5’9″ would have difficulty sleeping in that bed next to a partner. A Queen size bed, for 2, would probably still be too small.
        That said, I like the way it’s decorated; it’s kind of cool …

      • FLORC says:

        WK’s bed is said to be a type of extra huge King with custom mattress for comfort… and goose feathers?

      • aurelia says:

        LOLZ, the start of that you tube video is taken from the London Ralph Lauren store. I’m not kidding. Purple is his signature colour.

      • bluhare says:

        Don’t forget the pea, FLORC. 🙂

      • FLORC says:

        Hahahaha!

    • frisbee says:

      I’ll bet you pictures of George and raise you one of Charlotte by the end of the month!

    • Betti says:

      I suspect to pre-empt any stories coming out about redecoration/refurb at KP by our favourite spend thrift Duchess.

    • LAK says:

      Full time means full time ergo 4days on/4days off like all his colleagues.

      Almost full time means part time ergo 2/3 of 4days on/4days off per the media articles and confirmation from KP when he started his job in the summer.

      • FLORC says:

        I’m going to start giving myself a bump in job title with “almost” infront of it.
        I’m an “almost” professional landscaper since I garden… And i’ll tell my boss I should get overtime because my hours are “almost” there.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        Love it. If this is the way it works, then I’m “almost” Mother of the Year. FFS these two are so odious.

      • MinnFinn says:

        And when EAAA suggests Willy go from almost full-time to actual full-time his answer will be “I’d rather not”.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        @MINNFINN I’d forgotten about “I’d rather not!” I cannot wait to start finding ways to work that into my conversations on a daily basis, particularly regarding housework of any kind 😉

    • Suze says:

      It’s a triple threat. Not letting the KP apartment sit empty, Normal Bill is indeed working hard!, and what do you know, they only have a minimal staff (but of course, at one time, they made do with NONE, remember?).

      • CynicalCeleste says:

        And apparently a new housekeeper at AH (presumably not Carole after all)…still wish we knew the story on why the previous housekeeper/gardener couple quit.

    • elisabeth says:

      I’ll tell you what. The only way they would have people accepting the renovations in Anmer Hall was to say ‘it is a permanent move’. Now that it’s all done, sudden change of plan. How convenient!

      On the leading separation lives, I did read an article recently about Prince Charles and Camilla have separate houses. It seems to run in the family since Charles..

      What is for sure is that ‘Normal Bill’ has still not realised that his huge efforts to lead a normal life is actually everything but normal. I find him unstable between Anglesey, Kensington Palace, Anmer Hall in such a short period of time. And I’m sure we don’t know most of what is going on inside. I’m not even sure I want to know!

      • WinnieCoopersMom says:

        It’s interesting to speculate about what goes on behind closed doors, especially if both couples aren’t together all that much. What are they doing when separate? Does Kate bring the kids to her mom’s house? Do her parents visit her and the kids while Wills is away? What is he doing when he is away? not working with helicopters and not doing any events for royal work..there’s some sketchiness going on around there and I want to know what it is. Who are these guys banging? Is it a bevvy of flings or a constant flame? SO MANY QUESTIONS!

      • Zombie Shortcake says:

        Their lives sound like constant chaos.

      • Natalie says:

        I think you’ve got it. They pulled the same stunt when renovating Apt 1A.

      • LAK says:

        Winnicoopersmom: firstly, lurve your username.

        Back to some o your questions, Kate isn’t a discreet as she like to be as far a her habits and or movements. She’s constantly being papped doing her favourite things eg shopping or grooming. She spends a lot of time at her parents home. The giveaway regarding her parents’ home is the increased police and emergency services in the surrounding neighbourhood, if not entire village, when she is in residence. As a result it is easier to track her and work out what she does with her time outside the home.

        William is the mystery. During his RAF days, he was said to be mostly at RAF work, except he nearly lost his wings due to failure to meet the minimum required hours. Minimum requirement is 15hrs per month. We could all track his royal work, which was also the bare minimum. Therefore if he wasn’t at work, royal or RAF, what was he doing? And where was he? He wasn’t with Kate because he was never seen with her despite Kate being easily tracked. That is still the question. These days we can track William via his pilot gig, and possibly via his royal work, beyond that it’s a mystery punctuated with twitter sightings of William in various parts of the country having fun with mates and no Kate.

        There was a website which started tracking both of them based on twitter sightings, and it became very apparent that they were not living together. A case of a marriage of separate lives, just like their dating lives.

      • CynicalCeleste says:

        …But repairing to the country house for the summer and returning to one’s city dwelling for ‘the season’ IS what normal people do….in Jane Austen novels…and, er, the hamptons…

      • Pipa says:

        …the DOC need her own house to see her non-royal children and grandkids.

        Doc don’t see her grandchildren/children at CH (different from carol and the meddletons ever climbing).

    • Charlotte15 says:

      @LAK you really have a photographic memory? That is amazing! And *particularly* helpful with regard to this ongoing story. We know these two try to scrub the Internet (to the extent that they can, which really isn’t much at this point, I wouldn’t think) of anything they don’t see as favorable toward them, but if you have a photographic memory, then WE have a secret weapon 😉

    • Charlotte15 says:

      FLORC: please tell me you know where the photo of that pillow is! That almost makes me lose any shred of respect for Kate’s “style” that I had left 😉

      PS: this was supposed to post way upthread, in the conversation about KP. My phone is acting up today and posting replies all over the place. Apologies!

      • FLORC says:

        charlotte
        It was during a shopping trip. Kate was in black with a pony tail and surrounded by RPOs. It was said to be 1 of the things she purchased. I think Candles were also in the purchase. It stuck out to me because velvet little pillows with those phrases seem like tacky impulse purchases.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Was that the trip with the $1000+ of candles purchased?

      • FLORC says:

        Nota
        Lol! That time or the renovations to the cottage.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        So tacky, FLORC! That is exactly why your comment stood out to me. I am surprised Kate would allow a pillow with a phrase into her home. It was probably a gift for some peasant 🙂

  8. DanaG says:

    All the Royals do what they are doing. Princess Beatrice when she actually bothers to work takes a lot of time off for holidays and waving on balconies. Not sure how long Williams “job” will last for. Eventually they will end up in Buckingham Palace mind you that won’t be for awhile.

    • FLORC says:

      Are we still counting an overnight visit to a friends house as a single vacation? Because if that’s what we’re doing can we call WK’s vacation Mega relocation getaways or something to not lump a 24 hour period or less with a 3 week long stay on an island resort?
      I still admire Bea and Eug’s work with fundraising for medical service charities that gets little to no coverage. Balcony waving though… Keeps the Monarchy visible, but ugh.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Bill and Kate are the third most senior royal couple. A bunch of pensioners further down the line of succession are out-working them every day. That has nothing to do with Beatrice. B is not a working royal, she is a private citizen with famous relatives.

    • Pipa says:

      The Yorks are not funded by POW (unlike Willnot & cannot/two children, and Prince Harry.

      Citresse
      +1000
      HM/BP POW- The Firm putting foot down on these two (longevity of the Monarchy…).

  9. Citresse says:

    This, I think, is from the Top. HM, is not William’s Landlady, however I think she’s essentially evicted the Cambridges from lazy days at Amner to London, to finally get to work.

    • Imo says:

      Not likely. Liz can’t be that bothered by things, per her usual.

    • Chrissy says:

      If you can call going to Rugby matches, work.
      HM is known for imitating an ostrich – ignoring what’s staring her in the face until the last possible second, so I don’t know… Maybe Charles ran to Mummy when Bill Middleton refused to help with the Prince’s Trust. Something’s gotta give though. I hope you’re right, Citresse.

      • Megan says:

        William is the royal patron on the Wales rugby team, just like Harry is patron of England’s team. So, yes, showing up for his patronage is work.

      • FLORC says:

        Megan
        Is showing up to spectate work? Or showing up, meeting officials, shaking, hands/speech maybe, and then spectating work? Or at least 1 of those things with spectating. Not simply spectating a match you’d already make time for.

      • layla says:

        So we’ve realised that Megan is #poorjason, right?! 😉

      • FLORC says:

        Megan has been around pre jason. We may not agree, but her comments are level headed without being close minded.

      • cristine says:

        @florc: that’s your interpretation of Megan’s posts.

        layla was joking. no need for such a reply. she is entitled to her views just as you are entitled to yours.

      • bluhare says:

        Perhaps you don’t realize English isn’t FLORC’s first language and some sarcasm doesn’t translate well for her, cristine. And I agree with FLORC’s interpretation of Megan’s posts for what it’s worth.

      • FLORC says:

        Layla
        Sarcasm is routinely lost on me in text. Sometimes I don’t bother.
        I did try to not phrase my comment as to seem snarking. More to give a compliment to Megan’s posts. We don’t often see eye to eye, but I value their approach to the threads.
        I don’t see how you read my comment as offensive, but it wasn’t the intent.

        All said though. Unless it’s very obvious, or i’m familiar with the posters sense of humor the sarcasm gets me every time!

    • Charlotte15 says:

      CITRESSE: I would like to think this is true but somehow I doubt it. HM doesn’t seem to want to rock the boat and create any conflict or tension where W&K are concerned, especially at her age. I can’t say I blame her; she has MORE than done her duty by now.

      Unfortunately I think Charles is going to be the one who has to deal with the W&K shitshow and he knows all too well that William can be vindictive – he won’t want to jeopardize his ability to have access to his grandchildren. Hopefully I’m wrong.

      What I would give to be a fly on the wall in BP for some of these discussions about “The William Problem!”

  10. Sixer says:

    ALERT! ALERT! HEIR TO THE HEIR LATEST TO SUFFER FROM ZERO HOURS CONTRACT* BLIGHT!

    Normal Bill is unable to adequately fulfil his normal ambition of being a full-time air ambulance co-pilot due to the EVIL EAAA, who have put him on a zero hours contract. Many of the great unwashed, aka his subjects-to-be, will sympathise, as they too are struggling by on whatever hours Tesco or McDonalds offer them this week.

    SOMETHING MUST BE DONE

    (*Zero hours contracts are where a Britisher employer doesn’t guarantee any working hours for staff. Subject to multiple campaigns against them at the moment. This is my suggestion for a #poorjason spin.)

    PS: Just because I can, I shall quote the arch anti-monarchist, Morrissey. BULBOUS SALUTATIONS. Turns out he can’t write a sex scene very well at all.

    • frisbee says:

      Pureeeeze stop giving Jason idea’s, the poor sod must be getting desperate by now and this is such a brilliant bit of spin desperation might drive him to try something like it.
      “William regrets his departure from EAAA service due to his PROTEST at the cleaning staff zero hours contract!” The Prince ‘confided’, “they don’t get the hours they need to keep the place clean and really, it’s unhygienic and that’s bad for them, bad for us and bad for the plebs, I mean, patients. If they institute ‘Living Wage’ contracts then I’ll reconsider my position. Sadly I have to go and watch Rugby, I mean do some Charity work or other with commoners, I mean my people, of course I do.”
      PS I didn’t even know Morrisey had written a book, really must get out more.

      • Sixer says:

        I recommend searching the quotes from the Moz novel. Almost as good as #piggate!

      • frisbee says:

        I have ‘read the quotes’ (allegedly) I read some words that seemed to have nothing to do with each other. I couldn’t make head or tale of it. ‘Bigmouth Strikes Again’ seems appropriate

        Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking
        When I said I’d like to
        Smash every tooth in your head
        Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking
        When I said by rights you should be
        Bludgeoned in your bed
        And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
        Now I know how Joan of Arc felt
        As the flames rose to her Roman nose
        And her Walkman started to melt

        *sigh* he used to be a poet.

      • COSquared says:

        HAMERON be the word of 2015. #piggate.

  11. Karen says:

    They’re probably doing so much refurbishment on Amner Hall they need to go to London while it’s being done.

    The 2 weeks of “work” they’ve done in the London area hardly counts as “splitting time between estates”.

  12. India says:

    The Potato Head looks like an escapee from an insane asylum in the second photo. Maybe that’s where she is moving. Her stay there is long over due.

  13. saywhatwhen says:

    But enough of them though Kaiser. Give us some bearded ginger. Sick of these two scroungers.

  14. Vava says:

    They are going back to London for a couple of reasons. No. 1 is so they can more easily keep tabs on Harry and tag along with him during his royal duties. No. 2 is so Kate can do better shopping and more easily go visit her mother in the countryside.

    By early next year, William will no longer be working as a copilot. That is my prediction.

  15. seesittellsit says:

    No surprise here – if they’ve been forced to step up their (cough) work load, Anmer Hall will be inconvenient, as the more high-profile events will be in London. And if they’ve been criticized for being “out of touch” in the country, being seen to live in the capital at least part of the time will make them seem more part of the Fabric Of The Nation.

  16. anne_000 says:

    That article makes it sound like they’re very busy people trying hard to be responsible and juggling two jobs and home life and that they’re so put upon by being forced to travel so much but that they’re going to do it anyways because they’re dutiful.

    And see how this life is making the lives of their children so unstable? No continuity at one place?

    And now they’re more than just a normal, middle class family who get to stay in one home. They’re better because their life is harder. Noblesse Oblige. So they earn their royal comforts. See? They’re not slacker flakes. The public should be appreciative.

    #PoorJason wants it to sound like it’s #PoorWilliamAndKate.

    So how long will they actually be in London or the UK anyways? They’re going to Mustique for most of November. And then there’s that report that they’re allegedly planning to go back to the Caribbeans in Spring. But on official work, of course.

    Also, it’s going to be winter soon, so it might be easier to deal with the snow in London rather than AH. And it’s easier to go to friends’ winter parties and shopping and the salon and whatnot.

    • notasugarhere says:

      It does read like a sympathy play from #poorjason. “Oh won’t someone think of the poor children, being rushed from palace to country mansion? Their parents cannot handle working 1 hour a week without it upsetting the nursery schedule.”

      They’ll try anything to avoid working, and using the kids as an excuse is SOP from these two.

      • LAK says:

        Well, they never thought about PGtips’s disrupted schedule when Kate kept (still keeps) taking him to Berkshire.

  17. Tessd says:

    I really do NOT understand how the people of UK can be OK with supporting the lifestyle of these leeches? Like, WTH are you guys even thinking? Is it not obvious they just take the money and enjoy. The royals are like your nation’s children that expect their parent’s check to pay for their rent, cars and shopping without any reservations. I don’t buy the whole “they are bringing in money” – puhlease! Do you think people would stop visiting UK if these users were gone?
    It is beyond my comprehension.

    • anne_000 says:

      I don’t understand that excuse either. Do they think that tourists go to the UK expecting to meet up with the Royals?

      • hogtowngooner says:

        Not necessarily, but they’d go to see the palaces, etc.

        But they do that in France too, and they got rid of their monarchy!

      • FLORC says:

        And it can be argued successfully if going by the numbers that without a sitting monarchy you have more rooms and art to display. Also no living members to require upkeep by birthright.
        Time and time again countries where the royals have vacated take in far more than sitting and the profits are higher. Further to my point sitting royals are not there to change the existing structure. What is there remains and in it’s true condition that we go to see and marvel at.

    • seesittellsit says:

      +1,000. Off with their heads. Only they’re going to have to give her quite the haircut first. . .

      • TessD says:

        Are you referring to Kate’s locks? You know, funny but I don’t think she would mind so much if the monarchy was abolished. Will has plenty of money (in addition he has been using his name and title to get tons of free perks) ,her family has money so either way these two would be doing splendid and probably even better than now since the media will stop yelling at them for being lazy.
        It’s the rest of them who won’t let it happen. The extended family and the stuff. They are too comfortable, to nice and snuggly in their positions.

      • FLORC says:

        William’s money is not that much. The way they live it would be gone in a few years.
        I think recently LAK broke it down. To live in a home compared to AH it would be 5mill. taxes upkeep, minimal staff with minimal vacations… No money in a very short time. So, it mattters a great deal that William remain royal or he’d be without free housing and have to start paying taxes. He also has no income past the 40k pounds he’s said to be thinking of donating. 40k he gets for less hours than required by any other copilot of his position.

        William cannot survive on his own.
        Neither can Kate. She needs her father in law or her parents to provide. Unfortunate, but supported to be true.

      • Kaianne says:

        The way they live?
        I think William and Kate has live rather frugally than some B grade artist who jetted here and there. Or flaunting $50K outfit.
        Duchess of Cambridge actually is not shy on wearing the same clothing four or five times.

        If they go for holiday three times in a year that is so basic. I have a friends that goes for holiday 5 times in a year and for them that is standard, they are not royal nor millionaire they are people who loves travelling and managed their funds well.
        If Britain become republic, William and Kate will survived. William invested the money he had inherited from late princess Diana’s estate and jewelries among personal effects he inherited from late mother estates which worth tons of money.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Kaianne it was recently revealed that W, K, and Harry share $4.6 million a year out of the Duchy for their “expenses”. $4.6 million a year. Bachelor Harry with his one bedroom flat at Kensington takes a much smaller share out of that than W&K with their rent free 50+ room mansion in London or the rent free 10 bedroom mansion in the country. W&K with their two housekeepers, nanny and subnanny, cleaners, etc. take the lion’s share.

        They holiday much more than 3 times a year, it is just that they are very good at hiding them. See the France skiing holiday from a couple years ago, when the only proof was one cell phone snap. Or the mystery Mustique holiday where she gained her diving certification, which may have taken place a couple of months ago.

        William’s inheritance was around 10 million pounds. The way they live, that isn’t a lot of money. If they had to pay for their lifestyle out of William’s money, they’d only last a year or two.

      • Peanutbuttr says:

        The UK is ranked only 9th in tourism, behind France, which has no monarchy anymore and China, which also has no monarchy and requires a visa for many foreign nationals.

        Buckingham Palace actually only had 413,000 visitors, well below the 8 million for Versailles and the 2-3 million plus for the Hermitage in Russia, which was once the residence of the Tsars.

      • FLORC says:

        Kaianne
        She wears outfits 4 or 5 times? Thought she tapped out at 3? She does own variations of the same thing, but not the same. Like the pants and striped shirts.
        Her outfits in full can cost thousands and they are still listed as casual.

        To add to what Nota said they do hide their vacations well. Sometimes they’re only admitted to because someone caught a photo of them and it hit twitter.
        Each vacation regardless of who pays for the fun costs taxpayers for their securty. Their housing and meals too. Millionaires have private funds. And while Will has private funds he does not spend it. Freebies are haggled and gifts are accepted. Not discounts, but gifts which can bite them down the road.

        If William and Kate expect to live as they do without the free housing, no income outside of the 40k pounds he makes as a pilot working less hours than that buys (from directly being royal), and free of taxes overall cost of living not even counting vacations he will be poor swiftly. William’s personal wealth is greatly overstated when compared to his current spending for just creature comforts. It would not go far.

        And regarding William’s job. If he was off the streets civilian he would get away with less. He would have to work the full shifts and not get as sixer stated a no hours contract, but still get full salary.
        That’s like promising a years pay without expecting an hour of work.
        With the actual numbers at best William could only suppliment his savings with 30 or 40k a year.

    • frisbee says:

      Some of us are not ok with it at all and find it immensely irritating/anachronistic.

      https://republic.org.uk/

  18. aurelia says:

    man i dig that Republic blog. Enjoyed how they explained that tourism to London would actually increase if the royals weren’t there. Not decrease as monarchists always claim.

  19. aurelia says:

    And who seriously gives a rats ass if there 2nd kid wears onsies until she is 1???

    • Kaianne says:

      my sentiment Aurelia. Too much bullocks about the royal and mostly made up.
      I was reading a glowing thread online about William taken over late Princess Diana’s charity last night. This thread seems to focus on too much negative about Prince William and Duchess Catherine. With their lifestyle and now parenting. If William and Kate buy stylish clothing for Princess Charlotte.
      Headline will be: The Cambridges wasting the tax payers money with designer clothing for one year old princess.

      I felt too much about the royals on this thread and mostly negative that I stopped reading some thread or commenting.

      • FLORC says:

        Some are very awful. This thread sticks more to facts and logic.
        And it’s the skeptics that have been fooled before by this working flurry before a series of vacations. It’s like clockwork and we all call it before it happens. If not a pr game then we’re psyhic. Must be those tin foil tiaras…

    • Timbuktu says:

      THANK YOU! I couldn’t believe no one else was rattled by that, it amazed me more than anything else. Seriously, protocol for that? And since when? Didn’t they used to dress boys and girls the same in infancy, in gowns, back in the day? So, who and when felt the need to write up what a little princess should where in our day and age? Seriously, so if they wanted to dress Charlotte in a dress before her 1st birthday, they couldn’t?

      • LAK says:

        It creating a sense of specialness of the royal children.

        That’s why they had that throwback christening.

        I hope the part about Charlotte’s clothing isn’t true, but as we’ve already seen, despite apparently hating modern protocol, WK keep going backwards to a more stifling age with rigid protocol and societal norms.

      • Pondering thoughts says:

        @ LAK

        You are probably right about “sense of specialness”.

        I think they might be somewhat desparate if they have to cling to such un-modern status symbols like that ridiculous lacquerated baby stroller at Charlotte’s christening.

        They stick to rigid protocol and societal norms to reassure themselves as Royals: because less and less people buy it and because Will and Kate are no-content vacuous empty shells.

  20. emma says:

    LOVE that coat… thing

  21. Caroline says:

    Diana was never correctly Princess Diana. It was an unofficial title given to her mainly by the press. She could only have been correctly called Princess Diana if she was a Blood Princess as Alexandra and Anne are. She was maybe called Princess Diana so frequently as a sign of affection and because these times were more formal so the press and people would not want to call her Diana. Kate is more generally referred to as “Kate” or “Catherine”.

    When Diana died the British TV stations referred to her formally in all the announcements as Diana, Princess of Wales as she was divorced.