Countess Kate wears bespoke Christopher Kane in Scotland: lovely or boring?

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I forgot this trip was happening, honestly. These are photos of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge in Dundee, Scotland, where they were on a day-trip/tour today. Actually, when they’re in Scotland, they are referred to as the Earl and Countess of Strathearn. Countess Kate actually sounds so much better than Duchess Kate, just my opinion.

Kate’s coat here is a “bespoke” piece by Christopher Kane. “Bespoke” meaning the designer made it for her and tailored it to her proportions. While I’m never really jealous of Kate’s clothes, I often enjoy her coats and this one is really pretty. You might want to click on one of the close-up photos just so you can see the detailing on the coat and the interesting fabric. It’s a nice choice, and from what little I can see of her dress underneath, it seems to be made of the same or similar fabric. She paired the Kane coat with black suede boots which are… fine. I’m sure we’ve seen those a million times before too. The hair is working my last nerve though. It’s very Loretta Lynn-circa-1972.

Anyway, for their third day of work this week, Will and Kate are packing in back-to-back events in Dundee. They’re attending an anti-bullying workshop and they’ll be meeting with leaders in “Scotland’s youth mental health sector.” They’ll also visit the Dundee Repertory Theatre, visit Captain Scott’s “The Discovery” ship and conclude their visit with a stop by Abertay University. You can read more about the visit here.

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  1. Die Zicke says:

    I love the color of that coat. I don’t hate her hair.

  2. GoodNamesAllTaken says:

    She has pretty coats and boots. Her hair, though. It ruins everything.

    • Franca says:

      I might be blind or something, but I love her hair. She look much younger and softer with her hair down.
      The coat is to die for.

      • aaa says:

        I don’t think there is anything wrong with Kate’s hair but sometimes she wears the wrong style for the occasion or it does not complement what she’s wearing. Also she fiddles with her hair or she has to put it in place – to me a quick tuck is not a big deal but it should not be an ongoing thing especially when you are on a grandstand at a somber event.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        You’re not blind, or “wrong” for liking it. I just find it too “big.” I don’t mind long hair, or thick hair, but I hers just overwhelms her, to me. All I see is huge hair. Maybe she’s secretly from Texas, where the motto is “the bigger the hair, the closer to God.”

      • Feeshalori says:

        It is a huge mop of hair. In the last photo all you can see is a tiny profile surrounded by acres of hair. Kate just gets lost in it.

        But the coat and color are beautiful. It matches Big Blue so well!

    • Minnie says:

      That eyeliner ruins everything.

    • Sixer says:

      GNAT – I usually don’t bother commenting when the BRF posts are all about fashion or make up or hair, cos I just have no interest in these things. But really! The Wiglet Wagon is in overdrive. That hair/wig has gone triffid on us. I think Katie Bucket’s fake mane will make it to Mars before NASA at this rate!

      • LAK says:

        Glad to see you’ve joined the wiglet wagon Sixer.

        This latest one is a thing of beauty. We are in Dolly Parton country. Won’t be long before we reach regency levels, no?

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Lol, so true. It’s enormous.

      • Sixer says:

        Haha. Not usually my interest but you’re right! We’re into uncharted waters, even for the Regency. It’s like a virus of a wiglet! If I notice, it must be obvious!

      • Azurea says:

        Maybe she’s working her way up to Duchess of Devonshire or Marie Antoinette hair….like a castle in the air.

      • Liv says:

        So funny that she gets more hair while he….doesn’t.

        😉

      • Ramona Q. says:

        What is a wiglet?

      • FLORC says:

        Ramona Q.
        A wiglet is an atachment of hair blended to add volume. There’s a link below in a cluster of links showing it well.

    • noway says:

      I love the coat, and her hair looks good down, but I think the hair looks a bit too styled. The flip looks very 70’s and I think she would look better if she just let the bangs hang a little more. Don’t kill me but she might need to cut it a bit more, but I think that would look better than the flip.

      • LAK says:

        Looking at the pics on the DM, without zooming in, i’ve decided her hair isn’t that long. Most of the length is coming from the wiglet. Her own hair seems to stop about 2inches above the wiglet length.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        I think the bangs need to go and she should cut it to her collarbone. I wore my hair like hers when I was a high school cheerleader.

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      I think the problem is that her ends are not thinned out enough. I know this issue bc I have thick hair just like Kate, and when it’s cut and not thinned out a little bit at the ends or layered, it’s just way too heavy looking..so this is the end effect. The least she could do with this, if she is wanting to wear her hair down, is to pull it half up. That way, she can have it down, but it will look more polished and less heavy. win-win.

  3. Seraphina says:

    Nice coat. Tailor made clothing always looks great. Those boots need to go. And she looks so much better with a smile on her face. I was looking at the pictures from the state dinner with China, and she looks like she’s been hypnotized in many of them.

    • FLORC says:

      Not true. There are several bespoke items Kate has worn that appeared poorly hemmed, frayed at the ends with loose thread and poorly tailored. This looked good though. It also looks basic like something sold on mass and could be tailored to her.
      When I read bespoke I want to see original.

      • Seraphina says:

        Depends on who is doing the tailoring.

      • FLORC says:

        That’s a big question. Who tailors her clothes? The gray draping dress post pregnancy I think was a nightmare and it was bespoke. Mcqueen? Jenny?
        Several coats also come to mind with button erros, loose threads, and uneven hems on top of other flaws for very pricey items.
        There reaches a point where you pay for a name, but also for quality in bespoke items. When there’s quality lacking it’s all too obvious.

        And with these issues so obvious you wonder if this was a last minute choice done in a rush or is Kate doing the alterations or is there just someone who’s horrible at their job in the palace tailoring?

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think a lot of her Jenny Packham’s are poorly done. The baby pink with pleats and visible snaps pulling the fabric, the blue tinfoil maternity one with bizarre back pleats, the red NZ coatdress nobody bothered to weight properly.

        Or it is one of the many tasks they’ve thrown on the over-burdened housekeeper, either the one at KP or at Anmer. Remember the job posting? That was four people worth of work.

      • hazel says:

        This may be bespoke, but it pulls at the top button. That button should have been moved over a smidge. Since the coat is exactly the same as made for her a few years ago, in a light blue fabric, I’m guessing Kate’s measurements have changed a bit since the second baby & they didn’t bother to double-check. And the fabric is a mini-houndstooth (dogstooth, in England), all the rage for Fall, apparently (at least, according to the Target commercials I’ve been seeing lately). And I don’t think that’s a dress underneath, but a turtleneck & skirt. Nice outfit without the coat. Sort of schoolgirl-ish, but pretty.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        @FLORC, NOTA, and Hazel, it always astonishes me how ill-fitting many of her bespoke pieces are…what is going on with that? Considering what she’s probably paying, the fit and tailoring should be absolutely impeccable but very often dresses from Whistles look better than the bespoke garments. I don’t get it at all. Is it not someone’s job to be overseeing everything before she steps out in front of the public, especially with a bespoke piece? I have absolutely no background in sewing but it even jumps out at me how badly certain things hang or pull when they should be flawless. SMH!

      • FLORC says:

        Charlotte15
        1st. Kate pays for nothing. William also since he’s famously cheap with his own money. It’s Charles and his dutchy or funneled tax funds who purchase her work attire.

        2nd. No clue. I suspect Rebecca Kate’s assistant doesn’t notice or won’t speak up. Or Kate doesn’t bother to have things overlooked? I lean this way because the light fabric with no undergrments would have been mentioned as a nono before had anyone been able to give unbias input.

    • silken_floss says:

      Agreed on the boots! She has the worst taste in shoes!

      • Em' says:

        So true. Her shoe game is terrible. All those amazing wonderful boots, heals, ankle boots… she could be wearing… It kills me
        But it’s always so safe, so dated, so suede… That’s part of what make her style so boring.

      • Vava says:

        Suede doesn’t tend to photograph well unless it’s immaculate. So many times Kate shows up with messy looking suede. I’m a shoe person and that is the first thing I look at. (The next is the tailoring because I am a seamstress). This pair of boots must be relatively new because they aren’t as beat up as some have been in the past. I would think she’d be tired of this style, she’s worn it so much. They just don’t seem very fashion forward to me, either.

    • Olenna says:

      Seraphina, you are so right. Those boots need to be put away, forever. I don’t care for the bandy-leg look they give her and that suede seems take all the polish off her ensembles when she does get it right like with this coat. Camilla needs to ditch her suede boots, too.

      • Pondering Thoughts says:

        I start thinking that wearing boots is some kind of upper-class-code for
        “I am a country person landed gentry aristo”
        or
        “I am so rich I own a country estate and coming from there so I still wear my boots”.

    • layla says:

      At first I was presently surprised when I saw the header pic and thought – Wow! She’s *finally* wearing a pair of chic pants under that coat *fist pump!* …. but then I realised, as I scrolled down through the pics, that indeed no luck just the same old ugly pair of boots that do not go with the length of that coat.

  4. Goats on the Roof says:

    That hair is a tragedy. Nice coat, though.

  5. als says:

    Is she not allowed to wear pants? I never see her in pants.

    • LAK says:

      How have you missed her jeggings?

    • FLORC says:

      Lol she is. And she does wear pants, but they’re jeggings or skinny jeans.
      She could rock some trousers. She should too. Much of her role so far is only presentation from her own making.

      • Chrissy says:

        Personally I think she’s obsessed with flaunting her legs. That’s why she wears dresses/ skirts, jeggings, sky-high heels and today’s tight boots (with the matching tights). Trousers would hide her legs. She wants people talking about her slim figure because she’s obsessed with it herself. JMO

      • Sara says:

        Or she just likes dresses jfc

      • WinnieCoopersMom says:

        @Chrissy, I so agree. When she is insecure about everything else (hair, makeup, wardrobe) she knows that her thin pins are her old stand by, the one thing she wont have to worry about.

      • FLORC says:

        Sara
        She also might like going commando from history, but she’s dressing for work here. I’d love to wear jeans some days, but for my job I must look the part and be respectful in my appearance.
        And imo a tall set of legs and a (if even small) bottom look better than they are in properly tailored trousers. Showing it all removes mystery. Clothes tight in the right areas and not all over do more in more ways.

        And Kate wears dresses, but in her down time she’s leaned more to pants and when she was a healthier weight she didn’t pour herself into pants. Same timeframe when her style seemed suitable to her. She owned her look in that way.

        Chrissy
        For a while William was not around. When he was Kate would hike up the hemline and remove undergarments. This seemed failproof too.
        There were a few personal outsings like a Pink and brown outfit Kate wore with William to some horse races I think. It’s a great example in context of catching his eye when he would show up.

  6. Claire says:

    Blue is her colour…much better than the D&G disaster. Her hair is growing out of proportions.

    • Olenna says:

      Yes, that’s a nice coat, good color. But that hair? It’s like one of those Crissy dolls–she just pulls on it when she wants more.

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      It is very reminiscent of her famous engagement dress worn for the announcement..is it not? That was my first thought here.

  7. Mia V. says:

    Nice coat for Kate, the Lazy, but those boots kill it.

  8. Betti says:

    She looks quite relaxed and happy here – the best she’s looked all week. Not long till that Mustique vacation so last ditch to get numbers up. Guess they have been listening to #poorjason.

    Love the coat and colour – she suits colours like this.

    The Fail has a close up of her face – makeup is thick and looks photoshopped. As others said yesterday she’s back on the ‘tox and it looks like she’s had cheek fillers. Shame she’s resorted to it at 33 as she is a naturally attractive woman.

    • LAK says:

      Wouldn’t cheek fillers make her less jowly and more apple cheeked?

      • Betti says:

        Myabe but i thought she did look at bit ‘apple cheeked’ in the area under her eyes.

      • LAK says:

        My standard of filler apple cheeked is Madonna from a few years ago!!!!

        Or Jen Aniston several years ago at a Spanish photocall of film she made with Gerald Butler.

      • AMY says:

        Could the “jowls” actually be salivary gland swelling from chronic bulimia?

      • wendi says:

        AMY – I think you could be on to something…

      • FLORC says:

        Amy
        I’m extremely doubtful on that. Jowls are a common side effect of smoking and rapid, extreme weight loss. Dehydration also. Toss in the genetic hand the Midd women are playing with and jowls are a common outcome. To speculate bulimia is very extreme and counter to logic. There are known behavioral factors here that cause jowls. To speculate an unkown factor feels like Occam’s Razor and Bulimia is the Zebra,

      • AMY says:

        FLORC, I don’t think that the possibility of bulimia is as far fetched in this case as you make it out to be. Kate is not at a healthy weight. Many who severely restrict their food intake, as she appears to do, will resort to purging as a compensatory behavior. Those who do this regularly can develop swelling of the salivary glands, which appears as a puffiness of the cheeks. Also: is smoking currently a “known” habit of Kate’s? And to my knowledge, dehydration does not cause a permanent deformation to the skin such as jowls. I don’t think her mother has jowls, either, weakening the genetic argument. So I respectfully disagree with your reference to Occum’s Razor and zebras.

      • FLORC says:

        Amy
        No Kate is not at her natural weight and for a time she was unhealthy. Currently she looks on the lower end, but not in a clinical low range. Also Kate is known to work out often and her diet consists of low calorie or liquid nutrients. Often we hear the latest trend she follows.

        And yes. It’s confirmed Kate has smoked for years with occasional shots that aren’t published, but are seen here and there of Kate with a pack or holding the cig.
        It’s been no secret for ages she’s smoked and kicked it up for her wedding planning.

        Now, it’s not a guarante yoour cheeks will swell with bulimia. Or that those who restrict their diet are bulimic. Regarding thi I wonder if it appears more rational because Diana had it.
        Dehydration can cause deformation as long as it’s there. And the genetic argument is not weakened. Carole has them. Both women has some cosmetic help so they’re not always seen, but as cosmetic help sibsides it’s there again.
        It reads like you’re justifying Zebras by dismissing the valid points or not being aware of them to start. Just my 2 cents.
        But is that doesn’t at least sway you as a likely and valid possibility we can agree to disagree. I’m not saying bulimia is an impossible factor, but it’s a stretch that has to pass at least 3 other likely causes for jowls.

    • Goats on the Roof says:

      In those pics, her forehead is very creased and very mobile. She actually has two very large horizontal lines that are apparent when her face is relaxed. I’m not convinced she’s back on the Botox yet. As for fillers, I doubt it…as LAK said, she’s too droopy and jowled at the moment.

      • LAK says:

        I think there is a very light application in places near her eyes.

        The ends of eyes droop as much as the jowls when she hasn’t botoxed them.

        Overall, she has a very tired, jowly, haggard face without any botox. She always looks ‘alive’ when she has been at the tox.

        The dieting doesn’t help because the extra weight in her face reduces the drooping.

      • Goats on the Roof says:

        Honestly, I don’t know why she would get a bit of Botox round the eyes, but neglect her forehead. We all know she’s ‘toxed it to high heaven in the past, so why skip it now? I just don’t see it.

      • Amber says:

        That’s what I think too @LAK. She’s never as squinty and doesn’t pull as many weird faces when she’s pregnant and off the ‘tox. The dead giveaway for me is always, “Does Kate look like she can blink properly?”, “Are her eyes the same size in ANY photo?” If the answer is no to those two questions then she’s been toxing. IDKY she’s skipped the forehead. Perhaps she thinks she’s fooling people–As everyone knows the signs of a botoxed forehead nowadays–And this is a more “natural” look. Other plastic surgery, botox, photoshop, and caked-on, cheap makeup don’t count.

        I wonder if taking care of droop like hers would require fillers of some kind to get the best result? And Ultherapy or botox wouldn’t cut it? I mean, we can tell from her hair, makeup and general skincare that Kate doesn’t get the very best help, or any help. And if she gets great advice she doesn’t take it. Maybe she doesn’t want to do fillers or other alternatives. Maybe it hasn’t been suggested to her. Maybe it’s an any day now kind of thing. Maybe she absolutely doesn’t need any of it and should just take better care of her skin, starting by gaining a few pounds. What is clear to me is that something has gone wrong with her mouth http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/23/11/2DB235A200000578-3285977-image-a-107_1445596414658.jpg The clinching and pursing has increased tenfold lately.

      • Pondering Thoughts says:

        @ Amber

        Kate’s upper lip looks a very little bit bigger in that picture. Usually she doesn’t have much at all and pretty much none when she smiles.

        I wonder if she has had cheek fillers because she is thin as a toothpick but has full cheeks. And those are some serious lines on her forehead.

      • FLORC says:

        I went in for my botox treatments recently. Not cosmetic! I asked my doctor about it and he said she’s got all the hallmarks of light and heavy botox use.

        He also said she has deep lines like Gordon Ramsey who also botoxed at one point to smooth them out. Gordon has more skin and different facial makeup so they are far more obvious ofcourse.

        I still look for those *bunny lines on the nose in smiles. The whole face wrinkles except the forehead causing the nose to scrunch up.
        *learne here, confirmed by doctor.

  9. Megan says:

    she should wear that color more frequently… jewel tones always look fabulous on her

  10. Megan says:

    Her hair is just AWFUL. I’m a die-hard Kate fan and I just can’t stand her hair. It’s so so so so dated. She clearly has a different stylist who is giving her major-huge-80s-Barbie-hair, and with that flick fringe she looks like my grandmother. AWFUL. Sack the stylist, on the double.

    • Louise says:

      Why the check would anybody be a ‘die-hard’ fan of Kate Middleton? What does she do? She has no talent as such, she is where she is because of who she married. I don’t get why people idolise her so much. At least Diana did a lot of good in how she reduced the fear surrounding HIV. Kate just does as little as possible and goes back to K.P to whatever wing her nannies are not in with her babies!

      • wendi says:

        You’re preaching to the choir Louise 😉
        The headline here really says it all: Countess Kate wears bespoke Christopher Kane in Scotland: lovely or boring?
        It doesn’t say Kate delivers a powerful speech on bullying.
        She’s merely a coathanger for her designer clothes. ’nuff said.

      • Goats on the Roof says:

        A-MEN! She married well and is marginally pretty. That’s literally ALL there is to this woman. This one has no substance to admire.

      • Vava says:

        I’ve given up on Kate. I think she’s given up on herself, too. The royal handlers tried to get her to do speeches early on after her marriage, but she didn’t work at it and it showed. So now, all she’ll do is be a coat hanger. Wendi is right.

        I fail to understand why anyone would want so many coats in the same hue. She must have a lot of royal blue coats, yet she trots another one out. It’s beyond boring. It’s wasteful and unimaginative from a fashion standpoint.

        That hair has taken on a life of it’s own. UGH.

      • Allie May says:

        Vava: you are right. She is a college graduate. She should have studied how to deliver a successful speech and should be using that skill. That wouldn’t have been too much to ask of her. She is squandering her opportunities to make a difference in the world.

      • belle de jour says:

        @Vava: “She must have a lot of royal blue coats, yet she trots another one out. It’s beyond boring. It’s wasteful and unimaginative from a fashion standpoint.”

        Couldn’t agree more!

    • bluhare says:

      You can’t be die hard, Megan, or else you wouldn’t suggest her hair is not perfect. 🙂

      • FLORC says:

        Oooo Bluhare!

        Megan
        Kate tried this same style around George conception. She’s repeating this look imo because she likes it. Not because she’s getting someone whispering in her ear.

  11. anniefannie says:

    I’ll never forget my Loretta Lynn hairstyle in the late 80’s and even way back then I had a intervention by my gay squad. Doesn’t she have any friends that will intervene this hair delusion?

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      You should have stopped the question here: Doesn’t she have any friends? The answer is simply no. I think she has no actual close girlfriends and that is why she never does anything fun unless it’s w/ PW or her family members. I find it odd and it must be so isolating.

  12. mkyarwood says:

    My hair naturally does what hers is doing, the random waves and flips, ‘specially around the bangs. I’d rather not mess with it too much so it retains its volume, etc. It’s never occurred to me that someone would be so annoyed with it and say ”her hair is so Loretta Lynn circa 1972’. Now I’ll know to judge myself a little harder before leaving the house in the morning!

    • Christin says:

      If it makes you feel better, I don’t see Loretta Lynn. Her 1970s hairstyle had more forced ‘poofiness’ than this.

      However, this comparison makes me think of Loretta appearing on Hee Haw during that decade, which led me to think Kate is more Hee Haw Honey material (they didn’t have to do much other than look pretty and occasionally say a few words). Now I have a mental image of her in gingham ruffled half-tops and short shorts.

    • vauvert says:

      I agree with you. I think that if you have this type of hair and keep it long – which some of us like and want, then there are not a lot of styling options other than up dos. Now in her case, she has a stylist 24/7 probably but for us normals fancy daily up dos are just not possible. And honestly why bother having long hair if it is always up??
      There are lots of reasons to dislike Kate but the constant put downs about her hair are getting tiring.
      Her coat is a nice colour but this time I hate the ribbed fabric. Ugh.

      • FLORC says:

        Vauvert
        No fan of the ribbed fabric either. It’s a texture thing with me. Hate corduroy too.

        To add, Kate does have a 24/7 stylist for her hair that travels with her and an at home stylist that maintains her locks with hours per week.

        And normally i’d say “what hate?”, but lately i’m catching it too. Not wiglet watch and not point out obvious inflation that seems beyond likely it’s extensions. More from people appearing to just want to attack at any weakness possible. Want to be snarky? Sure! Want to outright tear down a person online because their hair is big and not the numerous other valid reasons? Just Ugh.

        Even the argument Kate should have worn a necklance to the state dinner because she didn’t. A necklace would have looked bad and would be attacked. Since she didn’t wear one let’s go off on that.

    • Deedee says:

      First of all, that’s not all Kate’s hair. She would look less OTT if she removed the extensions. Her hair is her plaything too often. She hides behind all the hair. She has expensive/full-time on-call help for her hair, so there’s no excuse.

    • teacakes says:

      @mykarwood – same here. I naturally have thick, wavy hair with a volume similar to Kate’s in these pictures, and the amount of ‘she has too much hair!’ bitching is really getting to me.

      NOT because I like Kate, because CB is still right about her being bland and lazy, but because it just seems kind of a ridiculous thing to attack for. And since when was thick hair (!!!) a thing to criticise women for even if they’re public figures?

      • wolfie says:

        Teacakes, Kate’s hair was much thinner before she married – look at any of her college falling out of bar photo’s, and you can see she has a normal head of hair consisting of a thin ponytail, like most other people. What I thought interesting about your comment was the assumption that women, if they are public figures, are expected to be phony in the public eye, without scorn.

  13. Vylette says:

    Oh god ,her cheeks are so droopy! She seems to be aging faster. Her face looked younger when she was pregnant.

  14. Louise says:

    Her and Taylor Swift have the same hair problem – boring, ageing, 80s.

    I don’t get it. Is it just their taste? TS has modernized her wardrobe yet her hair remains country soccer mom chic!

  15. GlimmerBunny says:

    I love the Loretta Lynn hair! But then again I’m a sucker for big hair in general.

  16. How many coats does she have that look exactly the same?

  17. India says:

    Looks like she needs more filler in those pouchy droopy jowls.

    • Exactly. Boring. It should be great because it fits well, but she’s managed to make herself look dated with that hair and those predictable black tights and boots and whatnot. There’s no signature to her style. She looks budget here, sadly.

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      A lot of people are commenting on the jowls. I have to admit, I have never seen them on her this severe/noticeable before. She really is aging horribly, and to agree with a commenter above, I think a lot of it does have to do with genetics. Though let me say this, I think the RF must suck the soul out of the women who marry in. I am not defending Waity, I agree she is super lazy. And I would be shocked if I heard she really is a hands-on mother. But I do think choosing to marry into all of this has taken its toll on her, mainly the stress of trying to look and be perfect like a Stepford wife at all times while impressing the Queen (which she does not do successfully) and worrying about where Will is and what he does when he is away. If I had to guess, she is on antidepressants and doesn’t sleep much. I think behind the scenes, she deals with a lot of the same kind of hell Diana did with Charles, but Kate is a robot who suppresses her emotions and would never step out of line.

      • speshul says:

        This exactly. The RF is a massive centuries-old bureaucracy and culture that she stepped into, and when you think about it, she’s never had to play by anyone’s rules before other than her own. Its not even like she had a real career before this where she at least has a point of reference as to obeying protocols. Despite having a Queen at its helm, the RF has a weirdly misogynistic bend towards its female ‘outsiders’ where they are expected to be super-human and demurely perfect, while the males can cavort (privately) as they wish. I don’t doubt that Normal Bill has some side pieces here and there, and enough evidence abounds to make Normal Cathy aware. She has been plunged into an environment she has no control over and that has got to weigh on someone so young and inexperienced. I don’t even really like her, but I feel for her.

      • Betti says:

        Kate is a robot who supresses her emotions because that’s how her mother trained her in their campaign to land Normal Bill. It has nothing to do with Charles and the rest of the RF – its down to her own choices and influence of her mother. In order to keep him she changed herself into the woman that William wanted – simple as that. He wanted a boring stepford wife he can walk over he got one.

      • FLORC says:

        speshul
        What Betti said.
        Kate had a behavioral transformation dating William and it had nothing to do with the Palace.It was for William only. Kate by history made no alterations to please the BRF, but many for William. And William has never made a move to please the BRF either so by association Kate wasn’t impacted by the palace at all.
        Although, Whitaker did speculate a coutire might have requested Kate not get photographed laying spread eagle on a floor with paps and cameras present after that disco party. As the behavior was unflattering for a possible future consort.

        I think the best evidence of Kate acting as she does for the long game is the break up campaign of 07. Kate was said to have been a massive wreck with a broken heart. Yet she was papped nearly every night smiling and having fun for the cameras. She is as she chooses. This girl isn’t forced into anything.

      • Christin says:

        Just looked up the disco photos. Yikes! All I recalled was the rabbit (adult product/bunny outfit wearing) episode, which I remember seeing in a US tabloid at the time. I found that a risqué gamble, if her goal was to get back with Will.

        Can’t imagine the BRF would have been amused by the breakup antics. Yet, she got what she wanted.

  18. Birdie says:

    There is a pic at the Dailymail site of Kate and a woman shaking hands and the woman is so excited to meet her and Kate is looking over her shoulder not paying attention. It’s just a snapshot, but it is kind of hilarious/sad for the woman.

    • Pondering Thoughts says:

      http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/10/23/11/2DB22E1700000578-3285977-image-a-94_1445596224813.jpg

      This one?

      Btw. I really can’t take the Cambridges’ latest mental health crusade seriously: there are 20 times more pics of them walking along a street to greet the crowd than there are information about their cause or about what they did to support mental health.

      • Jan says:

        Exactly , PT. The whole mental health crusade just seems like a ruse to make W&K seem like they’re doing something, anything. Where are the speeches calling for changes in attitudes or any ideas from these two. The pap strolls are overshadowing the good work they should be doing. I guess #poorjason told the “reclusive Kate” and Normal Bill that even if they do little, they need to be seen in order to decrease their bad rep. But they’re still lazy and now appear self-serving and insincere as well. A new blue coat and hairstyle isn’t fooling anyone. They should be ashamed. I feel bad for the Mental Health organizations and those suffering. They deserve better than just this lip service.

      • Betti says:

        Its all image control with these 2 – its not about being actually seen performing royal duties, #whateverthatmeans, They’ve been getting shaded by the press about their lack of work ethic and this is their response – pap walks in aid of a cause that even the press wouldn’t shade. Been taking tips from the Afflecks.

      • DebbieB says:

        It’s so sad that this woman has bought into the waity as Princess/Duchess debacle. This lady is no better than common waity…. Pity that she cannot see the irony in her adoration

    • Zombie Shortcake says:

      Lol, my guess is someone out of frame is taking their pic, so they are both looking toward the camera. I’ll give her benefit of the doubt, but who knows.

  19. Lara K says:

    Yeah, I always giggle at Duchess – it’s the term we use to say our daughter pooped her diaper.
    As in #2 -> Deuce -> Duke -> Duchess.
    When it’s a big one, then she is a Grand Duchess.

    It really helps me not take Kate seriously.

  20. HoustonGrl says:

    Which coat, the one on her body or the one on her head?

  21. Nephelim says:

    I ´m happy she keeps rocking the long hair !

    Team Long hair don´t care !

    🙂

    • wendi says:

      Pssst. It’s a wig.

      • FLORC says:

        Wiglet at most. Don’t make me break out the Wet Wiglet and Wiglet lessons! Bluhare knows. You don’t want that.

    • Nephelim says:

      Well, That´s o.k . Nothing wrong with that 🙂
      She is not the only royal using wiglets / fake hair e. g: Queen Letizia of Spain

      Keeping real or fake
      Long life to the long hair
      lol

      • Krishan says:

        Letizia wears a wig? Her hair is too short and cut too sharp right now to be wearing wiglets and the thickness doesn’t look like it’s changed. Her hair thickness and texture hasn’t changed since around 2006 when she started putting highlights on.

        Or is it because of the never-ending rumours that she’s thin therefore she’s anorexic and her hair can’t be real?

      • Nephelim says:

        Letizia wears a wig?
        Yes
        Hair extensions in the most sophisticated hair updos /chignons to
        the glitzy/ glamourous galas ( mostly of this events are in the past— Princess of Astúrias period) .

        Or is it because of the never-ending rumours that she’s thin therefore she’s anorexic and her hair can’t be real?
        I never mentioned nothing of that kind. Never sugested that. Why are you talking about this?
        Letizia is just a thin person.

      • Pondering Thoughts says:

        @ Nephelim

        Could you provide a link?

      • r-r says:

        @Pondering Thoughts
        Almost every royal woman wears some sort of hair extensions Letizia, Victoria, Madeleine, Mary, Maxima… (mainly for formal events – galas, fancy dinners – Kate is the only one who wears them always). Charlene and now Leti don’t anymore, because of the shorter cut. Letizia has naturally thin hair as you could she when she debutet her short haircut, but here are some pictures of Leti with wiglets (tiara picture – you can actually see where the wiglet starts on top of her head)
        http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6XksQk0aWkc/VS7Z8uHCT5I/AAAAAAAAkmQ/rnXvplAy9Fo/s1600/75-th-Birthday-celebration-5.jpg
        http://wpmedia.o.canada.com/2014/06/170390842.jpg
        http://www.diariofemenino.com/images/galeria/16000/16219_el-semirecogido-de-la-princesa-letizia.jpg
        and one of Kate
        http://40.media.tumblr.com/03e41e65b8b9c4fa3ff0589ecdc1faae/tumblr_nwoo4932kb1ub56y4o1_1280.jpg

      • Nephelim says:

        R~ r : Thank you very much. 🙂
        Pondering Thoughts : Sorry, but I can´t provide you links. The fact is mostly what I read about the Bo(u)rbon family is in spanish.
        You could always use Google and observe her photos. ( specially her glitzy appearances )
        The more sophisticated the updo, ( or “braid-y”/”knot-y” chignon) more you need long and thickest hair

      • notasugarhere says:

        On Cotilleando perhaps?

      • FLORC says:

        Just to chime in extra hair for hairdos is Extremely common! I’m not royal and i’ve used that route for being a bridesmaid and fancy parties. It’s fairly rare people actually have as much hair as some of those hairstyles require fo full form without great length.

        And lol! The glory days of the Wiglet! It boardered that Snookie hair bump thing.

      • Feeshalori says:

        And when it comes to tiara hair, I’d expect you’d need a lot of extra artificial padding to nestle the tiara properly and give the hair the height it needs. I’m sure Queen Silvia must have some extra help for her massive tiaras at times.

      • Pondering Thoughts says:

        @ r-r

        Thank you, now I can see it. And thank you for your descriptions, although I am a woman I really “wouldn’t have seen it”.
        I must say that Letizia’s extensions / wiglet looks really well done and well-blended and appropriate for the occasion.

        @ Nephelim
        Thanks for the answer. Trust me though I don’t speak Spanish (which I regret very much) I would have looked up the links and google translate does a sufficient job for low-brow articles. ;-))

  22. littlemissnaughty says:

    The hair. I don’t even know anymore. It’s so boring and fug and retro in the worst way. She has a sister! Mine would stage an intervention.

  23. Beatrice says:

    I hate those boots. She must have bought several dozen pair because she’s been wearing the same black suede boots since she was a wannabe Princess waiting for the ring. Also it seems that she’s growing more hair day by day–too many extensions and it weighs her face down.

  24. alexc says:

    She looks ok but she is nowhere in the same league as the really classy, sophisticated royals of Sweden, Denmark and Spain. Now those woman have class, style and charisma. Kate is like the frumpy, boring stepsister of these woman. It actually points to a lack of imagination and engagement with her role.

    • Pondering Thoughts says:

      All her imagination goes into wearing a different outfit EVERY day. She has none left for anything else.
      Her wardrobe must be the size of a small house.

  25. Merritt says:

    That is a lovely coat. She should wear that color more often.

  26. What's inside says:

    Blue is a great color on her and she has wonderful taste in coat styles. I thought her hair looked good too now that the bangs appear to be growing out. All in all I thought this was a much better showing for her compared to the grand affair with the Chinese the other day.

    • Green Girl says:

      I think this is a great color for her, too. It looks like it’s almost the same color as the dress she wore for their engagement announcement, now that I think about it.

  27. vauvert says:

    You know what is funny? I was just thinking that if Kate was actually out working hundreds of engagements every year, looking confident and pleased to be there, having causes that she was truly invested in – we would have a lot more positive comments about her looks, hair and clothes. Part of the reason she gets sliced and fed to the cat like this is because we have all grown to dislike her so much because of her work avoidance and inability to string a few articulate sentences together and play the part she has waited so long to get.

    • LAK says:

      This is very true.

    • Tig says:

      I so agree with you! This woman cannot win. I love boots, and these are fine. If she wore $10,000 boots, then she’d be out of touch. Maybe her feet feel good in those?

      I do get the observations re the hair- it’s like it’s wearing her. Someone should tell her she could lose 3/4 inches and not miss it.

      • Pondering Thoughts says:

        She could win but she needs to develop more and work more and not just act like a walking clothes-hanger.

        Her hair is too big, yes. She tries to be a lollipop lady or somebody with a petite figure so her hair has to be big to create those proportions. She isn’t “petite”. She is more the tall strong athlete type with broad shoulders and currently she is starved.

      • aimee says:

        Pondering — again, you read my mind and have said pretty much verbatim what I was going to post.

      • Betti says:

        I agree with Pondering – she could win all it takes is commitment and a bit of hard work. We comment on her appearance as that all she gives us – nothing else. She clearly care very very much about how she look.

      • FLORC says:

        Tig
        Is that what Vauvert was saying?
        Maybe more that Kate is lacking in action and work. That she’s entirely superficial meaning she’s only hair and clothes. No work of note past PR and appearances. What has she done? Outside of showing up to shake hands and listen. Outside of her Press Office saying she’s interested in these causes? What has Kate absorbed and put into action to help her charities she patrons?
        Maybe if this was an easily answered question she would be viewed as more than simple a girl who wears clothes and has hair.
        Infact I know it would go that way. Kate CAN win. Everytime she starts working by appearing for 45 minutes of photo ops she gets praised.
        The only way she can’t win is if she continues to not invest time or energy past an annual short chat with them and no follow up.

        And yes Kate is often attacked for just existing by some, but do not latch onto their mindset becase it’s basic and not valid imo. The question I posed to you. What does she actually do? That is valid. And i’d love for you to have me eat my tinfoil tiara if you can state when she’s impacted them for the better. Even once in 4+years out of 6(?) charities she personally patrons after careful consideration.

    • Christin says:

      She doesn’t offer much else to discuss, does she?

      • Olenna says:

        This. Hair, clothes and one-hour appearances here and there are about the sum of what she offers in terms of gossip. If we stopped commenting on these aspects of her life, the CB Kate threads would probably go away for lack of interest. But, then again, maybe CB would become the new home for all kinds KM sweetness and adoration. 🙂

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      I agree. If she were as hard-working and therefore more likable, like Sweden’s Princess Sofia for example, we would give her way more of a pass on her appearance. Does Sofia hit a grand slam every single time she steps out of the house? No. But we dont cut her down bc we love her attitude and work ethic. She is like a breath of fresh air compared to Kate. And yes, it is fair to compare them. They are both commoners who married into a RF, now in the public eye doing the same job. It is fair to compare.

      • FLORC says:

        Right! I love Sophia’s glow and how she’s handled herself so far. Do I like her outfits or hair? Not really. Do we focus on that or on her substance of speech content vs delivery and rarity. And this girl still has an uphill battle in the press. Kate had it comfy from the start and only gets some backlash because it’s too extreme to not notice.

    • Vava says:

      Yes, that is the root of the situation. Until such time that Kate does something constructive, she will be judged merely on her appearance and nothing else.

  28. seesittellsit says:

    I loathe jewel colors for the most part, but she needs to be seen and it is autumn. I like the tailoring and the boots, it’s appropriate and fresh, and obviously she’s already letting the bangs grow in. She looks better than she did in London.

  29. Kaz says:

    How many coats does this woman own?

  30. may23 says:

    Great figure!! To look this skinny in a coat is wow!

    • kaiko says:

      It’s not hard, just stop eating more than 1000kcal/day and you’ll be a true coat hanger like the Duchess!! 🙂

      • wendi says:

        For more posts from may23, head on over to (insert name of a pro-ana site here).

      • Tessd says:

        And where did I ask HOW to achieve that? 🙂 Nowhere. I know how, I’ve modeled and left the industry because personally I can’t be as disciplined as most of them.

    • FLORC says:

      Because this is a point of value…
      I look that skinny in those coats. Lots and lots of people do. Can we get a “wow!”? I’ll take my wow in the form of a cookie.

  31. Citresse says:

    Like what she’s done with the grown out gringe (saw more photos at DM). The question is: will she go from a Loretta Lynn to a full- on Farrah Fawcett?
    Like the blue outfit but the boots have been recycled a bit too often….would like to see new black boots, different style.
    The Dundee look is a winner!

  32. Kate says:

    I think she actually looks fine.

  33. Cricket says:

    this blue coat is amazing! I love the color and the fabric … is it me or does she look very uncomfortable, reminds me of when I was a little girl and my mother would force me to wear an itchy, tight outfit.. Kate looks very uncomfortable. And her hair is clearly sprayed with hairspray that it looks so stiff a Scottish gale would not move a strand.

    there is a new DM article that does a side by side of Kate to Caitlyn. I was shocked to see how much Kate has aged since the 2010 engagement photo. She looked so happy and cute and young then ..what happened in 5 years?

    • Citresse says:

      Two children (three if you count William) and a lot of smoking, some drinking, extreme dieting and Mustique sun. Not necessarily in that order.

      • Cricket says:

        so sad for someone who could of had it all (adele punn intended, lol) ..

        she waited and chased and waited and now looks miserable..

    • WinnieCoopersMom says:

      @Cricket: I wrote about this above bc I think it is worth noting..in addition to genetics and the sun, this is my theory on her rapid aging (copied/pasted from my comment above).
      Though let me say this, I think the RF must suck the soul out of the women who marry in. I am not defending Waity, I agree she is super lazy. And I would be shocked if I heard she really is a hands-on mother. But I do think choosing to marry into all of this has taken its toll on her, mainly the stress of trying to look and be perfect like a Stepford wife at all times while impressing the Queen (which she does not do successfully) and worrying about where Will is and what he does when he is away. If I had to guess, she is on antidepressants and doesn’t sleep much. I think behind the scenes, she deals with a lot of the same kind of hell Diana did with Charles, but Kate is a robot who suppresses her emotions and would never step out of line.

      • Cricket says:

        Yes Winne! that was what I was trying to get at in my comment. I think she waited and thought she knew what she wanted and now that she is part of it, it’s sucking the life out of her. I think it’s very sad to see as well and would not doubt she is medicated.

        I really wonder if it’s history repeating itself. Every article I read about Kate now, I have the same quote Diana said on film while being interviewed by her speaking coach. She said that when she was a visitor, the RF was very kind and treated her well but once she became part of the family it all changed and they were very cold and isolating.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Sophie and Birgitte don’t appear to have had the soul sucked out of them.

      • Betti says:

        The only people sucking the soul out of Kate are her mother and husband as they want to control her. I agree i think she’s struggling with aspects of the role if not the whole kaboddle but i also think she’s not getting the support from her mother as she’s used to. Carole is too busy focusing on her grandchildren – her new path to greatness. And yes I think that much of them and am sure she loves them dearly but her ambition will always get in the way.

  34. Krishan says:

    She’s almost back to 2011 thinness. Those legs are looking like sticks again.

    I don’t know what she does all day to look so haggard like this but a beautiful coat can’t make up for her lack of gravitas and confidence in doing events like this. Practice makes perfect and if she doesn’t consistently work then all the pretty clothes just hang on her and the hair hides her, too. It’s like a game of “Where’s Kate?” Can’t quite see her between the clothes and the big hair.

    • Pondering Thoughts says:

      Being pin-thin can’t make up for her other deficits, either, but unfortunately that hasn’t sunk into Kate’s head yet.

      She must be starving.

      Jesus, William, do something.

      • aimee says:

        You read my mind. How can the royals sit back and ignore the fact that she is literally wasting away – a shadow of her former self?? You’d think that Diana’s history would provide them with a learning experience..

      • Betti says:

        Yes she is scarily thin – i saw her in person just after the wedding and i could see her knee bones. She always been obsessed with thinness (mother and sister are too) but you must understand that Willy likes his woman that thin – all of his known ex’s were/are.

        Am sure the family have tried to reach out but Willy has isolated himself from the rest of the RF – Harry famously commented after the engagement that he was looking forward to getting to know her. That says a lot about how William treated her – she was good enough for sex whenever he wanted but not good enough to meet/get to know his family during the 10 yrs they dated on and off. He’s an effed up man child – Charles had issues but Willy is worse, much worse than he was/is.

      • FLORC says:

        IMO they did learn from Diana. Kate is coddled. She chooses her work. Not pushed out like Diana was. Kate can be where she wishes and not told she has to be here or there for lengths of time. And Kate can go for weeks and weeks of vacation with no backlash from the palace. Along with “princess lessons” and reports of other royals trying to assist Kate in her adjustments. It’s all the Palace having learned from Diana. So if and when this marriage goes sour the Palace can say they treated her the very best they could and not like Diana was in a sink or swim scenerio.

        Betti
        I often think back to that Harry quote in that context too. She was the mattress and limpet. The gf that knew to not question her bf if he was to remain her bf.
        It’s all very sad, but less so as time goes on.

      • Betti says:

        Florc – yes its all very sad and through time the real story will disappear into the fairy tale. I shade her but i also pity her. She clearly adores him and I’m not convinced he loves her as much as she loves him. She is very much the gilded bird in the cage and if she had any fight, its long been squashed. She could be so much more than she is and it saddens me to see opportunities wasted. But I don’t completely blame her, she has been a pawn in a game that her mother has played since before she was born and one that Willy plays as well. She’s not a bad person and sets herself up for negative press but as she said in their engagement interview, the only person whose opinion she cares about is his – everything she does is for him and thats what makes me sad the most. She gives him her all and gets back from him nothing but contempt and a bad attitude. He treated her like sh!t for 10 years, did she think that being married would make him change his ways.

        But as a friend once said, you get used to being treated like sh!t that you think its normal

      • FLORC says:

        Betti
        IMO we can’t know those details. I wonder if Carole assisted Kate in getting William or is she pushed her daughter to pursue him. To take is mistreatment. It was no secret he stepped out on her and her family supporter her while she kept herself available for him.
        If Kate clung to him for so long she regressed to what he wanted and what made her life easier to accept this change. Becoming a mean girl maybe? Realizing his friends that she had to befriend mocked her. That seems traumatizing.
        Maybe the girl Kate was wasn’t mean. Maybe she’s just a hurt person who lives for another confusing financial security and depending on him with love. Or maybe there’s some type of love there.

        My thoughts? William will defend Kate in the press and public with a fury! How he treats her though? If he respects her enough to no longer wander or snap in his famous temper? I doubt it.

        I felt the same in Diana’s story. Pity for her, but she turned it around. Found purpose outside her marriage as it was no longer for her knowing she deserved love. If Kate found a purpose outside her dressing and hair. I’ll have less pity.

  35. ShazBot says:

    Personally, I’m in the midst of postpartum hair loss and find it traumatizing, and my hair ISN’T my security blanket.
    So I can’t judge her hair or wiglets. She’s probably covering bald spots and is freaking out about it!

  36. Nina says:

    Farrah Fawcett called. She wants her hair back.

  37. Ughhhhhh says:

    Y’all are mean. The appearance shaming of Kate is out of control here. Look, I don’t blame people criticizing her work ethic or clothes or hairstyles, but the vicious comments about her face and how she’s aging are cruel and not at all feminist.

    • Jayna says:

      I find it odd also.

    • koan says:

      I agree

      There is a certain ugliness apparent in many of these comments. I understand the collective perception that she does not portray the work ethic that is deemed appropriate and expected of modern royalty. And that makes people angry or disappointed. Ok.

      That does not mean that the commentary needs to descend to the cruel levels exhibited here. Like her coat or not: who cares? Rip apart her face, hair, personality at every turn? That is unnecessary. It’s not good to read, and I actually feel it’s not good for those who write it.

      • notasugarhere says:

        If you read LAK very good comments from yesterday, you’ll see that it is an outgrowth of what Middleton values. All KM puts forward or puts effort into is how she looks, that appears to be all that she values in herself. And so much of her appearance is false (teeth, hair, plastic surgery).

      • Citresse says:

        I would like to see some befores and afters re- proof of plastic surgery on Kate. I just don’t see it.
        Some people said Diana had a nose job. Again- I didn’t see it based on photos over the years.

      • DestinationUnknown says:

        notasugarhere: Whether Kate values her looks only or not does not justify the scrutiny her face and body receives. It is unhealthy for us to read such negativity and it is unhealthy for those that write those comments. Just because someone is perceived as being vacuous and vain does not give any one of us the license to make such disheartening comments on their appearance. As the so-called fairer and gentler sex, we really should try to be classier with what we say and what we write. Words used to describe Kate: Bulldog, haggard, legs like sticks, medicated, jowly, droopy, ageing, frumpy, starving, wiglet wagon, etc. Just awful. No wonder so many women are so sickeningly insecure – we get judged by men and by our own hyper-critical sex.

      • ZZZ says:

        http://plasticsurgerystar.com/page/kate-middleton-nose-job-plastic-surgery/main_image/kate-middleton-nose-job.jpg
        She actually looks like she has also had chin reduction surgery and a brow lift. No shade there- I believe in women doing what they like to feel comfortable with themselves, but to Google KM close-up images and see how she has changed her face is surprising

      • notasugarhere says:

        DU, this is a gossip site. If you want something else, you are free to go elsewhere. Lectures about what we should or should not post are generally unwelcome.

        Your own narrowly-defined version of the fairer sex would probably feel more welcome on HRHDuchessKate or The Royal Forums.

      • MinnFinn says:

        Destination Unknown, I learn a lot by reading all of the comments about Kate. It exercises the rational thinking parts of my brain, serve as cautionary reminders and give me the occasional LOL.

        But for those who are sensitive about eating disorders or body dysmorphia, I fail to see how posting or reading criticisms are unhealthy.

        And I reject your claim that being female means we are the ‘fairer and gentler’ sex that necessitates burdening us with being ‘classier’ than men.

      • DestinationUnknown says:

        notasugarhere: I guess I’m getting older and wish we all wouldn’t be so critical of someone’s looks whether we like the person or not. You are correct; I don’t really belong or mesh well with this site. I will take my unwelcome posts elsewhere. Have a nice day.

      • FLORC says:

        DU
        Not unwelcomed, but you carry a strong opinion and when voicing it must be able to support it in this forum. This isn’t the post and have others not respond to it place. That’s why we post and can reply.

      • Ughhhhhh says:

        I understand that it’s a celebrity gossip website. That does not place its commenters above reproach. Shaming a woman for showing natural signs of age is cruel and sexist. When it comes to her work ethic and clothes, bash away. But mocking and belittling Kate for having jowls and lines on her face is harmful to not just her but the other women who read these site. Makes me feel terrible about myself. I think the commenters who make these statements should know they’re doing harm. You can say what you want, but people should know the impact of the unnecessarily invective things they say.

      • India Andrews says:

        You realize you’re on a gossip site, right? On a story about Kate Middleton who pits forward nothing of substance, double right? Nuff said.

      • Charlotte15 says:

        Agree with UGH, Jayna and Koan: the pure cruelty has been off the charts here lately. Before anyone says it, yes, I realize the same of the site is CeleBITCHY but it seems to have gotten out of control lately re: Kate and the meanness is staggering. Many of us have agreed that something seems “off” with her recently so it would be nice to see some empathy, but the comments here are just consistently vicious.

    • MinnFinn says:

      Ughh, Jayna, koan

      All ya’ll, a Pippa Tip for you. Cele/bitchy is an amalgam of the words celebrity and bi–atch. Do you also tell the people at E!’s Fashion Police to stop policing everyone’s fashion?

      Photoshopping women (in this case Kate) to appear younger and flawless, smoking and refusing to quit because thinness is more important than health, and extreme dieting are feminist issues. It’s a critical public service to feminism that we call attention to these things every time we see them.

      • Ughhhhhh says:

        So, let me get this straight. Comments that specifically vilify a woman for her jowls and the lines on her face are… Feminist? I’m sorry, but you are fooling yourself if you think you’re doing a service to women by tearing one woman down for aging.

        Again comments on her clothes are completely in bounds. But this community frequently professes that it is pro woman, and comments attacking women for the way showing signs of age are simply not a critical public service. They are cruel and sexist.

      • FLORC says:

        Ughh
        As is much of this site. Are you elsewhere claiming this message?
        Regardng the jowls. It’s an observation. Not shaming her for aging, but being aware of it since this feature is often concealed. It’s being pointed out majority for that reason imo. The rest that are cruel can drive you mad.
        Much like her hair that has often been claimed to be all natural and all hers is brought up when it’s got a noticed wiglet. It’s not to shame for fake hair. It’s to observe and note.
        Worth noting in other articles when Kate’s jowls are visible the theme was she’s stressed or tired, but it’s between touchups generally and fixed shortly after photos get published.

    • TessD says:

      Feminism has nothing to do with it. It’s not nice, yes. It’s not supportive of your fellow, yes. But it has nothing to do with equal rights of men and women. Feminists can be nice or mean, thin or fat and still be feminists.

      • Deedee says:

        To be fair, all these things are discussed with male celebs as well. I also note that the PR statements that Kate is “going to be very busy” and “hit the ground running” are so obviously wrong that they end up making her look bad. The DM captioned one of her pictures praising her “natural beauty” and I wonder are they being snarky? Interesting if they are. My question is why is Kate making herself over so much? She’s a royal, not a movie star. Her natural teeth and hair were fine. Why go so overboard? Is this what Kate wants or does she think this is what Will wants? Or Carole wants?

  38. Jayna says:

    I think she looks lovely from head to toe. I love the blue coat and boots Her hair looks very pretty imo.

    • FLORC says:

      She does.
      Now it’s still valid to point out for this work appearance there’s still no action taken. Only photo ops and an extra number for the final tallies. This is valid in this conversation because she’s wearing a very expensive piece of clothing for a few minutes of smiles and pictures and small talk. On top of being paid for in not entirely private funds.

      To add there was a small bit mentioned on all the tax payer burden and at times charity burden that goes into paying for Kate to have these visits where no follow up occurs or benefit to the charity is given. Only she benefits at the cost of private citizens. It’s interesting if you care about the causes/charities over what Kate wore and pictures of her smiling.

  39. COSquared says:

    The “heavy” end-of-year engagements just seem farcial to me. They just need to boost their (meagre) numbers.

    • Jan says:

      It just shows their lack of sincerity and interest in doing anything like work. Especially if their appearances are very short and include a pap stroll and a new coat or hairstyle.

  40. Jag says:

    Thank you for explaining what “bespoke” meant because I was going to ask. lol

    The coat is nice and the color is gorgeous! And I like her hair, too.

    This is a great look for her, imo.

  41. Malificent says:

    Kate’s hair is definitely not Loretta Lynn circa 1972. It’s quite obviously The Lawrence Welk Show circa 1974.

  42. Tough Cookie says:

    ‘Maybe she’s secretly from Texas, where the motto is “the bigger the hair, the closer to God.” ‘

    I’m a Texan and I don’t know anyone with this motto. Or hair this ugly.

    • Jaded says:

      Haha…I always remember the old joke about what the Texan wife says to her husband when he gets amorous: Sung to the theme song from Bonanza…”Get it up, get it in, get it out, don’t mess my hairdoooo!”

      And her hair is ridiculous.

    • MinnFinn says:

      Tough Cookie – What happened to the famous Texas “Hair Ball”? It’s on my bucket list.

  43. notasugarhere says:

    bluhare, does this count as what you suggested? A tour of somewhere in the UK to get W&K to do something?

    • FLORC says:

      Awesome idea!

    • bluhare says:

      It does. At least they’re out doing something which is why I’ve been pretty quiet. I tend not to criticise her appearance becuase, really that’s her business. I do make an exception and hang out with FLORC in the wiglet wagon, though. That’s just fun. 🙂

      But here’s what I have been thinking. William’s supposed to be working (cough) full time, although we all know it’s part time to make time for royal duties. OK, so he’s doing some. But why are Kate’s appearances mostly with him? She’s got one on her own next week, and had one or two not too long ago, but mostly they’re out together. I’m finding that interesting.

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        I should thank you on your quick reflexes and judgement to grab that Wiglet Wagon Steering wheel when a wiglet catches my eye and needs grabbing! The urge took over me! You can’t drive that thing and grab wiglets! The shocks are no good and we have no power steering. It’s a wagon after all!
        Thank goodness Frisbee and the sixlets power the Wiglet Wayfare.

      • notasugarhere says:

        It is interesting, given that they stated early on that they would be doing the majority of their appearances separately, to “split their influence and have more impact” or something along those lines. What has changed?

      • bluhare says:

        nas, exactly! What has changed? I don’t know. Kate was on her own before, but now most of her engagements have been with William and she looks happier doing it. Maybe it’s as simple as that? I could get more complicated, but that would take brain power that’s better used in figuring out what I want for breakfast right now. 😉

      • hmmm says:

        @ bluhare

        I think they want to kill 2 birds with one stone- get their numbers up ahead of their extended holiday for the next few months. I bet some of the engagements were last minute. and it’s easier to schedule one for both. Also, this takes the onus off the little lady to carry the day. She can defer to William, and concentrate on the pap strut. I imagine she feels “well taken care of” when Willy is around, all that extra power, status, etc. and the inevitable halo effect of the presence of the glorious sun prince; why, even most royals would have to curtsey to *her*!

        She must have one heck of a fantasy life.

      • FLORC says:

        hmmm
        I suspect it’s to get the numbers up. Outside of that i’m sure Kate looks at any time she can get with William as a good thing. If there’s not a camera he always seems to be elsewhere. With kids in the equation that’s getting more attention and more sad.
        With fantasy life I don’t judge.
        And when Zack Effron was rumored to have broken his jaw on a bedroom swing I don’t judge 🙂 He’s too hot.
        But with Kate and extra thought with what insight we’ve had to her on a creative level I just can’t agree with that statement.

  44. Wow says:

    Very interesting that many commenting here about her appearance are the first to jump on the anti-bullying bandwagon when it is someone they admire. It is fine to be critical of her actions or lack thereof but many of these comments are really mean.

    • DestinationUnknown says:

      These are some of the worst comments about a persons appearance I have read in a long time. It’s one thing to analyze what someone is wearing – fabric, style, etc. but, as of late, I feel very uneasy with the viciousness of comments on all subject matter, especially when commenter’s rip apart the way someone looks. Women ripping apart other women and suggesting what type of cosmetic fixes they should use to look better. This is why we don’t win – we don’t support each other. And this is why many are driven to do unnecessary and horrible things to their faces. I come to Celebitchy for the articles and have in the past tried to avoid reading the comments section because of such vitriolic banter. Now and then I crack, read the comments, and once again realize how terrible we can be to each other.

      • Caroline says:

        I agree with this. Bitching of the worst kind. Fair enough criticising her lack of public appearances but the comments about her appearance are ridiculous. Also how come Letizia – who looks much thinner than Kate – is “naturally thin” but with Kate it is anorexic? Please, at least be fair.

        As well, this is Britain and Kate is British so what are all the comments about “bangs”? It is a fringe.

        Regarding the comments at the top, Kate was not wearing a dress underneath the coat, she was wearing a black sweater tucked into a blue skirt/kilt.

        Also, why not look at her more often on the TV? She was on both the BBC and Scottish news channels tonight and you get a much better idea of how she looks from film as opposed to photographs.

      • MinnFinn says:

        Caroline, This website is based in the U.S. Ethnocentric, look it up.

        I’m on my way right now to tell the UK newspaper The Guardian that they are spelling the word colour wrong. It’s COLOR because my ‘Murican ways are the only way!!

      • notasugarhere says:

        You can look historically at photos of Letizia to see that she (and the other women in her family) are naturally small-boned and tiny. She has been the same weight, barring pregnancies, for 15 plus years.

        You can look at historic photos of Kate Middleton to see that she has a medium to large bone structure. She has lost dramatic amounts of weight, in cycles tied to gaining or losing William’s attention, through the years.

      • Olenna says:

        Minnfinn and Nota, I co-sign with you here and above. As long as this site has been around, I don’t know why it’s still necessary to advise some readers that CB is a USA-based celebrity gossip website. It’s not British and it’s not a fan site where people can only read and write what they find acceptable about a celebrity. There are sites for that, like Tumblr or some of those royal blogs. And, seriously, if people find the comments disturbing, they should take their concerns directly to the CB staff who monitor the content.

      • FLORC says:

        There’s so negaitve and so positive waves here. Or rather so negative waves and then others only speaking like the negative wave is the only wave of thought. You either attack her or you defend. No thought of context or scenerio. Black and white.

        What about the rational and logical content? I dislike the extremes and may go off here and there, but it’s my choice to come here. My choice to read. My choice to respond. You guys got problems with comments? Report them. If they stay up it’s more likely you just disagree and can only argue an opinion vs. the quality of the post.

        MAny posters here are bad. Many fine. MinnFinn, Nota, Blu, LAK, AH, Megan, and MANY others are wonderful and insightful. And I don’t agree with them all all the time, but they have valid points and I enjoy challenges in conversation. It’s partly why I come here. So i’m not just nodding my head with similar opinions. Because that’s boring.

        And since you guys are finding conversation about attacking a woman’s appearance so awful maybe you’d like to go to other threads where women are routinely torn down on physical appearance alone to defend them? Or just Kate?

      • Nic919 says:

        There is so much media and PR manipulation of Kate’s image, it is fair to comment on how she can look so different. If she was simply ageing then outside of making observations, there is not much more to say. The problem here is that she pretends to be natural, but then lies about using extensions, and certain media outlets photoshop the effects that smoking, heavy dieting, tanning have done to her skin. Putting forth an unnatural image of perfection is also quite damaging to women who don’t have access to all the treatments / wigs that she does and who are ageing without the use of Botox or fillers. Seeing her lines etc. normalizes it for everyday women because we see few images of women ageing. And there is a difference between noticing she has lines versus saying she is a hag for having them.

        Another issue is that Kate doesn’t really do much of substance and even her appearances are not very common. So instead of being able to discuss whatever issue she is promoting, the focus becomes her looks, but she has yet to offer anything else. She hasn’t spoken in public in how long? For a 33 year old woman to have so little of a voice in such a public position is a disgrace. Whether she is to blame for this, or William or the Royal family, we still have a situation where an adult woman is virtually silent and is used to promote clothing more than anything else.

      • wolfie says:

        “Photoshopping women (in this case Kate) to appear younger and flawless, smoking and refusing to quit because thinness is more important than health, and extreme dieting are feminist issues. It’s a critical public service to feminism that we call attention to these things every time we see them” (quoting MinnFinn).

        There’s not much to aging – talking about my aging process means little more than any other developmental process. It’s not mean – it is me! And there are better and lesser ways to go thru this process, and why shouldn’t we discuss that? To impose expensive treatments and standards on women who want to be like the Duchess…for me, the best support for other women is calling out Kate’s falsies; and false equivalencies. This is supporting women, including the Duchess, who has no need to be so superficial. I think it sad that she needs to erect such barriers between herself, and all other women, with her money. This is not making her popular! It is also not personal – critiquing public figures is invaluable, especially in an institution that glorifies snobbery.

      • FLORC says:

        Wolfie
        Holy wow! THIS all day long!

  45. Dr. Funkenstein says:

    Well, she’s unbelievably photogenic.

    • wendi says:

      And you’re unbelievably sarcastic – right?

      • FLORC says:

        Was going to post the same.

      • kaiko says:

        Ya know, she used to be cute back in her late teens, early 20s. Not beautiful but pretty with a nice healthy look to her. Wholesome, happy, and definitely loving the camera were the thoughts I had when first seeing her pictures.
        But now? She’s really started messing with her face. Obviously she was on the botox and fillers for her wedding but now it looks like she’s going hardcore. Her mouth, lips look so different, almost like a string was inserted underneath her skin to lift up her lip muscles a la joker. It’s not flattering and it ages her even more. I don’t know, I just don’t understand women, no matter how famous, that think that tweaking their face to look younger/better is ever a good idea. It’s just so easy to see even the slightest of differences, even with a talented surgeon, which I’m sure the Duchess had for her improvements.

    • hmmm says:

      Too true! It *is* unbelievable. Such is the power of photoshop.

  46. MadMenluv says:

    the boots could be better, the coat is very nice and it calls for an equally nice pair of boots, these aren’t it…some nice booties might have been better…you could tell the weather there is getting nice and chilly…

  47. Kate Bush says:

    I don’t like the nasty comments about her looks either. Who cares if she’s wearing extensions, don’t most people in the public eye these days?
    I don’t see any jowels either, aren’t jowels like loose saggy skin under the chin, there’s nothing there!
    I love the coat, the peek of black under with and have to admit I’m a huge fan of the black suede boots ( I have a couple of pairs myself!)

    • FLORC says:

      Because many people still refuse to admit she wears them. It’s more an pointing out examples to reinforce the point.
      The jowls. Bcause so often they are photoshopped or cosmeticaly corrected out. When they show there’s almost always a headline of her being tired and worn down.

      Boots. You’d wear those to work? I’d wear pants if its cold.
      Those boots are more casual. When at work we should dress to show we are respectful of your time and reasons for being there.

    • India says:

      Look at the second photo Kate Bush. She has pouches on either side of her mouth. It looks really bad.

    • bluhare says:

      I think poking fun of her extensions is fun, and in no way inappropriate. I enjoy it. If she’s going to deny she wears extensions and/or hair pieces, I’m going to enjoy myself pointing them out. Fire up the wagon, FLORC!

      As to the rest of it, I don’t care. I only care about what she does and how she inhabits her position. And I hope this recent spate of engagements isn’t just the regular bums rush before their next holiday.

    • Saywhatwhen says:

      Because she had some Palace PR person come out to announce years ago that she doesn’t wear hair pieces. Who does that? You make a statement about something so superficial when the world is anticipating what charities you will take on? Seriously, this woman invites all kinds of criticism and should be ripped apart for superficial things because she has set a precedent that the superficial is all she is about. So she invites a certain type of conversation and we should refrain from indulging?

  48. anne_000 says:

    I agree with those who say we shouldn’t be talking only about her looks as after all, she is, without a doubt, a woman of great substance and her message and focus has NEVER been primarily on her physical appearance. We should comment only about all the good charities for which she’s spent all year consistently pushing their causes.

    When Diana was alive, did we know of her only by her hair and clothes? No, we also knew she was very interested in promoting anti-land mines laws, inclusion of AIDS-afflicted people into general society, treatment for disabled and ill children, compassion and empathy for those less fortunate, etc. Kate has worked very hard to create publicity for her causes too. The fact that we don’t know any of them is obviously OUR fault.

    It’s an absolute certainty that she does NOT EVER think that the whole reason for her showing up to anything is about getting attention for her looks. She knows she’s not there just to show off her hair, her body parts (i.e. her legs/butt/cleavage), her clothes, her smiles to the cameras as she’s shaking a regular folk’s hand, etc.

    She has never ever looked bored or disinterested during the times when the focus is on the speakers at the events. She knows she’s there to learn not just for herself but for the population at large and to promote the true reason for why such visits and events existed in the first place.

    She knows her job is not to be eye candy, a fashion plate, a cover girl model, a sex symbol, etc. That we don’t notice more than what we see from her is again, our fault, because obviously we’re the shallow ones here, not her.

    • Ughhhhhh says:

      I have no feminist issue with any critique of her shallowness, behavior, work ethic, clothes, etc. I don’t totally agree, but it’s above the belt. But shaming her for going through the natural process of aging is cruel not just to Kate but to women in general. It’s retrograde and I think many people here are better than that.
      Just take a step back and stick to mocking her laziness and inappropriate hemlines. That’s all I ask. There are plenty of negative things to say about her without scolding her for having skin that doesn’t look like a 19-year-old’s.

      • anne_000 says:

        In my humble opinion…

        If that’s the case, then why are there more overall positive comments about the elderly QE2 and less negative comments about her ‘natural aging process?’

        The negative comments about Kate are based on what isn’t a natural aging process. What people are commenting about are based on the results of the fillers, botox, possible facial surgeries, fake tans, the negative effects of her smoking/lack of sunscreen/extreme dieting, etc. that she has done to herself that have affected her natural looks.

        These examples that she seems to continue obsessively make her look less like her natural self. After all, there are photos of her on the internet before all this work on her face and body. She’s refusing to grow old gracefully and naturally, which she makes a priority as to what she wants people to see and only know about her.

        Also, do you really think the weight she is now or all during her marriage is her natural weight? Have you seen photos of her when she was actually at her natural weight looking healthier and more athletic? Have there been criticisms of her actual natural weight? None that I know of.

        If it was about negativity towards “not just Kate but to women in general” “for going through the natural process of aging,” then why aren’t there more criticisms about the lines on QE2’s face, her elderly jowls and expanding face, her growing plumpness, etc? Instead I see comments about how lovely she looks and none that advocate that she start doing fillers, botox, or get a face lift, or diet down to be a skinny-minny.

        Imo, many women nowadays are most likely to criticize those women who project an unhealthy and unnatural image as the aspired goal and model. Why? Because modern women know that this is not something we want to influence the up-and-coming younger generation of women. Be healthy. Be natural. Accept your imperfections as your unique beauty traits.

        But unfortunately, this is what Kate is not about. She’s not natural and the way she’s gone about glorifying this unhealthy obsession about her looks is all that she’s shown the world and thus the reason for the negative comments. She has shown no interest in anything or anybody else. She might as well wear a t-shirt with the phrase: “I thought this charity visit was about showing off how I look. What people? There’s just me to look at here.”

        Yes, people do comment on her laziness and inappropriate hemlines and flashing. But imo, nobody expects her to look like a teenager. But Kate expects herself to look like something she is not. That is an artificial construct on her part and she is hellbent on showing the world the consequences of it but not anything else of her that is of any substance or benefit to others or even to herself.

        Should people refrain from criticism of the only thing she shows the world what she is about? Why? Is she so sacrosanct? Is what she does with her time dedicated to an unnatural aging process off-limit from criticism?

        As others upthread and in other articles have said, her looks wouldn’t be discussed so much if she showed the world that she does have other interests, such as working for the benefit of others.

      • anne_000 says:

        I forgot to mention the other aspects of her unnatural aging process which are her possible veneers and her most likely weaves/wiglets/fake hair. Though the hair might have been natural at one time on someone else’s head, it’s not on hers.

        I’m glad women today realize that the value of a woman is not her looks but her substance and thus criticize women like Kate who believe the opposite and want that mentality to be envied and admired by impressionable women, and more worrisome, if it affects the younger generation.

      • wolfie says:

        Ugh – there is nothing at all wrong with the aging process. We all go thru it and notice in our mirrors. Are you telling me that it is cruel to age, or cruel to notice? Is someone scolding me that I don’t have the skin of a 19 year old? (I did when I was 19). That you are implying shame to this process is what disturbs me. It might feel frightening to go thru a developmental stage where the next stop is death – but it’s also very empowering. Becoming a crone has great depth – you needn’t shame little ol’ ladies by denying our right of passage with fear and botox.

      • FLORC says:

        Wolfie
        You have me remembering the grays I have.
        I got them early. I now embrace them and do not shame others who dye. That said I don’t see why some will fib. We all age and no one can stop it. We all don’t have to admit it, but it shouldn’t be denied either.
        Kate appears to not be able to accept No shame! And it’s others who are acting like aging does not touch her and anyone who claims she ages and points out what time gifts her is an insult on a personal and horrible level.

  49. Jib says:

    People comment on her looks cause that’s all she’s got. She doesn’t’ have charities, she doesn’t have causes, she has nice clothes and HAIR. How come people don’t make fun of Maxima’s weight? Because she’s always out and about and looks joyful doing her duties.

    Just wanted to say that if you look at these pics and others of Kate and Will meeting people, they are always leaning back. Compare with pics of Maxima and Harry, both of whom lean in to meet people. Huge difference in how they feel about the peasants and it shows.

  50. Wow says:

    Guess Mean Girls can always find a justification for being unkind. Just like junior high. Sad.

    • FLORC says:

      You just came from the Organic Botox thread too? It’s like a convention over there!

    • Jib says:

      Discussing someone who lives and dies by her hair and nothing else is not being a Mean Girl. Sheesh. People here actually use critical thinking. Why don’t you avoid places where people think, instead of blind hero worship?

      • Christin says:

        If someone expresses a differing OPINION, one’s choice whether to read or skip over it.

        I wonder if comment sections are similar to real life, because IRL people who cannot effectively defend the subject often resort to calling others ‘mean’ who are making valid points.

        A final point — I think part of the reason appearance gets brought up could be because the subject has been viewed as a show-off, if not downright exhibitionist, at times.

        There seems little else to discuss about what seems to be a shallow vessel of a person who has so many opportunities to do more to help others. This goes for him as well.

    • bluhare says:

      While I agree with you and the others’ points and I enjoy it when the discussion is more balanced, I do wonder where all these posting names are coming from. I thought we were supposed to pick a name and stick with it. Some of the comments sound like they’re from people who either continue to post, or have posted here in the past. If we can pick names to suit our opinion of the topic at hand, I guess I’ll start doing it too so I can’t be called out on an opinion either.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Things have gotten different in this post, haven’t they? I feel like I’m on a Kelly Rutherford article, with one poster using 5 different names screaming that everyone who quotes facts from the court documents is wrong, lying, or hates single mothers.

      • wolfie says:

        New defensive posters always show up after a lull in the duchesses appearances, or after a tour. I’ve wondered in the past if the palace had some connection to this oft repeated phenomena that I’ve noted over a period of several years – as these fans will gun for her for a few days, and then disappear again.

      • FLORC says:

        bluhare
        I might post under “Fat with Cats”, but never here. It’s more for satire purposes you’d expect from someone with a “Fat with Cats” handle.

        And yes there are so many comments that repeat typos, opinions and sentence structures. Or repeat the same links or times as reference. So many coincidences repeated they’re likely not so. A pattern for certain.
        My translate software for when i’m lazy or take to this site after some wine has a memory and there are repeats.

      • MinnFinn says:

        I honestly think it’s one of 3 things because of the pattern which is they show up out of nowhere on the occasional Friday (iirc it’s always on a Friday) and they respond to posts all afternoon. They are conducting a social experiment or they’re professional PR people tweaking various iterations of how to respond to criticisms or they’re paid posters who are trying to stop people from criticizing her.

  51. vespernite says:

    All of Kate’s shoes need to go! They are so boring. The same stupid pumps and those awful suede boots. Her style is so boring. She has access to the best designers in the world she could do better! I’m now naming her the DULL DUCHESS!

  52. themummy says:

    I LOVE her outfit and that blue color is awesome. I’m not a huge fan of the bangs, though, but she looks pretty good.

  53. TessD says:

    I think she should wear more bespoke pieces. They look better, no one will be yelling about the cost and a hoard of wannabes won’t get to copy.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I think that works for the Queen, because she uses an in-house person – Angela Kelly. When KM goes bespoke, as she does frequently, she goes to high-end designers and spends a boatload of money. Her little custom scotch dress from Burton? $8000. That kind of custom/bespoke will make people yell about the costs.

  54. racer says:

    Seriously you guys, she wears the exact same styles over and over and over and over again. The only change is the colors and her tragic hair.

  55. Caroline says:

    If you are American what on earth personal experience can you have of any of these people? Your culture is not even the same as Britain’s. Kate is part of the BRF and what is acceptable in Britain may not be in the US. Neither is right nor wrong. You are only gaining opinions from what you are seeing online not personal experience. At least in the UK we have met some of these people and know of other people who have met them. I have seen the Queen, Princess Anne, Prince Philip, Prince Charles and Diana twice and it does make a difference. I worked in a community the members of which had inter-acted many times with the royal family. The Queen is said to have a great sense of humour whereas William is totally “royal”. You cannot also gain the same impressions of people from photos as you can even from the TV and news film. Everyone is also entitled to their own opinion and it is good for people to know not everyone agrees with them. I do about Kate’s work ethic but leave her appearance alone.

    • Caroline says:

      I actually love Americans. I was on a coast to coast holiday there last year and I am going back next May. I liked all the people except a customer adviser in one of the stores. I am quite happy reading all the comments and I am quite happy putting in my own tuppence worth. I first came on this site because I was not too keen on Kate either but I cannot get over the obsession with what she looks like and, no, I don’t have any similar sites to compare this one with because I don’t look at any others.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Caroline, I don’t think this one article and the related posts is representative. Many of the royal threads become great sources of info on history, jewelry, royal roles, etc.

      • FLORC says:

        Nota
        How true.
        People can’t complain about that though so it’s ignored and forgotten. This site lately has had a swarm of posting names from other more neagtive sites. That shouldn’t be claimed as the majority. It’s ignorance to assume this of us all that do not praise.

        On a side note the Wiglet Watch is full of jokes. And my knowledge of Tiaras and hair styles along with historical points is broad.

    • Candice says:

      What happened to the responses that were posted to this comment I wonder. Last time I was on I saw at least 2 but they’ve disappeared. In all honesty they were extremely tame – or lame, depending on your perspective 😜. Just seems weird when you consider some of truly offensive and hateful posts that pass the “test”. Eg KK & Amal clooney posts….

      • Olenna says:

        @Candice, I noticed a couple of comments missing upthread, too. Maybe the posters who were unhappy with some of the comments complained to the CB moderator. And, you’re right, comments here are really tame compared to some other celebrity posts. I remember there were a couple of Cumberbatch posters who were so hateful towards Sophie, that I thought they were becoming seriously unhinged.

      • kaiko says:

        Pardon my ignorance but I’m kinda new here–why does Caroline have a linky attached to her name? Is she a moderator? Are we in big trouble for criticizing KM?

      • FLORC says:

        Kaiko
        Anyone can have that. When you list your poast name and email there’s an option for a website. If you put anything in there like even this site your name goes blue.

  56. wow says:

    It’s an okay look. I love the color though and her hair looks fabulous. Nothing tops that smile of hers though. You can tell she is pretty happy. She’s almost glowing here.

  57. emma says:

    her hair looks good

  58. JRenee says:

    The 3rd picture is great. The coat is beautiful. How many events is this for the week? Now if they just keep working and add some substance to their efforts..

  59. Anare says:

    Her hair looks odd. Zoom in. I don’t like the color. The coat is nice but something about that color just grates on me. Wish is was a little less electric

  60. Citresse says:

    Read DM’s article titled Right Royal Transformation. I don’t think Kate has had any plastic surgery. Botox? yes, Wiglets? yes, but no surgery. There are photos and videos from her school days to now. She’s an attractive woman who just appears to be aging more rapidly than most women her age. It happens.

    • Christin says:

      At one point, I thought she’d had something done under her eyes. If she had anything done to her nose, it was subtle. I also lean toward the rapidly aging theory (plus lifestyle factors, as others have noted).

      Someone on this site once referenced an “aging spurt”, and I think that’s what is going on here with both W&K the last couple of years. They may level off and look the same as now for another decade or so, then have another “aging spurt”.

    • Citresse says:

      IMO, William has also aged significantly since the 2010 engagement interview. Sometimes, it’s just bad genetics.
      And aside from skin changes, the balding certainly makes William look older than his years.
      Who was the bald as a bat King in history? Where is it coming from? The Spencer side- yes Diana’s father had hair loss, but wasn’t it in much later years? The current Lord Spencer Charles seems to have a good head of hair.

    • Charlotte15 says:

      I think the stress of being under such intense, constant scrutiny has contributed to her rapid aging. I realize there are other royals/celebrities who flourish in the spotlight, and that this is the life that Kate wanted and that she walked into it as a big girl with her eyes wide open, but IMHO it is proven FAR more difficult than she anticipated and it shows. She looked fabulous (and genuinely happy, IMO) from the time of the engagement announcement, up through the first Royal tour when all of W&K’s press was glowing and there wasn’t too much expected of her yet nor very much criticism. Now that the ‘bloom is off the Rose’ and the British press is becoming more vocal about her workshy tendencies, she’s realizing she might have gotten more than she bargained for with the “job” she chased for so long, and I think the weight of it all is showing.

      I feel sorry for her in a way…I wonder if she had it to do all over again, knowing what she knows now, if she would still choose William and this lifestyle. I cannot even begin to imagine what it is like living with the entire world watching your every move and millions commenting publicly; I think I would become unhinged very quickly! That’s just my two cents.

  61. Vava says:

    She should contact that designer and get that coat altered because the bodice is very ill fitting. Sloppy work for a bespoke garment that should be pin-fitted to the client’s body. If I was Charles, I’d want my money back.

    • Deedee says:

      I wonder is she doesn’t bother with fittings or if she doesn’t bring the same undergarments she intends to wear with her. That placket should not gap on her chest. First place the eye is drawn to on an otherwise nice suit.

  62. Carrie says:

    I’m not a super avid royal watcher and I’m from the U.S. however I find it curious we never see Kate photographed with any peers- friends or other moms? Nor do we see she and Will out with other couple socially ? Is there a restriction on the press not to snap her out with the girls or even with a bestie- official duties only ?

    • LAK says:

      William has friends. Occasionally he is papped with them. Currently he’s seems to be papped attending so many of their weddings. It’s an incredibly long standing group of friends going back to childhood.

      Kate doesn’t have any friends. Or rather she dropped all her friends in the pursuit of William. Any friends she has are really William’s friends. It’s been rumoured that his friends don’t really like her which implies a sort of mutual toleration society. And according to reports, and observation, she’s dropped those friends since the wedding too.

      She spends most of her time with mother and sister or employees.

    • Charlotte15 says:

      She doesn’t seem to have any, which strikes me as incredibly sad as I am a person who values my girlfriends very highly and has worked hard to keep them even as decades pass and most of us have gotten married, had children, moved farther away from each other, etc. They add so much to my life.
      She did seem to have some in her college years, but they no longer seem close (unless their visits are VERY well hidden) and I guess it’s been so long that she’s been associated with William and therefore unable to trust many people and their intentions. Her best friend seems to be her mother. While it’s certainly great to have such a strong relationship with her mother, it doesn’t replace peers/girlfriends IMO.

      • Carrie says:

        I agree then, quite sad – I would imagine support from girlfriends would help defray stress from scrutiny , etc. but I guess it’s a choice she made. Wonder if it was worth it to her .

  63. Citresse says:

    All these comments about William wanting a stepford wife. Yes, some truth to that but the real truth is no one else really wanted him because they valued their privacy so in light of that I don’t really think Kate worked all that much to becoming his wife.

    • Betti says:

      Yes and no – Willy is boorish with a roving eye, so am sure that was also a reason all the aristo girls gave him wide berth. She was last girlfriend standing and was the only one willing to put up with it all.